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Sono state ritrovate e stanno bene le due ragazzine che si erano allontanate da una comunità educativa. La Procura ha fermato la mamma, il suo compagno e il nonno per sequestro di persona. Una quarta indagata è la lontana parente che ospitava le due ragazze. E ora che succede? Si tornerà poi sulla morte della giudice Francesca Ercolini, trovata senza vita una mattina di quasi quattro anni fa nella sua casa. Da quel giorno la mamma, che non ha mai creduto al suicidio, lotta per sapere che cosa sia accaduto. "La sera eravamo insieme, stava bene, aveva mille impegni. Non punto il dito contro nessuno, ma devo sapere che cosa è successo quella notte e la mattina...", dice all'inviata di "Chi l'ha visto?". Infine, il caso di mamma e figlia morte avvelenate a Pietracatella. La Procura ha chiesto il supporto di un team tedesco esperto in bioterrorismo, che esaminerà tutti gli alimenti sequestrati e i prelievi fatti alle vittime, oltre che al padre e alla sorella quando furono visitati. Bisogna capire come e chi abbia portato la ricina in quella casa. Come sempre, spazio agli appelli, alle richieste di aiuto e alle segnalazioni dei telespettatori su persone in difficoltà.  #Chilhavisto #Chilhavintage

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00:00:02If he hadn't disappeared he would have brought the saint, but he disappeared.

00:00:07So what happened to Giacomo Viglione with our correspondent Fabrizio Franceschelli and Melania Straffi?

00:00:21Today in Quadri we celebrate the feast of Sant'Emilio and if Giacomino were here, that's what everyone calls him in

00:00:27village,

00:00:27he would certainly be in the front row among the bearers of the statue of the saint.

00:00:32He is very religious and takes part in community rites.

00:00:37Giacomino, if he were among us, would be among those who would carry the saint.

00:00:43Would he have brought the saint?

00:00:45He would have brought the saint, yes. As usual, when there are demonstrations, he is always present.

00:00:50But Giacomino isn't here today and has been missing for over three weeks. What happened?

00:00:57On the morning of Friday, May 29, he was awakened by a phone call from his partner,

00:01:02who works for an elderly woman in Quadri.

00:01:05All morning I call him. How are you? Are you up? Did you have breakfast? Where are you going? What's your plan?

00:01:11'And?

00:01:12And that day he told him that he has to go to the Dog and then he finds someone who has to go

00:01:18there at the old man's house to find the dead man.

00:01:20Was it a family member he was very close to?

00:01:22Yes, he said it's a seal.

00:01:25Then Giacomino announces to her that he will have to go to Lanciano in the morning to visit a deceased relative.

00:01:31Then, around 8 in the morning, the man leaves the house and, as usual, goes to Marcellino's bar,

00:01:37right in front of his house.

00:01:39But he doesn't have breakfast, he doesn't drink coffee. He only stops for a game of eight.

00:01:44Giacomino stopped by here to play a betting slip.

00:01:47A scratch card? What?

00:01:49No, he was playing the lottery. You have some of his numbers.

00:01:52A live lot?

00:01:53A live lottery, yes. A live lottery. The numbers are usually played with the numbers of grandparents, of

00:01:58fathers, mothers.

00:02:00So they were playing. Then he didn't come over to play and we went on as usual.

00:02:03Didn't he win that morning?

00:02:04I don't know, I don't know. Of course, we've lost something. For now.

00:02:11After the eight-ball game, Giacomino returns home. And from there he sends his last message to Ophelia, to

00:02:18his companion.

00:02:19But what message did he send her?

00:02:21You say I love you so much. And then I even reply with little kisses, like that. I said it too.

00:02:28with you.

00:02:31As always, a love message. But immediately afterward, he turns off his cell phone and puts it back in the drawer with his documents.

00:02:39He leaves his sister the money for the groceries and heads off to the dog park.

00:02:43His two truffle dogs that he placed in the highest part of the village.

00:02:48And it seems he only has some money in his wallet.

00:02:52And then after I called him, but he doesn't answer anymore.

00:02:56And then I said, okay, he'll call him later. And he calls and calls, and you don't answer at all.

00:03:01The images from the surveillance cameras show him walking from the square towards the steps.

00:03:07It is just after 10:00 AM on Friday, May 29th.

00:03:11He came up here after which he disappears from every camera.

00:03:15His friend Giulio tells us that at the age of 13 Giacomino went to work in Naples

00:03:20and who then worked for many years as a pizza chef in Valtellina for some relatives.

00:03:25There's a cheat in the kitchen. I mean, he used to be a cook.

00:03:30Have you been a cook for many years?

00:03:32Yes, yes. Until his father died, he had to take care of his mother and sister, he returned

00:03:38and he worked several hours as a road mender.

00:03:42He entered the province.

00:03:44He started working as a road mender for the province.

00:03:46Because his father was also a road mender.

00:03:51So Giacomino took over his father's work.

00:03:54Yes, yes, yes.

00:03:56Giacomino returns to work and takes care of his mother who is seriously ill on a daily basis.

00:04:01and she is the only sister affected by a very serious and inexorable disorder.

00:04:06He does this for many years, until his mother dies in January.

00:04:09When Mom died, I saw Giacomino a little down. That's what I saw.

00:04:16But Giacomino, despite being badly injured in a car accident two years ago

00:04:22where he suffered serious injuries to his legs which still cause him a lot of pain,

00:04:28He continued to take care of his sick sister alone.

00:04:32But in the last few months...

00:04:33He's lost weight.

00:04:38I lost a lot of weight.

00:04:39Have you lost a lot of weight?

00:04:40Yes, yes.

00:04:40How much weight has he lost?

00:04:41Eh, almost 16 kilos.

00:04:44How long had he been losing weight?

00:04:46Eh, but when I came back in February it was a little better.

00:04:50And then after, little by little, I saw that he lost weight.

00:04:53I said, but how come he lost so much weight?

00:04:56And he says, eh, I don't know, because it's already all spread out my pants, out my arm.

00:05:02I said, yeah, because I can see the back too, you can see all the bone here behind the shoulders too.

00:05:08I said, then you have to do the check.

00:05:11And he says, yes, yes, I'll go get checked out, I'll get tested and I'll go.

00:05:16But in the end the analysis didn't do it.

00:05:20In the end, the analysis didn't do it.

00:05:22Because she has to do it on Saturday and he left on Friday.

00:05:28But let's go back to the day of his disappearance, to the usual route to go to his truffle dogs.

00:05:34In fact, since he retired, Giacomino's only true passion has been truffle hunting.

00:05:40which here, in the painting area, abound.

00:05:43Along the way he stops to greet a friend, the last person to see him before he disappeared.

00:05:49When I'm in my garage, down there, he comes by and we always say hello.

00:05:55And it happened again on Friday, May 29th.

00:05:58In fact, I was inside and he called me.

00:06:00I didn't even see it because I was inside the garage.

00:06:03He called me, said hello, we chatted about this and that as always, and then he left.

00:06:09Did he seem like himself to you as always?

00:06:11Normal, calm with the dog food bag.

00:06:17And it was around 10, around 10, yeah.

00:06:20And I asked him why, how come you go to the dogs so early?

00:06:23He said I'm going to go and eat the dogs because then I'm going to Lanciano, I'm going to visit.

00:06:29And he said how he would go to Lanciano?

00:06:31He didn't tell me anything.

00:06:32Giacomino also tells him that he will have to go to Lanciano because of the death of an uncle.

00:06:37Certainly the relatives and those who have done research, the investigators, have discovered that he is not in Lanciano

00:06:45never arrived.

00:06:45What could he have done? Could he have taken a bus? Could he have hitched a ride with a motorist?

00:06:54But whose? And where did he get off? Did he get off at Lanciano? Or did he never get to Lanciano?

00:07:02Anyone at this moment knows anything about where Giacomino is, if they can give us a signal, if they are helping him.

00:07:10To give a signal to some of us. We're very close to Giacomino, but so is the whole town anyway.

00:07:19The whole country is in suspense, because everyone loves each other.

00:07:22So, come forward Giacomino or that person who is helping her will give us a small signal that at least we are there

00:07:29we reassure

00:07:29that he is alive and well and will return sooner or later.

00:07:37Nobody thinks that he took his own life, but instead everyone thinks that Giacomino was so exhausted,

00:07:44destroyed by adversities of all kinds, worn down to the point of wanting to disappear, perhaps just for a little while.

00:07:51And the mayor, on behalf of the entire town, makes an appeal to him.

00:07:55I don't think it was an extreme gesture by Giacomino, I don't want to believe it.

00:07:59I really want to hope and wish that this is indeed the case,

00:08:03that maybe, he says now, the situations are at the right point, in the right place,

00:08:09and therefore I can take a few days for myself.

00:08:12But I hope he can retrace his steps,

00:08:16if he will eventually have the opportunity to see this appeal of ours

00:08:20and this concern of ours for him, because we are waiting for him.

00:08:27See you right away after this short break.

00:08:43Her name is Giulia, what's going on that she sends a message to her dad

00:08:47and writes do you wish your mother a happy birthday?

00:08:51Then nothing more, silence, the parents don't worry immediately because she is a grown woman,

00:08:57but then the silence becomes too long.

00:09:00So, what happened to Giulia?

00:09:02Our correspondent, Raffaella Grigi, went to Sardinia

00:09:06and tells us everything with Alessandra Canonico.

00:09:15One step at a time, it seems a bit like a metaphor for Giulia's recent times.

00:09:19Something for her was a little more uphill than usual,

00:09:23but she never left without making a call to her family or friends,

00:09:27without notifying work.

00:09:29What an effort!

00:09:31Because something happened, someone took advantage of her,

00:09:35in his moment of weakness and this is the concern.

00:09:40Well, sure.

00:09:43Questions upon questions, since May 22nd and a lot of fear.

00:09:47This silence has been too long, there is no contact,

00:09:52nothing at all and this hurts us a lot.

00:09:58What happened in Giulia Boi's life,

00:10:0141 years old from Cagliari, only daughter,

00:10:03official of a public body,

00:10:05his parents try to tell it,

00:10:07tender and dignified.

00:10:10Eh, I should say something, I don't know.

00:10:14Giulia, I couldn't tell you the things about the special father you would have wanted.

00:10:22Antonello doesn't feel special for Giulia

00:10:25and he torments himself a lot, thinking about her.

00:10:28Why did you say you're not a special dad to her?

00:10:32Of course.

00:10:33Eh, because I always told him that I won't be the best,

00:10:36but there are certainly most of them, perhaps,

00:10:38even worse than me which is saying something.

00:10:41But, I don't know.

00:10:42Because there were some arguments, some squabbles.

00:10:46No, no, no, especially

00:10:50he expected great things from everyone.

00:10:53And the search for special people.

00:10:59Antonello is special, because in this moment he overcomes his reservations

00:11:03and he just wants to know that nothing has happened to his Giulia.

00:11:08You don't feel like coming back at the moment,

00:11:10at least let me know you're okay

00:11:12and that you are not in the grip of...

00:11:17Of wolves and jackals.

00:11:19It's certain.

00:11:21Let us know, by voice, not by writing,

00:11:25that you never know who is writing.

00:11:28Wolves and jackals, the fears of Antonello and Silvana,

00:11:32It's precisely the dangers of strangers.

00:11:36His face, his smile, which was beautiful.

00:11:40It's beautiful.

00:11:41It's beautiful.

00:11:41It's nice, right, you're right.

00:11:43It is true.

00:11:44It's beautiful.

00:11:44A beautiful, open smile.

00:11:46It's beautiful, but we don't see it.

00:11:47But with a touch of melancholy.

00:11:49A little melancholy, let's say.

00:11:52Even the smile.

00:11:53But sensitive, profound people.

00:11:55Very sensitive.

00:11:57She was very sensitive, very deep.

00:11:59She has always been very bright.

00:12:03Yes.

00:12:06Very good in all aspects of her life.

00:12:11With significant resources.

00:12:16But with an existential restlessness

00:12:22that he carries with him.

00:12:27She's a girl, not an ordinary one, Giulia.

00:12:29He always tends not to show off.

00:12:33He uses practically no tricks.

00:12:34He doesn't use tricks.

00:12:35Sometimes, very rarely, a little bit of rosetta.

00:12:39We can only look at the photos now,

00:12:41that she was beautiful, intelligent, smart.

00:12:46So many qualities that I wish I had,

00:12:47I always told him.

00:12:49But you have eyes, you're both dead, after all.

00:12:57For Antonello, Giulia, that's really everything.

00:13:00She is direct, studious, even today,

00:13:02after a long time since graduation.

00:13:06Yeah, that one there was nothing special

00:13:09for someone like her.

00:13:10Why did you see her?

00:13:11Because she's always been good,

00:13:12at school, at high school,

00:13:15the professor, when there was that problem,

00:13:18he said that Giulia had to intervene

00:13:20because she was a leader.

00:13:22But she will have been,

00:13:24but she didn't feel like a leader.

00:13:26So...

00:13:27What did she graduate in?

00:13:28In political science.

00:13:30Giulia, as I know her,

00:13:31he preferred small complex ones.

00:13:32Friends talk about a reserved woman

00:13:35and unconventional.

00:13:36She is an extremely intelligent girl,

00:13:39with a very fine sense of humor,

00:13:43sharp.

00:13:46She is a girl who loves the outdoors,

00:13:50he loves the mountains, he loves the sea.

00:13:53Giulia has a lot,

00:13:55but how it's made

00:13:56he feels a little lacking,

00:13:57Antonello tells us.

00:13:59He must not have given us a grandchild,

00:14:01as his friends evidently do,

00:14:03cousins were doing

00:14:04in the same period.

00:14:05But the last month was down.

00:14:08He was down.

00:14:10But to make this move away,

00:14:13if he wanted to do it,

00:14:15he found his strength again,

00:14:17because it takes courage and strength,

00:14:18In my opinion,

00:14:19to do something,

00:14:20to organize something.

00:14:21It's time to escape from yourself and others.

00:14:26Let's proceed in order.

00:14:28May 19th is Giulia's birthday.

00:14:30He spends it with his family.

00:14:33The 21st is coming.

00:14:34Two days later he goes to a party

00:14:36of a community more than half an hour from home

00:14:38and where the library is registered.

00:14:41If he asked to be able to sleep,

00:14:43but he didn't sleep.

00:14:44Clearly it was not possible

00:14:47for obvious reasons,

00:14:48because clearly from us

00:14:49whoever is there is an alternative measure,

00:14:52they are detained,

00:14:54so we cannot host outsiders.

00:14:58We don't know the reason for this request.

00:15:01Maybe just to avoid

00:15:03traveling in the dark?

00:15:04Anyway that evening

00:15:05he calls his people and goes to them.

00:15:07And then the next morning

00:15:10around 8 o'clock

00:15:11she's gone.

00:15:12The car has gone away.

00:15:13I have a lot of things to do.

00:15:14Yes, I have a lot of things to do.

00:15:16And she went away.

00:15:18Giulia leaves with her car

00:15:20recently bought,

00:15:24license plate GW939WH.

00:15:27Blue.

00:15:28What kind of car is this?

00:15:30A Suzuki Ignis.

00:15:32Our work doesn't pass.

00:15:35Then comes May 27th

00:15:37and Giulia sends a concise text message to her father

00:15:40who asked her how she was doing

00:15:41since the last time they saw each other.

00:15:44We gave this message

00:15:46so, quite laconic

00:15:48in the sense of

00:15:50Hi dad, wish mom a happy birthday.

00:15:52And it wasn't a good birthday.

00:15:54Absolutely not,

00:15:55it was a very bad birthday.

00:15:57And then after that

00:15:58but we've calmed down a bit

00:16:01why did he say

00:16:02well, written like that, it's her

00:16:05but then he disconnected

00:16:07and it was no longer reasonable.

00:16:09So I'm connecting now

00:16:10with Silvana and Antonello

00:16:13and there is with them

00:16:14Penelope's lawyer Piscitelli.

00:16:17The thing that worries me the most

00:16:18it's also another one

00:16:19as he had told us

00:16:20Lawyer Piscitelli

00:16:21last Wednesday live.

00:16:24The problem started to arise

00:16:26when a phone call came

00:16:28from the workplace.

00:16:30The director who called

00:16:32and he said

00:16:33but we are

00:16:34we have no news of Giulia

00:16:37you know nothing.

00:16:38And it seemed very strange

00:16:39that he didn't have

00:16:40nor sent a message

00:16:43I'm sick

00:16:44I continue my holidays

00:16:45I'm taking leave

00:16:47Nothing

00:16:48no news.

00:16:49She was extremely

00:16:50punctual and precise

00:16:52with work

00:16:52so the fact

00:16:53that she hadn't returned to work

00:16:55and had failed

00:16:57to some obligations

00:16:58it's not like her.

00:17:01Giulia had taken vacation

00:17:03until June 1st

00:17:04it's a permanent position

00:17:05Calm

00:17:06that many would like to have

00:17:07and it plays an important role.

00:17:09Evidently he had

00:17:11of the difficulties

00:17:12that we didn't know

00:17:14but completely

00:17:15and then

00:17:15evidently

00:17:17he had mentioned it to us

00:17:18to some things

00:17:19but not

00:17:19in there

00:17:21at work

00:17:22Yes

00:17:22but evidently

00:17:24at this moment

00:17:24of difficulty

00:17:26his personal

00:17:27he found

00:17:30this mode

00:17:31of reaction.

00:17:35A reaction

00:17:37unusual anyway

00:17:38that alarms

00:17:38and not a little

00:17:39who loves her.

00:17:41Where is Giulia?

00:17:42He took a ferry

00:17:43in the middle of nature

00:17:45and to the sea?

00:17:48With this girl

00:17:49missing since May 22

00:17:51let's say

00:17:52Who saw it?

00:17:53Have you ever seen it?

00:17:55in the surroundings?

00:17:55No

00:17:55I saw it on social media

00:17:57the photo

00:17:57but not

00:17:58doesn't that tell you anything?

00:17:59No.

00:17:59This girl

00:18:01have you ever seen it?

00:18:03Julia?

00:18:04No

00:18:04she's been missing for a while

00:18:06No

00:18:06here in Caglia

00:18:07In short

00:18:07No

00:18:09I saw the broadcast

00:18:10I followed

00:18:10but I've never seen it

00:18:11No

00:18:13Giulia's parents

00:18:15they are worried

00:18:16enough to go

00:18:17everyday

00:18:17in the street

00:18:18where the daughter lives

00:18:19with hope

00:18:20and discretion

00:18:21where they would settle

00:18:23to see

00:18:23even just

00:18:24his blue car

00:18:26Hope

00:18:27that's it

00:18:28to see his car

00:18:30parked

00:18:30near Cagliari

00:18:32Certain

00:18:33and that's it

00:18:34Giulia didn't watch television

00:18:36he didn't even have a television

00:18:38but if ever

00:18:39should find

00:18:41this clip

00:18:41on the internet

00:18:43and he were to see it

00:18:45I would just add this

00:18:47that she knows

00:18:48which is

00:18:49much more loved

00:18:50of what

00:18:51you can only imagine

00:18:52that we are waiting for you

00:18:54and that

00:18:57us

00:18:57and friends

00:18:59that she had

00:19:00even closer

00:19:01than I am

00:19:02we love her

00:19:03of the soul

00:19:04and we wait for nothing else

00:19:06that a sign of his life

00:19:07but at least

00:19:08give us a sign

00:19:09of the fact

00:19:10that she is well

00:19:11let's hope this wind

00:19:13ports

00:19:14some good ones

00:19:15that the wind

00:19:16take these away

00:19:18pains

00:19:18and this one of his

00:19:19distance

00:19:20that the wind

00:19:20you bring it back

00:19:21towards us

00:19:21Hi Giulia

00:19:22us

00:19:24Curd

00:19:25and all the people

00:19:27who knows you

00:19:28is waiting for you

00:19:28because he knows

00:19:29that you are special

00:19:31HI

00:19:32HI

00:19:40they contact us

00:19:41worried

00:19:42the family members

00:19:42by Fausti

00:19:43who is 56 years old

00:19:44he moved away

00:19:45from Latina Scalo

00:19:46Friday, June 19

00:19:48a cousin

00:19:50accompanied him

00:19:51at the station

00:19:51Latina Scalo

00:19:52he took a train

00:19:538:20

00:19:54for Rome

00:19:55where to go

00:19:55at the embassy

00:19:57to solve

00:19:57a problem

00:19:58since then though

00:19:59none of the family members

00:20:00he saw him again

00:20:00it is heard

00:20:01his cell phone

00:20:02it is unreachable

00:20:04they tell us

00:20:04which is going through

00:20:05a special moment

00:20:07might need

00:20:08for help

00:20:11At that time

00:20:12we have to find

00:20:14absolutely

00:20:14him with his car

00:20:16what's happening

00:20:17that Renzo Profili

00:20:18he takes his car

00:20:20someone sees it

00:20:21to go against the grain

00:20:23and disappear

00:20:25consider that he

00:20:26he is 89 years old

00:20:28then we are there

00:20:29with Maria Rosaria

00:20:30Pied Piper

00:20:30and Vanessa

00:20:31Rinaldi

00:20:36physically

00:20:37he was fine

00:20:39analysis in place

00:20:40and he was climbing the stairs

00:20:42at home

00:20:42calmly

00:20:43I

00:20:43the previous Saturday

00:20:45I had gone

00:20:46to take it

00:20:47in the afternoon

00:20:49we had done

00:20:50a beautiful walk

00:20:52even long

00:20:52but I was tired

00:20:53more me than him

00:20:54and he was oriented

00:20:56he knew all the ways

00:20:57around the house

00:20:59really

00:21:00when I went up

00:21:02At home

00:21:02he put himself

00:21:03his toupee

00:21:04he combed it

00:21:05he asked me

00:21:06how am I?

00:21:07Everything OK

00:21:10here is Lorenzo

00:21:11that in Viterbo

00:21:12his city

00:21:12everyone knows

00:21:13like Enzo

00:21:14these photos

00:21:15they go back

00:21:16a few days ago

00:21:17on a nice trip

00:21:17to the sea

00:21:18and they are the last ones

00:21:19yes because of Enzo

00:21:20since last

00:21:21June 18th

00:21:22there is no more news

00:21:23it seems to have happened

00:21:25lost in the void

00:21:28At that time

00:21:28the demolisher

00:21:29reports

00:21:30that have arrived

00:21:31here in the area

00:21:32towards the

00:21:339

00:21:349:15

00:21:35and they parked

00:21:36exactly here

00:21:37he didn't want to come down

00:21:39because he says

00:21:39I'm fine in the car

00:21:40I don't want to go in

00:21:41to the hospital

00:21:42I'll wait for you here

00:21:43and she reports

00:21:44of having gone

00:21:45at the checkout

00:21:46of having paid

00:21:47the ticket

00:21:48to have returned

00:21:49here to try

00:21:50again

00:21:51to convince Enzo

00:21:52to enter the hospital

00:21:54at this point

00:21:55it's happened again

00:21:56rejected

00:21:56after much insistence

00:21:58she

00:21:59leaving him the keys

00:22:01because he says

00:22:02that he asked

00:22:04the keys

00:22:05to be able to lower

00:22:06the windows

00:22:07this is what she reports

00:22:08if it is again

00:22:09entering the hospital

00:22:10she came back here

00:22:12and it was no longer there

00:22:13nor the machine

00:22:13nor Renzo

00:22:1589 years old

00:22:16he doesn't want to let go

00:22:18but the disappointment

00:22:19lived

00:22:19in the last year and a half

00:22:21for the loss

00:22:22of his beloved wife

00:22:23he left in him

00:22:24of scars

00:22:25he closed himself off

00:22:27comes out less

00:22:28and every now and then

00:22:29has small gaps

00:22:30of memory

00:22:31Thursday though

00:22:32he wanted to accompany

00:22:33his carer

00:22:34at the Tarquinia hospital

00:22:36they arrived at the hospital

00:22:38shortly after

00:22:38nine in the morning

00:22:39the woman at ten

00:22:41he made the visit

00:22:41that it's over

00:22:42half an hour later

00:22:43but at that time

00:22:44Enzo

00:22:44he was no longer out

00:22:45waiting for her

00:22:47Enzo

00:22:48had remained

00:22:49in his smart

00:22:49white in the shade

00:22:50and then

00:22:51where did he go

00:22:52a lady

00:22:54remember having it

00:22:55encountered

00:22:55in Via Cere

00:22:57Then I was walking

00:22:58that road there

00:22:59I had just fed it

00:23:00when I saw

00:23:01this smart

00:23:01white that came

00:23:03against hand

00:23:04there are two cars

00:23:05they even pass through there

00:23:06and it wasn't bad at all

00:23:07it's a bit narrow

00:23:09and when this gentleman

00:23:10he got closer

00:23:12and we had to

00:23:13almost stop

00:23:14to be able to pass

00:23:14both

00:23:15I told him

00:23:16but look, she

00:23:17it's against the hand

00:23:18and he with his hand

00:23:19right and left

00:23:20he made me

00:23:21a sign of avoidance

00:23:22I say but look at that

00:23:24I noticed

00:23:24this big patch

00:23:25in the ear

00:23:26at half past twelve

00:23:28out of the hospital

00:23:29they also arrive

00:23:30Enzo's family

00:23:31they are looking for it

00:23:32but nothing

00:23:33he could too

00:23:35having made a U-turn

00:23:36and took this road

00:23:38which is quite wide

00:23:39so it doesn't seem like it

00:23:40not even

00:23:41one-way

00:23:43and from here we arrive

00:23:44behind the hospital

00:23:45on Ceri Street

00:23:45where there was

00:23:47the sighting

00:23:47of the lady

00:23:48let's say anyway

00:23:50the perimeter of the hospital

00:23:51that I have in a sense

00:23:52or in the other

00:23:53he did it against his will

00:23:54or from here

00:23:55or from above

00:23:57and then he went down along

00:23:59this way

00:23:59always against hand

00:24:01which is anyway

00:24:01against the grain

00:24:02because it's one way

00:24:04uphill

00:24:05I don't know now

00:24:06the lady

00:24:07at what point

00:24:08he crossed it

00:24:10that Enzo

00:24:11that Enzo has passed by

00:24:11from here

00:24:12they confirm it

00:24:13even the videos

00:24:14of these cameras

00:24:15and then

00:24:16where did he go

00:24:18I'm always

00:24:19of the cameras

00:24:20to give us some answers

00:24:21the first

00:24:22those are those

00:24:22of the historic center

00:24:23of Tarquinia

00:24:24that frame it

00:24:25at 11.10

00:24:26as he enters

00:24:27in the city walls

00:24:28Enzo travels

00:24:29of the streets

00:24:29of the historic center

00:24:30and in the round

00:24:31a few minutes

00:24:32comes out of the same

00:24:33brings

00:24:33from which he had entered

00:24:34at that point

00:24:36Enzo leaves

00:24:36Tarquinia

00:24:37It's 11.21am

00:24:38the cameras

00:24:40this time

00:24:40of a roundabout

00:24:41they take it back

00:24:42for the last time

00:24:43in the city

00:24:43but then

00:24:44he may have headed

00:24:46towards Tuscania

00:24:47or

00:24:47to have gone

00:24:48towards the Aurelia

00:24:49or to have entered

00:24:50in the countryside

00:24:52with certainty

00:24:54we know

00:24:54which he did not retrace

00:24:55the outward journey

00:24:56why he never came back

00:24:57towards Tarquinia

00:24:58he didn't even go

00:24:59in Montalto di Castro

00:25:01why the cameras

00:25:02of the country

00:25:02they didn't frame it

00:25:03Thursday

00:25:05he went out without a phone

00:25:06the cell phone was ringing

00:25:08but he didn't answer

00:25:10then when we came back

00:25:11At home

00:25:12had remained

00:25:13in the pocket

00:25:14of a jacket

00:25:15inside the closet

00:25:19the family members

00:25:21they looked for him everywhere

00:25:22they were

00:25:22in nearby cities

00:25:23and they scouted

00:25:25the surrounding areas

00:25:26to identify

00:25:27Enzo's car

00:25:28they even have

00:25:29used

00:25:30a helicopter

00:25:31made available

00:25:32from a friend

00:25:34but Enzo's

00:25:36and of his

00:25:36white smart

00:25:37no trace

00:25:38he may have headed

00:25:40towards the sea

00:25:40where he had been

00:25:41a few days before

00:25:42in company

00:25:43of the abbadante

00:25:44we searched

00:25:45the sea

00:25:46because he

00:25:46days ago

00:25:47he had been to lunch

00:25:47to the sea

00:25:48with the abbadante

00:25:49in fact the photos

00:25:50that we have

00:25:50signs

00:25:51were taken

00:25:52in Tarquinia Lido

00:25:53to Marina Velca

00:25:55he has a house

00:25:56together with his brothers

00:25:58the location

00:25:59what is called

00:25:59Plain of Spille

00:26:00it's a district

00:26:02closed

00:26:03where is it

00:26:04the access

00:26:04with the bar

00:26:05supervised

00:26:0624 hours

00:26:08I

00:26:08I was

00:26:09to the security guard

00:26:10and he

00:26:11he tells me

00:26:12I didn't have

00:26:13I saw no one

00:26:13where is Enzo?

00:26:16where he may have arrived

00:26:17with his smart?

00:26:19this

00:26:19the license plate

00:26:20EG

00:26:22926EG

00:26:23they have passed

00:26:25seven days

00:26:25from the disappearance

00:26:26and family members

00:26:27they are very worried

00:26:28we know

00:26:30that the smart

00:26:30could have had

00:26:31an autonomy

00:26:31of 100-150 km

00:26:33so we ask

00:26:34to all people

00:26:34who live

00:26:35in the Tarquinia area

00:26:36Plain of Spille

00:26:38Marina Velca

00:26:38Montalto

00:26:39the entire coast

00:26:40if they have information

00:26:41they saw

00:26:42they suspect

00:26:43of having seen

00:26:43a white Smart

00:26:44an elderly person

00:26:45very thin

00:26:46a little confused

00:26:47for any information

00:26:49any doubts

00:26:50any possible sighting

00:26:51please

00:26:52to call

00:26:52the 112

00:26:53the police

00:26:59and we'll make it up to you again

00:27:00see the license plate

00:27:01of the white smart

00:27:02why it's important

00:27:03even just

00:27:03find the car

00:27:05At that time

00:27:05the white smart

00:27:06the license plate

00:27:07EG

00:27:09926EG

00:27:09here it is

00:27:11another disappearance

00:27:12is called

00:27:13Livian

00:27:13lives in Civitanova

00:27:14in the province

00:27:15in Cittanova

00:27:16Excuse me

00:27:17in the province

00:27:17from Reggio Calabria

00:27:18and had

00:27:19a complicated life

00:27:20a bad accident

00:27:21at work

00:27:22contact us

00:27:23his sister

00:27:24Ioana

00:27:24because from May 9th

00:27:25he is no longer heard from

00:27:27with no one

00:27:28in the last phone call

00:27:29he had said

00:27:29who wanted to go

00:27:30in Turin

00:27:30to search

00:27:31an occupation

00:27:33the sister

00:27:34per week

00:27:35filmed in Turin

00:27:36with his photo

00:27:37in your hands

00:27:37in search

00:27:38of someone

00:27:39that could

00:27:39give her information

00:27:41but nothing

00:27:42and then

00:27:43Now

00:27:43he is addressing

00:27:44to all of you

00:27:47how much we have for you

00:27:48spoke

00:27:48of the disappearance

00:27:49by Barbara Corvi

00:27:50and how many times

00:27:51we said

00:27:51that mothers

00:27:52they don't go away

00:27:53voluntarily

00:27:54the judicial process

00:27:57it was long

00:27:58then he was investigated again

00:27:59again

00:28:00the husband

00:28:01but the husband

00:28:02with his lawyers

00:28:02they say

00:28:03those postcards

00:28:04who know a lot

00:28:05of misdirection

00:28:06they are not

00:28:07says the husband

00:28:07they are not my work

00:28:09and then

00:28:10what's happening

00:28:11that we have

00:28:13asked

00:28:13to an expert

00:28:14to read

00:28:15these postcards

00:28:17for us

00:28:17to understand it

00:28:18moreover

00:28:19consider

00:28:19that in postcards

00:28:21it's written

00:28:21I am fine

00:28:22I'll be back soon

00:28:23I want to stay

00:28:24a bit

00:28:25alone

00:28:25mom

00:28:26then revolt

00:28:27to the son

00:28:28but in reality

00:28:29I'll be back soon

00:28:30there was no

00:28:31why Barbara Corvi

00:28:32it's still

00:28:33a woman

00:28:33disappearance

00:28:34our correspondent

00:28:35Chiara Cazzaniga

00:28:37with Imma

00:28:37Giuliani

00:28:43you can easily

00:28:45to exclude

00:28:46that it is

00:28:47the handwriting

00:28:48by Barbara Corvi

00:28:49I have viewed

00:28:51aside

00:28:52the handwriting

00:28:53by Barbara Corvi

00:28:54Also

00:28:55those

00:28:55of the four

00:28:56suspects

00:28:57in one

00:28:58There are

00:28:59different characteristics

00:29:00signs

00:29:01that do yes

00:29:03that I

00:29:04I can't

00:29:05to exclude

00:29:06that the hand

00:29:08of one

00:29:08of the suspects

00:29:09be the same

00:29:10hand

00:29:11that he then has

00:29:11made the postcards

00:29:14has therefore

00:29:15a name

00:29:15the person

00:29:16who wrote

00:29:16these postcards

00:29:17pretending to be

00:29:18Barbara Corvi

00:29:19and who sent them

00:29:20eight days later

00:29:21the disappearance

00:29:22of the young woman

00:29:23who was interested

00:29:24to make people believe

00:29:25that that

00:29:26it was a departure

00:29:27voluntary

00:29:28that the 35-year-old

00:29:29were in Florence

00:29:30and soon it would be

00:29:31returned to her home

00:29:32to Amelia

00:29:32in Umbria

00:29:33from his beloved children

00:29:34in a little while

00:29:36we will explain to you

00:29:37who could

00:29:37having written

00:29:38these two postcards

00:29:39a person

00:29:40that all of you

00:29:40you know

00:29:42meanwhile

00:29:43Today

00:29:43the postcards

00:29:44at a distance

00:29:4517 years old

00:29:46I'm in the center

00:29:47of the new investigation

00:29:48of the Terni prosecutor's office

00:29:49which sees written

00:29:50in the register

00:29:50of the suspects

00:29:51for the second time

00:29:52with the accusation

00:29:53of murder

00:29:54Barbara's husband

00:29:55Roberto Lo Giudice

00:29:56and his brother Maurizio

00:29:58let's hope that with this

00:30:00let this story end

00:30:01let's make things clear

00:30:03And

00:30:05we can move forward

00:30:06on another street

00:30:08in another way

00:30:09the court of Terni

00:30:11on request

00:30:11of the lawyers

00:30:12by Roberto Lo Giudice

00:30:13he arranged

00:30:14that the investigations

00:30:15on the two postcards

00:30:16are carried out

00:30:17in evidentiary incident

00:30:18and that DNA

00:30:19possibly identified

00:30:21be compared

00:30:22even with that

00:30:23of a third man

00:30:24Carlo Barcherini

00:30:25the young man

00:30:25with whom Barbara

00:30:26he had a relationship

00:30:27extramarital

00:30:28when she disappeared

00:30:29and that was found

00:30:30right in Florence

00:30:31the day

00:30:32in which the two postcards

00:30:33they have been sent

00:30:34then let's continue

00:30:35to send

00:30:35with Roberto Lo Giudice

00:30:36because it's convenient

00:30:38because it's convenient

00:30:39let's continue

00:30:39this happened

00:30:41because I

00:30:41I left out

00:30:42Today I don't leave anything out anymore

00:30:44I

00:30:44who attacks me

00:30:46I attack it

00:30:46let this be very clear

00:30:48who is reporting me?

00:30:49I denounce him again

00:30:50because the only life

00:30:52which has been ruined

00:30:53it's mine

00:30:53not theirs

00:30:56I am sorry

00:30:58Excuse me

00:30:59but it's not good like this

00:31:01it's not fair

00:31:03Barbara Corvi

00:31:04disappears on a Tuesday

00:31:05in autumn

00:31:0624 hours before

00:31:07her husband

00:31:08Roberto Lo Giudice

00:31:09it was confirmed

00:31:10that the woman

00:31:11he betrays him

00:31:11with Carlo Barcherini

00:31:12It's October 27th

00:31:14of 2009

00:31:16a little more passes

00:31:17of a week

00:31:18when in Amelia

00:31:19in the shop

00:31:19by Barbara and Roberto

00:31:20the two postcards arrive

00:31:22addressed to children

00:31:23to get some information

00:31:25in addition

00:31:26we showed them

00:31:27to Sara Cordella

00:31:28forensic graphologist

00:31:29there are some characteristics

00:31:31in the first

00:31:32and in the second

00:31:34that make you think

00:31:35that the same person

00:31:38I wrote

00:31:38the two postcards

00:31:39for example what?

00:31:41for example

00:31:41the way of writing

00:31:43upward

00:31:44the word mom

00:31:45the dimensions

00:31:46very large

00:31:47the forensic graphologist

00:31:49First of all, he explains to us

00:31:50that whoever wrote

00:31:51he disguised

00:31:52your own handwriting

00:31:53so as not to be recognized

00:31:55this is a case

00:31:56of hidden tremor

00:31:57what does it mean?

00:31:58that is not a tremor

00:31:59genuine

00:32:00I mean, I don't write like that

00:32:01why am I shaking

00:32:02I write like this

00:32:03why I put into being

00:32:05a mechanism

00:32:06of control

00:32:07that makes me tremble

00:32:09the two postcards

00:32:10the expert clarifies

00:32:11they were written

00:32:12with an untrained hand

00:32:14in practice

00:32:15with the hand

00:32:15which usually

00:32:16it is not used

00:32:16but that doesn't matter much

00:32:18why some movements

00:32:20they remain the same

00:32:21regardless

00:32:22from the hand

00:32:22used for writing

00:32:23the graphic gesture

00:32:25is not born

00:32:26nor here

00:32:27nor here

00:32:28born here

00:32:29what does this mean?

00:32:31which apparently

00:32:33the two scriptures

00:32:34they are different

00:32:35actually

00:32:37There are

00:32:39of gestures

00:32:40of movement

00:32:42that are the same

00:32:44as if I

00:32:45I walked

00:32:46or I walked

00:32:47from lame

00:32:48the movement

00:32:49it's the same

00:32:50but what is created

00:32:52on the sheet

00:32:53it's different

00:32:55a consultant

00:32:56appointed by the prosecutor

00:32:5717 years ago

00:32:58had compared

00:32:59the handwriting of the two postcards

00:33:01with that of some people

00:33:02close to Barbara Corvi

00:33:04her husband Roberto Lo Giudice

00:33:05the couple's two children

00:33:07and Carlo Barcherini

00:33:08to all of them

00:33:09it had been asked

00:33:10to write

00:33:11under dictatorship

00:33:12a graphic essay

00:33:13the graphic essay

00:33:14it's exactly

00:33:16an interrogation

00:33:16as if I

00:33:17I questioned

00:33:18a person

00:33:18I have to put

00:33:20the person

00:33:20in the conditions

00:33:22to lower

00:33:23as much as possible

00:33:24the defenses

00:33:25at the time

00:33:26the consultant

00:33:27of the prosecution

00:33:27had concluded

00:33:28that no one

00:33:29of the four

00:33:29suspects

00:33:30Roberto Lo Giudice

00:33:32the two sons

00:33:32and Carlo Barcherini

00:33:33he had written

00:33:34those postcards

00:33:35but Sara Cordella

00:33:37Today

00:33:37looking carefully

00:33:39those graphic essays

00:33:40he explains to us

00:33:40which is not so

00:33:41those postcards

00:33:42they could be

00:33:43were written

00:33:44from one of them

00:33:45these are

00:33:46of the signs

00:33:46very small

00:33:47but I am

00:33:48very present

00:33:49numerically

00:33:50so I can't

00:33:52to exclude

00:33:52that it was him

00:33:53him

00:33:54or Carlo Barcherini

00:33:56Barbara Corvi's lover

00:33:58the man who

00:33:58when the two postcards

00:34:00they have been sent

00:34:01from Florence

00:34:01it was right in Florence

00:34:03let's compare

00:34:04the two postcards

00:34:05with his graphic essay

00:34:07when I do

00:34:08a circular letter

00:34:10I always have

00:34:11a starting point

00:34:12and an end point

00:34:14generally

00:34:15always the same

00:34:16because in my head

00:34:17the O

00:34:18it's done in a certain way

00:34:20in this case

00:34:21the starting point

00:34:23and the end point

00:34:24it's the same

00:34:25and at the same time

00:34:27there is also

00:34:27an internal track

00:34:29that enters

00:34:30within

00:34:31of the oval

00:34:32this is a gesture

00:34:33is

00:34:35difficult to conceal

00:34:37in the sense that I have it

00:34:38but it's difficult

00:34:40to imitate

00:34:41another feature

00:34:42important

00:34:43it's how it's made

00:34:45the letter B

00:34:47you have to look

00:34:48three things

00:34:49the inclination

00:34:50and the letter goes

00:34:51in both cases

00:34:53backwards

00:34:53to a double

00:34:55initial passage

00:34:56so a sort of V

00:34:58which is translated here

00:34:59in black

00:35:00because it's a sign

00:35:01more heavier

00:35:02a central eyelet

00:35:04and a buttonhole

00:35:06which falls within

00:35:08so the ideation

00:35:09of the B

00:35:09it's the same

00:35:10the letter G

00:35:12in the same way

00:35:13it's the same movement

00:35:14something special

00:35:16it's the accent

00:35:17which is part

00:35:18of those who are called

00:35:19fleeting gestures

00:35:20that is, those so fast

00:35:22that I don't think about it

00:35:23which is placed

00:35:24at the top

00:35:25but slightly to the right

00:35:27compared to the letter

00:35:28and above all

00:35:29has a movement

00:35:30totally horizontal

00:35:32still here

00:35:33the ideation

00:35:34of the letter M

00:35:35let's go and see

00:35:37the same HO

00:35:39and the same HO

00:35:40apart from the construction

00:35:42very similar

00:35:44of the letters

00:35:44you can see that it's there

00:35:46the one that is called

00:35:47spadiformity

00:35:48that is, it starts big

00:35:51and it ends small

00:35:52start big

00:35:53and it ends small

00:35:55last very characteristic

00:35:57the E

00:35:58built in three sections

00:36:01precisely for these signs

00:36:03for the graphologist

00:36:04forensic

00:36:05it cannot be ruled out

00:36:06that the postcards

00:36:07were written

00:36:09by Carlo Barcherini

00:36:10it was Carlo Barcherini

00:36:12so

00:36:13to write these postcards

00:36:15we call him

00:36:17we explain the situation to him

00:36:18and we ask him directly

00:36:20did you write the postcards?

00:36:22but obviously not

00:36:23but it all seems right to me

00:36:24It seems a bit like that to me

00:36:26a persecution

00:36:27this story

00:36:27some postcards

00:36:28I find it

00:36:31everything is really absurd

00:36:32there is a graphologist

00:36:33what does he tell me

00:36:34which cannot be excluded

00:36:35that those postcards

00:36:35were written

00:36:36by Carlo Barcherini

00:36:37Carlo Barcherini

00:36:38in those days

00:36:38he was in Florence

00:36:39Yes

00:36:39no but

00:36:40you are absolutely right

00:36:41but it's the end

00:36:42I write postcards

00:36:43For?

00:36:44why us

00:36:44we have always thought

00:36:45that those postcards

00:36:46were written

00:36:47to mislead

00:36:48to me

00:36:48why mislead

00:36:49it seems to me

00:36:50that they were written

00:36:51to search

00:36:52to blame it on me

00:36:53I read it a little

00:36:55Like this

00:36:56I understand that

00:36:56the lawyers

00:36:57they have to do their job

00:36:58they shift attention

00:36:59on postcards

00:36:59but it doesn't hold up

00:37:00it's a joke

00:37:01one thing

00:37:02it looks like a comic

00:37:03a tragic comic

00:37:05Carlo Barcherini

00:37:06that this time

00:37:07he preferred

00:37:08don't meet us

00:37:09he always told us

00:37:10to have gone

00:37:11those two days

00:37:12in Florence

00:37:12because it was too much

00:37:13the pressure

00:37:14to which in the period

00:37:15immediately after

00:37:15Barbara's disappearance

00:37:16was subjected

00:37:17but if I'm not mistaken

00:37:19at the time

00:37:20maybe to someone

00:37:21you also said

00:37:22that you would have gone

00:37:23to look for Barbara

00:37:24in Florence

00:37:25Yes

00:37:26but you know

00:37:27those are the things

00:37:27That

00:37:29go look where

00:37:30driven by desire

00:37:31to find her

00:37:32but

00:37:33actually

00:37:34those two days

00:37:34I was at home

00:37:35of my sadness

00:37:36it's not even anymore

00:37:37a friend of Barbara

00:37:38heard at the time

00:37:39as an informed person

00:37:40on the facts

00:37:41he says that

00:37:41Carlo Barcherini

00:37:42he had explained to her

00:37:43to have left

00:37:44for Florence

00:37:45to look for Barbara

00:37:46but he had asked her

00:37:47not to spread the word

00:37:49and that he would have it

00:37:49he contacted himself again

00:37:51with a different number

00:37:53do you remember

00:37:53Why

00:37:54you would have told her

00:37:55not to let it be known

00:37:56that you were in Florence

00:37:59because honestly

00:38:00when I went

00:38:00to go to Florence

00:38:03something he didn't know

00:38:04Nobody

00:38:05I had

00:38:06a strong feeling

00:38:07that someone

00:38:09was following me

00:38:10that is, it was a thing

00:38:11so strong

00:38:12strong

00:38:12in fact he turned around on me

00:38:13more than once more

00:38:14because there was someone

00:38:15that was following me

00:38:16on this

00:38:16I have no shadow

00:38:17of doubt

00:38:18Carlo Barcherini

00:38:19confirms to us

00:38:20of having changed

00:38:21telephone number

00:38:22just when

00:38:22he went to Florence

00:38:24but it was there

00:38:25when they were

00:38:26send the postcards

00:38:27where it was located

00:38:28when she disappeared

00:38:29Barbara

00:38:29do you remember

00:38:30What

00:38:31you did

00:38:31that day?

00:38:33at this moment

00:38:34you don't know

00:38:36felt as a person

00:38:37informed about the facts

00:38:38days later

00:38:39the disappearance

00:38:40Carlo Barcherini

00:38:41tells

00:38:42of having been

00:38:42at the labor office

00:38:43that morning

00:38:44to have glimpsed

00:38:45Barbara in the car

00:38:46with her husband

00:38:47but not to remember

00:38:49what he did

00:38:49that afternoon

00:38:50so it's not that

00:38:51you and Barbara

00:38:52that afternoon

00:38:53somehow

00:38:55you gave yourselves

00:38:55an appointment

00:38:56and then you went

00:38:57away together

00:38:58and then you don't have them

00:38:59permission to return

00:39:00more at home

00:39:01hand

00:39:03No

00:39:05Excuse me

00:39:05who laughs at it

00:39:06but

00:39:07it's a lot of science

00:39:08oh well

00:39:09I would have kept it

00:39:10with me

00:39:12the only certainty

00:39:13is that the last one

00:39:14to have seen her

00:39:15it's really him

00:39:15Roberto Lo Giudice

00:39:16we remember archived

00:39:18and now under investigation again

00:39:20that tells

00:39:20of having left her

00:39:21alone

00:39:22At home

00:39:22around 5.30pm

00:39:24she declared

00:39:26which practically

00:39:27shortly before disappearing

00:39:28his wife

00:39:29had spent

00:39:30one thousand euros

00:39:31in underwear

00:39:33and new clothes

00:39:34At that time

00:39:35it had been ascertained

00:39:36what underwear

00:39:38his wife

00:39:38he hadn't bought any

00:39:39had spent

00:39:40500 euros

00:39:41in clothes

00:39:42and boots

00:39:43but that

00:39:44they were found

00:39:44At home

00:39:45she had taken some away

00:39:47I'm not even

00:39:47they adopt

00:39:48I have never seen

00:39:48these things

00:39:49This

00:39:50what he writes

00:39:51the operations department

00:39:51Exactly

00:39:52Therefore

00:39:53the operations department

00:39:54he found

00:39:54mayonnaise

00:39:55with the label

00:39:57that she bought

00:39:58probably

00:39:59but excuse me

00:39:59Roberto Lo Giudice

00:40:01tells us

00:40:02that wasn't there

00:40:02when they did

00:40:03those controls

00:40:04Why

00:40:04three weeks

00:40:05after the disappearance

00:40:06of the wife

00:40:06he knows on the phone

00:40:08another woman

00:40:08brother's sister-in-law

00:40:09Maurizio

00:40:10he leaves for Calabria

00:40:11and the door in Umbria

00:40:12he needed

00:40:14of someone

00:40:14that held

00:40:15house in order

00:40:16and instead of taking

00:40:17a housekeeper

00:40:17he found

00:40:18a girlfriend

00:40:19have you ever thought

00:40:20Meaning what

00:40:20if Barbara

00:40:21had returned home

00:40:25what would he have told her?

00:40:27At home

00:40:28what was he supposed to tell me?

00:40:30what could he tell me?

00:40:31were you getting back together?

00:40:31weren't you getting back together?

00:40:33I kept Caterina

00:40:33and I cared about her too

00:40:34what was the problem?

00:40:36and some others too

00:40:37only that Barbara

00:40:38at his house

00:40:39she never came back

00:40:40and he

00:40:41after being

00:40:42under investigation

00:40:42arrested

00:40:43released from prison

00:40:44and archived

00:40:45for the murder

00:40:46of his wife

00:40:47Today

00:40:47he is under investigation again

00:40:49he was investigated

00:40:50about me

00:40:51it has been ascertained

00:40:51that I

00:40:52I don't know

00:40:52a cabbage

00:40:53of this story

00:40:54you want

00:40:55for once

00:40:57open these eyes

00:40:59if not here

00:41:00we never finish it

00:41:01I don't give it to him

00:41:03another interview

00:41:04this is very clear to us

00:41:04it's closed for me

00:41:06those journalists

00:41:06if I had done

00:41:09hurt my wife

00:41:10I would have accused myself

00:41:16At that time

00:41:17a love story

00:41:18between a German girl

00:41:20and a young Roman

00:41:21then the separation

00:41:22it's a secret

00:41:23that lasts

00:41:24all my life

00:41:25Samantha is in Rome today

00:41:26to find

00:41:27that father

00:41:28that he has never known

00:41:29and as always

00:41:30Where are you?

00:41:31he's doing it again

00:41:31Francesca Carli

00:41:56Believe the Chair

00:41:58the world anthem

00:42:00of independence

00:42:01of strength

00:42:01to get up again

00:42:02and to move on

00:42:03without ever looking back

00:42:10Samantha on stage

00:42:12he sings exactly this

00:42:13freedom

00:42:14to do it alone

00:42:15nevertheless

00:42:16his heart

00:42:16still looking for an answer

00:42:20Samantha, when and where were you born?

00:42:23Tübingen

00:42:23Germany

00:42:24September 18, 1983

00:42:29born and raised

00:42:30in Germany

00:42:31Samantha now lives in Milan

00:42:32but she came to Rome

00:42:34why is he looking for

00:42:35his father

00:42:35right in the capital

00:42:38when did you find out

00:42:40with certainty

00:42:41of not being

00:42:42the daughter

00:42:44of man

00:42:44who married

00:42:46your mother

00:42:48late

00:42:49at 26 years old

00:42:49in October

00:42:50of 2010

00:42:51you were great

00:42:53I was big

00:42:54and how did it happen?

00:42:56who told you?

00:42:57I'm going up

00:42:58in my room

00:42:59I turn on

00:43:00at the time

00:43:00I had a PC

00:43:02and there was Skype

00:43:05what time

00:43:05he disappeared

00:43:08And

00:43:09I called

00:43:10my aunt

00:43:11mom's sister

00:43:12in Germany

00:43:13her phone rings

00:43:14in the kitchen

00:43:15and he tells me

00:43:16stay here

00:43:16don't detach

00:43:18that I'm going to see

00:43:19who is

00:43:20I

00:43:21being that

00:43:21my aunt

00:43:22he told me

00:43:22not to detach

00:43:23I didn't disconnect

00:43:24and I put myself

00:43:25to dust

00:43:27and there

00:43:28I feel that

00:43:28but you to Samantha

00:43:29you have to tell him

00:43:30that he is not

00:43:31the dad

00:43:32and so

00:43:33I escaped it

00:43:35a truth

00:43:36devastating

00:43:37discovery

00:43:37in a second

00:43:38the man

00:43:39who raised her

00:43:40it's not his

00:43:41true father

00:43:42when then

00:43:43you took it back

00:43:43the line

00:43:44what did you do?

00:43:45At that time

00:43:46is

00:43:46with aunt

00:43:48saying

00:43:48I'll call you back later

00:43:50I'm going down

00:43:51and I say

00:43:52look, I know everything

00:43:53to her

00:43:54to the mother

00:43:55to your mom

00:43:56she

00:43:57a large one

00:43:58actress

00:43:58he's pretending

00:43:59not at all

00:44:00What?

00:44:01I know everything

00:44:02I heard

00:44:02the whole conversation

00:44:03because I was

00:44:03already speaking

00:44:04with the aunt

00:44:04on Skype

00:44:05and I heard

00:44:07your secret

00:44:10the wall of silence

00:44:11after 27 years

00:44:12of lies

00:44:14suddenly

00:44:14collapses

00:44:15she told me

00:44:16one thing

00:44:17not very nice

00:44:18if you hadn't discovered it

00:44:19I would never have told you

00:44:20in addition to the damage

00:44:22even the mockery

00:44:23this made me

00:44:24so bad

00:44:25you felt

00:44:25wound?

00:44:27yes because

00:44:30it's ugly

00:44:31this thing

00:44:31if I don't

00:44:32I had discovered it

00:44:33I would never have known

00:44:35that I have a father

00:44:36biological

00:44:38and why not

00:44:39it's one of mine

00:44:39should be

00:44:40a right

00:44:42so your reaction

00:44:44what was it

00:44:44at that moment?

00:44:46that he was not

00:44:47the father?

00:44:49happiness

00:44:50because you had

00:44:51a conflictual relationship

00:44:52I had nothing at all

00:44:53a good relationship

00:44:54we were arguing

00:44:55once the initial shock has passed

00:44:57for Samantha

00:44:58the necessity

00:44:59it's giving a face

00:45:00and a name

00:45:00to that biological father

00:45:01with a single

00:45:02fragile clue

00:45:03that mysterious man

00:45:05he wasn't German

00:45:06came from Italy

00:45:08to be precise

00:45:10from Rome

00:45:12what do you know

00:45:13of this story

00:45:14between these two people

00:45:15That

00:45:15Why

00:45:16explain to me

00:45:17your mother

00:45:18he spoke German

00:45:19and your dad too

00:45:20Roman

00:45:21he spoke Italian

00:45:22and how did they communicate?

00:45:24he had come to Germany

00:45:25with his brother

00:45:26like many Italians

00:45:28on the hunt

00:45:30of a job

00:45:31of a better life

00:45:33the brother

00:45:34he found a job

00:45:35in a restaurant

00:45:36and he doesn't

00:45:40Samantha's father

00:45:41can't find a job

00:45:42but meets Veronique

00:45:43Samantha's mother

00:45:45a beautiful girl

00:45:46just 17 years old

00:45:47between the two

00:45:48something happens

00:45:49of overwhelming

00:45:50a young love

00:45:51instinctive

00:45:52which transforms immediately

00:45:53on a romantic getaway

00:45:54towards Italy

00:45:55towards Rome

00:45:56a fairy tale

00:45:57but that

00:45:58it collides abruptly

00:45:59with reality

00:46:01they went on a trip

00:46:04and he told me

00:46:06the mother

00:46:07that an uncle of his

00:46:10a policeman

00:46:11or a policeman

00:46:12or a policeman

00:46:14he told her

00:46:15but he is a minor

00:46:16he can't stay here with us

00:46:18bring it back immediately

00:46:19backwards

00:46:20and the little escape

00:46:23it's over

00:46:25Samantha

00:46:26Samantha tells us

00:46:27that his mother Veronique

00:46:28he gets on the train in Rome

00:46:29to return to Germany

00:46:30without knowing she was pregnant

00:46:32without warning

00:46:33his Italian love

00:46:38Samantha

00:46:39today he manages

00:46:40a driving school

00:46:40and built

00:46:41its independence

00:46:42but there is a part of her

00:46:44who likes to shine

00:46:45under the spotlight

00:46:46I'm a singer

00:46:49and you do the evenings

00:46:51some evenings

00:46:52I do

00:46:52Yes

00:46:53in the disco

00:46:55as

00:46:56look-alike

00:46:57by Cher

00:46:58I work as a lookalike

00:47:00by Cher

00:47:00Yes

00:47:01you have a look

00:47:02practical

00:47:03he was born walking

00:47:05by chance

00:47:06many people

00:47:07abroad

00:47:08this thing started

00:47:09Amsterdam

00:47:10Cher Cher Cher

00:47:11you look like Cher

00:47:14who wouldn't want to know

00:47:16such a special daughter

00:47:19what would you like?

00:47:20that your father

00:47:20knew about you

00:47:24that he knew me

00:47:26that he discovered

00:47:26the person I am

00:47:28I am a person

00:47:29very very good

00:47:30very sensitive

00:47:31I made myself

00:47:32a thousand thoughts

00:47:34as

00:47:35but I look like him

00:47:36I just look like her

00:47:38and not to him

00:47:40a thousand questions

00:47:41I have brothers

00:47:42what kind of father is he?

00:47:44what kind of man is he?

00:47:45what kind of life did he have?

00:47:46what kind of life did he have?

00:47:47what kind of life did he have?

00:47:48you did the math

00:47:49that this man

00:47:51might not suspect

00:47:52to have

00:47:52to have a daughter

00:47:54Certain

00:47:54because he doesn't know

00:47:55that I

00:47:55as I said before

00:47:57he doesn't know that I

00:47:57I exist

00:47:59Therefore

00:47:59so you are here

00:48:00to tell him

00:48:01Yes

00:48:02I would really like that

00:48:03to know you

00:48:04but so much

00:48:05so much

00:48:06so much

00:48:08of that man

00:48:09unaware father

00:48:11after many years

00:48:11only one photo left

00:48:13an image

00:48:14that we can't

00:48:15show you in full

00:48:16but what is all that

00:48:17what remains

00:48:18in Samantha's hands

00:48:21and that photo

00:48:23How do you keep it?

00:48:24like a find?

00:48:25I framed it

00:48:26and it's in my room

00:48:28I look at him

00:48:29he looks at me

00:48:32a meeting in Tübingen

00:48:34in Germany

00:48:35in 1982

00:48:36love at first sight

00:48:38Then

00:48:38the choice to bring

00:48:40Veronique

00:48:40in Rome

00:48:41his city

00:48:42it sounds familiar to me

00:48:44this story?

00:48:44is there anyone among you

00:48:46who recognizes himself?

00:48:48I'm Samantha

00:48:49I'm 42 years old

00:48:50I was born

00:48:50September 18th

00:48:51of 1983

00:48:53in Tübingen

00:48:54in Germany

00:48:54I came here on purpose

00:48:55in Rome

00:48:56to get to know you

00:48:57Pope

00:48:58That

00:48:59in 82

00:49:01you had

00:49:02a very short one

00:49:03relation

00:49:03with my mom

00:49:05which was called

00:49:05what is called

00:49:06Veronique

00:49:07And

00:49:08you also brought it

00:49:09in Rome

00:49:10for a very short time

00:49:10period

00:49:11then being a minor

00:49:12you brought it back

00:49:13right away

00:49:14in Germany

00:49:16you met

00:49:17in Tübingen

00:49:18in an ice cream shop

00:49:19then you came back

00:49:21For

00:49:21your reasons

00:49:23family members

00:49:24and of course

00:49:25you don't know that I was born

00:49:26patatrack

00:49:28And

00:49:30I don't want anything

00:49:32I don't want to upset you

00:49:33life

00:49:33I just want to get to know you

00:49:35understand

00:49:37from whom

00:49:38I took

00:49:39who do I resemble?

00:49:40given that

00:49:42the other side

00:49:42I met her

00:49:43I miss him

00:49:44the other side

00:49:45And

00:49:46I have a curiosity

00:49:47crazy

00:49:48very strong

00:49:49Of

00:49:49to know you

00:49:50I don't want anything

00:49:51in exchange

00:49:52Alone

00:49:53to know you

00:49:57well the directions

00:49:58all the data is there

00:49:59so maybe

00:50:00you will recognize yourself

00:50:01At that time

00:50:02the mysterious

00:50:03disappearance

00:50:04of this woman

00:50:05with

00:50:05this husband

00:50:07what does he tell us?

00:50:08it's not time

00:50:09to talk

00:50:10I'll tell you later

00:50:11All

00:50:11I will take you

00:50:12in the studio

00:50:13my paintings too

00:50:14why did they have us

00:50:14amazed

00:50:15these paintings

00:50:16with women

00:50:16bloody

00:50:17in the middle of a ring

00:50:19and with all

00:50:19the crowd

00:50:21around

00:50:21who looks at them

00:50:23and he

00:50:24it is written

00:50:25in the register

00:50:26of the suspects

00:50:26for the murder

00:50:27but he always said

00:50:29that Paola

00:50:29he had accompanied her

00:50:30at the station

00:50:31that she went away

00:50:32voluntarily

00:50:33they are looking for her

00:50:34everywhere

00:50:35Neighbor

00:50:36at the Charterhouse

00:50:37and the mother

00:50:38he tells us

00:50:39with other documents

00:50:40in hand

00:50:41that she has never

00:50:42believed

00:50:42naturally

00:50:43to that disappearance

00:50:43volunteer

00:50:44because it would be

00:50:45made alive

00:50:45with her

00:50:46and he wouldn't have

00:50:47left

00:50:47Surely

00:50:48his son

00:50:49our correspondent

00:50:50Ivan Bacchi

00:50:50with Imma Giuliano

00:51:16it's a terrible image

00:51:18the one that tells us

00:51:19Paola's mother

00:51:20the daughter

00:51:21he confided in her

00:51:22to be afraid

00:51:23that her husband

00:51:23Samuel

00:51:24kill her

00:51:25drowning her

00:51:26in the water

00:51:26while he looks at her

00:51:27in the face

00:51:27he wants to look at her

00:51:29in the eyes

00:51:29while he kills her

00:51:31Paola disappears

00:51:32a few months later

00:51:33this confession

00:51:34to the mother

00:51:34and the last to see her

00:51:35It's Samuel

00:51:36what does he say?

00:51:37to have accompanied her

00:51:38to a train

00:51:38but it's not a complaint

00:51:39right away

00:51:40the disappearance

00:51:40he moved it all

00:51:41the mother

00:51:43and he

00:51:44actually

00:51:45the complaint

00:51:45he did it

00:51:45just three months later

00:51:47why did he do it

00:51:47only three months later?

00:51:49this known

00:51:51because mom

00:51:52he had already told him

00:51:52that the daughter

00:51:53she hadn't arrived there

00:51:54but he didn't go

00:51:55in Colombia

00:51:56after the complaint

00:51:57of the mother

00:51:58the Colombian consulate

00:51:59in Italy

00:52:00on mandate

00:52:00of the prosecution

00:52:01from Cartagena

00:52:02prompt

00:52:02Samuel

00:52:03to introduce himself

00:52:04in Rome

00:52:04to listen to him

00:52:05It is on this occasion

00:52:06which he explains

00:52:07why didn't he report it?

00:52:08I didn't show up

00:52:09immediately

00:52:09complaint

00:52:10of disappearance

00:52:10because he was gone

00:52:11left voluntarily

00:52:12and I had no reason

00:52:13to think

00:52:14that it had happened to her

00:52:15something

00:52:15not only

00:52:16Samuel

00:52:17also tells

00:52:17his difficulties

00:52:18conjugal with Paula

00:52:19at a certain point

00:52:20he told me

00:52:21that he didn't want anymore

00:52:22sleep with me

00:52:22and the child

00:52:23began to have

00:52:24an attitude

00:52:25negative

00:52:25towards him

00:52:26afterwards

00:52:27he told me

00:52:27who thought highly of me

00:52:28he loved me

00:52:29but he didn't love me anymore

00:52:30from that moment on

00:52:31I started to sleep

00:52:32in another room

00:52:33she changed

00:52:33after death

00:52:34of the biological father

00:52:35he was always sad

00:52:36not very concentrated

00:52:37he isolated himself

00:52:38he spoke little

00:52:39and scolded

00:52:40often the child

00:52:41the portrait

00:52:42which provides us

00:52:43Samuel

00:52:43and of the relationship

00:52:44of his wife

00:52:44and Paula

00:52:45with their son

00:52:46it's very different

00:52:46from that

00:52:47that we have rebuilt

00:52:48talking to some

00:52:49witnesses of the place

00:52:50who have known

00:52:51Paula

00:52:51in the previous months

00:52:52the disappearance

00:52:53she was a mother

00:52:54affectionate

00:52:54very close

00:52:56to this son

00:52:56yes yes of course

00:52:57he would never have left her

00:52:59I remember very well

00:53:00that she was

00:53:02type was

00:53:03early October

00:53:04mid-October

00:53:05no more

00:53:06and she had come

00:53:07from us

00:53:08precisely because

00:53:08we had recommended it to her

00:53:10in short

00:53:10do the evening show

00:53:11this pedagogical psychosocio

00:53:14and it was gone

00:53:15to collect

00:53:15all documents

00:53:16to be able to

00:53:17to register

00:53:18because she wanted

00:53:19then study

00:53:20to be able to take care of

00:53:21of the children

00:53:22essentially

00:53:23as an educator

00:53:24Yes

00:53:25but Samuel

00:53:26continue to support

00:53:27his thesis

00:53:28he never succeeded

00:53:28to establish with him

00:53:29a close relationship

00:53:30like that

00:53:31that I had

00:53:31I think that sometimes

00:53:32she was even jealous

00:53:34of this bond

00:53:34in short, Samuel's thesis

00:53:36it's simple

00:53:37voluntary departure

00:53:38she didn't love me anymore

00:53:40and the child

00:53:40he loved me more

00:53:41because of this

00:53:42she would have gone away

00:53:43alone

00:53:44but where did you go?

00:53:45he claims

00:53:46it's gone

00:53:47in a specific place

00:53:48lean mouth

00:53:49in the province of La Spezia

00:53:50because he had obtained

00:53:51a test of work

00:53:52the next day

00:53:53to have been heard

00:53:54in Rome

00:53:55Samuel goes

00:53:56at the Lucca police headquarters

00:53:57to report

00:53:58finally

00:53:58Paula's disappearance

00:53:59confirming the same things

00:54:01already given to the consulate

00:54:02reiterates that he accompanied

00:54:03Paula at the station

00:54:05why he had to take

00:54:05a train

00:54:06to go to La Spezia

00:54:07for a job

00:54:07but on both occasions

00:54:09does not ask for important information

00:54:11who commissioned

00:54:12this work

00:54:13to Paula?

00:54:14Samuel

00:54:15he knows where he was going

00:54:16his wife

00:54:16but not by whom

00:54:17the client of the work

00:54:19it is unknown

00:54:20does anyone remember

00:54:21of having contacted

00:54:22Paula

00:54:22for a job

00:54:23lean mouth

00:54:24in La Spezia

00:54:25in November 2012

00:54:26as Samuel claims?

00:54:28after these statements

00:54:29the man was investigated

00:54:30a first time

00:54:31in 2014

00:54:32for the murder

00:54:33and the concealment

00:54:33of Paula's corpse

00:54:34on that occasion

00:54:35he was kidnapped

00:54:36Samuel's computer

00:54:37and was perlostrated

00:54:38the whole house

00:54:39and the surrounding land

00:54:42subsequently

00:54:42a report

00:54:43gives a new impetus

00:54:44to the investigations

00:54:45a confidential source

00:54:46he contacted

00:54:47the chief inspector

00:54:47reporting having seen

00:54:48some time before

00:54:49Samuel

00:54:50stopped along the road

00:54:51which leads

00:54:51in the town of Formentale

00:54:53at the entrance

00:54:53of a mountain gorge

00:54:54located nearby

00:54:55of his home

00:54:56he was with a vehicle

00:54:57to pepper

00:54:58owned

00:54:58of the Farneta Charterhouse

00:55:00and was in possession

00:55:01of a pickaxe

00:55:01and a hoe

00:55:03the indicated throat

00:55:04from the source

00:55:05it was searched

00:55:06but nothing

00:55:07it was found

00:55:08the point to which it refers

00:55:09the anonymous source

00:55:10it's the same

00:55:11in which they were

00:55:11carry out new research

00:55:13here we are

00:55:14Exactly

00:55:15a curve

00:55:16after the house

00:55:17where Paula lived

00:55:18with Samuel

00:55:19and this gully

00:55:21which in reality

00:55:21he goes towards the house

00:55:23it was all

00:55:24scouted

00:55:25by law enforcement

00:55:27in 2015

00:55:28after the investigations

00:55:29are archived

00:55:30the mother reports

00:55:31of having had

00:55:31a telephone conversation

00:55:33with Samuel

00:55:34in which he claims

00:55:35that Paula

00:55:35she may have been kidnapped

00:55:37from a rich man

00:55:38I think it's gone

00:55:39to work

00:55:40with a very rich man

00:55:41I suspect

00:55:42that it's over

00:55:43in one round trip

00:55:44of human beings

00:55:44and that they took her away

00:55:47Rosalba is incredulous

00:55:48why Samuel

00:55:49he didn't say it before

00:55:50but he's only saying it now

00:55:51I didn't tell him

00:55:52because I thought

00:55:53that he wouldn't believe me

00:55:54I knelt down

00:55:55in front of her

00:55:56crying

00:55:56and begging her

00:55:57not to do it

00:55:58telling her

00:55:58which was very dangerous

00:56:00for Rosalba

00:56:01these are statements

00:56:02late

00:56:02and which contradict

00:56:03what he

00:56:04he always said

00:56:05that is, to have it

00:56:05accompanied

00:56:06at the station

00:56:07for a job

00:56:07lean mouth

00:56:08with spice

00:56:09lies

00:56:10and more lies

00:56:11this is what Rosalba claims

00:56:12Samuel

00:56:13for her

00:56:13mind

00:56:14him today

00:56:15he is under investigation again

00:56:16for the murder

00:56:17and the concealment

00:56:17of the corpse

00:56:18of his wife

00:56:18he is a shy man

00:56:20and reserved

00:56:20he doesn't like to be seen

00:56:21in the face

00:56:22when we met him

00:56:23he has always tried

00:56:24to hide

00:56:25and he doesn't want to talk

00:56:26and where did it end up?

00:56:28I can't tell you

00:56:30I will speak in due time

00:56:31or not now

00:56:32it's not the time now

00:56:34you don't understand the times

00:56:35this is not the time

00:56:36OK

00:56:37when will this time be?

00:56:39they will tell me

00:56:40the police

00:56:41and the lawyers

00:56:42and I will call you

00:56:42and I will come to you

00:56:44he looks like a religious man

00:56:45and in fact

00:56:46he was in seclusion

00:56:47in the Farneta Charterhouse

00:56:48as a novice

00:56:49for about eight years

00:56:50and today

00:56:51he's the jack of all trades

00:56:52of the Carthusian friars

00:56:53he manages everything

00:56:54because he manages

00:56:55all the priests

00:56:56he has hands

00:56:58and the keys in hand

00:56:59he makes the meals

00:57:00think of everything

00:57:01him

00:57:01All

00:57:02if he has

00:57:04animal

00:57:05cultivation

00:57:06All

00:57:06he does everything

00:57:07if a priest dies he

00:57:09he it

00:57:09he does

00:57:10he digs

00:57:11and puts it in

00:57:12this is what he does

00:57:14I know

00:57:14I know for sure

00:57:16Why

00:57:16he told us about it

00:57:18Samuel is also a painter

00:57:20in many

00:57:21they saw the paintings

00:57:22who paints

00:57:22they are singular

00:57:24these paintings

00:57:24they exist

00:57:25they are on the floor above

00:57:26it's all one wall

00:57:27a whole wall like this

00:57:28these are the paintings

00:57:29where the corpses are

00:57:31of the cadene

00:57:32he drew these chains

00:57:33on these walls

00:57:34the chained women

00:57:36down to earth

00:57:37that he called them

00:57:38who were prostitutes

00:57:39these

00:57:40but they were all

00:57:40with blood

00:57:42death

00:57:43All

00:57:43him

00:57:43the species of the drawings

00:57:45these are

00:57:46we showed you one

00:57:48we recreated it

00:57:49starting from the description

00:57:50from an eyewitness

00:57:51there is a man sitting

00:57:53towards a ring

00:57:53put on the gloves

00:57:55he just won

00:57:56his meeting

00:57:57in the ring

00:57:58there's already a woman lying there

00:57:59face down

00:58:00we don't know

00:58:01if she died

00:58:01but it loses blood

00:58:02from the private parts

00:58:03on the four sides

00:58:05Samuel drew

00:58:06four huge ones

00:58:06male members

00:58:07then there are the spectators

00:58:09all men

00:58:10who with a hungry look

00:58:11they assist

00:58:12an allegorical scene

00:58:13what it represents

00:58:15this image

00:58:16it's not the only painting

00:58:17which left me perplexed

00:58:18our witness

00:58:19there are many others

00:58:20and protagonists

00:58:21they are often women

00:58:22chained

00:58:23and bleeding

00:58:24we contacted

00:58:26Paula's sister

00:58:27Yesenia

00:58:27and she too

00:58:28tell us about these paintings

00:58:30what little we know

00:58:55of Samuel's report

00:58:56with women

00:58:56they are some of his confidences

00:58:58epistolary

00:58:58right to the sister

00:59:00Yesenia

00:59:00dated May 2013

00:59:02six months later

00:59:03Paula's disappearance

00:59:04me alone

00:59:05I can't stay

00:59:06but the problem

00:59:08is to meet

00:59:08a good girl

00:59:09they're looking for me here

00:59:10many women

00:59:11but they are not needed

00:59:12they just want to have fun

00:59:14and go around

00:59:15and spend little time with the family

00:59:16and again

00:59:17Paola is crazy

00:59:19I can't believe it

00:59:19that he left me

00:59:20without wanting to

00:59:21see the child

00:59:23with him today

00:59:24a woman lives

00:59:25with his children

00:59:25and they live

00:59:26in the same house

00:59:27where once

00:59:28there was Paula

00:59:28On the contrary

00:59:29it also seems

00:59:30that this knowledge

00:59:31it has begun

00:59:32before Paula

00:59:33disappeared

00:59:33he was dating

00:59:35that are there

00:59:35the chats

00:59:36all these things

00:59:37on Facebook

00:59:38everything is there

00:59:39that he is

00:59:39he was chatting

00:59:40with this person

00:59:41which then

00:59:43right away

00:59:43almost immediately

00:59:44he put it

00:59:45inside the house

00:59:46with these children

00:59:47what does she have?

00:59:47to date

00:59:49Paola is still

00:59:49disappearance

00:59:50of her they are lost

00:59:51the tracks

00:59:52but not

00:59:53at Lucca station

00:59:54where Samuel claims

00:59:55of having seen her

00:59:55for the last time

00:59:56but at home

00:59:57his phone

00:59:58stops working

00:59:59in the farmhouse

01:00:00on the road to Formentale

01:00:02on a date

01:00:02on horseback

01:00:03between the 22nd

01:00:04and November 23rd

01:00:05because of this

01:00:06the investigators

01:00:07they looked for her

01:00:07there and in the surrounding areas

01:00:09and they don't look for

01:00:10a living person

01:00:10but a body

01:00:11that in many

01:00:12today they believe

01:00:13may be found

01:00:14buried

01:00:14inside the charterhouse

01:00:20look

01:00:21you are watching it

01:00:22you too

01:00:22you are writing it

01:00:23in this story

01:00:24there is a son

01:00:25and be the aunt

01:00:27that the grandmother

01:00:27they tell us

01:00:28we would really like it

01:00:29see it

01:00:30we would have liked to see it

01:00:32but there was

01:00:33prevented

01:00:34somehow

01:00:34they say

01:00:35that the dad

01:00:36he moved away

01:00:37this boy

01:00:38from them

01:00:39so we are here

01:00:40we would like to act as an intermediary

01:00:41if this boy

01:00:42you can come forward

01:00:44because you will hear it

01:00:45even from the sister

01:00:46Really

01:00:46there is the desire

01:00:48to talk to him

01:00:49let's hear from the sister

01:00:50by Paola

01:00:52you believe that

01:00:54what does he say about Paola?

01:00:55that she's gone?

01:00:56No

01:00:57no ma'am

01:00:58it's a lie

01:00:59we want to know where

01:01:01where he keeps my sister

01:01:02what did he do to the body

01:01:04that tells the truth

01:01:05my mother too

01:01:06he wants to ask him

01:01:07what did he do

01:01:07to his daughter

01:01:08do you know if he

01:01:09was he threatening her?

01:01:11Yes, of course

01:01:12he threatened her

01:01:13and she told me

01:01:14who was afraid

01:01:15of that man

01:01:15because he had told her

01:01:16that would have killed her

01:01:17that would have killed her

01:01:19that would have drowned her

01:01:20in the water

01:01:21she was scared

01:01:22did he hurt her?

01:01:24Certain

01:01:25he must have done something to her

01:01:26my sister

01:01:27because we don't have

01:01:28more news about her

01:01:30he never allows us

01:01:31to have contacts

01:01:32with the child

01:01:33our nephew

01:01:34Why?

01:01:35what is he hiding?

01:01:37why what is going on?

01:01:39what relationship did he have?

01:01:40Paola with her son?

01:01:41my sister

01:01:43with his son

01:01:44she was a mother

01:01:45very devoted

01:01:46Certain

01:01:47so much so that

01:01:48when that man

01:01:49he tells me

01:01:49that my sister

01:01:50she's gone

01:01:50and he abandoned

01:01:51his son

01:01:51I said

01:01:52what would it be like

01:01:53it didn't fit into my head

01:01:55that could have

01:01:56abandon it

01:01:57do you know where he is now?

01:02:00No

01:02:01I don't know where it is

01:02:02my nephew now

01:02:03we lost contact

01:02:05with him for many years

01:02:06and yet he is our nephew

01:02:08we love it

01:02:10my mother and I

01:02:11we want Samuel

01:02:12tell us where my sister is

01:02:13and we want to have

01:02:14face to face with him

01:02:15me and my mother personally

01:02:17to talk to him

01:02:18ask him why

01:02:20he never showed himself

01:02:21never

01:02:21why is he hiding

01:02:24my mother

01:02:25he wants to know about his daughter

01:02:27it's not an animal

01:02:28even animals

01:02:30they have people

01:02:31that protect them

01:02:32he is even more right

01:02:33should be defended

01:02:34my sister

01:02:41we are in Caserta

01:02:42Hassan has lost

01:02:44his phone

01:02:45file a complaint

01:02:46to the police

01:02:46becomes unreachable

01:02:48and disappears

01:02:48his brother

01:02:51Hassan

01:02:52Excuse me

01:02:52the brother

01:02:53Isham

01:02:54he is the missing one

01:02:55his brother Hassan

01:02:56he turned to us

01:02:57because I really am

01:02:59so worried

01:03:00we hear his appeal

01:03:02I'm here to do

01:03:03this appeal

01:03:04regard

01:03:04the disappearance

01:03:05of my brother

01:03:07at 33 years old

01:03:08is called

01:03:09Usni Isham

01:03:10the last time

01:03:12that I heard it

01:03:12he had told me

01:03:13which was located

01:03:14in Caserta

01:03:14in Franculisi

01:03:15a country

01:03:16near Caserta

01:03:16and he often went

01:03:18also in Naples

01:03:19on April 28th

01:03:21we lost

01:03:23contact on him

01:03:24no response

01:03:25we tried

01:03:26all ways

01:03:27to call him

01:03:28social

01:03:28we tried

01:03:30on calling him

01:03:30on WhatsApp

01:03:31normal phone calls

01:03:32nothing to do

01:03:33we are very worried

01:03:35for him

01:03:36my parents too

01:03:36they are very worried

01:03:38I kindly ask

01:03:39if someone

01:03:39he saw it

01:03:40or have any news

01:03:41about him

01:03:42he broke

01:03:43to contact

01:03:45the editorial staff

01:03:45A thousand thanks

01:03:49let's help this brother

01:03:50see you soon

01:03:51after this short break

01:04:03Albert needs

01:04:04of your help

01:04:05and this is his

01:04:06incredible story

01:04:12this Dutch man

01:04:14it is located in Palermo

01:04:15but his

01:04:15it's much more

01:04:16of a simple holiday

01:04:17in Sicily

01:04:18Hi, I'm Albert.

01:04:21I was born in Amsterdam

01:04:22in January 1962

01:04:24now I'm here in Palermo

01:04:26because I am of origin

01:04:27Italian-Dutch

01:04:28and my biological father

01:04:29that I have never known

01:04:30it was from here

01:04:33Albert has grown up

01:04:34only child

01:04:35beloved

01:04:36from Mom Annie

01:04:36a beautiful woman

01:04:38Dutch

01:04:38born in 1932

01:04:40Annie

01:04:41between 1960

01:04:42and 1961

01:04:44he takes a trip

01:04:45in Sicily

01:04:45there he meets a man

01:04:47but shortly after

01:04:48must start again

01:04:50my mother is back

01:04:51from Sicily

01:04:52who was pregnant

01:04:53and gave birth

01:04:53in Amsterdam

01:04:55Annie

01:04:56she disappeared

01:04:57prematurely

01:04:58at only 52 years old

01:04:59bringing with him

01:05:00that secret

01:05:01and not revealing

01:05:02never to the son

01:05:03the identity

01:05:04of that Italian love

01:05:07I only know that my father

01:05:08he was from Palermo

01:05:09and that played

01:05:10in a band

01:05:10I'm 64 now

01:05:12and at such a great distance

01:05:13here I am looking for it

01:05:15I only have about him

01:05:16a small photo

01:05:17in Albert's hands

01:05:19there is only one clue

01:05:20an old photograph

01:05:22but that

01:05:22we can't show you

01:05:24in full

01:05:24but maybe

01:05:26the love story

01:05:27in Palermo

01:05:27in the early 60s

01:05:28between a Dutch girl

01:05:30and a musician

01:05:31to some of you

01:05:32he says something

01:05:37here we see it

01:05:38who is having fun

01:05:39with his nephew

01:05:39but some of you

01:05:41can help

01:05:41Albert

01:05:43Dutch

01:05:43in whose veins

01:05:44does Sicilian blood flow?

01:05:47I would really like that

01:05:48so much to get in touch

01:05:49with part

01:05:50of my family

01:05:51so if you can

01:05:52help me

01:05:53I would be really grateful to you

01:05:54I really am

01:05:55very curious

01:05:56Until we meet again

01:06:02I leave you as always

01:06:03the important news

01:06:05of Tg3

01:06:05night line

01:06:06this evening

01:06:06with ours

01:06:07and the air captains

01:06:08and as always

01:06:09we'll see each other

01:06:10next Wednesday

01:06:11Until we meet again

01:06:11HI

2026.06.24 - Chi l'ha visto _ Puntata intera - 2a Parte

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