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00:00:00Thank you all
00:00:48Good evening everyone, and welcome to Who Has Seen It? Your questions and fears are ours too.
00:01:04Good evening everyone
00:01:07I feel sick and worried too. And what about this virus that's going around? So I ask myself...
00:01:14if you can do something.
00:01:16We're already in a precarious situation and we're terrified. Please tell us the truth of these messages because they're terrifying us.
00:01:25I'm calling you because I can't reach anyone. It's about coronavirus safety in Milan's supermarkets.
00:01:34There are no masks. If I may ask you, at least some people with medical conditions.
00:01:44Masks? We don't have the right to have them either. We go there for treatment, for medicine, for...
00:01:50the consultations.
00:01:51I would like to know if I am more exposed than people who do not have this pathology.
00:01:57We Italians are told to care about cleanliness and disinfection.
00:02:03We're in 2020 and all this science is going on. They can't find this drug.
00:02:15Afterwards, when I finish quarantine, what if I go out? Am I still at risk? Do I have to quarantine every time?
00:02:22what am I going out?
00:02:23They're all nonsense. This is a place of more than ordinary opulence.
00:02:28Can migratory birds or birds in general carry this virus?
00:02:34I'm speaking about the spread of the infection. I'm especially aware that 99% of people have the virus.
00:02:41He doesn't care.
00:02:42I'm an obedient person. I don't need anyone to interrupt.
00:02:45They tell me I shouldn't go and I don't go.
00:02:49But how does someone get out of the red zone? Do I check the red zones or not?
00:02:54It's on the web. There's Vicente who says he's a doctor, but he's not a doctor. He says a
00:02:59a lot of bullshit.
00:03:00I received another very alarming and worrying video for what it says.
00:03:07Can I send it to you like this?
00:03:08Now the poor old people have to take it to the curb, as they can't all be treated.
00:03:15And they will have to make a choice.
00:03:17So we poor old people took it upon ourselves to rebuild Italy, to make so many sacrifices.
00:03:24And now we'll be erased too. It's a disgrace.
00:03:31When I left the house this morning I heard a woman, I was going out to go shopping with the
00:03:36my dog,
00:03:36a woman who said into the intercom, Mom, I'll leave your shopping by the door.
00:03:42I also left you a gift. Happy birthday, Mom.
00:03:45I walked over and said, I want to wish your mom a happy birthday too.
00:03:50By the way, the lady told me, she's a viewer of yours, the lady told me I'm turning today
00:03:5580 years old.
00:03:57And so for all the ladies who are at home alone turning 80, for all the people
00:04:02who are alone because they have to stay at home,
00:04:05a virtual hug from us who saw it, we decided to be there because from children to the youngest
00:04:12adults
00:04:12Everyone has the right to have answers that are as clear as possible.
00:04:17In this moment of great confusion for all of us.
00:04:22And so with us is the head of the Infectious Diseases Department of the Istituto Superiore di Sanità, Professor Rezza,
00:04:29because your questions are important, ask them and he will answer you.
00:04:34Next to him is my boss, because he was my boss...
00:04:38Close by but at a safe distance.
00:04:39Next to me and always at a safe distance, my political boss from when I was at Tg3, Corradino Mineo,
00:04:45he was a correspondent in Paris and New York, the director of Rai News 24, in short he will try to work with me
00:04:52inform.
00:04:54Then of course we asked the courtesy of Acquaniti, who is the spokesman for the police officials,
00:05:01to stay with us for the whole evening.
00:05:03Good evening.
00:05:04We thank Acquaniti, because in this moment of confusion for health, however, there is also confusion for
00:05:10understand what penalties we face.
00:05:14There is also confusion about this, so the Acquaniti will explain these certain rules well, if we do not respect them
00:05:21what are we facing?
00:05:24So, thanking the director Simonetta Morresi, Fabio Tiracchia and Silvia Verzari, because look, it's hard for us too to go to
00:05:33wave.
00:05:33Some productions have closed, but we want to be here with you, somehow not so reassuring,
00:05:40But to tell you every day, wash your hands, respect the rules because they are important.
00:05:46Our correspondent, Paolo Agrauso, is at the switchboard and is answering.
00:05:53Paolo Agrauso told me on Wednesday, it was an incredible experience because you are calling, you are crying with us too and you are doing
00:06:01Very well.
00:06:01Paola, the first questions for Professor Rezza.
00:06:04There are so many questions, let's say that most of them concern the masks that cannot be found, all the
00:06:12they are looking for.
00:06:12where can these masks be found and how should they be used, whether they should be used once and then thrown away?
00:06:21go away,
00:06:21or they can be reused, perhaps sterilizing them, disinfecting them, someone said I put them in boiling water
00:06:29and then use it because it has always been said that people who are well do not need to wear it
00:06:36the mask.
00:06:37However, we have been asked several times whether that person is asymptomatic and does not know he is positive,
00:06:46Maybe it's better if he wears a mask, here, to clarify this.
00:06:51And then if the clothes and shoes are infected, if, another question that came up,
00:07:01getting on the elevator, touching the handles, the buttons, if there are risks there too.
00:07:10So, professor.
00:07:13First of all, we must not enter into a climate of complete paranoia because otherwise we will not truly live anymore.
00:07:20It's not good for us either, is it?
00:07:22It's not good for us.
00:07:23So, how is this virus mainly transmitted?
00:07:27Mainly through saliva droplets, which are called droplets.
00:07:32So, what's going on?
00:07:34If I am close to another person, clearly if I am infected, the other person can become infected.
00:07:42This is the first thing.
00:07:43That's why we say to stay at least one meter apart.
00:07:47At least one meter because at a distance of one meter these droplets, which are quite heavy, fall.
00:07:55Otherwise there are viruses that spread through aerosols, that is, the droplets dry up, after the aerosol they go
00:08:00in the air.
00:08:01Those are the viruses that spread through the air.
00:08:04It's not that.
00:08:05This is achieved mainly through contact with air.
00:08:09Look, professor, because you know what many people are asking.
00:08:11I'll try to explain it clearly.
00:08:12No, of course.
00:08:12If, for example, we go in the elevator, someone coughed before us, right?
00:08:17No.
00:08:17He sneezed the droplets.
00:08:19No, that's the droplet.
00:08:20It falls, so you have to actually fall on yourself, into your hands and you have to touch your mouth and eyes.
00:08:27Otherwise, if I cough, I sneeze, because we say, do it in the crook of your elbow, if I cough, I sneeze, I contaminate my hand, I give
00:08:36I shake my hand at someone I meet, and they immediately bring it to their eyes, and that's what can be transmitted.
00:08:44Professor, the surface, if the surface had been recently contaminated, I touch it, I bring my hands to my eyes, to the
00:08:52nose, mouth, I could even get infected.
00:08:57This is why it is said, especially in hospitals, there is a concentration of sick people, clearly the surfaces
00:09:03they need to be disinfected.
00:09:04Any disinfectant is fine. For your hands, soap and water are fine, as long as you wash your hands well, your thumbs,
00:09:11even the wrists.
00:09:13We'll show you later, professor, listen, but this thing about the masks.
00:09:16But, of course, if you touch something contaminated and immediately bring your eyes.
00:09:21Oh sure, we have to be careful.
00:09:22I can't rule it out, but in the vast majority of cases it's close contact and hands.
00:09:30And that's why we have to keep our distance.
00:09:31There is a film contagion, a film contagion, which came out a few years ago, which showed that inadvertently we
00:09:37we bring our hands so many times, to our eyes, to our face, to our mouth.
00:09:42Well, I'm used to not doing that anymore now.
00:09:44Oh sure, but we will change, no, our habits.
00:09:47Listen, professor, right away, no, it was said masks yes, masks no, the one who has the virus
00:09:54you don't have to put that one...
00:09:56So, we, with Giovanna Botteri, who is from Beijing, who is in Beijing and therefore is living in China, no,
00:10:02what happened.
00:10:03The other time, rightly, he said everyone has to wear masks, because if everyone wears them it's
00:10:08better, of course, for everyone.
00:10:10Someone asks us if DIY masks are okay, I mean we made them, they showed them with
00:10:16baking paper, with the domoca, in short, in all...
00:10:19There are those who even suggested us to use a sanitary pad that you put on, I don't know where, but these masks, that's enough.
00:10:27for example, also having a large scarf that covers us from the droplets?
00:10:30Look, clearly these are not standardized products, let's say the masks, there are surgical masks, the ones we wear, that's it,
00:10:41wears a lot of people now,
00:10:44You see them on the street in supermarkets. Well, these masks offer little protection. Why? Because they don't filter, they're not very filtering.
00:10:58so a virus could also pass through this mask.
00:11:03But it's clear that the mask has an effect, it has a mechanical barrier effect.
00:11:09So if I am infected, I cough or sneeze, or I speak, well, immediately the mask blocks the saliva, therefore it prevents the
00:11:18'other of.
00:11:19Therefore, widespread use of masks can be useful where there is a high concentration of infected people, because
00:11:26the probability that there are infected people,
00:11:30that can infect others is high, so perhaps if they use masks they are blocking the passage.
00:11:35We have to say that any, I'm in public transport, well, any obstacle, protection, even if not standardized, can prevent,
00:11:48by preventing, by making a mechanical barrier to saliva, it can prevent the passage.
00:11:52Listen, professor, let's pause for a moment because there are so many questions.
00:11:56The nationals are another thing, the masks, the FP2, the FP3, those that health workers must wear, because
00:12:01are exposed to a very high risk.
00:12:05So, there are so many questions. I want to show you, and of course Giovanna Botteri is with us, and Andrea is also here.
00:12:11Venturini,
00:12:12which is in one of those countries that were considered red, now we are all a protected area.
00:12:18Then there are our colleagues, there are Claudio Aldi and Paolo Andriolo, who are working in Rome and
00:12:26Milan of what's happening.
00:12:29That is, people, how they are stopped, what they have to bring, a self-certification.
00:12:34In short, we are trying to understand what is happening in our cities.
00:12:39Not only that, of course we are connected with London, with France, with Paris, with Berlin.
00:12:49Because what is now clear to everyone is not just China, no, Corradino.
00:12:54By now, I believe, even Trump has finally declared an emergency.
00:12:58So Trump declared an emergency that gives him the ability to use 40 billion funds for these occasions
00:13:08and so that's already something.
00:13:10But he probably continues to underestimate it.
00:13:13So, unfortunately, we are all somehow brought together by this virus nightmare.
00:13:20We are now going with Paolo Andriolo.
00:13:22Then after we also have our connections with Emily De Cesare and Pablo Trincia, always in Rome and then in
00:13:27Milan.
00:13:27Because everyone says home, but you know, there are also homeless people.
00:13:31They don't have a home.
00:13:33So, let's go first with Paolo Andriolo.
00:13:35Are you going with the police to see what's happening?
00:13:40Yes, Federica, good evening.
00:13:41First of all, I want to show you the place where I am, a place dear to the Milanese.
00:13:45The Darsena of Milan, the ancient port of Milan.
00:13:47And on this other side instead the Naviglio Pavese and the Naviglio Grande.
00:13:53It is an important place for the city of Milan because it is a place of leisure, of meeting,
00:13:57for fun, it is a very popular place.
00:14:01You see now what condition he is in, what situation he is in.
00:14:04There is practically no one except a few riders, the guys who deliver meals by bicycle.
00:14:09just like this guy who's passing by.
00:14:12So, I'm moving, let's go to the other side of town.
00:14:15As you can see, there are only riders.
00:14:17For the rest there is practically no one, very few people.
00:14:20And I reach Captain Matteo Martellucci, commander of the Duomo company of the Carabinieri of Milan.
00:14:31Exactly.
00:14:32This evening you have been working and are carrying out these checks which are a priority for you.
00:14:39You told me before, this is a priority for us because it's about public health.
00:14:42And so you have to check that there is no one around without a real need, without a proven reason.
00:14:51So, based on what you've done these days, how are the citizens of Milan behaving?
00:14:57Many people have complied with the rules imposed by government decrees.
00:15:01We are therefore pleased to note a responsible and common sense attitude.
00:15:06of people who have severely limited their relationship life
00:15:10to try to limit the circulation of the virus.
00:15:16Listen Paolo, I wanted to tell you something.
00:15:18Since I know that you will go with him later, with them, with the Carabinieri,
00:15:22I wanted to stop you for a moment because apart from the fact that, fortunately,
00:15:25We are all trying to follow the rules together because the rules are important.
00:15:31But I would connect with Acquaniti because one of the very important questions that Acquaniti asked us
00:15:38the problem is, okay, we have to follow the rules.
00:15:41If someone doesn't respect them, we face a fine or something more.
00:15:48will we then go to trial?
00:15:52So, the provision of the penal code which is responsible in case of violation of a provision
00:15:58of the authority as in this case is Article 650 of the Criminal Code.
00:16:03The penalty is imprisonment for up to three months, or a fine of 206 euros.
00:16:10This is a so-called contraventional crime.
00:16:14To make it simpler, it is a crime to fail to comply with an order from an authority.
00:16:20There are more serious crimes that can be committed when making false declarations.
00:16:27because the self-certification can be produced by the person under control
00:16:33or it can be done together with the police forces, all the police forces and the law enforcement agencies
00:16:38they have models that help those who perhaps can't, can't due to age or any other reason
00:16:44to have it directly from home.
00:16:47But at that moment we, when we certify our identity, the legitimate reasons possibly
00:16:53that take us out of the house, we also assume criminal responsibility in this case.
00:16:57Not to mention an article that I remember studying many years ago, 452 of the code
00:17:03criminal
00:17:04which is a crime that protects public health and which carries a maximum prison sentence
00:17:11up to 12 years in the event that the individual is found to be moving outside the home
00:17:17either a person who is aware of being positive or in quarantine.
00:17:23This is the main criminal scenario.
00:17:25Acquanidi, look, was very clear, really very clear.
00:17:28Before we said, among other things, let's respect the rules, except for the fact that it has become a crime
00:17:35going out without a self-certification but also making a false self-certification.
00:17:41But the problem is that staying at home, respecting the rules, staying as Rezza said
00:17:46even in parks somewhere otherwise they'll close them all at a distance
00:17:51it means saving us all.
00:17:54You have to think about yourselves, your mothers, your fathers, your grandparents, your children.
00:17:59because it's a really serious problem.
00:18:02So, I'm leaving Andriolo now who's going with the Carabinieri
00:18:06and I want to thank my studio, our studio, the operators Fabio Bersani,
00:18:12Nadia Confalonieri, Stefano Monelli, Gianni Sugaroni, and Leonardo Bravi
00:18:16because with me they come here with the self-certification and allow me to go on air.
00:18:21For me they are truly precious colleagues, all precious.
00:18:26I want to mention them all this evening because they allow us not to close this production
00:18:31which is very important to us because we can answer your questions.
00:18:36More questions in a moment, but look, it all happened so quickly.
00:18:40It's an incredible thing, we were all there listening to the songs of Sanremo
00:18:45and we ended up in Sanremo closing door to door.
00:18:49Veronica Briganti.
00:18:57Good evening, welcome to the seventieth edition of the Sanremo Festival.
00:19:01and thank you, thank you.
00:19:05So this Sanremo Festival will be like this.
00:19:08I introduce him, now he introduces me, now he will leave.
00:19:12Bugo and Morgan.
00:19:15It's the first week of February, the week of the Sanremo Festival.
00:19:19While Italy is gripped by the fight between Bugo and Morgan which ends up in all the newspapers,
00:19:25Doctors at Spallanzani Hospital in Rome are trying to treat a husband and wife
00:19:29who were taken from the hotel where they were staying because they had a cough and a high fever.
00:19:35They are Chinese and came to Italy as tourists.
00:19:40It's hot, I knew it, we're done.
00:19:45We are made, says a Roman with the gift of synthesis,
00:19:48to say that the virus, the coronavirus that Giovanna Botteri talks about in her connections from China,
00:19:55he arrived in Italy.
00:19:56Images of Wuhan, the Chinese city shocked and quarantined,
00:20:02they go around the world.
00:20:10It's the citizens of Wuhan who, locked in their homes, gather their strength and start singing.
00:20:15A scene that gives you the shivers.
00:20:23Italians who live there and want to return are repatriated.
00:20:27There are 53 of them.
00:20:29They cannot have contact with anyone.
00:20:31From China to the Cecchignola military facility for a 14-day quarantine.
00:20:37One of them speaks on the phone with our Marco Monti.
00:20:41For me everything went well.
00:20:43I had a hot return.
00:20:45Yes, it's one aspect.
00:20:46Here it is, here it is.
00:20:48A family, locked in a room.
00:20:52No one can imagine what we were getting into.
00:20:56We thought it was only up to them.
00:20:58It was 50 days ago.
00:21:01On February 20th, in Codogno, 16,000 souls, half an hour from Lodi, in Lombardy,
00:21:07a 38-year-old man feels ill.
00:21:09This time, the coronavirus has struck an Italian.
00:21:16A 38-year-old man in Codogno, in the Oligiano area, was hospitalized in serious condition.
00:21:20On Friday, February 21, Patient 1 was admitted to intensive care.
00:21:25The next few hours are hectic and confusing.
00:21:28But one thing is immediately clear.
00:21:30The coronavirus was apparently not limited to the town of Codogno.
00:21:34At 6pm that day, two more cases were discovered in Voe and Uganeo, near Padua, 170 kilometres away.
00:21:42from Codogno.
00:21:43One of the two infected, a 77-year-old man, died at the Schiavonia hospital.
00:21:49For us it's the first shock.
00:21:52It's been a complex day today on the coronavirus front.
00:21:57Saturday, February 22nd is the second day of the emergency.
00:22:01In Codogno and nearby towns, bars, schools, and shops are closed.
00:22:05The situation is serious.
00:22:08That same day, at 11 pm, Prime Minister Conte
00:22:12He informs Italians at a press conference of the approval of a decree law.
00:22:17The areas of the two outbreaks, in Codogno and Voe e Uganeo, have been declared red zones.
00:22:23In some of our municipalities, it is no longer possible to enter or exit.
00:22:27We were also at Conte's press conference with Annalisa Venditti.
00:22:32Good evening, Annalisa Venditti from the editorial staff of Chi l'ha visto, Rai 3.
00:22:36If someone does not respect the entry or exit ticket from the areas with outbreaks,
00:22:41What is the risk and what is the risk?
00:22:44Italians must not give in to feelings of panic or...
00:22:53Our correspondents, Pablo Trincia and Paolo Andriolo, depart from Milan
00:22:58and they go to better understand what is happening in the Codogno area.
00:23:02They go there by car, in complete safety.
00:23:04The municipalities have been closed, but they are not closed yet.
00:23:09Look, there's nothing written on the electronic whiteboard.
00:23:14There's nothing written, we're getting closer at the moment.
00:23:16Registry certificates are also available online, but they don't say anything about the coronavirus.
00:23:23No.
00:23:25Then the situation gets worse.
00:23:27It's Sunday, February 23rd.
00:23:29In Northern Italy it stops.
00:23:30Public events are cancelled, schools, universities, and museums are closed.
00:23:35The Venice Carnival is cancelled, as is the one in Ivrea.
00:23:40But people are lost, they don't know what to do, they cling to normality.
00:23:46He still hasn't understood that the only antidote to this virus is to stay home.
00:23:55And Milan is trying to resist, it longs for normality.
00:23:59Mayor Sala is photographed wearing a white t-shirt with the writing
00:24:02«Milan doesn't stop».
00:24:04A hashtag is also launched.
00:24:15The president of the Lazio region goes to Milan to express his solidarity.
00:24:20He left from Rome.
00:24:22Zingaretti meets people and has his picture taken while enjoying an aperitif.
00:24:25He smiles.
00:24:26Not far away, however, the sirens of ambulances can be heard.
00:24:30Hospital intensive care units are starting to fill up with patients.
00:24:34Because the more days pass, the more aggressive the virus becomes.
00:24:38Travel fast, from person to person.
00:24:41Psychosis begins.
00:24:42The situation is serious.
00:24:44And the slogans are starting to emerge.
00:24:47Masks, distance, contagion.
00:24:49It's February 27th and the president of Lombardy Fontana posts a video on Facebook
00:24:55which immediately goes viral, in which he wears, in his own way, a mask.
00:25:00The coronavirus, therefore, has also reached the buildings of the institutions.
00:25:05There can be no more doubts.
00:25:06This cursed virus can affect anyone and right now it's really scary.
00:25:11With the effort we are putting in and with the effort all citizens are putting in,
00:25:16In the space of a few days we will be able to slow the spread of the virus.
00:25:23On March 4, the Prime Minister was forced to hold another press conference.
00:25:29With him is the Minister of Education, Azzalina.
00:25:32Boys and girls, you can't go to school anymore.
00:25:35For Italy, another, increasingly dramatic phase officially begins.
00:25:40It's no longer just the municipalities of the North, it concerns us all.
00:25:45Suspend teaching activities outside the red zone.
00:25:50How to explain this to children? Moms and dads ask.
00:25:53Adults, who cannot find the words to say to their children, on the other hand,
00:25:57They know well that this is only the beginning and that the division of our country into red zones and zones
00:26:03yellow
00:26:03It's just a hypothetical line on a piece of paper.
00:26:07The coronavirus is now everywhere. The emergency.
00:26:10it's national.
00:26:11The number of currently positive infections is 10,590.
00:26:18The total number of people in intensive care is 1,028.
00:26:25Every day, at six in the afternoon, the Civil Protection gives the bulletin of new infections
00:26:30and, unfortunately, also deaths.
00:26:33Scary numbers.
00:26:35Numbers because those people can't even be given a final, dutiful farewell.
00:26:41Those numbers are the fathers, the mothers, the grandparents.
00:26:44Italy is going through a particularly challenging time.
00:26:49Our President Mattarella gives a speech on television, but it's not December 31st.
00:26:54It's March 6th.
00:26:56Three minutes and 41 seconds to rally all Italians and urge them to the duty of trust.
00:27:05Italy is forced to stop, to reduce meetings, commitments, outings, and travel.
00:27:11The virus is turning our lives upside down, taking over our habits and forcing us to live locked up,
00:27:17taking away the pleasure of human contact.
00:27:20We don't even know if we can kiss our husband anymore.
00:27:24We have now forgotten the days when it was scary to go to Chinese restaurants,
00:27:29because now we are even afraid of meeting our neighbor.
00:27:33And there are those who feel invincible.
00:27:36Is it right to play matches in empty stadiums?
00:27:39Or should the championship be stopped?
00:27:41Furthermore, one of the most important matches is approaching, the Italian derby, Juventus-Inter.
00:27:47What to do?
00:27:48In the end, it was decided to have it played behind closed doors.
00:27:51The atmosphere is surreal.
00:27:53During the match Dybala scores and runs to hug his teammates on the bench.
00:28:02The happiness after a goal, the joy of sharing with your teammates.
00:28:07A very normal thing, but forbidden these days.
00:28:11Daniele Rugani, who was in that embrace, will test positive for coronavirus.
00:28:16Both teams are placed in isolation.
00:28:19We all have to give up something for the good of Italy.
00:28:23And when I talk about Italy I'm talking about our loved ones, our parents, our grandparents.
00:28:30Conte returns on March 9th. Just a video.
00:28:33There are no more press conferences.
00:28:35This is the third time in less than a month.
00:28:37And we will immediately adapt to these more stringent rules.
00:28:42This time, however, it is to tell us that there are no more distinctions.
00:28:45Italy is now a red zone, and a crackdown is being planned on all activities, especially travel.
00:28:53Chaos breaks out during the night.
00:28:55People are panicking, despite the reassurances.
00:28:59He prefers to stock up on food at late-night supermarkets.
00:29:03There is still some time left for satire.
00:29:06Striscia la notizia makes it about Nicola Zingaretti, who was a guest of Bruno Vespa on Porta a Porta.
00:29:12It was not yet known that the governor of Lazio had been infected.
00:29:17And the next interview will be Porta a Porta chiusa.
00:29:25That's right, he closed door to door, he had to stop this production.
00:29:30So I also thank Stefano Mattioli and Fabrizio Simone who are allowing me to go on air.
00:29:36These are special moments.
00:29:38Corradino, we'll be connected to Claudio Aldi in Rome shortly.
00:29:42How is it possible that the decree comes at night and then everyone has time to leave?
00:29:47from the red zone?
00:29:48First because there is an announcement with information that wants to know everything.
00:29:52On one occasion the announcement came six hours before the signing.
00:29:56Then there is the signature of the Prime Minister.
00:29:59However, after the Prime Minister has signed it, the President of the Republic must accept it.
00:30:04and it is necessary to publish it in the official journal.
00:30:06So time passes, especially if it happens on the weekend.
00:30:10Furthermore, when we heard about red zones, like in China,
00:30:15well, then you need to have law enforcement agencies that enforce a decree like this.
00:30:20I was very pessimistic about this and I have to say that instead everything worked quite well.
00:30:27thanks to the sense of discipline that the Italians reposted on this occasion.
00:30:31The Italians. Well, not all of them, of course, because then we saw, well,
00:30:35someone left, the governor of Puglia who said
00:30:38Don't come here and bring us the virus, Claudio Aldi should be here in Rome
00:30:43and she is also trying to make you understand with the representatives, in this case the Police,
00:30:50what are you getting into?
00:30:52Acquaniti was very clear before, Claudia.
00:30:55Are you going out to see what's happening in Rome?
00:31:01Yes, Federica, good evening.
00:31:02Look, we are here with the director of the Office of General Prevention and Public Rescue
00:31:07of the Rome Police Headquarters, Dr. Massimo Improta.
00:31:10Soon we will be wearing masks and gloves and with him and his patrol cars, his men,
00:31:16we'll go and see what's happening in Rome.
00:31:18Doctor Improta has been in charge of monitoring the city's streets for 48 hours
00:31:25to see if the Romans and whoever comes here to the capital
00:31:29follows the indications of the decree
00:31:37and that's what we all have to do starting Wednesday.
00:31:41Doctor, listen, these days, it's been 48 hours,
00:31:44You have been asked to make an even greater effort than what you make every day on the streets.
00:31:50Tell us some numbers, have you checked how many people,
00:31:53who hasn't, let's say, followed the instructions?
00:31:57Well, it must be said right away that Roman citizenship
00:32:00he responded fully and concretely
00:32:02to the indications of the Prime Minister's decree of the 11th
00:32:06and the checks of the last 24 hours reported this morning at 8am
00:32:12there are approximately 10,000 checks, but it is the sum of all the police forces
00:32:17and of all those who are on the pitch from Termini station
00:32:21to the airports, to the traffic police, to the city
00:32:25they checked with our men, the Carabinieri, the Guardia di Finanza
00:32:30those who were in transit on the city streets.
00:32:33How many of them in particular have you checked?
00:32:35Cattolino is 500, only as far as the structure of the Rome police headquarters is concerned
00:32:39between the car radios of the patrol cars and the car radios of the police stations in the capital.
00:32:44So, Claudia, if you want to follow them, we'd also be happy to see
00:32:47what, that is, how is Rome, because look, it makes an impression
00:32:51this deserted Rome, they closed the Trevi Fountain
00:32:54but they also closed the Eiffel Tower.
00:32:56We're in a really peculiar situation, aren't we?
00:32:59The symbols of these closing cities.
00:33:01Acquaniti, if you are connected, I wanted to ask you
00:33:05I saw the extraordinary effort you naturally have to make
00:33:09I wanted to ask you, so many people ask us
00:33:11boys, for example, who are abroad
00:33:13who are unable to return to Italy
00:33:16because now then, the airlines are closed
00:33:19rightly so, in short, the cruises end
00:33:22because with what happened on the first cruise ship
00:33:24Maybe it should have been done sooner.
00:33:26Who comes from abroad and crosses the border
00:33:29but why is he resident in Italy?
00:33:32This is not considered a crime, of course.
00:33:34can he return to Italy, right?
00:33:37Absolutely not, it is not a crime.
00:33:41it is already expressly provided for in the decree
00:33:45that the return to places of residence
00:33:48and or domicile is a right
00:33:51so all the activities
00:33:53I am not just a policeman
00:33:55I am also an ordinary citizen
00:33:57who has a relationship life
00:33:58I have many friends who ask me how to get back
00:34:01from Erasmus their kids
00:34:03It is clear that each country is reacting differently
00:34:07so the first thing is to understand in which country the boy is living
00:34:11what are the possibilities of moving
00:34:13as she rightly said
00:34:15see which carrier, plane or trains
00:34:18how to reach the border
00:34:21in Italy kids have every right
00:34:25not just the kids, everyone
00:34:26have the right to return to their places of residence and domicile
00:34:30this is absolutely right that it is so
00:34:33and this is what was correctly expressed in the decree
00:34:37Well, thank you Queniti.
00:34:38I ask the director if it's possible
00:34:41of course, after all, it's a program
00:34:44which must try to give the maximum information
00:34:46if it is possible to connect via Skype with the mayor of Codogno
00:34:51Francesco Passerini
00:34:52because naturally I give all the time to the direction
00:35:00because then we want to understand from these municipalities
00:35:03What's happening in these municipalities?
00:35:04because there are very strong appeals
00:35:07which come from the mayor of each of these municipalities
00:35:10See you soon after this short break
00:35:26So, the mayor of Codogno
00:35:28we should have it via Skype
00:35:31Francesco Passerini
00:35:33let's see if I can see it
00:35:34So, mayor
00:35:35First of all, thank you for being here with us.
00:35:38It also needs blood, right?
00:35:40She wants to make an appeal, right?
00:35:43Absolutely yes
00:35:44If I had heard the Avis appeal
00:35:48I absolutely want to join
00:35:49and invite everyone to go and donate
00:35:52donors who can leave
00:35:55to go and donate
00:35:56there is a need for it
00:35:57and so really
00:35:58let's make this effort all together
00:36:01because there is always a need for blood
00:36:03in our hospitals
00:36:03Listen, mayor.
00:36:05you are affected
00:36:06and you were hit there in the north hard
00:36:09here it seems to us as if
00:36:10no, the tsunami has yet to hit us
00:36:13what's the situation now?
00:36:16Start anyway
00:36:17to be less in emergency than before?
00:36:21Well, the emergency certainly continues
00:36:24clear, the numbers and the trend
00:36:26that are arriving in the last few days
00:36:28they also give a kind of satisfaction
00:36:31that all the sacrifices made
00:36:32from our communities
00:36:33and from our populations
00:36:34they still brought some results
00:36:38we must move on
00:36:39we must move on
00:36:40and we need to make everyone understand
00:36:41that the best weapon
00:36:43the greatest weapon we have
00:36:44is to try to stay at home
00:36:46as much as possible
00:36:47and try to avoid social contact
00:36:50as much as possible
00:36:52it's the only way we have
00:36:54to defeat this virus
00:36:55first is good
00:36:56Look, you did well to say it.
00:36:57because since you have been there
00:36:59there are rules
00:37:00which are not exactly virtuous rules
00:37:01they are rules of life
00:37:03so they with great holy patience
00:37:06they were inside the house
00:37:08we were connected
00:37:10with one of our viewers
00:37:11by Castiglione Dada
00:37:12what he told us
00:37:14I'm inside the house
00:37:14I can't even go
00:37:15from my mom
00:37:16which is on the landing below
00:37:17but we have to get out of it
00:37:19the more we stay at home
00:37:21the more we stay short
00:37:22and we get out of it first
00:37:23I thank the mayor
00:37:25and look
00:37:27thanks to you
00:37:27thank you, thank you for having you
00:37:29he can intervene whenever he wants
00:37:30naturally
00:37:31and look
00:37:32we are all closer
00:37:33unfortunately with this virus
00:37:35what makes an impression
00:37:36is if Marco Varvello
00:37:38of course he confirms it for me
00:37:39than in England
00:37:40Boris Johnson says
00:37:43get used to losing your loved ones
00:37:45Marco
00:37:46the line is yours
00:37:47a virtual hug
00:37:48Right back at you
00:37:49Yes
00:37:50what makes the most impression
00:37:52it's a greeting to everyone
00:37:53then I thank you
00:37:54also the studio technician
00:37:56here from RAI London
00:37:57Paul Camata
00:37:58which allows us to go on air
00:37:59I was saying
00:38:00what makes the most impression
00:38:01apart from the unfortunate exit
00:38:03by Boris Johnson
00:38:03that you remembered
00:38:04who said exactly
00:38:07literally
00:38:08there will be many families
00:38:09who will lose prematurely
00:38:13their loved ones
00:38:13All right
00:38:14I was going to skip this outing
00:38:15what makes the most impression
00:38:17is that so far
00:38:18there haven't been any
00:38:19measures
00:38:20of containment
00:38:23of the epidemic
00:38:24Why?
00:38:25why the experts
00:38:26they say there is a delay
00:38:28that we saw
00:38:28also in other countries
00:38:29France
00:38:30Germany
00:38:31compared to the Italian front line
00:38:33and the British delay
00:38:36on arrival
00:38:37of the epidemic
00:38:38it is calculated
00:38:39in approximately
00:38:40four weeks
00:38:41so here
00:38:41the cases
00:38:42I'm still actually
00:38:44a few hundred
00:38:45about
00:38:45nineteenth century
00:38:47but the fact
00:38:48not to take
00:38:49measures
00:38:50it means that it is not done
00:38:51not even prevention
00:38:52arriving at the office
00:38:54Before
00:38:54standing
00:38:55I saw the pubs
00:38:56full
00:38:57the premises
00:38:59they are open
00:39:00the schools
00:39:00they are open
00:39:02and then
00:39:03this is that
00:39:04which puts more pressure
00:39:04we saw
00:39:05first the images
00:39:07of Juventus
00:39:08Inter
00:39:08here
00:39:08the only one
00:39:09measure
00:39:10socket
00:39:11from the Football Federation
00:39:13not from the government
00:39:13that's it
00:39:14of the suspension
00:39:15of the matches
00:39:16of all championships
00:39:17of football
00:39:17until April 3rd
00:39:19but also because
00:39:20until two days ago
00:39:22and we see these images
00:39:23disconcerting
00:39:24in Liverpool
00:39:25it was played
00:39:26calmly
00:39:27Liverpool
00:39:28Atletico Madrid
00:39:29that it was not a normal match
00:39:31apart from the fact that it was played regularly
00:39:34but why did they arrive
00:39:363,000 fans
00:39:37from Madrid
00:39:38of Atletico Madrid
00:39:39and we know that Spain
00:39:41it's after Italy
00:39:42in short the country
00:39:43most affected
00:39:43Therefore
00:39:44up to now
00:39:45I have to say
00:39:46there is a lot of concern
00:39:47in the Italian community
00:39:48we know that
00:39:49they live here
00:39:50approximately 700,000 Italians
00:39:52that on one hand
00:39:53they feel relatives
00:39:54friends
00:39:54they watch the news
00:39:56with the situation
00:39:57dramatic in Italy
00:39:58and on the other
00:39:59they look around
00:40:00and I understand
00:40:01that maybe here
00:40:02it hasn't happened yet
00:40:04aware
00:40:05of what is coming
00:40:06look thank you
00:40:07also because so many
00:40:08they call us
00:40:09right from London
00:40:11from Paris
00:40:11from Spain
00:40:12saying but these countries
00:40:13they are
00:40:14Italians
00:40:15Italian boys
00:40:15young
00:40:16they say that in these countries
00:40:17they are underestimating
00:40:19I thank
00:40:20Joseph Gentile
00:40:21Massimo Merola
00:40:21Gianluca Dario
00:40:22Paolo Loffredo
00:40:23Joseph Sgro
00:40:24because they allow me
00:40:25to go on air
00:40:26please Corradino
00:40:27I wanted to say
00:40:28Barvello hit the mark
00:40:29the point
00:40:30the underestimation
00:40:32about Madrid
00:40:33Madrid
00:40:34the virus has arrived
00:40:35even to a minister
00:40:36of the government
00:40:38the Montero
00:40:38which is also the companion
00:40:39of the vice president
00:40:40of the Iglesias council
00:40:42now Sanchez
00:40:44he got
00:40:44the state of alarm
00:40:47which allows him
00:40:48to do directly
00:40:50measures
00:40:51these restrictive measures
00:40:52but also in Spain
00:40:53I'm late
00:40:55what is not understood
00:40:56of Great Britain
00:40:57maybe we could ask
00:40:58further clarifications
00:41:00in Varvello
00:41:01and if it is a strategy
00:41:02Johnson's
00:41:03or just an underestimation
00:41:05let's see why
00:41:06we are
00:41:06yes Marco
00:41:08sorry they are there
00:41:09the others falling
00:41:10satellites
00:41:10but tell me
00:41:11quickly
00:41:12clearly
00:41:12but look
00:41:13in two words
00:41:14the strategy
00:41:15but it could be
00:41:16that of
00:41:17essentially
00:41:18to develop
00:41:20the antibodies
00:41:21in the population
00:41:22because today
00:41:23the scientific consultant
00:41:24of the government
00:41:25he actually said
00:41:25well if 60%
00:41:27he will get infected
00:41:28will develop
00:41:29this immunity
00:41:33mass
00:41:33this is how it is defined
00:41:35here it is
00:41:35It's Patrick Vallas
00:41:37listen Marco
00:41:38but I'm really
00:41:38optimists
00:41:39you don't know
00:41:39the face
00:41:40what he did
00:41:40Professor Rezza
00:41:41and also Giovanna
00:41:42Botteri
00:41:43from Beijing
00:41:43because if
00:41:44no but we do it
00:41:45everyone's face
00:41:46because it's obvious
00:41:48that take into account
00:41:49a high number
00:41:50of victims
00:41:51in the bands
00:41:52weaker
00:41:52but it's not a speech
00:41:54thanks Marco
00:41:55Look
00:41:56Thank you
00:41:56I would like to say one thing
00:41:57on other countries
00:41:58in general
00:41:59apart from China
00:42:01that after
00:42:02an initial
00:42:03perhaps skidding
00:42:04let's say
00:42:05after he took
00:42:06of the measures
00:42:06incredible
00:42:07European countries
00:42:09meanwhile
00:42:10they are moving forward
00:42:12each on his own
00:42:13the European Union
00:42:14it seems
00:42:15not having given
00:42:16management
00:42:17univocal
00:42:17everyone takes
00:42:19the measures
00:42:19that takes
00:42:20with delay
00:42:21Why
00:42:21us
00:42:22some justification
00:42:23we have it
00:42:24we found each other
00:42:24the virus
00:42:25at home
00:42:26in Lombardy
00:42:27probably
00:42:28the second half
00:42:29of January
00:42:29was already circulating
00:42:32clearly
00:42:32unexpected
00:42:33that is for us
00:42:34it was sudden
00:42:35but they are warned
00:42:36we were afraid
00:42:37looking
00:42:38what was happening
00:42:39in Wuhan
00:42:40someone could think
00:42:41Wuhan is far away
00:42:42a health system
00:42:43completely different
00:42:44from ours
00:42:44but the French
00:42:46the Germans
00:42:47the English
00:42:47you want me not to
00:42:49be warned
00:42:49of that
00:42:50what's happening
00:42:51in Lombardy
00:42:52one of the best
00:42:53health systems
00:42:55of Europe
00:42:55and of the world
00:42:56Lombardy
00:42:56let's say it
00:42:57but it's under the eyes
00:42:59of all
00:42:59At that time
00:42:59everyone is leaving
00:43:01with great delay
00:43:02because if I
00:43:02that is, if Italy
00:43:04takes action
00:43:05with few chains
00:43:06of transmission
00:43:07that there are anyway
00:43:08maybe in Rome
00:43:09and in Lazio
00:43:10very little
00:43:11little
00:43:11in some regions
00:43:13from the south
00:43:13let's take action
00:43:14on a national scale
00:43:15why do we say
00:43:16maybe we can delay
00:43:18if not actually block
00:43:19delay
00:43:20the progression of the virus
00:43:22on the diffusion
00:43:23these countries
00:43:24they had
00:43:25a long time
00:43:26to plan
00:43:27Thank you
00:43:28I know it too
00:43:28that if I let it slide
00:43:30the virus
00:43:31and I let him walk
00:43:32without any obstacle
00:43:33that in six months
00:43:34practically
00:43:36it strikes me
00:43:3760%
00:43:37of the Italian population
00:43:38but after
00:43:39we meet again
00:43:40with a load
00:43:41so strong
00:43:42on health facilities
00:43:43the hospitals
00:43:44intensive care units
00:43:45that I want to see
00:43:46when after
00:43:47people stay at home
00:43:48and we have to go
00:43:48in intensive care
00:43:50what happens?
00:43:51if they expect
00:43:52to face
00:43:53the gender situation
00:43:53hats off
00:43:54in fact Marco
00:43:55he returns to Italy
00:43:56Rezza
00:43:56No
00:43:57I am joking
00:43:58but
00:43:58the English
00:44:00strategies do
00:44:00they are not the last to arrive
00:44:02but
00:44:02he told me something important
00:44:03I wonder what
00:44:04anyway you need to get some air
00:44:06No?
00:44:06why even stay at home
00:44:08In short
00:44:08it's not that it does much good
00:44:10you need to have air
00:44:10that is, there is a bit of concern
00:44:12for the births
00:44:13I'll show them to you
00:44:13these images
00:44:14there is a group
00:44:16that there are
00:44:17I don't know if I'm from the lightning
00:44:19they are carabinieri
00:44:21they tell me
00:44:21they are carabinieri
00:44:22who run in groups
00:44:24for Livorno
00:44:25let's see them together
00:44:26let's see what happens
00:44:27but do you realize what the fuck
00:44:29are you doing?
00:44:31you realize
00:44:32what the fuck
00:44:33are you doing?
00:44:36I photograph you
00:44:37Why
00:44:37what the fuck are you doing?
00:44:38you didn't run
00:44:39for shit
00:44:40you didn't run
00:44:41for a screw
00:44:42and now go for a run
00:44:43it's not necessary
00:44:44it's a message
00:44:46it's a message
00:44:47which is wrong
00:44:48Christ
00:44:48who are you?
00:44:50are you parabatudists?
00:44:51huh?
00:44:52are you from the lightning?
00:44:54fuck
00:44:54you don't have to
00:44:55stay at home
00:44:58you have to stay at home
00:44:59fuck
00:45:01you didn't run
00:45:03for a lifetime
00:45:04you've gained weight
00:45:06and now you have the desire
00:45:07to go and lose weight
00:45:08balls
00:45:11there is a lot of tension
00:45:13Rezza
00:45:15then there are many videos
00:45:17that we propose to you
00:45:19it's an attitude
00:45:20not very virtuous
00:45:21or they could run
00:45:22at a distance?
00:45:23if one runs alone
00:45:25and at a distance
00:45:26clearly
00:45:27nothing happens
00:45:28if
00:45:28like when one
00:45:29bring the dog
00:45:30to go for a walk
00:45:31No?
00:45:33naturally
00:45:33it's different
00:45:34if we
00:45:34let's give up
00:45:35on the rules
00:45:36and then
00:45:37let's start saying
00:45:37yes let's go
00:45:38let's go running together
00:45:39now the groups are formed
00:45:41so on and so forth
00:45:41then they move
00:45:42of kilometers
00:45:43while they tell us
00:45:44not to leave the house
00:45:45so this
00:45:46the people
00:45:46we know her
00:45:46it's not an attitude
00:45:48virtuous
00:45:49although
00:45:49Joan
00:45:51you are always in the frame
00:45:52know it
00:45:52because whatever happens
00:45:54you are framed
00:45:55you have perfect hair
00:45:56the hairdressers
00:45:57you can see
00:45:57they close here
00:45:58instead they reopen them
00:46:00and so you're lucky
00:46:01because in a little while
00:46:02all women
00:46:03they will have very serious problems
00:46:05I'm looking for
00:46:06see also
00:46:07to make light of things
00:46:07every now and again
00:46:08to give you a smile
00:46:09but I always tell you
00:46:10the rules must be respected
00:46:12wash your hands
00:46:13the masks
00:46:14for everyone
00:46:14Giovanna Botteri is right
00:46:16when he pointed it out
00:46:17and we should have
00:46:19Rino Pellino
00:46:20which is in Berlin
00:46:25what's happening there
00:46:27because after all
00:46:28from London
00:46:29hugs
00:46:30you kiss
00:46:31they wait like this
00:46:32to make themselves theirs
00:46:33I don't know
00:46:34a do-it-yourself
00:46:35in the time of cholera
00:46:36I have to say
00:46:37my mother made me eat
00:46:38the mussels
00:46:39he put lemon in it
00:46:40and he told me
00:46:41lemon is good for you
00:46:43eliminate cholera
00:46:44but anyway
00:46:45now the times
00:46:46they have changed a little
00:46:47Rino
00:46:49the situation here
00:46:50I have to say
00:46:51that's enough
00:46:52schizophrenic
00:46:54Me too
00:46:55I went out
00:46:57a moment
00:46:58Before
00:46:58to try
00:47:00to eat
00:47:00one thing
00:47:01full rooms
00:47:03some packed
00:47:04I kept myself
00:47:05keep away
00:47:06from those
00:47:08and people
00:47:09calmly
00:47:10around
00:47:10bus
00:47:11equally full
00:47:13Today
00:47:14it seems
00:47:15the first day
00:47:16in which
00:47:17at the level
00:47:19let's say
00:47:19national
00:47:20he took it
00:47:20a little more
00:47:21consciousness
00:47:22yesterday there was
00:47:23a meeting
00:47:24of all the presidents
00:47:25of the regions
00:47:26then they went
00:47:27all of us together
00:47:28from Angela Merkel
00:47:29they have
00:47:29it seems
00:47:30argued
00:47:31until late at night
00:47:32to try to find
00:47:33a common position
00:47:35they started today
00:47:36to go out
00:47:37one after the other
00:47:38saying
00:47:39that closed the schools
00:47:40he started
00:47:42Bavaria
00:47:42and they arrived
00:47:43many others
00:47:44but we had to
00:47:44arrive at today
00:47:45and only this afternoon
00:47:48the football federation
00:47:49he decided
00:47:49to suspend
00:47:50the Bundesliga
00:47:51they were still
00:47:52firmly
00:47:53intending
00:47:54to play
00:47:55the matches on Sunday
00:47:56until yesterday
00:47:57some games
00:47:58they had to be played
00:47:59even with the public
00:48:01this while
00:48:03at the same time
00:48:04the highest authorities
00:48:05scientific
00:48:06they were saying
00:48:07that the situation
00:48:08she's serious
00:48:08that we must prepare ourselves
00:48:10at worst
00:48:10That
00:48:12In short
00:48:13the hospitals
00:48:15they have to start
00:48:16to put
00:48:17on point
00:48:17of the plans
00:48:19emergency
00:48:20to fix it
00:48:21most read
00:48:22possible
00:48:22to make it arrive
00:48:25all the fans
00:48:27and everyone
00:48:29all equipment
00:48:31that are needed
00:48:32which among other things
00:48:33I have to say
00:48:33something is coming
00:48:34from China
00:48:35equipment
00:48:36doctors
00:48:36Therefore
00:48:37In short
00:48:37which surely
00:48:38they will help us
00:48:39Exactly
00:48:39but this
00:48:40here
00:48:41here in Germany
00:48:42and at the same time
00:48:44but it wasn't taken
00:48:45no measure
00:48:46even in the north
00:48:47Rhine-Westphalia
00:48:48where the outbreak is
00:48:50most important
00:48:50There are
00:48:511500 cases
00:48:52make sure
00:48:53about
00:48:54And
00:48:555 deaths
00:48:57only there
00:48:59the schools
00:49:00they didn't close
00:49:02they closed
00:49:03only
00:49:03in some
00:49:04in some places
00:49:05there have never been any
00:49:06of the real ones
00:49:07and its own
00:49:08red zones
00:49:09in those regions
00:49:10Rino
00:49:10I thank you
00:49:11Why
00:49:11only today
00:49:12Please
00:49:14just one thing
00:49:15only today
00:49:15the government
00:49:16he decided
00:49:17a huge plan
00:49:19of financing
00:49:21of the economy
00:49:22500 billion
00:49:23placed on the table
00:49:24the possibility
00:49:25to ask
00:49:26unlimited credits
00:49:27And
00:49:28the idea
00:49:29Of
00:49:29beat
00:49:31Like this
00:49:31and defeat
00:49:32Also
00:49:32it was said
00:49:33the markets
00:49:34that they are looking for
00:49:35Of
00:49:35bet
00:49:36against
00:49:37Europe
00:49:38whole
00:49:38which must
00:49:40cope
00:49:40to this emergency
00:49:41I thank you
00:49:42Why
00:49:42it's clear
00:49:43that the economy
00:49:44it's important
00:49:45I believe
00:49:45that people
00:49:46that are
00:49:46seeing
00:49:46this program
00:49:48but
00:49:48they also ask themselves
00:49:49but if I
00:49:50then I don't live
00:49:51what do I do
00:49:53At that time
00:49:53the problem
00:49:54there are people
00:49:55who have lost
00:49:55the workplace
00:49:56then Corradino
00:49:57he did his part
00:49:58press review
00:49:59telling us
00:50:00they are people
00:50:01those inside
00:50:02and those outside
00:50:02instead of being
00:50:03forced to work
00:50:04someone says
00:50:04but why
00:50:05I have to go
00:50:06to work
00:50:06We see
00:50:07then there are
00:50:08at this point
00:50:08we are in a democracy
00:50:09and everyone talks
00:50:10I propose to you
00:50:12Always
00:50:13we keep
00:50:13rez
00:50:14and then I ask
00:50:14to Filomena
00:50:15Rorro
00:50:15if he can
00:50:16ask the questions
00:50:18on health
00:50:18because he too
00:50:19naturally
00:50:19he's very tired
00:50:21but I ask
00:50:21to broadcast
00:50:22Vittorio Sgarbi
00:50:23forever
00:50:24to understand
00:50:25but anyway
00:50:26one can say
00:50:26whatever he wants
00:50:28I can't understand
00:50:30as
00:50:30they want each other
00:50:31convince
00:50:31the Italians
00:50:32that exists
00:50:33a danger
00:50:34that isn't there
00:50:35and all life
00:50:36that in winter
00:50:36let's take
00:50:37colds
00:50:37and influences
00:50:38all my life
00:50:38what people
00:50:39they get sick
00:50:40of diseases
00:50:43respiratory
00:50:44so they have
00:50:44colds
00:50:45cough
00:50:46sometimes
00:50:46even
00:50:47pneumonia
00:50:47and there is not
00:50:49nothing more
00:50:49he is not dead
00:50:50someone
00:50:51suddenly
00:50:51which has become
00:50:52black
00:50:52with buboes
00:50:54it came to him
00:50:54the plague
00:50:55it didn't happen
00:50:56Nothing
00:50:56someone died
00:50:57because he had
00:50:58a rather advanced age
00:50:59it arrived to him
00:51:00a cuddler
00:51:00of pneumonia
00:51:02and he died
00:51:02and as it has always been
00:51:03I can't
00:51:05to imagine
00:51:05that all this
00:51:06you change completely
00:51:07our life
00:51:08but which of you
00:51:10he's sick
00:51:10Truly
00:51:11about millions
00:51:12that we are in Italy
00:51:13those poor things
00:51:15that they take
00:51:15pneumonia
00:51:16they were sick
00:51:17they would have been sick
00:51:18Anyway
00:51:18even without
00:51:19coronavirus
00:51:20fucking shit
00:51:21which
00:51:21just wait
00:51:23a little bit of heat
00:51:23to die
00:51:24because it is so powerful
00:51:25that at 26 degrees
00:51:26he dies
00:51:27you drink
00:51:27a hot tea
00:51:28he's already dead
00:51:29but what the fuck kind of virus is this?
00:51:30never a few colds
00:51:31like this season
00:51:32I myself
00:51:32or less colds
00:51:33than usual
00:51:34there is a decrease
00:51:36of diseases
00:51:38but
00:51:40extremely dangerous
00:51:40people look at each other
00:51:41on the street
00:51:42with a hallucinated air
00:51:43I say
00:51:43I don't know
00:51:44or I'm crazy
00:51:45or am I the only one
00:51:46who tells the truth
00:51:48I don't believe it
00:51:49to these people
00:51:50they don't convince me
00:51:51I do not believe
00:51:52to the coronavirus
00:51:53there will be something
00:51:54behind
00:51:55something they will want
00:51:56Give Way
00:51:57I don't know what it is
00:51:59there is nothing
00:52:00there is nothing
00:52:02and they broke the balls
00:52:04rebel
00:52:05send them to hell
00:52:06if the ministers say
00:52:08of this advice
00:52:09of the ministers
00:52:09that there is the virus
00:52:10don't believe it
00:52:12I am a group
00:52:13of total incompetents
00:52:15empty pumpkins
00:52:16goats
00:52:17goats
00:52:18don't worry
00:52:19in 15 days
00:52:20it will all be over
00:52:21All
00:52:22but in the meantime
00:52:24I explained it to you
00:52:24we should be cautious
00:52:25if you stop like this
00:52:26like assholes
00:52:26lock yourself in the house
00:52:27to bed
00:52:28Well
00:52:29if you are in bed
00:52:31if you are in bed
00:52:32get up
00:52:33get up
00:52:34go around
00:52:35go to Codogno
00:52:37go and see
00:52:39Here you are
00:52:40listen, Professor Rezza
00:52:42we went to Codogno
00:52:43if he went there
00:52:44naturally
00:52:44then the first one who said
00:52:45he says I'm crazy
00:52:46or
00:52:46more than a thousand deaths
00:52:49in Italy
00:52:49why this percentage
00:52:51it's so tall
00:52:51in Italy
00:52:52of deaths
00:52:53there is a population
00:52:55fortunately
00:52:56but in this case
00:52:57Unfortunately
00:52:58very old
00:52:59if we go to see
00:53:01the average age
00:53:01is superior
00:53:03of deaths
00:53:04is superior
00:53:05at 80 years old
00:53:06they are people
00:53:07which often
00:53:08they have
00:53:08many pathologies
00:53:10basic
00:53:11naturally
00:53:12this is not that
00:53:13let there be consideration
00:53:14Why
00:53:15they are people
00:53:16that anyway
00:53:16they could have
00:53:17a life expectancy
00:53:18still ahead
00:53:18more or less long
00:53:20it depends later
00:53:21clearly
00:53:22there is variability
00:53:23individual
00:53:24but there are
00:53:25even people
00:53:26younger
00:53:27who go to therapy
00:53:27but these people
00:53:28they wouldn't have died
00:53:28if it hadn't been there
00:53:30the coronavirus
00:53:31that is, that you mess around
00:53:32be present
00:53:32let it be said
00:53:33because the problem
00:53:35is that these people
00:53:36then they die
00:53:37I think he has
00:53:38played on the paradox
00:53:40but the problem
00:53:41instead it's very serious
00:53:42these people
00:53:43there are more than a thousand
00:53:44look
00:53:45among other things
00:53:46among the elderly
00:53:46we are here too
00:53:47so in short
00:53:49we are talking
00:53:49the problem is the one after
00:53:50I say
00:53:51but of course
00:53:52this is a virus
00:53:53that we can't do
00:53:55comparisons with the common cold
00:53:57the flu
00:53:58but not because
00:53:59for his
00:53:59he says how virulent it is
00:54:01in part it is more virulent
00:54:02because it causes pneumonia
00:54:03Anyway
00:54:04but also because
00:54:06since we don't have
00:54:07a new virus
00:54:08none of us
00:54:09has antibodies
00:54:09against this virus
00:54:10Therefore
00:54:11he runs a lot
00:54:12it circulates very quickly
00:54:14and if one is unable to give
00:54:16appropriate assistance
00:54:17a person who needs to be intubated
00:54:19he has to go to the hospital
00:54:21he has to go to intensive care
00:54:22I am trying to say
00:54:23but can you imagine?
00:54:24that's why I'm surprised
00:54:27that it won't be understood afterwards
00:54:28the problem
00:54:28but then among other things
00:54:29in Codogno
00:54:30In my opinion
00:54:30they close the borders
00:54:31and rudeness
00:54:32they don't make it
00:54:32to enter Codogno
00:54:34because they are afraid
00:54:35of those who enter
00:54:36in Codogno
00:54:36I would say
00:54:37to Filomena Rorro
00:54:38it has grouped together
00:54:39other questions
00:54:40for Professor Rezza
00:54:42and on our cover
00:54:46that woman
00:54:46he says
00:54:47we elders
00:54:48that we have given so much
00:54:49to Italy
00:54:49what are you doing now?
00:54:50you throw us away
00:54:51but this then
00:54:52it's not a speech
00:54:53to be done
00:54:53here's the problem
00:54:55of the coronavirus
00:54:56why those people
00:54:57they wouldn't have died
00:54:58they would have been treated
00:55:00they had some pathologies
00:55:01but what does it have to do with it?
00:55:02they died
00:55:03it is understood
00:55:04who had the coronavirus
00:55:05this must do to us
00:55:07think
00:55:08then Filomena
00:55:09are you ready?
00:55:11Yes
00:55:13as soon as
00:55:14he called
00:55:15a lady
00:55:16which was operated on
00:55:20of a tumor
00:55:21to the lungs
00:55:22and lives at home
00:55:23with her husband
00:55:24and he asked us
00:55:26he asked
00:55:27to the professor
00:55:27must maintain
00:55:28a certain distance
00:55:29of safety
00:55:30even from her husband
00:55:31staying at home
00:55:33and then
00:55:34another
00:55:36viewer
00:55:36he got the vaccine
00:55:37against pneumonia
00:55:39but he is a carrier
00:55:40of pulmonary emphysema
00:55:42asks
00:55:42if it were to happen
00:55:43contract the virus
00:55:44the vaccine
00:55:45what he did
00:55:46against pneumonia
00:55:47it can be for him
00:55:47any help?
00:55:49this is the beginning
00:55:50the second
00:55:50unfortunately not
00:55:51why the vaccine
00:55:52against pneumonia
00:55:53it's good that it's done
00:55:54beyond a certain age
00:55:55or if you have
00:55:56of underlying pathologies
00:55:57if for example
00:55:58you don't have a spleen
00:55:59but it's a vaccine
00:56:01that protects
00:56:02only against
00:56:03exclusively
00:56:03against pneumonia
00:56:05from pneumococcus
00:56:06which is a bacterium
00:56:07it's not a virus
00:56:07better do it
00:56:09naturally
00:56:10he did well to do it
00:56:11but it doesn't protect
00:56:12Unfortunately
00:56:12against pneumonia
00:56:13from coronavirus
00:56:14with regard to
00:56:16the people
00:56:16more at risk
00:56:18to develop
00:56:21a serious illness
00:56:22because they have
00:56:22of pathologies
00:56:23basic
00:56:24Already
00:56:25they had
00:56:26some problems
00:56:26of health
00:56:27it's clear
00:56:28what is it worth
00:56:29even more
00:56:30the council
00:56:31and the recommendation
00:56:32must stay
00:56:32very considerate
00:56:34Why
00:56:36we need to protect
00:56:37pregnant women
00:56:38for example
00:56:39we have
00:56:39two colleagues
00:56:40that we left at home
00:56:41if it were the flu
00:56:41with the vaccine
00:56:42here unfortunately
00:56:42the vaccine
00:56:43it's not there yet
00:56:44so what should we do
00:56:45for pregnant women
00:56:46there is caution
00:56:47although I have to say
00:56:48that pregnant women
00:56:50they don't seem to have
00:56:51a greater risk
00:56:52of serious complications
00:56:53it seems that
00:56:54whatever happens
00:56:55can give life
00:56:56to the children
00:56:57normally
00:56:58but it's clear
00:56:59if they had a high fever
00:57:01close to giving birth
00:57:03whatever happens
00:57:04it would be dangerous
00:57:05be careful
00:57:07it's very important
00:57:07just one thing
00:57:08I wanted to ask
00:57:09to the professor
00:57:10but only because
00:57:12we are old
00:57:12because today
00:57:13they gave
00:57:14the percentage
00:57:15of the dead
00:57:16on the sick
00:57:175-8%
00:57:18Meaning what
00:57:18more than double
00:57:20of what we read
00:57:20in China
00:57:21there is no one
00:57:22another with cause
00:57:23there are two things
00:57:24to say
00:57:24a
00:57:25if we go
00:57:26to stratify
00:57:28by age group
00:57:29let's see that
00:57:30we don't have
00:57:31a lethality
00:57:32greater
00:57:33compared to that
00:57:34of the Chinese
00:57:35we have
00:57:36a population
00:57:36much older
00:57:37than that of Guan
00:57:38but really a lot
00:57:39of 20%
00:57:41second thing
00:57:42it depends a lot
00:57:43since it's been done
00:57:44the test
00:57:45that is, if I do
00:57:46a policy
00:57:47of tests
00:57:47very active
00:57:49that is, if you arrive
00:57:50late
00:57:50I will take
00:57:50no no no
00:57:52if the numerator
00:57:54it's bigger
00:57:54oh sure
00:57:55because I will identify
00:57:57as if we
00:57:57we went there
00:57:58to search
00:57:59ninth
00:57:59the denominator
00:58:00I will identify
00:58:01many people
00:58:01even asymptomatic
00:58:03without symptoms
00:58:04without surrender
00:58:04we have the connection
00:58:06Scaifa Street
00:58:06lethality is decreasing
00:58:07instead if I narrow down
00:58:09those who have
00:58:09more serious symptoms
00:58:11the lethality
00:58:12he gets up
00:58:13Therefore
00:58:13we are doing
00:58:15for some time now
00:58:15for a problem
00:58:16of feasibility
00:58:17Also
00:58:18we test above all
00:58:19the people
00:58:20that they have
00:58:20of the symptoms
00:58:21At that time
00:58:21professorship
00:58:22sorry to interrupt
00:58:24Joan
00:58:24be patient
00:58:25because then you
00:58:25that you are in Beijing
00:58:26that by now
00:58:27you will answer us
00:58:28I would like to go
00:58:29but from the water clean
00:58:30Why
00:58:31we are doing
00:58:33of provocations
00:58:34this is obvious
00:58:35No
00:58:35for example
00:58:36Sgarbi says
00:58:36you all go to Codogno
00:58:38if we all go
00:58:39in Codogno
00:58:40with the rules
00:58:40which have been
00:58:41let's say
00:58:42well clarified
00:58:44from her
00:58:45Before
00:58:45among other things
00:58:46we risk
00:58:47simply
00:58:47to go towards
00:58:48to a crime
00:58:49Right
00:58:49Lacquanites
00:58:52allow me
00:58:53to say
00:58:53one thing
00:58:54because above all
00:58:56in this period
00:58:58we saw
00:58:59which are they
00:58:59the effects
00:59:00devastating
00:59:00of news
00:59:02uncontrolled
00:59:03of news
00:59:03false
00:59:04this moment
00:59:04it should do it for us
00:59:05reflect
00:59:05on the importance
00:59:06of a piece of information
00:59:08made from sources
00:59:09certain
00:59:10I am a policeman
00:59:11I'm used to it
00:59:12to suffer
00:59:13the criticisms
00:59:14the criticisms
00:59:15they are legitimate
00:59:17I remember
00:59:18from one point
00:59:18of sight
00:59:19technician
00:59:20That
00:59:20the incitement
00:59:22to violate
00:59:23the laws
00:59:24it's a crime
00:59:25Therefore
00:59:26I hope
00:59:27That
00:59:28an account
00:59:30And
00:59:30to make paradoxes
00:59:32to do some
00:59:33clear
00:59:33provocations
00:59:34but I remember
00:59:35that there is a limit
00:59:36legal
00:59:36fixed by the
00:59:37penal code
00:59:38that instigate
00:59:39to violate
00:59:41the laws
00:59:42it's a crime
00:59:43to make an apology
00:59:44of crime
00:59:45it's equally
00:59:46crime
00:59:47Therefore
00:59:48Perhaps
00:59:49above all
00:59:50why are we talking
00:59:51of something
00:59:52which has no precedent
00:59:54Yesterday
00:59:55the boss
00:59:56of the police
00:59:57the prefect
00:59:57Gabrielli
00:59:58he sent us
00:59:59a video message
01:00:00he reminded us
01:00:01two things
01:00:02important
01:00:03the first
01:00:04is that
01:00:04this type
01:00:05of legislation
01:00:06it has no precedent
01:00:07in our
01:00:08republican history
01:00:09and for this very reason
01:00:11to its managers
01:00:13he gave
01:00:14an indication
01:00:15precise
01:00:15let's make sure
01:00:17that everyone
01:00:17in the chain of command
01:00:20we can be
01:00:21aware
01:00:22what is needed
01:00:23For
01:00:23apply
01:00:24these laws
01:00:25penalty
01:00:27and humanity
01:00:28humanity
01:00:29that we use
01:00:29towards
01:00:30of people
01:00:31which must be
01:00:31help
01:00:32to understand
01:00:33the limits
01:00:33and the penalty
01:00:35towards
01:00:36of those
01:00:37which
01:00:37I am not able
01:00:38to understand
01:00:39the importance
01:00:40for everyone
01:00:41to respect
01:00:42the rules
01:00:42first we talked
01:00:43of immunity
01:00:44mass
01:00:45of immunity
01:00:46of flock
01:00:46I believe
01:00:47which more than any other
01:00:48what in this
01:00:49moment aside
01:00:50of all
01:00:50servant
01:00:52responsibility
01:00:53mass
01:00:54responsibility
01:00:55of flock
01:00:56isolate
01:00:57and don't give
01:00:58further echo
01:01:00to whom
01:01:01send
01:01:02messages
01:01:03That
01:01:03for my
01:01:04very modest opinion
01:01:05I really am
01:01:06the limits
01:01:07of the code
01:01:07criminal
01:01:07listen
01:01:08the aquanites
01:01:08meanwhile
01:01:09she was
01:01:09very clear
01:01:10on this
01:01:11why not
01:01:11must
01:01:12to schnitzel
01:01:13to commit
01:01:13a crime
01:01:14this is
01:01:14very important
01:01:16you have to stay
01:01:17be careful
01:01:17I wanted them
01:01:18say
01:01:19then she said
01:01:19there is one
01:01:20of course there is also
01:01:21an attitude
01:01:22of humanity
01:01:22because I guess
01:01:23that if a girl
01:01:25is going
01:01:25it moves
01:01:26what do I know
01:01:26from Cristoforo
01:01:27Columbus
01:01:28in Taumba
01:01:28of Nero
01:01:29to go and find
01:01:29the mother
01:01:30who is in difficulty
01:01:31it's clear
01:01:32which is different
01:01:32from that
01:01:34that in a manner
01:01:34Bold
01:01:35he's going to spit
01:01:36to the people
01:01:37on me
01:01:38Meaning what
01:01:38No
01:01:39the aquanites
01:01:40Certain
01:01:41but
01:01:42doctor
01:01:43look
01:01:43the decree
01:01:46that we
01:01:46how can I say
01:01:47let's try to interpret
01:01:49in the most correct way
01:01:50according to intentions
01:01:51of the legislator
01:01:52provides
01:01:53the so-called
01:01:54state of necessity
01:01:55it's clear
01:01:56that if I
01:01:57I have to
01:01:57to look after
01:01:58a relative
01:01:59a family member
01:02:00which is in one
01:02:01state of difficulty
01:02:02because maybe a mother
01:02:05old woman
01:02:05like me
01:02:06he can't carry
01:02:07more bags
01:02:08of the expense
01:02:09I have to help her
01:02:11and bring them
01:02:13the shopping
01:02:14the problem
01:02:15this is it
01:02:16That
01:02:16but also on that one
01:02:18which is the part
01:02:18regulations
01:02:19more complex
01:02:20Why
01:02:20let's try to be
01:02:22clear
01:02:22there is much discussion
01:02:24on the possibility
01:02:25to do
01:02:25the walk
01:02:26the decree speaks
01:02:28of activities
01:02:28motor skills
01:02:29physical activity
01:02:30it is allowed
01:02:31because as it seemed to me
01:02:33to hear study
01:02:33it's important
01:02:34for our health
01:02:35and for our psyche
01:02:36it's not possible
01:02:39do it
01:02:40not respecting
01:02:41the distances
01:02:42of safety
01:02:44because of this
01:02:44I repeat
01:02:45I think that
01:02:46more than anything else
01:02:47it would be very nice
01:02:48if more than fear
01:02:49of the police
01:02:50of the forces
01:02:51of the order
01:02:51it was awareness
01:02:52that respect the rules
01:02:54it's something for ourselves
01:02:55and the rule
01:02:56is to stay at home
01:02:59fear must be
01:03:00towards
01:03:01of the disease
01:03:02not the police
01:03:03Certain
01:03:03listen
01:03:04the Juaniti
01:03:04among other things
01:03:07now the parks
01:03:08also in Rome
01:03:08the Raggi
01:03:09he closed it
01:03:10because the problem
01:03:10since they didn't come
01:03:11respect distances
01:03:13Unfortunately
01:03:14Rome too
01:03:15the Raggi
01:03:15he decided
01:03:16they tell me
01:03:17from the editorial staff
01:03:18he decided
01:03:18to close
01:03:19the parks
01:03:20so what he says
01:03:21the Juaniti
01:03:21it's very important
01:03:22if he has patience
01:03:25because then I
01:03:26I wanted to underline
01:03:27with her
01:03:28again
01:03:28the fact of not going
01:03:31to act as a spreader
01:03:32why are you looking
01:03:33you have to be careful
01:03:34even to do this
01:03:35Juaniti said
01:03:36this is a crime
01:03:37very serious
01:03:38that is, it is not a fine
01:03:39you can't go
01:03:41and infect others
01:03:43because it is
01:03:43you are not an idiot
01:03:46in this case
01:03:46you are criminals
01:03:47so let's talk about it
01:03:48with him again
01:03:49I
01:03:50before connecting
01:03:52with Claudia
01:03:52I know that in Paris
01:03:53we have another one
01:03:54connection
01:03:56then we are
01:03:58with Nicoletta Manzione
01:04:00in Paris
01:04:01we look
01:04:01Nicoletta
01:04:02good evening to you
01:04:03so what happens
01:04:04Nicoletta
01:04:05which seems
01:04:05which seems absurd
01:04:07that also
01:04:08European countries
01:04:10they didn't understand
01:04:11in time
01:04:12Rezza said
01:04:13us in short
01:04:14we were caught
01:04:14suddenly
01:04:15we have equipped ourselves
01:04:16but the European countries
01:04:17they didn't see
01:04:18what was happening
01:04:19in Italy
01:04:20you're right
01:04:20what's happening
01:04:21that we
01:04:22from France
01:04:23we were also
01:04:23teased
01:04:24in a way
01:04:25really bad
01:04:26that is this
01:04:27this little one
01:04:28small images
01:04:29that come
01:04:30from Canal Plus
01:04:31that really
01:04:31they did
01:04:32make everyone nervous
01:04:33let's see it together
01:04:34he makes you pizza
01:04:35crown
01:04:39the new Italian pizza
01:04:41who's going to do it?
01:04:41the world tour
01:04:47At that time
01:04:48withdrawn immediately
01:04:50immediately
01:04:50with a lot
01:04:51of apologies
01:04:51but then
01:04:52Nicoletta
01:04:53we saw
01:04:53the hands
01:04:53I don't know anymore
01:04:54if they are fake
01:04:55or they are not fake
01:04:56because when
01:04:57I saw the demonstration
01:04:58of the Smurfs
01:04:59of those who said
01:05:00we are smurfs
01:05:01we of the coronavirus
01:05:03No
01:05:03so many mistakes
01:05:04we don't care about anything
01:05:06I thought
01:05:07at first
01:05:08that it was
01:05:08you know
01:05:09those fake images
01:05:10Nicoletta
01:05:11now instead
01:05:12they closed
01:05:13the Eiffel Tower
01:05:13Right?
01:05:15Yes
01:05:16Federica
01:05:17it's like this
01:05:17these images
01:05:18of the Smurfs
01:05:19they are not fake
01:05:20and not even
01:05:21the Canal Plus video
01:05:23which was immediately
01:05:24withdrawn
01:05:25with apologies
01:05:25live
01:05:26to the ambassador
01:05:27Italian in Paris
01:05:28from today
01:05:30it was closed
01:05:31the Eiffel Tower
01:05:32and other places
01:05:34symbol
01:05:34of Paris
01:05:35and France
01:05:36like the museum
01:05:36of the Louvre
01:05:37that we remember
01:05:38It is one of the museums
01:05:39it's the museum
01:05:40most visited in the world
01:05:4110 million
01:05:42of visitors
01:05:43every year
01:05:44it was closed
01:05:45the Palace of Versailles
01:05:46it was closed
01:05:47also a place
01:05:48tourist
01:05:49like Disneyland
01:05:50In short
01:05:51these are the first steps
01:05:53what is he doing
01:05:53France
01:05:54to search
01:05:55to face
01:05:56the virus
01:05:56last night
01:05:57President Macron
01:05:58he spoke
01:05:59directly
01:05:59to the French
01:06:00and announced
01:06:01the first measures
01:06:02extraordinary
01:06:03that is to say
01:06:04he decided
01:06:04from Monday
01:06:05until further notice
01:06:06the closure
01:06:07of the schools
01:06:08throughout the country
01:06:09of every order
01:06:10and degree
01:06:11from kindergartens
01:06:11up to the universities
01:06:14so also
01:06:14the universities
01:06:15most prestigious
01:06:16of Paris
01:06:17and France
01:06:18from Monday
01:06:19they won't hold
01:06:20more courses
01:06:21we will try
01:06:22precisely
01:06:22to do
01:06:23of the courses
01:06:23online
01:06:24and through
01:06:25the web
01:06:25a bit
01:06:26as already
01:06:26it's being done
01:06:27in Italy
01:06:28having said that
01:06:29these measures
01:06:30they are the only ones
01:06:31which have been
01:06:32taken so far
01:06:32Why
01:06:34Despite
01:06:34Here you are
01:06:35they have been
01:06:35even closed
01:06:36the stadiums
01:06:37and from this evening
01:06:38stop
01:06:38the championships
01:06:39of League 1
01:06:40Serie A championship
01:06:42and Serie B
01:06:42the fans
01:06:43of Paris Saint Germain
01:06:45two nights ago
01:06:45they gathered
01:06:46by the thousands
01:06:47in front of the doors
01:06:48of the stadium
01:06:49just to support
01:06:50the team
01:06:51who was busy
01:06:51in a game
01:06:53so there is still
01:06:54little awareness
01:06:56of necessity
01:06:57of behaviors
01:06:58more rigid
01:06:59and measures
01:07:00more restrictive
01:07:00to search
01:07:01to contain
01:07:02the contagion
01:07:02even if Macron
01:07:03he asked everyone
01:07:04a behavior
01:07:06precisely
01:07:07to keep
01:07:08a line
01:07:09of conduct
01:07:11in public
01:07:12and at home too
01:07:13that is precisely
01:07:14able
01:07:15to protect
01:07:15the weakest
01:07:16the weakest
01:07:17it is repeated
01:07:17they are the people
01:07:18who are over 70 years old
01:07:19who have breathing problems
01:07:21and then they go
01:07:24protected
01:07:25from all over society
01:07:26but
01:07:27in Paris
01:07:27this evening
01:07:28everything is still open
01:07:30there are restaurants
01:07:32bistro
01:07:32and brasserie
01:07:33completely sold out
01:07:35the subways
01:07:35but me first Nicoletta
01:07:36I saw the colleague
01:07:37Alessandro Cassieri
01:07:38I saw it
01:07:39on Rai 1
01:07:41that showed
01:07:42all those
01:07:43who are sitting
01:07:43calmly
01:07:44at the tables
01:07:45as if nothing had happened
01:07:46without
01:07:47with a distance
01:07:48close-up
01:07:48and so it is understood
01:07:50Very well
01:07:50that's still there
01:07:51it was not understood
01:07:53the emergency
01:07:54Thank you Nicoletta Manzioni
01:07:55thanks for your contribution
01:07:56I thank
01:07:58Ivo Guderzo
01:07:59Gilberto Masi
01:08:00and Marco Bartoli
01:08:01I'm thanking
01:08:02all those
01:08:02that they send me
01:08:04on air
01:08:05only Giovanna Botteri
01:08:06I have to say
01:08:07he is able to go
01:08:07on air alone
01:08:08you don't know
01:08:09but Giovanna Botteri
01:08:10in Beijing
01:08:11she is alone
01:08:12he puts on the microphone
01:08:13when we call her
01:08:14the microphone is raised
01:08:15he goes to answer the phone
01:08:16then he comes back
01:08:17and puts the microphone back on
01:08:19In short
01:08:20but I believe
01:08:21that was so
01:08:23even before
01:08:23of the coronavirus
01:08:24Joan
01:08:27but I don't know
01:08:28maybe because I arrived
01:08:30own
01:08:32in a moment
01:08:34particular
01:08:34eh I have to say
01:08:36that you are
01:08:37I can say one thing
01:08:38Why
01:08:38evidently
01:08:40we were
01:08:41at school
01:08:41from the boss
01:08:42which taught us
01:08:43Anyway
01:08:43to always be
01:08:44controversies
01:08:47I wanted to say
01:08:48two things
01:08:49but also
01:08:50to Professor Rezza
01:08:52Sgarbi
01:08:53he makes that speech
01:08:55Why
01:08:55for a month and a half
01:08:57while in China
01:08:59we died
01:09:00the people
01:09:01he was falling
01:09:01literally
01:09:02in the streets
01:09:03they were made
01:09:04the hospitals
01:09:05in two days
01:09:06in Italy
01:09:08his colleagues
01:09:09they repeated
01:09:10that that
01:09:11it was a virus
01:09:12which was worth
01:09:13even less
01:09:14of a virus
01:09:15seasonal
01:09:16which was like
01:09:16a cold
01:09:17seasonal
01:09:18that it was useless
01:09:19to exaggerate
01:09:20and it was done
01:09:21that same one
01:09:22controversy
01:09:22that the French
01:09:24they did with us
01:09:25that is, the Chinese
01:09:26they eat live mice
01:09:27the minimum
01:09:29what can happen to him
01:09:30it's a coronavirus
01:09:31and then
01:09:33his colleagues
01:09:35which they repeated
01:09:35This
01:09:36in particular
01:09:36a colleague of hers
01:09:37who said
01:09:38which is a cold
01:09:39seasonal
01:09:40who die
01:09:41only the old men
01:09:42that maybe
01:09:42they would have died
01:09:44Anyway
01:09:44that young people
01:09:45this thing
01:09:46it doesn't even touch him
01:09:47it's clear
01:09:48which then
01:09:49not just Sgarbi
01:09:50but I think many
01:09:51Italians
01:09:52they came out
01:09:53completely
01:09:53confused
01:09:55from this type
01:09:57of message
01:09:58and the other thing
01:10:00that he asked her
01:10:01Federica
01:10:02about why
01:10:04there is this high
01:10:05number of deaths
01:10:06and she said
01:10:07the type of swabs
01:10:08and today
01:10:09it was done
01:10:10a comparison
01:10:11at a scientific level
01:10:12between our country
01:10:13and South Korea
01:10:14South Korea
01:10:16has 67 deaths
01:10:18has more or less
01:10:19our population
01:10:21maybe he has 6 million
01:10:22Less
01:10:23but in South Korea
01:10:25they were made
01:10:263-4 times
01:10:27the number of swabs
01:10:29that have been made
01:10:30in Italy
01:10:30and it's not that in South Korea
01:10:32there are no elderly people
01:10:35listen Giovanna
01:10:36no you are
01:10:38rightly
01:10:39In short
01:10:39you're scolding
01:10:40everyone
01:10:40the other time too
01:10:41Sileri said
01:10:42the masks
01:10:42they are not needed
01:10:43Giovanna said
01:10:44if everyone gets involved
01:10:44the masks
01:10:45instead they are needed
01:10:46but I want to tell you
01:10:47one thing
01:10:47it impressed me
01:10:48which among other things
01:10:49you said
01:10:51in the many containers
01:10:53you don't sleep anymore
01:10:54where you go
01:10:54that in Iran
01:10:56There are
01:10:57they see each other
01:10:58from above
01:10:59as if they were
01:11:00of the fields
01:11:00of football
01:11:01with some players
01:11:03instead there are
01:11:04of the pits
01:11:05municipalities
01:11:08but this
01:11:09Look
01:11:10This
01:11:10Surely
01:11:11This
01:11:11they say it
01:11:12social media
01:11:13Iranians
01:11:14That
01:11:15that they have
01:11:16these images
01:11:17that are
01:11:17going out
01:11:18and this
01:11:19Why
01:11:20Iran
01:11:20he is weakened
01:11:22from the sanctions
01:11:23and has a system
01:11:24health care
01:11:24which is not
01:11:25absolutely
01:11:26able
01:11:27to face
01:11:28an emergency
01:11:29an emergency
01:11:31of this type
01:11:31they say
01:11:32that even
01:11:33the medicines
01:11:33they don't reach him
01:11:34because
01:11:36of the sanctions
01:11:37and certainly
01:11:38Surely
01:11:39what they say
01:11:40social media
01:11:41Persians
01:11:42is that the number
01:11:43of deaths
01:11:44That's not it
01:11:46official
01:11:46there could be
01:11:47one or two
01:11:48zero more
01:11:49I mean really
01:11:50a situation
01:11:51dramatic
01:11:52with these mass graves
01:11:53as big as
01:11:54soccer fields
01:11:55listen Giovanna
01:11:55we wanted you
01:11:56to show
01:11:57among other things
01:11:57we are
01:11:58with Emily De Cesare
01:11:59and then also
01:12:00Pablo Trincia
01:12:01in Milan
01:12:01we're there
01:12:03naturally
01:12:03we are asking ourselves
01:12:04everyone's a problem
01:12:05but if we say
01:12:06stay at home
01:12:07the homeless
01:12:09what's happening?
01:12:10are they still there?
01:12:11they were
01:12:12somehow
01:12:14help yourself?
01:12:15moved to some facility?
01:12:17Emily De Cesare
01:12:18you are in Rome
01:12:20in the center of Rome
01:12:20there are still
01:12:22homeless
01:12:23around?
01:12:27Good evening everyone
01:12:28yes Federica
01:12:29I am in St. Peter's Square
01:12:30in this frame
01:12:31wonderful
01:12:32and unfortunately
01:12:34with this frame
01:12:35Extremely beautiful
01:12:36but there is a world
01:12:37here
01:12:38how beautiful
01:12:39he has nothing
01:12:40because there are
01:12:40the homeless
01:12:41there are many
01:12:42they are sleeping here
01:12:43under the crowned
01:12:45consider
01:12:46we have
01:12:47Today
01:12:47we searched
01:12:48to understand better
01:12:49what was the situation
01:12:50to give you an example
01:12:51in Rome
01:12:52esteemed
01:12:53of homeless
01:12:54hello beautiful
01:12:548 thousand
01:12:55the places
01:12:56of welcome
01:12:57there are 3 thousand of them
01:12:57but unfortunately
01:12:58with the coronavirus
01:12:59they have more than halved
01:13:01because to search
01:13:03to follow the rules
01:13:04so they have to distance themselves
01:13:05the beds
01:13:06they cannot accept any
01:13:07more than that
01:13:08so not only
01:13:09there is a problem
01:13:09of viruses
01:13:11of coronavirus
01:13:11why all these people
01:13:13cannot be controlled
01:13:14and maybe
01:13:15involuntarily
01:13:16they could be
01:13:18carriers of the virus
01:13:19in addition
01:13:20if someone
01:13:21should it test positive
01:13:23there is no place
01:13:24where they can do it
01:13:25the quarantine
01:13:26even if they don't
01:13:27be so serious
01:13:28because there aren't any
01:13:29structures
01:13:29adequate
01:13:30for this type
01:13:31in person
01:13:32but the thing
01:13:33most important
01:13:34as we have
01:13:35heard so much
01:13:36talk about this
01:13:37countryside
01:13:37I'm staying at home
01:13:38I'm staying at home
01:13:38now it is being carried
01:13:40next one
01:13:42countryside
01:13:42I would like to stay
01:13:44at home
01:13:45why these people
01:13:46they don't have
01:13:47the possibility
01:13:48to have a roof
01:13:49and not to do
01:13:50rhetoric
01:13:51Federica
01:13:51at this moment
01:13:52Truly
01:13:53you can't do it
01:13:53forgetting the last ones
01:13:55why we are here
01:13:56in St. Peter's Square
01:13:57for a few hours now
01:13:58now there is a silence
01:14:00surreal
01:14:01but before the live broadcast
01:14:02many of these people
01:14:04homeless
01:14:05they were awake
01:14:06and I managed to speak
01:14:08On the contrary
01:14:08many were looking for
01:14:09to talk to me
01:14:10we have maintained
01:14:11safety distances
01:14:12although
01:14:13it wasn't this
01:14:14their problem
01:14:15their problem
01:14:15it's that they were hungry
01:14:16because with this situation
01:14:19volunteering
01:14:20logically
01:14:21it has shrunk
01:14:22very much
01:14:22and many have told me
01:14:23who didn't eat
01:14:24since yesterday evening
01:14:25there was also
01:14:27very nervous
01:14:28someone told me
01:14:28that even among themselves
01:14:29Unfortunately
01:14:30at some moments
01:14:32there are situations
01:14:33very critical
01:14:34I'm just telling you
01:14:34that at a certain point
01:14:35they arrived
01:14:36fortunately
01:14:36of the volunteers
01:14:37they started
01:14:38to distribute
01:14:38some bags
01:14:39but that
01:14:39they weren't enough
01:14:41for everyone
01:14:41Therefore
01:14:42it's normal
01:14:43that at this moment
01:14:43everyone worries
01:14:44for your own health
01:14:45for loved ones
01:14:47but really
01:14:47in these situations
01:14:48the last ones
01:14:49starting from who
01:14:50he doesn't have a roof
01:14:51and it doesn't always have
01:14:52the possibility of eating
01:14:54because many of these people
01:14:55they always told me
01:14:56which until recently
01:14:58they found a job
01:14:59of the day
01:15:00or even the exercises
01:15:01like the bar
01:15:02or the restaurants
01:15:02they gave him something
01:15:04now that everything is closed
01:15:05they really
01:15:06at some moments
01:15:07they don't have the opportunity
01:15:08to eat
01:15:09and there are not only
01:15:10extreme situations
01:15:12not under the arcades
01:15:14even of people
01:15:15who maybe lost
01:15:16recently the work
01:15:17certainly under the arcades
01:15:18Of...
01:15:19Thank you.

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