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00:50I had the misfortune of being the last person who saw her, the last person who accompanied her.
00:56in this case in the centre of Padua
00:58and the last person who greeted her, basically an unlucky one
01:01And if Isabella you're listening to me, come home
01:08However, it is a matter of time, because on November 27th I will be of age and I will resign.
01:14I'm going to leave home and I don't know if I'll continue with my fourth year of high school or if I'll go looking for a job.
01:21That evening I didn't come home because she had to go to her boyfriend's house
01:24She said this
01:27That's what she told me, after I don't know where, now I don't know where
01:36My niece served, I was for 32 years, I was a fence, I was not a criminal
01:42A ball of paper, all soaked in blood, on the back of my brother-in-law's neck
01:47And even now, when I think about it, it just gives me the shivers.
01:52Do you know what four boys means?
01:55It's that little one who cries to me, until now she still looks for it
02:00His dad still remembers that he split him up
02:07Livia without the... this one is called Matilde and this one is called Casimir
02:12Livia, especially Livia, can't sleep without Matilde
02:18A mind-blowing situation.
02:20Because it's all thought out
02:23Studied
02:27I didn't believe, I didn't believe it would end like this for Marina
02:31No one knows what happened to my daughter, no one knows what happened to her.
02:39She found herself constantly asking for money
02:42To cover, to help certain people
02:45Mario!
02:47Oh!
02:48I want an exaggerated life
02:51I want a life like writing here
02:54When he opened that gate that's in front here
02:59Everything changed here at home
03:02It was the joy of this house
03:16He had found her in bed
03:18With a necklace on his head
03:20Dead
03:22It was April 26th two years ago
03:24And to the 118 operators
03:26Stefania Malfi's husband said this
03:29Beside her that night, in that bed
03:32He was there too
03:33It was here
03:35Was he standing next to her?
03:37The glue, yes
03:39Dead
03:45He had told a strange story
03:47That she had killed herself
03:48And that he was asleep and hadn't noticed anything.
03:51A year after that tragic night
03:53Alessandro Argenziano, Stefania's husband
03:56He will be arrested
03:57Then tried
03:58And last April 7th
04:00He was sentenced to life imprisonment in the first instance
04:02For killing her
04:07We had come to deal with Stefania's story
04:09Through his brothers
04:11They had called us to track down their other sister.
04:14Of whom they had not heard for months
04:15They were looking for her to let her know that the youngest of the family was no longer there.
04:20She and Stefania, the youngest of five siblings
04:23They had always been united
04:24And now the story of one was unexpectedly leading us into the life of the other.
04:32It's May 3rd two years ago
04:33We are in Varese
04:34Only six days have passed since Stefania's death
04:37And we're going to her house to visit her husband.
04:40Suicide is not the only hypothesis taken into consideration
04:43Since the Varese prosecutor's office has opened a murder case
04:47And he entered him in the register of suspects.
04:51Who is?
04:52Hello, good morning
04:53Are we from those who saw it?
04:54Rai 3
04:55The Rai 3 broadcast
04:58As we are investigating the disappearance
05:01Stefania's sister, his wife
05:03Yes, my wife is dead, you know
05:05Yes, I know and I also know that you have been investigated.
05:07No, but I'm no longer under investigation
05:09Gentlemen, come on up.
05:17We go up and Stefania's husband receives us at home
05:21Shall we pass?
05:22Yes, please.
05:22No, no, it's this Sunday
05:26We are ready to hear his story of that night
05:29Yes, but why can I tell you something?
05:31Can I talk to you and can we video chat?
05:34Of course, I'm not telling it.
05:37Thank you
05:37But what is it for?
05:38What's up?
05:39Is there any gain for me?
05:41Nothing
05:42The man will obviously not gain anything from the interview.
05:45But he decides to grant it anyway
05:47Can I stand here?
05:48Yes please
05:49Thank you, I'm sorry
05:50It would be a double nuisance for me
05:51No, I don't know why, absolutely.
05:55So, Stefania died on Sunday
05:57Sunday evening, around nine o'clock
06:00I was...
06:02I got tired at ten o'clock
06:04I went to the bathroom
06:05And nothing
06:07I tried to wake her up
06:09And I saw her with a pair of glue on her head
06:13First I saw the duvet above
06:18And then the stocking with the glue
06:20But instead of being like this
06:22Like the underwear
06:23Put on the head
06:25I removed glue
06:26I did the breathing
06:29She took two bottles of Rivotril
06:33Rivotril, a drug
06:35And the ambulance was delayed by 15 minutes
06:38And the girl died
06:41So I in our death
06:43I have absolutely nothing to do with it
06:45Ancient a moment before
06:48We also ate together
06:49We came to the neighbor's to drink coffee
06:52She was a loving mother and an agreement
06:54The investigators don't think so.
06:56Who are carrying on the investigations
06:58And exactly one year after that tragic night
07:00Alessandro Argenziano arrested
07:02For the murder of his wife
07:03On that occasion
07:05It was April last year
07:06Whoever saw it had guests
07:09Own managers of the Varese mobile squad
07:11Who had conducted the investigations
07:13Actually this man was arrested
07:15Carozzo in short
07:16For murder
07:17Murder of his wife
07:19The intervention of the investigators
07:21It allowed those initial suspicions to be dispelled
07:25In the end they were well founded
07:28Which they then made us believe
07:30That the initial picture provided to us by Argenziano
07:33It was the result of a sneaky plot
07:37And quite complex staging
07:39Which in reality was
07:41A well-calculated murder, even in its methods
07:46So a staging
07:48For the investigators
07:48Who immediately doubt
07:50Of the testimony of man
07:51For them that evening
07:52Things went differently
07:54From how he tells it
07:56April 26, 2015
07:58Alessandro Argenziano
08:00He would have given it to his wife
08:01A large amount of drugs
08:03And reduced to a state of semi-unconsciousness
08:05He then suffocated her
08:06Simulating suicide
08:10But let's go back to our meeting
08:12With Alessandro Argenziano
08:13Remembering that they had passed
08:15Just six days after his wife's death
08:17The investigations were still in their early stages
08:19He was a suspect
08:20And he told us this
08:22I would like to ask you a question
08:24I would like you to answer too
08:26This question
08:27Me the same day
08:29What did everyone do?
08:31I saw the body
08:32In your opinion
08:34If I was a murderer
08:35Could I see the body?
08:37Will you answer me?
08:41No, you answer me
08:42I want you to record it
08:43Is this not possible?
08:46Meaning what
08:46And why do they make me sign the no objection document?
08:49To take me to the corpse?
08:51She died of poisoning
08:53Drugs
08:53Cardiac arrest
08:55Argenziano insists
08:56On the cause of his wife's death
08:58He repeats it
08:59Drug poisoning
09:00It almost seems like he wants to convince us
09:02That there cannot be
09:03Another possibility
09:04The same day
09:05Of sage
09:06The undertaker has already come
09:07So they didn't do it
09:09Further acceptances
09:11She's dead
09:11And it's cardiac arrest
09:12Due to poisoning
09:14Drugs
09:17But to deny the man
09:18It will be the outcome
09:20Of the autopsy
09:20From which it emerges
09:21That Stefania's death
09:22That evening
09:23It was not provoked
09:24From ingested drugs
09:25Not enough
09:26To cause a death
09:27But rather
09:28From suffocation
09:30And according to the prosecution
09:32It would have been him
09:33To suffocate his wife
09:36The motive for the murder
09:38Economic
09:39The husband allegedly killed Stefania
09:41For 30,000 euros
09:43This is the value
09:44Of an insurance policy
09:45About life
09:46That Stefania had stipulated
09:47In his name
09:48And of which he
09:48He was the beneficiary
09:50Of that policy
09:51Alessandro Argenziano
09:52He had spoken to us too
09:53Stefania worked
09:55A bunch of years
09:55He tied up the post office
09:56Of post life
09:57And brothers
09:58Even now that she's dead
09:59They had the courage
10:01To go and tell my father
10:02That the money
10:03That my wife
10:04Of post life
10:04He has bound
10:05For 30,000 years
10:06That in case of death
10:07He wanted to leave himself to me
10:09AND
10:12He put it in my name
10:13In case of death
10:14So they will go to me
10:15Surely
10:16Because there is the cause
10:18But the brothers
10:19They saw her
10:20That I only took it
10:21That sooner or later
10:23I would have killed her
10:24That sooner or later
10:24I would have hurt him
10:26To take all the inheritances
10:27But as I repeat
10:29In this story
10:29I have nothing to do with it
10:30On the topic of money
10:32Argentian
10:33He will come back often
10:34During the meeting with us
10:35Me and her
10:36We had the bill
10:36As registered
10:37So if we didn't have it
10:39The account as registered
10:40We didn't have it
10:41And now I'll give you proof
10:43If you want to see it
10:44Account as registered
10:45It means that pensions
10:47They will be put
10:47On the same account
10:49The last pourability
10:51This month
10:51I'll still take it
10:52And then that's it
10:54And the money
10:55Alessandro Argenziano
10:57He still speaks to us
10:57This time about it
10:59Of his wife's funeral
11:00It's me
11:01That I do the shopping
11:01Of the funeral
11:02The 7 thousand euros
11:04I pay them with money
11:04By Stefania
11:05But I'm doing it for Stefania
11:07I don't do it for the brothers
11:10Okay?
11:12Last of five brothers
11:13Stefania grows up in Vercelli
11:15In a problematic context
11:16When he meets Alessandro
11:18Only eight months
11:19Before his death
11:20At 28 years old
11:21He thinks he found it
11:22The right man
11:23From which to receive
11:23Affection and serenity
11:25That she has always missed
11:26The two
11:27They get married three months later
11:28Their meeting
11:29And they come to live
11:30In this apartment
11:31And if I didn't want to
11:32Stefania's Penalty
11:33These are the two things
11:34That she attacked
11:36I died right now
11:37I left it there as a souvenir
11:39His photo too
11:40If you really did it I
11:42His photo with his father
11:43That's his father
11:44That's her
11:45These things here
11:46She attacked them
11:47I will never give them away
11:49Even that little doll
11:50He put it there
11:50My wife
11:51And it stays there forever
11:53But not because I want to
11:55This necklace here
11:56That clock
11:56That little doll there
11:57And it's all Stefania's stuff
11:59For me it's always here
12:03Alessandro Argenziano
12:04During the investigations
12:05It will also be subjected
12:06To an expert opinion
12:07Ordered by the judge
12:08For preliminary investigations
12:09To evaluate
12:10If his psychological condition
12:12It is compatible with prison
12:13And from the expertise
12:14It will emerge among other things
12:16That man is capable
12:17To understand and to want
12:18I'll show you
12:20This is all Stefania's stuff
12:21That will never be touched
12:23In the good that I wanted for him
12:25You can see
12:27That I loved Stefania
12:28This stuff was over
12:30All in the battoniera
12:31And I put them on display
12:33As a reminder
12:34You can also come to the room
12:36It's not a problem
12:36It's a little open
12:37To make it seen
12:38These are his clothes
12:40That from one day
12:41It was a charge
12:42It has a strange effect on us
12:43Enter this room
12:44And see the bed
12:45Where only six days before
12:47Stefania was found dead
12:49So Stefania was in bed
12:51When
12:52It was here
12:55He was standing next to her
12:56Regluing yes
12:57Dead
12:58She sleeps nothing in bed
13:01I declare this
13:01Because every now and then
13:02We also did
13:04Sexual intercourse
13:05At night
13:06As well as that day
13:07We had also done
13:08Sexual intercourse
13:10Another very serious accusation
13:12Towards Alessandro
13:13Argentian
13:13It is that of mistreatment
13:15To support that Stefania
13:17She was a victim of violence
13:18From the husband's side
13:19It had been just
13:20The woman's family
13:21She called crying
13:23I still remember
13:23Why do I always
13:25In the mind
13:25The last time I heard from her
13:26Who was crying
13:28AND
13:29The first sentence he said
13:30Crying
13:31You sued him
13:32You sued him
13:33And I said
13:34Stefania
13:35And I said
13:36Only you can tell the truth
13:37Stefania
13:38You have to leave it
13:39Only you are the truth
13:40And she was crying
13:41He told me
13:42Yes that's fine
13:47So Stefania
13:49He basically told her
13:50That it was him
13:51To procure them
13:52This
13:53I repeated it
13:54Stefania
13:55Only you know the truth
13:56Stefania leave him
13:57You know he beats you
13:59You know he hurts you
14:00You have to leave it
14:01And she was crying
14:02He told me
14:03Yes that's fine
14:04Yes that's fine
14:05But she beat Stefania
14:06I never hit her
14:08This story
14:08He invented it for his brother
14:09If Stefania were here
14:11You could tell him
14:12Rather Stefania
14:14He was hitting me
14:14She was very violent
14:15When I wasn't listening to him
14:16This is a sign
14:17What Stefania
14:18He made me
14:18A while ago
14:20So
14:21You can't even look
14:22So she
14:23Hands on Stefania
14:25He didn't put them on
14:26Some time
14:27It was a slap in the face
14:27When she hit me she hit me
14:29But like this
14:30To tell him enough
14:32But it never went
14:33In the hospital
14:33For his beatings
14:35This has never happened
14:36You can also go
14:37To do the checks
14:38On the contrary
14:39Every time
14:40That you go to the hospital
14:41That he was sick
14:42I was always there for you
14:44And Stefania in the hospital
14:46He used to go there often
14:47The last time
14:48Ten days before
14:49Of his death
14:50With head injuries
14:51Caused by blows
14:52Inflicted with a hammer
14:54They say that those hammer blows
14:56I was given to him
14:56But she had it
14:57These hammer blows
14:58Stefania in the lead
14:59But he had two hits
15:01Two things like that
15:02But he didn't have any blood.
15:04Nor anything
15:04And from what?
15:05They had been given
15:06It was seen
15:07The Hammer
15:07That I took them off
15:09I prevented his suicide
15:10And that day
15:11So Stefania
15:11It would have been given
15:12The hammer blows
15:13Behind the head
15:15I took it away from him
15:16He drank the bleach
15:18Already at night
15:18I had caught her
15:19I had taken it away from him
15:20Of that
15:21I did it
15:21Take to hospital
15:23Several times
15:23I had brought Stefania
15:25And had ever
15:25Had she ever taken
15:26Hammer hit in the head
15:27No never
15:28Only lately
15:29Why the sister
15:30He had reported me
15:32To say
15:33That I
15:34I had it
15:36Strangled
15:36All things
15:37False
15:38And forgery
15:40Alessandro Argenziano
15:42It will never come
15:43Reported by Stefania
15:44But the violence
15:45Physical and psychological
15:46Of which it was suspected
15:47If he were a victim
15:48The woman
15:48They will be widely
15:49Documented
15:50And make sure
15:51During the process
15:52Thanks to the statements
15:53Of numerous witnesses
15:56Alessandro Argenziano
15:57He is a violent man
15:58Who beats his wife
16:00He insults her
16:00He pushes her away
16:01From family members
16:02From friends
16:03Also preventing them
16:04With threats
16:04To see them
16:05The lack of cell phone
16:06And the wallet
16:07He submits it
16:08To daily harassment
16:09Subjugating her
16:10Completely
16:11To his wishes
16:12It takes over
16:13Really
16:14Of the management
16:14Healthcare and pharmacology
16:16Of the woman
16:16Which is reduced
16:17In a state
16:18Of psychological subjection
16:19Such
16:20To make it impossible for her
16:21React
16:23The fragile character
16:25And Stefania's gentle
16:26They made it
16:27Prey
16:27And victim
16:28Of the husband
16:29But she
16:30He didn't kill her
16:31Stefania
16:31No?
16:32But in your opinion
16:33No
16:35Answer
16:35Given that
16:37You ask me a question
16:38Of the kind
16:39In your opinion
16:40After a week
16:42That she died
16:42I wasn't already
16:43At least in custody
16:44Caudelar
16:45I was not under arrest
16:48Alexander
16:49Argentian
16:50He is arrested
16:51April 26th
16:51From 2016
16:52Exactly one year ago
16:53From death
16:54By Stefania
16:56The process
16:57It takes place
16:58In the assize court
16:59In Varese
16:59Him
17:00He is accused
17:01For the crimes
17:01Of premeditated murder
17:03And mistreatment
17:04The accusation
17:05He asks for life imprisonment
17:06The defense
17:07Of the man
17:08Which declares itself
17:08Innocent
17:09The acquittal
17:11Last April 7th
17:12The court issues
17:13His sentence
17:14And it's life imprisonment
17:15For Alessandro
17:16Argentian
17:16Found guilty
17:18Beyond
17:19Of all reasonable
17:20Doubt
17:20Of the murder
17:21Premeditated
17:22Of the wife
17:22Stefania Amalfi
17:24Why her?
17:25The money
17:26They weren't worth it to him
17:26He didn't want love for her
17:27And he had found it
17:39All
17:40And he had to give
17:41Life imprisonment
17:42To everyone
17:43Because also
17:44A Cacob
17:45He did
17:46Moreover
17:46And it was
17:47In the middle of
17:48Me too
17:48And the circle
17:49Because after
17:51Three hours
17:52Four
17:53Which occupies
17:53My flower
17:54And if
17:55He put
17:55The little jackets
17:56And go and do it
17:57The tour
17:57From the center
17:58Thirty years
17:59There are not a few of them
18:00Yes, yes
18:01But
18:01What's the matter with it?
18:02AND
18:02What's the matter with it?
18:05Me
18:05I was told
18:06That I will be dead
18:07But
18:08I'm coming
18:09Grab your legs
18:11Here
18:11What from
18:12AND
18:12AND
18:13Good conduct
18:14Why
18:15You are not right
18:16Why
18:17It kept me busy
18:18My flower
18:18And I have a cough
18:19At home
18:20And after
18:21Three hours
18:21It kept me busy
18:22Not at all
18:23Why
18:24I knew myself
18:25That wasn't there
18:26Nothing
18:26Nothing
18:27Alone
18:28Envy
18:29And I hate
18:30AND
18:41At a year and a half
18:43Since the disappearance
18:44By Isabella
18:4490
18:45After a complex
18:46Investigation
18:47Investigative
18:47In the end
18:48Of a process
18:49Celebrated
18:49With abbreviated rite
18:50It has arrived
18:51The sentence
18:52It was them
18:54To kill Isabella
18:55Freddi Sorgato
18:57Deborah Sorgato
18:58And Manuela Cacco
18:59All three
19:00In competition
19:01They have coldly
19:02Premeditated
19:03Completed
19:04The murder
19:05And destroyed
19:06The body
19:06By Isabella
19:08The penalty
19:09For the brothers
19:09Sorgato
19:10He is 30 years old
19:11Of imprisonment
19:1216 years old
19:13And 10 months
19:13For Manuela Cacco
19:14Condemned
19:16Even for stalking
19:17And the simulation
19:18Of crime
19:18I hope
19:20Only that
19:20In these 30 years
19:22Let them have time
19:23To reflect
19:25And realize
19:26Of that
19:26What they committed
19:27And of the sufferings
19:28What they created
19:29To everyone
19:30Life imprisonment
19:31We took it
19:32Life imprisonment
19:34We took it
19:35Because certainly
19:37Isabella
19:38He is no longer among us
19:39Forever
19:42It's a sentence
19:43Who does justice
19:44But what does it leave?
19:45Even the bitter one
19:46In the mouth
19:46Especially because
19:47No one has yet
19:48Explained
19:49Where was it placed?
19:50Isabella's body
19:53The last one
19:54Desperate appeal
19:54To speak
19:55It was addressed
19:56To the defendants
19:57In the classroom
19:57Before the verdict
19:58If he were the judge
20:00But unfortunately
20:01I'm not a judge
20:02But I would do it to him
20:03Even a discount
20:04Of pain
20:04If I
20:06They would have it found
20:08The body
20:08There are these three questions
20:10Open
20:10Which have been
20:11Precisely
20:13Urged
20:14Why was it
20:15Isabella killed
20:16Who started it?
20:17The decision
20:18Practically
20:19To kill Isabella
20:20And above all
20:20Where is the body
20:21By Isabella
20:24While the defendants
20:25Like three statues
20:26Of ice
20:27They are reported
20:28In prison
20:28Through a passage
20:29Internal
20:30For shelter
20:31Some cameras
20:31Their lawyers
20:33They earn
20:33Quickly
20:34The exit
20:35I want to make comments
20:36I wish you good work
20:38To everyone
20:38Thank you
20:38Good evening
20:39It's not the prison
20:41But
20:41The murder
20:42Prometheus
20:43It remains
20:44For us
20:45It's a first step
20:46Stop
20:48The lawyers
20:49Of exorcised
20:50They don't release
20:51Statements
20:51The public prosecutor
20:53Giorgio Falcone
20:54Which led
20:54The investigation
20:55And he supported
20:56The reasons
20:56Of the prosecution
20:57He prefers
20:58Do not comment
20:59Its reconstruction
21:00It has been shared
21:01In full
21:02From the judge
21:02Thecla
21:03Caesar
21:03Confirmed
21:04All the items
21:05Indictment
21:05Even if the penalty
21:06Inflicted
21:07And it arose
21:08It is inferior
21:08To that one
21:09What he had asked for
21:10Him
21:10At the end
21:11Of a very long one
21:12Indictment
21:12Golden
21:13Between the days
21:14With regard to
21:15Freddi Sorgato
21:16And Deborah Sorgato
21:17It was asked
21:18Life imprisonment
21:19With regard to
21:20Instead
21:21Excuse me
21:22Caco Manuela
21:23The request
21:25Was
21:25For the murder
21:2615 years old
21:27And 8 months
21:28As for what concerns
21:29Stalking
21:30For the final
21:31One year
21:31So overall
21:32I'm 16 years old
21:33And 8 months
21:34Everyone has been
21:35Recognized
21:36Guilty
21:36Of everything
21:37In the same
21:39With the modalities
21:40Of the reconstructed actions
21:42From the public prosecutor
21:43So with premeditation
21:44With the suppression
21:47Of the corpse
21:49It will take 90 days
21:51To know
21:52The reasons
21:53Which explain
21:53Why
21:54You have arisen
21:55She was spared
21:56The sentence
21:57To life imprisonment
21:57Condemnation
21:59Which was expected
22:00Above all
22:00From mom
22:01By Isabella
22:01The second victim
22:03Of this murder
22:04But
22:05Let's hope so
22:05So
22:06I did it
22:07Even to triboare
22:08And after
22:08And after
22:10He wanted to tie up
22:11With the spavolo
22:11Think about it
22:13Think about it
22:14The flowers
22:17The flowers
22:19The flowers
22:20The flowers
22:22How many murderers
22:23Who are you
22:24And I always have
22:25Finger
22:25Since what day?
22:26What what
22:27What happened?
22:29I always have
22:30Finger
22:30The three assassins
22:32The three assassins
22:33The three assassins
22:33Since what day?
22:35What happened?
22:38The pain
22:39Still a lot
22:40And it is read
22:41On the faces
22:41Whose Isabella
22:42He loved her
22:43And if he remembers it
22:44Still
22:44How it was
22:45Until January 15th
22:46From a year ago
22:47Before it all happened
22:50That night
22:51For Isabella
22:52Everything ends
22:53As it begins
22:54A difficult one
22:55Detective work
22:57Which brought
22:57At the verdict
22:58Today's
23:00In 11 months
23:01Of investigations
23:02Almost everything
23:03What is
23:03Happened
23:04Was
23:05Rebuilt
23:05Minute
23:06After a minute
23:07Using
23:08All means
23:09Available
23:10Cell phones
23:11Telephone cells
23:12Wiretaps
23:13Surveillance cameras
23:15Electronic gates
23:16GPS
23:17Nevertheless
23:18Perhaps
23:18All this technology
23:20It wouldn't have been enough
23:21If everything
23:22If he hadn't left
23:23From intuition
23:24Of an investigator
23:25The former boss
23:26Of the mobile
23:26From Padua
23:27George Di Munno
23:28That January 16th
23:29It is found in the hands
23:31A missing person report
23:32This morning
23:34Around 11am
23:36I was contacted
23:37By telephone
23:38From my elderly mother
23:40That my sister
23:40Ninety Isabella
23:42It was missing in their home
23:43Last night
23:45It's not certain
23:46That she was leaving home
23:48And leave alone
23:49Our elderly mother
23:50Given the emotional relationship
23:52What binds them
23:53When I read
23:54What Isabella
23:55She's a woman
23:5655 years old
23:57Who lives
23:58With his mother
23:59Which has a strong bond
24:01With mom
24:02Who takes care of daily
24:06It seems very strange to me
24:07May he decide
24:09Out of the blue
24:10To change your life
24:11I'm going
24:11From the Deputy Prosecutor Falcone
24:14With which
24:15We share
24:16Right from the start
24:17An investigative hypothesis
24:20Much more serious
24:21Compared to a
24:22Simple removal
24:23A voluntary disappearance
24:26So
24:27She is Isabella's mother
24:28Ophelia
24:29His life link
24:30With her daughter
24:30To put it immediately
24:32On alert
24:32George Di Munno
24:33It's the first piece
24:35Of this investigation
24:36To which is added
24:37Another one right away
24:39An interview
24:40That the sorghum
24:41Cold
24:42Release
24:42Your broadcast
24:43Which was seen
24:44There are two steps
24:46The first one concerns
24:47A statement
24:49Made by
24:50Freddi Sorgato
24:51And that's it
24:52Relative to the consideration
24:54That he was
24:55An unlucky man
24:56And that hit home.
24:58In particular
24:58The public prosecutor
25:00I had bad luck
25:01Of being the last person
25:02Who saw her
25:03The last person
25:04Who accompanied her
25:05In this case
25:06In the center of Padua
25:07And the last person
25:08Who greeted her
25:09Practically
25:10An unfortunate one
25:11Then there is the final part
25:12That of the appeal
25:13Done
25:15From the Freddi sorghum
25:16At the
25:17Isabella
25:19And at that moment
25:20In my opinion
25:21The Freddi
25:22He betrays himself
25:23From a
25:25Smile
25:26Mocking
25:26What comes to him?
25:28A moment later
25:29To that statement
25:30And if Isabella
25:31Are you listening to me?
25:32Come back home
25:33The interview with Freddi
25:36It happens
25:36Five days
25:37After the disappearance
25:38By Isabella
25:38Freddi wants to make people believe
25:40Of being worried
25:41For the woman
25:42But he can't do it
25:43Heard at the police station
25:44Underline
25:45That his movements
25:46Of that night
25:47They are certified
25:48From GPS
25:49Of his car
25:50It's his alibi
25:52The person
25:53Cold spring water
25:53It was consistent
25:54Even on the basis
25:55To the investigations
25:56That we had carried out
25:57Relatively
25:58To the GPS track
25:59Be it as it may
26:01Route traveled
26:02Both as times
26:03He had a consistency
26:04Logical and chronological
26:06Undoubtedly
26:07Cold therefore
26:08It's quiet
26:09He provided investigators with
26:10The proof that he is saying
26:11The real one
26:12He left Isabella
26:14In Insurrection Square
26:15In Padua
26:16Around the moon at night
26:18And how was Isabella dressed?
26:20He had a white jacket
26:21In particular
26:23Let's focus our attention
26:25On what then became
26:27Famous images
26:29Those of the Lords' Squares
26:30In which this woman is seen
26:32With the white jacket
26:33Which crosses the square
26:34I am convinced
26:36Right from the start
26:37That that woman
26:38It was absolutely not
26:39Isabella Noventa
26:40Meanwhile, for a physical question
26:42Of its own characteristics
26:44But I convince myself
26:46Further
26:46For the fact
26:47That that person
26:49It's not a person
26:50Who knows Padua well
26:51Because analyzing well
26:53The movements
26:54Reproduced in the image
26:55I sense that
26:56At some point
26:58He can't find it
26:59It gets lost
27:00He can't find it
27:01The right path
27:02To return
27:03At the predetermined point
27:04Of the meeting
27:07Brother Paul
27:08Mother Ophelia
27:09The ex-husband
27:10The cousin
27:11They all agree
27:12In considering
27:13That it can't be her
27:14Isabella walks
27:16In another way
27:17He would never have pulled
27:18On the hood
27:19He didn't have a bag
27:20And then
27:21What was he doing there?
27:22Isabella?
27:24Meanwhile
27:25The picture is taking shape
27:27Between Isabella and Freddy
27:28For a year and a half
27:29A story goes on
27:30Very tormented
27:31The two took each other
27:33And left several times
27:34And then
27:34There is another woman
27:35Manuela Cacco
27:36Which has a history
27:37Parallel with Freddy
27:39Who is very jealous
27:40By Isabella
27:41It also emerges
27:42That a year before
27:43Isabella presented
27:44As many as six complaints
27:45For stalking
27:46Where he declares
27:47To fear
27:48For your own safety
27:49The investigations
27:50They never ended
27:52But in that file
27:53It appears right there
27:54The name of Manuela Cacco
27:55Some messages
27:57And phone calls
27:57They started from a registered number
27:59To her
27:59But she
28:00At the time questioned
28:01He declared
28:02That phone
28:03It had been stolen from her
28:04Why should I?
28:06Do all these things
28:07Why exactly?
28:08I didn't care
28:09Absolutely nothing at all
28:10Not
28:10I didn't see any
28:12The connection
28:13The utility
28:14I didn't see anything about it.
28:17So
28:17Freddy
28:18Manuela
28:19And who else?
28:19He could have wanted
28:20Isabella's Evil
28:21It emerges
28:22That Freddy's sister
28:23Deborah
28:24He never could stand Isabella
28:26Freddy cried several times
28:28For her on his shoulder
28:29Deborah
28:30She also interfered
28:31Heavily among themselves
28:32Calling Paul
28:34Isabella's brother
28:35That he didn't know
28:36He threatened me
28:37He threatened
28:38My family
28:38Saying that my sister
28:40She has to stay away
28:41From Freddy
28:42Because it makes him suffer
28:45In short
28:45Between the two women
28:46There's no love lost
28:47While instead
28:48There seems to be
28:49A solid friendship
28:50Between Deborah
28:51And Manuela
28:52The sister would have preferred you
28:55Probably yes
28:56Maybe also because
28:56There was a friendship
28:58Long-standing
28:58So
29:00With us
29:01There was immediately
29:02A feeling
29:02And so
29:04The speech
29:05It was very
29:06Very different
29:08Then people
29:09One to keep an eye on
29:10There are three
29:10Investigators think
29:12And in fact
29:12In the following days
29:14On the disappearance
29:14The three
29:15They are intercepted
29:16While they exchange
29:17Numerous messages
29:18And phone calls
29:19They meet at night
29:21Among them are registered
29:22Even nervousness
29:23And tensions
29:24Above all
29:25The two brothers
29:26They are very careful
29:27To keep under control
29:28Manuela
29:29That they know how to be
29:30The weak link
29:31Of the chain
29:32There is a moment
29:34In which
29:35We record
29:37An emotional breakdown
29:38Della Cacco
29:39Basically
29:40We are talking about
29:41Some hysterical crying
29:43Which characterized
29:44The conversation
29:45Della Cacco
29:46And Manuela
29:46When he was relating
29:47Especially to Freddi
29:48And so
29:49I made up my mind
29:51Obviously
29:52In agreement
29:52With the public prosecutor
29:54To accompany back
29:55The Cacco
29:55Manuela
29:56In the office
29:56The Flying Squad
29:57To hear her again
29:59On the evening of February 16th
30:01Suddenly
30:02Manuela
30:02He doesn't answer anymore
30:03On the phone
30:04I sorghum
30:05They can't find it
30:05And they get agitated
30:06To the point that
30:07Cold
30:07The search
30:08For Padua
30:09Until he finds out
30:10His car
30:11Parked
30:11Nearby
30:12From the police headquarters
30:13At that point
30:14Write a message
30:15Dry
30:15To the sister
30:16It's from them
30:17Deborah asks
30:18At the police station
30:19And he answers
30:20Yes
30:20Manuela Cacco
30:21At that moment
30:22She's sitting
30:23In the office
30:23By Giorgio
30:24By Munno
30:25We are talking
30:26First of all
30:27Of passion
30:28Della Cacco
30:29Manuela
30:29What is the dance
30:30Latin American
30:31And so
30:32Of the environment
30:34Of the dance
30:34Of the acquaintances
30:36Of the schools
30:37Then after
30:38Obviously
30:38We went down
30:39In a
30:40In topics
30:41More
30:42Intimates
30:43More personal
30:44The fact
30:44What would it be?
30:45Become
30:46There shortly
30:47Grandmother
30:47It's time
30:48Emotionally
30:49More intense
30:50And it's time
30:51In which I decide
30:52To address
30:54The monitor
30:54From my computer
30:55Towards the Cacco
30:56Manuela
30:57And sliding
30:59The images
31:00Of the Lords' Square
31:01When you see
31:02Precisely the woman
31:03What is he wearing?
31:04A white jacket
31:05Which crosses
31:05The same square
31:06I ask you
31:08What was done
31:09In the Lords' Square
31:10With that white jacket
31:11Moving on from a conversation
31:13So quiet
31:14At a lunge
31:15So determined
31:16I noticed
31:18A real disturbance
31:19And then an emotional reaction
31:21From
31:22Of crying
31:25It's the crucial moment
31:27Following which
31:28She decides
31:29From
31:29To confess
31:30So of
31:31Describe in detail
31:33Everything that had happened
31:34The dynamics
31:35Of the staging
31:36What she had been told
31:37To do
31:38From Sorgato Freddy
31:39And from
31:39From Deborah
31:40It had arisen
31:41And that is essentially
31:43The necessity
31:44That the same
31:45He wore
31:46The jacket
31:47That he crossed
31:48Dante Street
31:50Lords' Square
31:51That somehow
31:52Induced
31:53In error
31:54And it was part
31:55Of their plan
31:56The investigators
31:57At the moment when
31:58The same ones
32:00They had tried
32:02In the reconstruction
32:03About what happened
32:06That's it
32:07The moment when
32:07The trio's plan
32:09It collapses
32:09With that mission
32:11Emanuela Cacqua
32:11Open the crack
32:12What will become
32:13For them
32:14A chasm
32:15At that point
32:16Freddy and Deborah
32:17They are brought
32:18At the police station
32:19The two women
32:20They are put
32:20In comparison
32:21It was a comparison
32:22Characterized
32:23From great tension
32:25But on the other hand
32:26All this
32:26It's normal
32:28It's physiological
32:29I noticed
32:31A sorgato Deborah
32:33Very cold
32:35And apparently
32:36Detached
32:37Regarding the topic
32:39Of the comparison
32:40At some point
32:40He states
32:41Verbatim
32:43For me
32:43This one is bad
32:44It's cold
32:45He put
32:46He was arrested
32:47He has a reaction
32:49Surprising
32:50Strangely enough
32:51Thank you
32:52The investigators
32:54Present
32:54At that moment
32:55Probably
32:56It's an emotional reaction
32:57This is
32:58My interpretation
32:59Could be
33:00Even the fact
33:00That at that moment
33:03Psychologically
33:04It frees itself of a burden
33:06How did it end?
33:07That night
33:08We know it
33:09The sorghum
33:10And the poop
33:10They are brought
33:11In handcuffs
33:12Under arrest
33:13In prison
33:14From which
33:14They never came out again
33:19Two days later
33:20During the interrogation
33:21As a guarantee
33:22Manuela confirms
33:23What has been said
33:24And the two brothers
33:26They make use of
33:26Of the faculty
33:27Not to answer
33:28But Freddy
33:29Spontaneously
33:30He leans against it
33:31All responsibility
33:32With history
33:33From the erotic game
33:34He didn't want to
33:36But it happened
33:37And he panicked.
33:38He threw away
33:39Isabella's body
33:40In the Brenta
33:40Freddy Sorgato
33:42He made it
33:43Spontaneous declarations
33:44He did
33:46He made important
33:47Admissions
33:48Of responsibility
33:49About death
33:50By Isabella
33:5290
33:54At that moment
33:55Credit is given
33:56At confession
33:57By Freddy
33:57There is still
33:58Hope
33:59To find Isabella
34:00And in fact
34:01Immediately
34:02The same day
34:02PM Falcone
34:04Condimunno
34:05And the men
34:05Of the mobile
34:06From Padua
34:06They go
34:07Together with Freddy
34:08On the banks
34:09Of the river
34:09The research
34:10They were really
34:11Many
34:13Which they have committed
34:14Many men
34:15Of the various departments
34:16And what do they have?
34:18Allowed
34:19To scout
34:19The river
34:20Brenta
34:21In long
34:21In wide
34:22This is what I think about
34:23We are a fact
34:24Objective
34:25And they demonstrate
34:26Which in reality
34:27The body
34:28Of the poor
34:29Isabella
34:29There is never
34:30Finished
34:30In that river
34:32We know it
34:34By Isabella
34:35In the Brenta
34:35Not found
34:36Nothing
34:37And indeed
34:38The research
34:38They end
34:39In tragedy
34:40Why the sub
34:40Of the police
34:41Rosary
34:41Sanarico
34:42He dies sucked in
34:43From the locks
34:44Of the river
34:44It's a hard blow
34:46For those who investigate
34:47Falcon
34:47He remembered it
34:48In the classroom
34:49The Inspector
34:49By Munno
34:50He remembers it
34:51Together with us
34:51While his eyes
34:53They betray emotion
34:54It's a moment
34:56Dramatic
34:59Very painful
35:03A loss
35:07It's inconceivable
35:09Another important one
35:11Turning point
35:12This investigation
35:12It is printed
35:13Once again
35:14From Cacco
35:15February 25th
35:16When in prison
35:17Tells
35:18To PM Falcone
35:19And to the commander
35:20By Munno
35:20What Isabella
35:21She was killed
35:22From Deborah
35:23According to the story
35:25Della Cacco
35:27It is obviously
35:28A story
35:29Derelict
35:29The murder
35:31It is committed
35:32In presence
35:33Of both
35:34The brothers
35:35Sorgato
35:36Materially
35:37But
35:37From Deborah
35:38Sorgato
35:39By means of
35:40The use
35:40Of a bribe
35:41With which
35:43It would have hit
35:43In the lead
35:45The poor
35:45Ninety
35:46Isabella
35:46Before you wrap it up
35:48In a bag
35:49In order
35:49To avoid
35:50The shedding
35:51Of blood
35:52This is it
35:53The reconstruction
35:54Official
35:55Of the crime
35:55By Isabella
35:56That
35:56Accredited
35:57From the investigators
35:58And welcomed
35:59From the judge
36:00Which has issued
36:00The sentence
36:02On premeditation
36:03They play
36:04A hard battle
36:05In the classroom
36:05The lawyers
36:06Of the defense
36:06They support
36:07That there wouldn't be
36:08It was a real
36:08Motive
36:09For investigators
36:10Instead
36:11The motive
36:11There is
36:12And it's very clear
36:13I can say
36:14The motive
36:14That we have
36:15Confirmed
36:16Afterwards
36:16To a complex
36:17Delicate
36:18Long
36:19Intense
36:19Activity
36:19Of investigation
36:20And it's a motive
36:22Which is placed
36:22Essentially
36:23On feelings
36:24More negatives
36:25And vulgar
36:26That a human being
36:28May I try
36:28I am referring to
36:29To the hatred felt
36:31From Deborah
36:32In comparisons
36:33Of poor Isabella
36:34Mixed
36:35Mixed
36:35Of strong jealousy
36:37By Manuela Cacco
36:38In comparisons
36:39Of the poor victim
36:40And Freddy
36:41What motive?
36:43Freddy
36:44I can tell you
36:47He was obsessed
36:49From the
36:52From the report
36:53With Isabella
36:54The obsession
36:56And jealousy
36:57They brought
36:58All three
36:59The defendants
36:59To unite
37:01Against Isabella
37:02Up to the point
37:03To plan
37:04And carry it out
37:05This crime
37:06Absurd
37:06In this year and a half
37:08That's over
37:09With their condemnation
37:10There have been no
37:11On their part
37:12Admissions
37:13No apologies
37:14And no one
37:15He had mercy
37:15To give back
37:16Isabella's body
37:17To that mother
37:18That in tears
37:19He addressed
37:20They
37:20Many appeals
37:21And that's it
37:22I haven't seen myself anymore
37:23I saw her more often
37:25Most viewed
37:28Other than
37:30It ends like this
37:32The sad story
37:33By Isabella Noventa
37:34With this epilogue
37:35Where everyone loses
37:37Freddy
37:38That behind bars
37:39He will remember
37:40His beautiful life
37:41Made of women
37:41Sports and dances
37:43South Americans
37:43Deborah
37:44That he won't be able to
37:45Taking care of your child
37:46Manuela Cacco
37:47That he will not see
37:48Grow
37:49His grandchildren
37:49And despite the conviction
37:51They forgive their family members
37:53By Isabella
37:53That they won't see her again
37:55More to come back
37:55In this house
37:56Where everything remained
37:57Intact
37:58Like when she was there
37:59Frozen
38:00In an instant
38:01Timeless
38:02Isabella's Last