00:00and he had a conference call with the media yesterday and he talked about in his first
00:04clip here this is 27 we'll go all the way down jacob um he talked to this first clip just
00:09about
00:09what his conversations have been like so far with christian parker and the the anticipation for what
00:15it is he'll be doing yeah just uh he went to get me in space he feels like one of
00:19my uh assets is
00:21me being in space and being over to you know make tackles in space and um just running hit with
00:26my
00:26physicality and speed that i bring to the game and um i think uh him and i both are excited
00:31to
00:31see what that looks like and you know um go from there i love the little tells you can get
00:37just
00:38from specific language like you hear a specific word or you hear specific things and you go oh
00:45okay like so clearly one of the big things here is d winner saying get me in space that run
00:50and hit
00:50factor when we played the clip from mitch la pointe the cowboys director of college scouting a couple
00:55days ago when he was talking about what did d winners bring to the table the very first thing
00:58he said was man you're just talking about that run and hit factor and what he can do in space
01:02and so
01:02that clearly is like that is the focus the the focus here with d winners is keep him clean let's
01:08make
01:08sure we're playing good in the trenches keeping blockers off him get him out in space and let him
01:12just explode and destroy ball carriers that's going to be the big thing for d winners he looks the part
01:18i mean he's aggressive he's a big dude yeah you know the the the real shame in kenneth murray is
01:26he looked like your prototypical linebacker he looked like the dude you would not want to walk
01:32into the locker room with and accidentally bump into yeah and he just couldn't play and um this guy
01:39this guy looks the part the reality is that you couldn't bump into kenneth murray because he'd never
01:43be in a spot so you were never gonna see him in the hole he'd go yeah he would he
01:47would uh he would
01:48read it wrong and he'd step the other direction um and i'm seeing some pass coverage here from
01:53when he's flexible d winners is flexible in fact if you want to talk about i'm seeing some pick sixes
01:58i'm seeing some diving breakups as is the case with some of the some of the aggressive linebackers
02:04that you have in the nfl his biggest problem at times is like there's sometimes a little too much
02:09eagerness and it's a you you you over pursue and that's the sort of thing that happens with it but
02:14you he's generally a pretty fundamentally sound player he's not all pro level but he is definitely
02:20better than anything you had at linebacker last year remember he's the one that philip river sought
02:25out in that prime time game when philip was balling out and winters got him at the end and philip
02:31went
02:31and sought him out and he's like you read it you saw it nice job yeah he's uh and he's
02:36been he's a
02:37really good student um the the chatter about him is all the work that he puts in and uh the
02:43time on
02:43task that he has is a big thing and that'll be important because he was asked cut 28 are you
02:48familiar with this type of 3-4 scheme i'm actually learning the playbook now so um there are some
02:53similarities as far as uh what we're running but um for the most part uh it's a little different for
02:59me but i think i'll excel in the defense for sure competing every day is you know that's the the
03:04least
03:04um that's the thing that you have to do every day is compete and so uh my biggest thing is
03:09coming in
03:09and kind of helping the young guys grow and teach them what i know you know do what i can
03:14do to help
03:15them and exhale their game and um you know build that brotherhood i know it's a new room so um
03:20it's
03:21going to take some time but i'm really excited to get with those guys and uh showing what i'm about
03:26it's not really a surprise i guess that these would be different schemes san francisco and dallas since
03:32dallas win also diggy zoo is not going to fit san francisco y'all want him yep we'll take him
03:36that's because there's this is a little bit of like hey we got our mix uh maybe our mismatched
03:41parts a little bit how do we swap them out the big thing the the big discussion point that was
03:46out
03:46there obviously heading into the draft and the thing you could say they didn't yet they addressed a lot
03:50of their needs but if you want to say there's a specific they didn't get it was the green dot
03:53thing
03:55and everybody had said all right we got to go out there we got to get the green dot linebacker
03:58get that
03:58they didn't they didn't get that uh they didn't get it in the draft they didn't get it in this
04:02trade
04:02for d winners because he was asked about that how much experience do you have with the green dot
04:07no i do not um actually last year is when they start kind of implementing me in that spot a
04:11little
04:11bit um but as far as experience i really haven't had any i've only done a few practices with the
04:17green
04:17dot so um that'll be new but it's the first time for everything and you know i'm willing to do
04:22whatever it takes honestly i feel like i do a pretty good job of communicating um at the will
04:26linebacker position but being a light being a mike linebacker you have to be able to you know run
04:32the defense and make the cause and i think that takes a lot of film study and um it's kind
04:37of a
04:39different um aspect to the game that not a lot of other guys do so um i think just taking
04:43a film room
04:44um extremely serious and uh you know just running it let's just say they don't add any other
04:51linebackers and we're in oxnard for practice number one who's gonna who's gonna do this
04:58and here's my follow-up question are you just relaying what christian parker is telling you
05:05or how much more are you having to add on with your own knowledge versus just repeating the call
05:11so because if it's just repeating the call i mean who cares well so you're gonna put in the call
05:18and then a lot of times the green dot is then also gonna be responsible for or just the mic
05:23will
05:23be responsible for surveying and looking and seeing is everybody lined up at like the technique they're
05:29supposed to be so like you'll see sometimes on tape um like when sean lee was here sean lee you
05:35would see him physically walk down to the defensive line and he'd like smack somebody's side like move
05:39over like get into your gap and like you're kind of directing things and putting guys in in position
05:43that's why the mic is generally you're right in the middle of the defense you're on the the second
05:48level between the first and third you are dead center so you can kind of you're you're the closest
05:52point for everybody as a rallying point and that's why it doesn't make sense for like caleb downs if he's
05:57playing traditional safety to do it because you're not in the best communicating area you're in the back
06:02it's it's harder just sometimes a lot of times to like direct everything from all the way in the back
06:07you're far the farthest away there's a little teams will use pretty frequently though the nickel
06:11because the nickel is up on the line of scrimmage he's closer in line to the defensive side you've
06:16obviously got the far corner but that's a lot of hand signals that you can do in different things
06:19like that um but i would guess practice one oh uh i'm gonna guess they're gonna try to make d
06:27winners do it or see how he can handle thing in otas and different things like that d winners or
06:32there's they're very well maybe a chance that that's caleb downs what about over shown it doesn't
06:38sound like they've wanted him to have that like it's not like a thing that they don't think he's
06:42capable of it's just they it seems like they want to get him focused on just playing reactive they
06:48don't want to necessarily have him orchestrating and directing all the traffic uh d winners talked
06:52with the dallas media yesterday uh the dallas cowboys new veteran linebacker and if you're gonna have
06:58run the green dot if you're gonna run a defense do all those different things you need to learn
07:02obviously from coaches and it also helps to learn from veterans who are on top of things
07:06probably no better veteran to learn from than fred warner who d winners has played next to for the
07:10last couple years so d winners what did you learn from fred warner his day-to-day life as as
07:15being a
07:15linebacker um you know how to watch film how to you know come to practice or come to work every
07:21day and
07:21the attention to detail that he brought um i think that's what really makes him the best and um i
07:26think
07:26he does it at a high level obviously and you know i feel like um from a communicator standpoint how
07:31he
07:31runs the defense and um just know what offenses are going to do like he's a nerd at heart when
07:38it
07:38comes to film so um just being able to soak all that information in while being with him for three
07:43years was amazing and now i'm excited to start my new um venture d winners of course was moving into
07:50a house in arlington when he got the call grew up watching the cowboys with his family took his 30
07:56visit
07:58alongside overshone in 2023 he sent his truck out to california so he was not expecting this move at
08:07all and in california california uh san fran gm john lynch had this to say about him uh d has
08:15done a lot
08:16for us but six round pick at a tcu uh we felt like our linebacker room was going to be
08:23in a good spot d is
08:25one of the favorite guys in that locker room amongst his teammates so that's the really the
08:30thing from john lynch that jumped out to me the cowboys started bringing this up around the time
08:36of the osa trade me and stephen jones got a good relationship we kind of held it off for a
08:43while
08:43we wanted to see what was going to happen in the draft but the cowboys stayed on it yeah cowboys
08:47were
08:47i mean this is part of the surveying of the the linebacker landscape they did where we talked about
08:52other names patrick queen aziz al shair uh jordan brooks that was all part of that evaluation and
08:57kind of looking over it we mentioned though the the idea about the green dot and what they've got
09:01at linebacker now uh we've been peppering in some of these clips from personnel guys that came on after
09:08the draft uh mitch lapointe who we just referenced their director of college scouting who talked about
09:12what he liked about d winners uh similarly we've heard already that they're going to play jay sean
09:16barham at linebacker instead of edge and there were a lot of people who projected edge yeah i was
09:21watching um even more draft review last night this is like a problem watching adult entertainment for
09:29you now i need a practice i need i need i need otas i need minicamp i need actual football
09:33to take
09:34place and the guy minicamp today what's that we got rookie minicamp today um some of the guys that i
09:41was watching were saying i really don't like him at linebacker versus edge oh well mitch lapointe's
09:48going to tell you why those guys are wrong trevor sykema oh the physicality and the speed and
09:54athleticism like i went back and watched all of 24 he started inside backer but i mean he's 240 pounds
09:59long arms and he's nasty you know and he's got ability to pressure the quarterback he can blitz he
10:04actually in coverage he's for his size he's really good so i mean going back there like okay week three
10:10after week three they move him to edge really just to get their best 11 on the field but yeah
10:14he's got
10:15he's got all the tools to play linebacker and we played that clip from uh ross winchie a couple
10:19days ago where he said absolutely can be an inside backer that's not a reach projection at all he can
10:25absolutely play that and i i personally when i was watching him i liked him better at linebacker
10:29it is again the the baby arvel reese or the the like lesser man's arvel reese comparison that's out
10:35there reese was a guy who right now plays better linebacker than than he does edge but the instincts
10:39are there so i think the ability is there for him to do a little bit of both obviously but
10:44i would not be surprised if the projection being linebacker kind of just holds and he is a
10:49linebacker who just blitzes is how they end up using him mike florio will join us at eight o'clock
10:54this morning from profootballtalk.com to talk about chris sims mike vrabel and george pickens is that
11:01because choppy's gone that mike agreed to come on florio's like yeah fine i'll be able to i did
11:07he had a uh he put a mark sanchez update the other day and i was looking at the cover
11:12image that he used
11:12and it looked like it was like an eagles photo or something i was about ready to troll the hell
11:16it turned out it's jets but i'm i'm keeping track of that every time now to see what picture he
11:20posts
11:21just so the chop can be happy
11:22happy
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