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00:00Thank you all
00:49On September 16th of last year
00:52in this villa on Via Padre Genocchi in Ravenna
00:56A large, gloomy building that has been uninhabited for years
01:01ideal refuge for a vampire
01:04such a brutal crime was committed
01:08to cause disturbance
01:10even in those who, by profession
01:13he is familiar with bloody deeds
01:16because here all limits have truly been exceeded
01:20Who committed that outrage?
01:23he stopped being a man
01:25and turned into a ferocious beast
01:30The victim is her
01:32Giulia Ballestri
01:34beautiful 39 year old lady
01:36mother of three children
01:38Poor Giulia
01:40on the morning of September 16th
01:42she had ventured
01:44inside this dark building
01:47that makes your skin crawl just looking at it
01:50even if it's daytime
01:52even if you are in the company of other people
01:57In there
01:58Giulia had entered there with her husband
02:01Dr. Matteo Cagnoni
02:04nationally renowned dermatologist
02:07owner of this kind of brick mausoleum
02:11from which the woman was separating
02:14and which he was afraid of
02:16She had confessed it herself
02:20to friends and relatives
02:22Giulia had come out of there
02:25three days later
02:27dead though
02:28with his head smashed in by blows from a stick
02:32and with a disfigured face
02:34Of that horrible crime
02:37the judiciary has called to answer
02:41Matthew Cagnoni
02:42Giulia's husband
02:45I am innocent
02:47the dermatologist said
02:50during the preliminary hearing
02:52of June 22nd last
02:55The prosecutors of Ravenna
02:57they got a bark
02:59and through his lawyers
03:02he asked that they be granted
03:05house arrest
03:06request rejected by the court
03:09without a shadow of a doubt
03:12he was the one who killed his wife
03:14the prosecutors had written
03:17in the request for indictment
03:20and he reiterated it
03:22APM Cristina Daniello
03:24during the hearing on June 26
03:28in an indictment
03:30that looked like a horror movie
03:33Dr. Cagnoni
03:35APM said
03:37without a shadow of a doubt
03:39he killed his wife
03:41and he did it
03:42with a bestiality
03:44and an unparalleled ferocity
03:54listen to what is written
03:56in the request for Cagnoni's indictment
03:59he violently attacked the woman
04:03hitting her repeatedly on the head
04:06with a blunt object
04:08in the species
04:09a wooden branch
04:11about 55 cm long
04:13and of the diameter of centimeters set
04:17then dragged the woman
04:20that even though hit
04:22he had not lost consciousness
04:24along the stairs
04:25up to the hall
04:27he hit her on the head again
04:30then he forcibly led the woman
04:34in the basement
04:36dragging her by the ankles
04:38along the sea stairs
04:40in such a way
04:42that the same
04:43banged repeatedly
04:45and painfully the head
04:47on every step
04:53for these horrible misdeeds
04:56Matthew Cagnoni
04:57will be judged
04:59from the Assize Court of Ravenna
05:01will have to answer
05:03of aggravated homicide
05:05and concealment of a corpse
05:07the first hearing
05:10it was set
05:11for next October 10th
05:13the chief prosecutor of Ravenna
05:16Dr. Mancini
05:18he appears troubled
05:19from all he saw
05:21in the villa on Via Padre Genotti
05:24Mrs. Ballestri
05:26she was completely naked
05:28except Bra
05:29however relieved
05:32and we didn't find
05:34clothes obviously
05:37But who is Matteo Cagnoni?
05:39This Dr. Gekil
05:41and Mr. Hyde
05:42that on one hand
05:44collaborates with Linea Rosa
05:45the association that fights
05:47violence against women
05:49and now instead
05:50he is accused
05:51of having massacred his wife
05:53in that animalistic way
05:57in Ravenna
05:59Dr. Cagnoni
06:00he is not just any person
06:01for starters
06:04belongs to one of the families
06:06most prominent in the city
06:07like his wife Giulia, after all
06:10who is the daughter of a well-known industrialist
06:12but Cagnoni
06:14it's something more
06:15he is a famous dermatologist
06:18and appears frequently on television
06:21Good evening, good night
06:22dear friends of Raiuno
06:23Matthew Cagnoni
06:24doctor wrote this book
06:26If skin could talk
06:27guest tonight
06:29Matteo Cagnoni whispers
06:30If skin could talk
06:31what would you say?
06:33I probably can't take it anymore
06:34subjected to many stresses
06:36in this society
06:37We'll talk about this
06:38but not only this
06:39with Matteo Cagnoni
06:40We are waiting for you like every night
06:42as usual
06:43see you soon
06:49Maybe also for this reason
06:51that people are in a rush
06:52for months here
06:53to peek into the house
06:55of horrors
06:56for media fame
06:58of this fellow citizen of theirs
07:00but now
07:02locked up in prison
07:03must answer
07:05of a defamatory accusation
07:07that of having massacred
07:09the wife beaten
07:10how would it be done
07:12with an animal
07:13angry and ferocious
07:14with arrogance
07:16of those who would like to put back
07:18a person in his place
07:20as if poor Giulia
07:22was worth less than zero
07:25this inhuman bestiality
07:27had shocked
07:29many people
07:30I remain of the opinion that our brain is a computer
07:34that when it goes haywire you obviously can't reason, I don't know.
07:41There are no words.
07:43Three children, but how is this possible?
07:45A job like that, a mother, I don't know, there are words.
07:54He was jealous because his wife had a lover.
07:57This is the conviction of the investigators.
08:00And he was furious because the woman had decided to leave him.
08:05Perhaps this was what Dr. Cagnoni could not tolerate.
08:11Abandonment by his wife.
08:14The disintegration of his beautiful family.
08:17An unbearable affront to the public image he had built for himself.
08:23Successful man, dermatologist to important people.
08:27The expert who appears on television.
08:30And finally the happy man who flaunts whenever he can
08:36his beautiful wife and beautiful family.
08:40Because Dr. Cagnoni is someone who cares about appearances.
08:44Weren't he and Giulia considered the most beautiful couple in Ravenna?
08:54For a year, however, the beautiful and happy family was just an illusion.
09:01The doctor suspected that there was another man in his wife's life.
09:08And to be sure, he turned to a detective.
09:12A GPS device had been placed under Giulia's car to monitor all her movements.
09:19The woman's cell phone would have even been cloned and as a consequence Matteo Cagnoni would have come into possession of it
09:30of all the conversations between the wife and her new partner, even the most intimate ones.
09:38At this point the doctor would have confronted Giulia by blackmailing her.
09:44If you want a separation, Dr. Cagnoni reportedly told his wife, we can discuss it.
09:50Take it easy though.
09:52In the meantime, if you don't want me to let your father and mother listen to the recordings
09:58and to your friends, everything between us must continue as before.
10:05Giulia had accepted for the love of her children.
10:18However, when the dermatologist understood that Giulia was adamant about the separation,
10:25in view of the divorce proceedings, so as not to have to give in to his wife,
10:31he had begun to get rid of his assets, giving them to very close relatives
10:37in exchange for inadequate compensation or even through donations.
10:44In this way he would have gotten rid of a property and funds worth more than a million euros.
10:54And now let's go back to the morning of September 16, 2016,
11:00when, in the gloomy villa on Via Padre Genocchi, all that horror explodes.
11:09According to the Ravenna prosecutors, Dr. Cagnoni had planned down to the smallest detail
11:16the slaughter of his wife.
11:20Two days before, he had the nurse cancel all the appointments for Friday the 16th
11:27and from the garage of his house, in via Giordano Bruno,
11:32He took the pine trunk that he will use as a weapon.
11:38He finally convinced Giulia to go in there with him that morning,
11:45under the pretext of selecting and photographing some paintings,
11:50to have them appraised and then sell them.
11:53given the situation, to go with a person with whom at that moment there is not exactly an idyllic relationship,
12:04in a house like that which, you think you can say this,
12:09it seems like a den of horrors, dark, uninhabited, dirty, full of rats, gloomy,
12:18and so, well, we really don't know how the woman decided to leave.
12:30Perhaps Giulia had agreed to enter with him into that cave that terrified her.
12:36so as not to irritate him in that delicate phase of separation,
12:42but he didn't trust it and had dark forebodings.
12:46“If you still haven’t seen me by 6, come and look for me,” Giulia had told her new partner.
12:56However, that morning, Matteo and Giulia had accompanied their children to school together
13:03and then, just like a normal couple, they went to have breakfast at this bar.
13:13Look carefully at this image, because it is chilling.
13:17It's a still from the bar's camera.
13:21It's 8:23.
13:24Poor Giulia, with her big white bag, pretends to be calm,
13:30but his heart is full of anguish.
13:33Because he's about to go to a place he never wants to go.
13:38And he, who for the prosecutors of Ravenna is the murderer,
13:43he too simulates normality.
13:47But he certainly has in his mind what he is about to do.
13:52and tries not to make mistakes so as not to alarm her.
13:59In short, a couple that seems normal,
14:02but that's not normal.
14:05Because next to them, in that bar,
14:09invisible and inexorable,
14:11there is death,
14:13that in less than an hour
14:14will take the unfortunate Giulia away forever.
14:30The massacre was completed,
14:32you have to hide the body
14:34to delay its discovery as much as possible.
14:39But in the meantime, all that blood needs to be erased.
14:44Cagnoni immediately gets to work,
14:47but he realizes very soon
14:49that to complete that undertaking
14:52it takes a long time
14:53and the right equipment.
14:56So he stops almost immediately and leaves.
15:06But in the course of that clumsy attempt at washing,
15:10Cagnoni, according to the investigators,
15:13leave at least two pieces of evidence lying around
15:16that would nail him.
15:18One is fundamental.
15:21It is the palm print of his left hand,
15:24soaked in Giulia's blood,
15:27printed on an old refrigerator.
15:30Then there's that shoe print
15:32on the bloody floor.
15:35It is a less solid proof than the other,
15:38but with very high probability,
15:40prosecutors argue,
15:43that's Matteo Cagnoni's shoeprint.
15:50There would also be images from this camera
15:54to match the dermatologist.
15:58It is located on the provincial command building
16:01of the Financial Police,
16:03at the beginning of Via Padre Genocchi.
16:07They take a car to them
16:10similar in size and shape
16:14to the one that would be in use
16:17and was in use by the suspect,
16:20they see two people coming out of it
16:21and then just one go back up,
16:25on time that Friday
16:27it might be compatible
16:28with that of the fact of the murder.
16:43Anyway,
16:45moved away quickly
16:47from that dark villa,
16:49Matthew Cagnoni
16:51pick up the children from school
16:53and rushes to Florence,
16:55in his father Mario's villa,
16:57he too is a successful dermatologist.
17:06Here is Dr. Cagnoni,
17:08just arrived in Florence,
17:10filmed by a camera
17:12of surveillance of the villa.
17:15The dermatologist goes back and forth
17:18and from the car
17:19he carries stuff behind a hedge.
17:24Here he comes back.
17:25he is holding a blue jacket.
17:28It couldn't be the jacket
17:30that he wore in the morning
17:31shortly before the crime,
17:33the one that the police
17:34will never find.
17:37Cagnoni seems confused and lost.
17:41But be careful,
17:43what does he have in his hand?
17:45That's not the big white bag
17:47that Giulia had in the morning in the bar,
17:51which like the jacket
17:53the police will never find.
17:55If it's not the same,
17:57she resembles him like a drop of water.
17:59Don't you think so?
18:05Meanwhile in Ravenna,
18:07Saturday, September 17,
18:09the day after Giulia's murder,
18:12at 6pm,
18:13his brother goes to do
18:16the missing person report.
18:18And Sunday,
18:20around midnight,
18:21on the advice of Giulia's new partner,
18:24the police rush to the villa
18:26of Father Genocchi Street
18:28to look for the missing woman there.
18:31Meanwhile a vigilante
18:33call Matteo Cagnoni on his cell phone
18:36to warn him that the police are at the villa.
18:40Cagnoni's cell phone
18:42it rings for a long time,
18:44but nobody answers.
18:46Then the vigilante
18:47call Giulia's cell phone,
18:50who obviously can't answer.
18:52In the end,
18:54when midnight on Sunday
18:56It's been 11 minutes,
18:58the vigilante
19:00call Mario Cagnoni to Florence,
19:03Matthew's father,
19:04and tells him
19:05that the police are in the villa
19:07and explains
19:08that something happened,
19:11but adds
19:12who knows nothing more.
19:15Right after this phone call
19:17at 11:00 midnight,
19:20Cagnoni son
19:20send a message
19:22to an ex-girlfriend of his
19:24with whom he was supposed to meet
19:26the next day,
19:28telling her he can't see her
19:30because a big trouble happened
19:33and immediately after
19:34send a message to Whatsapp
19:37to his secretary.
19:38“Hi, Giorgia,” says the message,
19:41"Please,
19:43cancel all appointments for tomorrow,
19:45a tragedy has happened."
19:48So,
19:49a long time ago
19:51that the news was spread
19:53that in the villa
19:54a body had been found,
19:56which however only after
19:58a further period of time
19:59will be identified
20:01like that of Giulia Ballestri,
20:03in the messages he sends
20:05as soon as he learns
20:07that the police are at the villa,
20:09Dogs,
20:10as the magistrates write,
20:12seems to possess
20:13divinatory faculty.
20:16It is certain, in fact,
20:17what a big problem,
20:19even a tragedy,
20:21is about to fall upon him.
20:24Which is true,
20:25but how does he know?
20:27And what do you think he does?
20:30Matthew Cagnoni
20:32when around 1.30
20:33the police knock on the door
20:36of the villa in Florence?
20:37With the agility of a cat
20:40jump out of the window,
20:42which is not very low,
20:43and runs away.
20:46He will return to the villa
20:47only the next morning,
20:49thinking that by now
20:50the police are no longer there.
20:52Instead the police are still there
20:55and arrests him.
21:00But that night,
21:02during his absence,
21:04hear how amazing
21:07statements
21:08his elderly mother does
21:10to the policeman
21:11that asks her
21:12where is the son
21:13and why the three children
21:16they sleep in that house
21:18and I'm not with my mother.
21:20The children are here,
21:22the lady replies,
21:24because mother Giulia
21:26she was killed
21:27three days ago
21:28in that villa
21:29from an Albanian
21:31that she
21:32had surprised
21:33to steal.
21:34But the newspapers
21:36they didn't talk about it,
21:37the policeman replies
21:39trying to hide
21:41his astonishment.
21:42Why it happened
21:44just three days ago,
21:46the lady replies.
21:47You will see that the newspapers
21:49they will talk about it
21:50in the next few days.
21:51then comes
21:53the husband
21:53of the lady
21:54how furious
21:55he tells her
21:56shut up.
21:58How did he do it?
21:59Cagnoli's mother,
22:00the investigators think,
22:02to know that Giulia
22:03she had been killed
22:05in the villa,
22:06given that
22:07at 1.30 on Monday
22:09that was
22:09a piece of news
22:10absolutely secret?
22:12How did he know?
22:14that she was dead
22:15three days before?
22:16And the story
22:17of Albanian,
22:19How did it come out?
22:24The fact is
22:26that the words
22:27pronounced
22:28that night
22:29from the old lady
22:30they seem
22:31the first nucleus
22:32of the defensive theses
22:34by Matteo Cagnoni
22:36that will come
22:37perfected
22:38in the following months.
22:40Listen up
22:42what he had said
22:43Cagnoni
22:44to the investigators
22:45after his arrest.
22:47When the morning
22:48on Friday
22:49me and Giulia
22:50we went out
22:51from the villa
22:52she told me
22:53that remained
22:54a little in the garden
22:55and then he would have left
22:57gone
22:57crossing the park
22:59which is precisely
23:00right in front.
23:02I met her
23:03at 12.15
23:04under our house
23:06on Giordano Bruno Street.
23:08There I asked
23:09to come with the children
23:10and with me to Florence
23:11but she
23:12he preferred
23:13stay in Ravella.
23:15Perhaps
23:16Cagnoni had arrived
23:17in the afternoon
23:19Julia
23:20she's back
23:21in the villa
23:21maybe to see
23:24some other paintings
23:25and there
23:26she was attacked
23:27from some stray.
23:29It had already happened
23:30other times
23:31that of the Albanians
23:32climbing over the wall
23:34they had entered
23:36at home.
23:37Suggestive thesis
23:39but in likelihood
23:40the investigators say
23:42Why
23:42no one in Ravenna
23:44he had seen Giulia again
23:46after
23:47that morning
23:48had been sucked in
23:49in there
23:50from Cagnoni.
23:54Now it will be
23:55the assize court
23:56of Ravenna
23:57in autumn
23:58to establish
23:59what consistency
24:01have the arguments
24:03that Matteo Cagnoni
24:04brings to his defense.
24:07To what extent
24:08I am able
24:10Meaning what
24:10to scratch
24:11an accusatory system
24:13which seems
24:14granite.
24:16Anyway
24:17Matthew Cagnoni
24:19he decided
24:20to play
24:21on the attack.
24:22He gave up
24:24to the abbreviated rite
24:25which would have allowed him
24:27in case of conviction
24:29to benefit
24:30of the reduction
24:31of a third
24:32of the penalty.
24:34But he
24:34keep screaming
24:36his innocence.
24:38In this way
24:39but
24:39he risks life imprisonment.
24:43We'll see
24:44what will happen
24:45in October.
24:47The children
24:48when they will be
24:49bigger ones
24:49they will be done
24:51an idea
24:51of that
24:51what happened
24:52and their judgment
24:53probably
24:54will overwhelm
24:55even any type
24:56of sentence
24:57that it may be
24:58mass
24:58from this court.
25:03Poor children
25:04poor
25:05unfortunate Giulia.
25:27it seems only
25:27an innocent game
25:28everything starts
25:29from a competition
25:30of beauty
25:31for little girls
25:31on Facebook
25:32Then
25:33contact arrives
25:34on Messenger chat
25:35At the start
25:36photos are requested
25:37in normal poses
25:39Then
25:39we pass by
25:40the spitting
25:41in the hand
25:42until arriving
25:43on request
25:43much more aggressive
25:44that is, to take a shot
25:46intimate photos
25:46and send them
25:47to a mysterious individual
25:48if you refuse
25:49they are made
25:50of photomontages
25:51nudes
25:51of the girls
25:51and then
25:52they are posted
25:53on social media
25:53to torment them
25:55and ruin
25:55their lives
26:03behind this
26:04that everything is
26:05except a game
26:06there is a person
26:07dangerous
26:07who is it?
26:11he's a boy
26:1223-year-old from Fossò
26:13they identified it
26:14recently
26:15him
26:16study
26:17computer engineering
26:18in Padua
26:18in 2014
26:19he had already been arrested
26:21for detention
26:22of material
26:22child pornography
26:23and condemned
26:24at 8 months
26:26he is now in prison
26:27with the accusation
26:28of disclosure
26:28in material
26:29child pornography
26:30attempted
26:30sexual violence
26:31unauthorized access
26:32to the computer system
26:33undue acquisition
26:35of access codes
26:36defamation
26:36and private violence
26:39he faces 5 years
26:40in prison
26:43Now I'll give you the rules
26:44so you understand
26:45what to do
26:47will have to do
26:48at least 15 photos
26:49naked
26:50he will have to see you
26:50completely complete
26:51listen to me
26:52by today
26:53afternoon
26:55I am sorry
26:56I don't send
26:57nude photos
26:59if you don't do it
27:00public
27:01the photomontage
27:01and I'll ruin you
27:02only if you do them
27:04it will all end
27:04look, I'm publishing them
27:06seriously
27:07that's how they'll see them
27:08everyone
27:08the nude photos
27:09I beg you
27:10I cannot
27:11you can't escape
27:13it's useless
27:14hide
27:14I find you so much
27:15I'll ruin you
27:18his
27:19it was a persecution
27:20intolerable
27:20for some girls
27:21which they even had
27:22thought about ending it all
27:25with his insistence
27:26and his threats
27:27the computer expert
27:28he had brought them
27:29to practice
27:29self-harm
27:30but he was stopped
27:31before his pressures
27:32could bring
27:33the girls
27:34to commit extreme acts
27:37to play this sick game
27:39the young man used
27:39the university computers
27:40and those of internet points
27:42around the city
27:43so as not to be
27:44tracked down
27:45but in the end
27:45the knots have come to a head
27:47and the postal police
27:48she managed to locate it
27:50for now
27:51the confirmed victims
27:51there are 16
27:52all between 14
27:53and the 15 years
27:54but the postal police
27:56is investigating
27:56on 30 other cases
27:57his favorite victims
27:59they were girls from the south
28:00one of these little girls
28:02but
28:02she was brave
28:03and he didn't give up
28:04to threats
28:05he decided to tell
28:06everything to mom
28:07and together
28:08they reported
28:09everything
28:09to the judiciary
28:11they wanted nude photos
28:13of my daughter
28:14otherwise
28:15they would have taken
28:16a photo
28:16at random
28:17of my daughter
28:18and they would have done
28:19a photomontage
28:20and published on the web
28:21if you want all this
28:23finish
28:23you have to send us 15
28:25when sending the first
28:28we'll give you the directions
28:29for the following
28:30and I answered him
28:31but you're crazy
28:33the seducer had created
28:35various Facebook profiles
28:36to attract minors
28:37from girls for competitions
28:39tag or beautiful people
28:41the photo challenge
28:42up to already
28:42from selfies competitions
28:44to participate in these
28:45fake beauty contests
28:46photo requests
28:47they became more and more specific
28:49just the girls
28:50they refused
28:51the nightmare began
28:52the boy
28:53he threatened them
28:53and offended them
28:54they appeared
28:57other Facebook profiles
28:59in which
29:00were published
29:01some insulting phrases
29:03what scene?
29:04Enough
29:05they were heavy
29:07did they make you feel bad?
29:08not bad
29:09because in the end
29:10we never could have
29:12write to us
29:13phrases of that kind
29:15they feel
29:16omnipotent
29:18they feel
29:19unobtainable
29:23but how did he do it?
29:24to have access
29:25to their accounts
29:25to their Facebook profiles
29:27simple
29:28he sent to the girls
29:29a link
29:30to show them
29:31the photos
29:31which had modified
29:32by clicking this link
29:33the girls
29:34they found them
29:35on the login page
29:36on Facebook
29:36they inserted
29:37their credentials
29:38and so they began
29:39looking at the photos
29:40without realizing
29:41that the data entered
29:42they actually ended up
29:43directly
29:43to the computer expert
29:45which he had created
29:46a fake Facebook page
29:47this deceptive technique
29:49it's called phishing
29:50once hacked
29:51the girls' account
29:52or obtained
29:53the access codes
29:54to their Facebook profile
29:55the man was loading
29:57directly there
29:57photomontages of nudes
29:58accompanied
29:59from offensive phrases
30:00so that everyone
30:02the acquaintances
30:02and friends
30:03could see them
30:04but the worst thing
30:05is that he used
30:06stolen accounts
30:07to contact
30:07other girls
30:08and bring her to participate
30:10at the beauty contest
30:11masking himself
30:11as a minor
30:12as a mother
30:13I'm just
30:14worried
30:15for his
30:17well being
30:19psychic
30:20more than anything else
30:21and I'm scared
30:22for his safety
30:24the young man
30:25he managed to stay
30:26in the shadows for a long time
30:27thanks to his studies
30:27of computer engineering
30:29who brought it
30:30to specialize
30:30in sophisticated techniques
30:32to escape
30:32at the controls
30:33of the postal police
30:34and to hide
30:35his tracks
30:36he used foreign servants
30:37the internet
30:39the screen itself
30:40the cell phone screen
30:41the computer screen
30:42offers just that
30:43the possibility
30:44to hide
30:45to mask
30:46what is
30:47one's identity
30:48and of course
30:49their own real ones
30:50intentions
30:51especially pedophiles
30:52real and proper
30:53those who use
30:54the network
30:55just for an exchange
30:56of material
30:58child pornography
30:59and we are active
31:01a lot on this front too
31:02through a
31:03undercover activities
31:05that we carry forward
31:06with our agents
31:07so pretending to be
31:08we pedophiles
31:09there in many cases
31:11we are facing each other
31:12for example
31:12to anonymization tools
31:14of navigation
31:15let's say it's more difficult
31:17but in any case
31:18we'll get there later
31:20to identify
31:21who is behind it
31:23the connection
31:24so even an anonymous one
31:26leaves computer traces
31:27and can be discovered
31:29the important thing
31:30is not to be afraid
31:31to report
31:32but the danger
31:33there is not only
31:34for little girls
31:34teenagers
31:35the web is full
31:36of traps
31:36even for kids
31:38one of these
31:38it was discovered
31:39and recently blocked
31:40from the postal police
31:41of Turin
31:41it is a system
31:43similar to that
31:43of the beauty contest
31:45this time though
31:46in the world of football
31:47a 24 year old
31:48used profiles
31:49fake girls
31:50to lure
31:50teenagers
31:51of youth teams
31:52also in Serie A
31:53through various social networks
31:55including Facebook
31:56WhatsApp
31:56kick and telegram
31:57he contacted
31:58the young footballers
31:59pretending to be a fan
32:00an interested little girl
32:01to know them
32:02to then ask
32:03their erotic photos
32:04the boys
32:04attracted by this
32:05beautiful girl
32:06they gave in
32:06and they sent the photos
32:07these images
32:09child pornography
32:10let's remember that
32:10we are talking
32:11of minors
32:12were then used
32:13to extort more photos
32:14in exchange for silence
32:16of the seducer
32:16because he too
32:17threatened to disclose them
32:19but what was its purpose?
32:20that of procuring
32:22of the material
32:23child pornography
32:25All
32:25focused
32:26about boys
32:28teenagers
32:29some of which
32:30he knew them
32:31directly
32:32why this subject
32:33he was a sports director
32:34of a company
32:35football
32:36youth
32:36had always had
32:37gravitated in the world
32:38of football
32:39and some of his victims
32:41he knew them
32:42personally
32:42so he had them
32:43found on Facebook
32:45and then through
32:46friends of friends
32:47had extended
32:48his circle
32:49we have rebuilt
32:51more than 100 victims
32:53all in sentences for twelve-year-olds
32:54that he lured
32:55and the characteristic thing
32:57it's that he is precisely
32:57classified
32:58this material
32:59so next to the photos
33:01present on the profile
33:03then there were the photos
33:04that he had obtained
33:05through these forms
33:07of luring
33:08which was put into effect
33:09and this material
33:10child pornography
33:11it was for personal use
33:12or to sell it to others?
33:13also to spread it
33:15we tried this too
33:16actually
33:17there have been
33:18a first activity
33:19of search
33:20where we found
33:22remarkable material
33:23which has been analyzed
33:25and then it was seen
33:26that he
33:26in addition to this
33:27real profiling
33:29of the victims
33:29he also exchanged
33:31this material
33:32and not only
33:33the man
33:34always pretending
33:35little girl
33:36he proposed some reports
33:37three to his victims
33:38these meetings
33:39they never happened
33:40he never succeeded
33:41to have physical relations
33:42with the boys contacted
33:44but the network
33:45set up
33:45from the seducer
33:46it went on
33:47for over three years
33:47with more than one hundred victims
33:49the postal police
33:50she managed to locate it
33:52and to stop him
33:53we succeeded
33:54to rebuild
33:55four identities
33:56false
33:57that he used
33:58whether by resorting to
33:59on Facebook
34:00both on Telegram
34:01kick
34:02in short these were
34:03a bit of channels
34:04until arriving
34:05on WhatsApp
34:06and on Skype
34:07naturally
34:07why contacts
34:09most important
34:10were happening
34:10through the webcam
34:11the injured parties
34:13they have never been
34:14he realized
34:15actually
34:16that on the other side
34:17there was a man
34:18but they thought
34:19to a little girl
34:19so they were also
34:20well-disposed
34:21let's say
34:22towards this type
34:23of behaviors
34:25very uninhibited
34:26we noticed it
34:27doing the investigations
34:28traditional
34:29that are made
34:30for this type
34:31of crime
34:31that is, it follows
34:32a connection
34:33Internet
34:33and of course
34:36we go back up
34:36to a telephone user
34:37fixed or mobile
34:38in this case
34:40we were
34:40facilitated
34:42because we have
34:42found
34:43this subject
34:45who lived
34:45still in the family
34:46so it was
34:47easy to ask then
34:49note to the magistrate
34:50the search
34:52and from there
34:52through the discovery
34:54and the analysis
34:55of the material
34:56seized
34:56it was possible
34:57rebuild a little
34:58the probationary castle
35:02there are many
35:03high traps
35:03dangerous
35:04for the little ones
35:05one of these
35:06It's chat roulette
35:06it's a chat
35:08to meet people
35:09very popular
35:10among young people
35:10the problem
35:11it's just that we don't know
35:12who's there
35:12on the other side
35:13of the screen
35:14pedophiles
35:15in fact they pretend to be
35:16peers
35:16some boys
35:17and the girls
35:18to deceive them
35:19and get them to talk
35:19of sex
35:20to then ask
35:21also photos
35:21and hot videos
35:22but how can it be?
35:23protect the little ones
35:24from these phenomena
35:25of the web
35:26the lawyer
35:27Antonio Lascala
35:28president
35:28of the Penelope association
35:29give some advice
35:30parents must
35:32monitor
35:3324/7
35:34the activity
35:36of their children
35:37activity
35:37Obviously
35:38how to say
35:38through the internet
35:39through Facebook
35:40through cell phone
35:41they have to do it
35:42they have to do it
35:43Surely
35:44with caution
35:45and with caution
35:45why they don't have to
35:46to make it clear
35:47their children
35:47who don't trust
35:48of them
35:48but they have to do it
35:50because the risk
35:51he's tall
35:52and above all
35:53these people
35:54I'm always
35:55in business
35:56think that at the level
35:57legislative
35:57something more is needed
35:58to make this network
35:59less of a Wild West
36:00we need to operate
36:01on two fronts
36:02first of all
36:03it's not possible
36:04that a crime
36:04so serious
36:05which can lead
36:06to dangers
36:07very serious
36:08also for health
36:09of the victim
36:09be punished
36:10with a prison sentence
36:11which has been going on for a year
36:12at five years old
36:13that is, a punishment
36:14based on one year
36:14It means that if a person
36:15he has a plea bargain
36:16he makes a summary judgment
36:17you can get out of it
36:17with 4-5 months
36:18of imprisonment
36:19and this is really
36:20it is not acceptable
36:23recently
36:23it has been approved
36:24the law
36:24against cyberbullying
36:26to protect
36:26web users
36:27it's just the first step
36:35thank you all
36:38thank you all