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01:12So let's start right away with Rosa's story, because Rosa is 15 years old, she has to go to school, to school
01:18he doesn't get there, we are in Sant'Antimo, the alarm goes off immediately,
01:22the parents immediately think of a man, a man older than her, a Pakistani, who not only has her
01:28plagiarized her, maybe he even kidnapped her.
01:31Our correspondent Giuseppe Pizzo with Paolo Orzucci.
01:40This girl is Rosa, she is 15 years old, we see her in this video shot with a cell phone, while she dances and
01:47he's having fun with his brother in his bedroom.
01:52But for a month and a half there has been only silence in his room, because Rosa has disappeared, she cannot be found
01:59more.
01:59My daughter has definitely been kidnapped, please help us.
02:04But who kidnapped the girl? And for what reason?
02:08Rosa lives in Sant'Antimo, a town 15 kilometers from Naples.
02:12With her father Luigi, her mother, who is called like her, Rosa, and her two brothers.
02:17His father is a hard worker, his mother is a housewife and they do everything to make their children happy.
02:23children.
02:24A normal family, made up of good people.
02:27Rosa has always been the darling of the house, the little princess, pampered and loved.
02:33And in this family everything goes on normally, until 2015, when something happens that changes everything.
02:40It was just two years ago that I noticed that my daughter was no longer going out with her friends as usual,
02:45who used to wear shorts like little girls, short t-shirts.
02:50He saw that she didn't do it anymore, she dressed completely covered, even in the middle of summer.
02:56He always went to sleep at the same time, at nine.
02:58My daughter didn't eat meat anymore, she didn't want to eat anything anymore.
03:02And then he began, or you see, I noticed, he began to read the Koran.
03:07Rosa is only 13 years old and from one day to the next she decides to stop eating meat.
03:13She covers her face with a veil and begins reading the Koran.
03:16But why all this?
03:18Why does a girl born and raised in a Catholic family start reading the Quran?
03:23What happened in his life?
03:25Who is Rosa dating?
03:27The answer comes from a friend of the girl.
03:30Through this friend, who gives me a confirmation, who was chatting with an adult
03:35and he said, look madam, your daughter is chatting with a person who is an old man.
03:39I was talking to my daughter and she said, no mom, that's not true.
03:43The person chatting with Rosa is not an old man, but a boy of Pakistani origin,
03:48She is 28 years old and her name is Alika Zib.
03:51He lives in Brescia, 800 kilometers from Sant'Antimo.
03:54It is he who convinces Rosa to cover her face and change her lifestyle.
03:59But soon, Rosa's father discovers the whole truth.
04:03And it's a terrible and painful truth for a parent.
04:06The father finds out that Alika Zib asks his daughter, who is only 13 years old,
04:11to pose and take some very special selfies and send them to him.
04:16In return, he sends the girl these photos.
04:20Look at them, they make an impression.
04:22In one, Alika Zib holds guns.
04:25In another, his face is covered.
04:27Why, Casib, are you sending Rosa these photos?
04:30Did he want to scare her?
04:32I went, let's say, to investigate, to see, to check,
04:36phones, computers, everything else.
04:38Actually, only the phone, because from the computer it didn't do anything.
04:42I noticed that my daughter had a chat, Whatsapp.
04:47Rosa's parents, after having viewed the content of the messages between Rosa and Alika Zib,
04:52they decide to go to the police and report everything.
04:55The complaint was made in September 2015, if I'm not mistaken.
05:00But the complaint from Rosa's parents doesn't stop Alika Zib.
05:04One day, Rosa leaves her cell phone at home.
05:07When it rings, the mother goes to answer it.
05:10It's a man's voice, he's telling her something terrible.
05:13I'm going to answer that day.
05:16And he said to me, a very strange voice, I will take your daughter.
05:19I, in tears, called up my husband.
05:22And he immediately sent himself to the police.
05:25The parents are convinced that the man on the phone was Alika Zib.
05:30And this alarms them even more.
05:32So they decide to report him to the police once again.
05:36But it was in October 2016 that the most serious event occurred.
05:39Alika Zib, from Brescia, goes to Sant'Antimo and meets Rosa.
05:43Let us remember that she is a minor.
05:45At that meeting, Kazib takes pictures of Rosa.
05:48Days later, the girl's friends saw those images and alerted the teachers.
05:54The girl's father is summoned to school.
05:56I learned about this through school, through some friends,
06:04who showed and told me certain things in the presence of the teachers,
06:11who immediately sent for me.
06:13And I immediately raised the alarm again.
06:17I filed a complaint immediately.
06:21Serious things, the father tells us.
06:23Things happened right after Rosa met Alika Zib in Sant'Antimo.
06:27A friend of the girl was also at that meeting.
06:30We understand that you went out with Rosa one day, right?
06:34Yes.
06:35And what did you meet?
06:38No, you can say that, calmly.
06:40Without saying it happened.
06:42What did you meet?
06:43To Pakistan.
06:44And when they met what did he do there?
06:48He hugged her.
06:50Rosa tells her father about the serious events that occurred at that meeting.
06:54The father once again turns to the police.
06:58My daughter was also heard where she made, I don't know, an acknowledgement,
07:04whatever it is, also because I wasn't there, because they made me go out,
07:07I don't know what's wrong with them, in the presence of a psychologist.
07:11And where, I don't know, my daughter recognized this person.
07:19Rosa told investigators that she was scared, frightened, and felt forced to comply with Ali Kasib's wishes.
07:27She said that she was forced to behave in a certain way, whatever it was, also because if she didn't do this
07:37What,
07:39He threatened to kill her, he threatened to hurt my wife, me, the family basically.
07:52After the complaint, in November, the police went to Ali Kasib's home in Brescia.
07:57But it's too late, he's not there and nobody knows where he's gone.
08:03Six months later, on Wednesday 24 May, Rosa disappears.
08:09Here, this is Rosa's house.
08:12That morning, the morning of her disappearance, Rosa leaves this house to go to school,
08:16right here in front, it's that grey gate we see here in the background.
08:22So Rosa has to walk this short distance, it will be 100 meters, to go to school.
08:32So, a few meters from Rosa's house to the school, which is this one, and then the girl's tracks are lost.
08:43That day, Rosa's cell phone was turned off at 9:40 in Naples, near Piazza Garibaldi.
08:50Where did Rosa take a train to go?
08:54Is it possible that she is dating Ali Kasib?
08:57We went to look for her at Ali's house in Brescia.
09:00Since November, he left, I don't know where he went, because I made him fight,
09:09because there is something, a problem with the stitching, and then he went.
09:14When we went to Brescia, we looked for Ali Kasib in other places too.
09:20More than a month has passed since Rosa disappeared.
09:23Has anyone seen it?
09:24Alone or in the company of Ali Kasib?
09:27We're not sure if they're together.
09:30We only know that they are both missing, and that there are two parents destroyed by grief,
09:35because they don't know what happened to their little Rosa.
09:38I would like to make an appeal to all these people who are in chat and make criticisms, as they say, they make the
09:45bickering, the father, the mother, they couldn't see before, now they cry what they want.
09:52Do you want to put the time back in my place?
09:56I did everything.
09:59I checked it from the first moment.
10:04I spied on my daughter on her phones, I followed her, when she went out I followed her, I kept an eye on her.
10:14It's not true that we didn't do anything.
10:16I moved from the beginning, we moved from the beginning.
10:19So don't think we didn't do anything about it.
10:26More than a month has passed since the day she disappeared.
10:30Rosa, where is she?
10:32Why doesn't he call his parents?
10:35Rosa, I miss you so much and we all miss you so much.
10:39Please Rosa, come home, I can't take it anymore, but whatever happened we forgive you
10:45and I forgive you.
10:46I miss you so much, I miss everyday life, I miss you, my love.
10:52And we also miss your little brother who played every day.
10:57I miss you mom, you know that mom is not very well, as you know.
11:02Please, let me hug you again.
11:05Come home, my love, please.
11:09I can't take it anymore, love.
11:11Nothing happened.
11:13I just want to hug you.
11:15Go back to your family because it's very sad here without you.
11:19I can't take it anymore.
11:30You know Daniele Potenzioni all about him, this boy who disappeared from Rome was supposed to go to the Pope's audience.
11:37accompanied by nurses he is on the subway and disappears into thin air.
11:41The first hearing of the trial was held yesterday because a nurse is on trial for abandonment of an incompetent person.
11:49But we still want to show you his photograph.
11:53Father Franco has launched so many appeals but we still haven't found him.
11:59Consider that it was June 10, 2015, he disappeared from Rome, I repeat.
12:05This is the subway, these are Daniele's last images.
12:08You see him, he puts his hand in his pocket, a pair of blue jeans and he seems to have someone, some viewers said
12:16but he has a cell phone in his hand. No, unfortunately he doesn't have a cell phone.
12:19What happens after these images? Is the subway coming?
12:23It's a special day, there were strikes, then the Pope's audience, in short, a truly special day.
12:30Does Daniele Potenzioni enter the subway or not?
12:35The problem that is practically lost, the others in the group, the nurses, the companions immediately go to look for it,
12:44the alarm goes off a bit badly too because for example we are told about clothes that he instead
12:50he doesn't have.
12:50Now you can see him perfectly as he is dressed but the fact is that he still hasn't been found.
12:57What could have happened to Daniele Potenzioni who is 36 years old, 1.8 m tall, with shaved hair and
13:04brown eyes?
13:05Obviously, regarding his illness, there is only this to say: that a person is certainly in difficulty.
13:12Dad used to tell us that when it was winter, if it rained, he would stand in the rain and wait for hours and hours.
13:18that someone goes there and takes him by the hand and takes him home.
13:23Where is Daniele Potenzioni? Help us.
13:27Between life and death, this is exactly how the beautiful and young Sissi finds herself when she finds Mazza,
13:33the prison police officer who was found in a pool of blood near death in the corridor
13:40and the elevator of the Venice hospital.
13:44She had gone there for a check-up, there is a prisoner who has just given birth, she greets her, checks a caress to the
13:52newborn,
13:52Then a shot goes off. What happened to Sissi after Mazza was found?
13:57Our correspondent Claudia Aldi with Paolo Sortino.
14:43It starts here, from this elevator in the Venice Civil Hospital.
14:48Sissi's other life found Mazza.
14:52The one that for eight months and four days has seen the young and beautiful prison police officer standing still, immobile, in
15:00a hospital bed.
15:02In balance, just like in this photo where he smiles happily, but unfortunately, now, between life and death.
15:12A bullet pierced her skull and she, an agent in the Giudecca district of Venice and a promising goalkeeper in football
15:20female, she never woke up again.
15:22And still, after all this time, no one knows how and why that shot came from his service pistol.
15:30Did Sissi pull the trigger?
15:34Or did someone else shoot her in the head?
15:38Questions still unanswered.
15:54Here is Sissi, the princess between the posts, as they call her in Tauria Nova, the Calabrian city where she was born
16:00and it grew.
16:01Because Sissi, in addition to wearing the uniform, is a goalkeeper in Serie A for passion and that number one of the
16:08he always wears the shirt, even when he's off the pitch.
16:18Here she is, very elegant, catching the bouquet thrown by her friend who just got married.
16:24His dive deserved a penalty, and then, following it up, the contagious Allegri.
16:31This is Sissi, 28 years old, beautiful, funny, elegant.
16:3628 years old, turned 28 on June 10th, less than a month ago.
16:40And this year, for the first time, we went without a celebration.
16:46Sissi, always smiling, always with a song to sing, just like that, out of the blue.
16:52My head, my head, my head goes, no signorino, no signorino, no signorino.
17:15Go ahead anyway, even when you feel like you're dying, so as not to stay and do nothing, waiting for the end.
17:28Anyway, go, even just to understand, or not to understand each other.
17:37How much happiness and how much desire to live.
17:40That's why no one believes she fired that damned gunshot.
17:46Parents don't believe it, siblings don't believe it, friends don't believe it.
17:51Not even his teachers believe it.
17:54Listen to what they told us when we went to visit them in their house in Taurianova.
17:58I could describe Sissi in two words, I would say great beauty, I would say a beautiful sunny day, I would say her smile.
18:07It is simply not acceptable to call Sissi depressed.
18:10It's not true in the slightest and I don't believe it.
18:14That she did such a thing, no, without a doubt.
18:19We need to shed some light.
18:20I would like to make an appeal, if possible, to all the people who were in hospital that day, but also to the
18:27Sissi's friends, those from Venice.
18:31If anyone knows that you are speaking, even anonymously, even to the editorial staff of those who have seen it.
18:38But do something because you can't be an ignoble man, you can't.
18:43This is Sissi.
18:45Aida, the teacher, also brought the class photos with her.
18:49From when Sissi was her little student.
18:52And since those times, those with the apron and the bow, they have never lost sight of each other again.
18:57When I heard the news, I felt really bad, because for all the teachers, but especially for me, that
19:05I have no children.
19:07That is, the students are truly children.
19:09Then I repeat, there was a special relationship with Sissi.
19:13Think about it, I've been working for 35 years, how many students I've had.
19:16But someone always remains in the heart.
19:21But let's go back to November 1st.
19:23It's a Tuesday.
19:24And Sissi is asked by her superiors to change a shift and go to the hospital to check on a
19:30prisoner who has just become a mother.
19:33It seems like an ordinary day at work.
19:35Sissi goes to the hospital, checks that everything is okay, starts playing with the little girl, then says goodbye and
19:42he's leaving.
19:43But instead of leaving the hospital directly, Sissi slips into one of the elevators.
19:48And there she was found, shortly after, at the end of her life.
19:52What happened in the minutes before the shooting?
19:56Let's reconstruct those moments.
20:00Sissi leaves the pediatrics ward where the woman is located to breastfeed on the ground floor of the pavilion.
20:06To return to the boat she took to the hospital, Sissi must exit through this glass door.
20:14But instead he takes the opposite direction and heads towards the elevators and stairs that lead to the upper floors.
20:23The only camera is located in the pavilion's atrium.
20:26You see it in frame and it can film Sissi from the exit of the pediatrics ward up to this door.
20:32What happens next remains a mystery.
20:36Investigators write that after various recorded passages starting from 11.07,
20:42Sissi is last seen on camera at 11.17am.
20:47She is alone and after three minutes she is found close to death, in the elevator.
20:54Was Sissi really alone in the elevator where she was found dying, or was there someone else there?
21:01Someone who was already inside the hospital and who made an appointment with you?
21:05Or that the call after having followed it, arriving at the elevators, right from the stairs and thus disappointing the electronic eye?
21:13The cameras, who else did they film that morning?
21:18While waiting for answers from the judiciary, Salvatore and his family immediately began to move on their own,
21:26in search of the truth.
21:28In this video, Salvatore, together with Patrizia, his youngest daughter,
21:33and to one of the two lawyers who are following him in this dramatic story,
21:37takes measurements and studies trajectories inside the elevator where Sissi was found at the point of death.
21:45Show us the cameras, the movements that took place in the hospital, that day, the day before.
21:51We're in the dark about everything. Why do we have to force things every time?
21:54Why do you have to set us aside? What is the reason you set us aside?
21:58Why do you set aside what we have a right to know?
22:03Even the reconstruction by the prosecution doesn't make sense to Sissi's family,
22:08about how their beloved daughter would try to end it all.
22:11From what I see with my own eyes now, Sissi's wounds are right on her head,
22:19so they don't touch times, they don't touch other parts of the body.
22:22How did Sissi do this?
22:25Then there is another mystery and it concerns Sissi's gun.
22:30According to the first medical report, drawn up at 11.55 that morning in the emergency room of the civil hospital,
22:37the gun was on the ground.
22:40While at 1.06pm, when Sissi was transferred and admitted to the Angelo hospital in Mestre,
22:46the report speaks of a gun in the right hand.
22:50Look, how is this possible?
22:52But there's more.
23:00From the shots taken by the forensic team in the elevator,
23:03the gun is even found on the opposite side to that indicated by the prosecution in its reconstructions,
23:09and that is in the left part of the elevator.
23:14Why did it end there?
23:15Did any rescuers support her?
23:17And before, then, where was it?
23:20In Sissi's hand or on the ground?
23:22Sissi's parents wait and demand answers,
23:26because they believe that things went differently,
23:30that Sissi was attacked and that someone wanted to harm her.
23:36What kind of world did my daughter Claudia live in?
23:38Can someone explain this to me?
23:40What kind of world did my daughter live in?
23:42My daughter was a sunny girl.
23:45Why is he in that bed, in those conditions?
23:48Can someone explain it to me?
23:52I do not know.
23:55Is this normal?
23:57I do not know.
24:00I have to understand this.
24:02I have to ignore what happened to my daughter.
24:05My daughter was a state employee,
24:07of the Italian State, if it can be called that.
24:10I have to ignore what happened to my daughter.
24:12We can't take it anymore.
24:13My family is destroyed, my family is totally destroyed, not like this.
24:17We don't know where to go.
24:20Salvatore and Caterina ask the judiciary to investigate in other directions as well.
24:25In Sissi's private life, she is in the Giudecca prison.
24:29Because Sissi, shortly before November 1st,
24:32she had told very serious things both at home and to her friends.
24:37Things that have already been reported to the judiciary.
24:41Listen to what Sissi said to one of her dearest friends
24:45one of the last times she returned to Calabria.
24:48Sissi had shown me some photos on her cell phone
24:52where on his body were seen libido, scratches
24:58and also some messages from a person
25:01that in any case one could read so much anger, so much hatred, so much envy.
25:08Who is the person the friend is talking about?
25:11And do those photos and messages have anything to do with what happened to Sissi?
25:16Or is it in Sissi's working life that the truth should be sought?
25:20In what Sissi had told at home instead?
25:24Sissi, when she goes to Calabria in October,
25:26she tells her father that she has been reached by a call
25:29for having tried to report, inside the prison,
25:32a relationship between one of her colleagues and an inmate.
25:36She learned about it through the confidence of two other inmates.
25:45An ugly story that shakes the cells of the Giudecca.
25:50Several are listened to and among these there is also Manuela Cacco,
25:54who is behind bars for the murder of Isabella 90,
25:58like Freddy Sorgato and his sister Deborah.
26:02A colleague of Sissi, who confirms her complaint,
26:05she is transferred to another facility within a few hours.
26:09Sissi, however, receives a letter of warning.
26:13A disciplinary measure that adds to a previous one,
26:17arrived at the end of summer.
26:19The commander reported to her,
26:21because she, who works in the prison accounting office,
26:25he delivered the delay of the practices.
26:27For this reason Sissi turned to a trade unionist.
26:31He too, a prison officer,
26:33who works in the Due Palazzi prison in Padua.
26:36Yes, we knew it and we were also dealing with it
26:40of a last service problem he had had.
26:43He was accused of being late on some procedures,
26:46but nothing serious, in short.
26:48Easily disassembled,
26:49there were no well-founded accusations, so to speak,
26:53in short, on a solid basis.
26:56A little too short to fit inside the elevator
26:58of a hospital and suddenly,
27:01during a service,
27:02decide to try to take your own life?
27:05Yes, definitely.
27:07But then, what happened to Sissi?
27:11Perhaps other confidences have something to do with it?
27:14what had the twenty-eight-year-old done to her parents?
27:16Because Sissi tells her father and mother more.
27:21In addition to the prohibited effusions,
27:23he would have discovered much more serious things,
27:26things that often happen inside prison.
27:29The daughter confides in her parents
27:32and only a few days later
27:34she is found close to death.
27:37Some inmates had told him
27:40that there were drugs in the prison.
27:43Sissi said that this is impossible
27:45because he always believed in justice.
27:48And then he says they even told him where it was.
27:51She went to see it and found it.
27:54He brought it to the person who was supposed to bring it to him.
27:56And they told him that it wasn't Sissi's place to do that.
28:01They even asked him if it was Sissi's.
28:03That is, he says, it's impossible.
28:04They even made us question the things he saw.
28:07To confirm what Sissi told her mother
28:10she is a former colleague of his.
28:11We spoke 15 days before the November 1st incident.
28:18And what did he tell you on that occasion?
28:21She called me and told me that
28:23about a week ago
28:25an inmate had told her
28:28that he had told her
28:29the news that inside the laundry
28:32there was a drug ring.
28:34There was this drug ring
28:36that the inmates used it, perhaps during work breaks.
28:41And what does Sissi do when she receives this tip-off?
28:45Sissi I know that the next day, two days later
28:49she went to the laundromat.
28:52So very calmly
28:55she entered the office
28:57he checked these drawers
28:59where she was told this package was
29:02and she had confirmed it to me
29:04that there was cocaine inside.
29:06Is it possible that this could also happen in Giudecca?
29:09The environment allows it
29:10because the controls are absolutely lax.
29:13That is, we have the safety net.
29:16with very large shirts.
29:18Listen, excuse me.
29:18but if I try to get inside
29:20a penitentiary institution
29:21or the camera together with my colleague
29:24we get stopped, we get searched
29:26and they don't let us in.
29:27How is it possible that drugs
29:29can enter a prison?
29:31How can it be?
29:32Look, we found drugs
29:37in hidden parts,
29:39in private parts for example
29:40or hidden inside the shoes
29:44to say if they exchange them
29:45they come with the same pair of shoes
29:47doing the interview
29:48if they exchange them underneath
29:49who notices?
29:50I mean, the moment that
29:51this is possible
29:52because there are no people watching
29:54because people might move away
29:56to do another task
29:58what other people should do
29:59or other agents
30:00and so that area is no longer monitored.
30:04Drugs in prison
30:05due to staff shortages
30:07because as Giovanni Vona explains
30:09there are no people watching.
30:11What if Sissi had seen too much?
30:14But Sissi doesn't have time
30:16to find a way to report
30:17what he had discovered.
30:19As we have already told you
30:20both Sissi's family
30:22that the friend
30:22to which he had shown
30:24the photo of libido and scratches
30:25they have already told
30:27in recent months
30:27everything to the investigators.
30:29And we have come to the conclusion
30:31of what?
30:33The father, the mother
30:35and Sissi's brothers
30:36they ask to be able to see
30:37the video that takes place
30:39the last moments of her daughter's life
30:41and above all they ask
30:42that the investigators
30:43don't stop investigating
30:45and that they do it
30:45in all directions
30:47even in those
30:48indicated since then.
30:50Meanwhile
30:50we returned to Venice
30:52to try to help
30:54Sissi's family
30:55to find the answers
30:57which he doesn't have yet.
30:58The first stage
30:59at the civil hospital.
31:01Let's ask some questions
31:03but nobody
31:04he seems to know
31:05nor remember anything.
31:08We are taking care of the case
31:09and the police.
31:10But I can't answer
31:11why am I bringing you back
31:12via the health management.
31:14I am sorry.
31:14The day that was...
31:16I'm sorry, but I can't answer.
31:17Why am I bringing you back?
31:18via the health management.
31:20Domenico, I'm on holiday
31:21but the clinics are closed.
31:23It's all deserted,
31:25there's enough...
31:27I have never heard of it
31:28say nothing about this thing.
31:32We were talking last week
31:34and I told him
31:34she didn't hear anything else.
31:38we're moving then
31:40out of prison
31:41of the Giudecca
31:42and we wait
31:43colleagues
31:43of the 28 year old
31:44to understand
31:45if that's what Sissi
31:47he had told at home
31:48may be true.
31:50We also ask
31:51to two employees
31:52to the laundromat
31:53but nobody
31:54he wants to talk.
31:56Do you work in a laundry?
31:58Why us?
31:58they had told us
32:00that Sissi had said
32:00that there was a drug ring
32:02inside the laundry room
32:02of this prison.
32:03Have you heard anything?
32:05I don't know anything.
32:10We belong to those who saw it
32:11we are taking care of it
32:11of the Sissi case
32:14the prison police officer
32:15who worked here with you
32:18Sissi had told
32:19At home
32:20to parents
32:20and then
32:20that he had put
32:21black on white
32:22that inside the prison
32:23of the inmates
32:24they had kissed
32:25with some agents
32:26and then there was also
32:27a drug ring
32:28in the laundry
32:28you heard anything
32:30you
32:30what do you work in here?
32:33Why don't you want to?
32:34help a family
32:35to find the truth
32:35about what happened?
32:38Have a minimum
32:39of respect
32:40Until we meet again
32:41A minimum of respect
32:41for what?
32:42For a girl
32:43who is sick
32:43and nobody wants to help
32:44the parents?
32:47But she works
32:48to the laundromat?
32:50Sissi had told
32:51At home
32:51that there was a drug ring
32:52inside the laundry room
32:53of the prison
32:53she who works
32:54at the laundromat
32:54have you ever heard
32:55say anything about this?
33:00But why no one
33:01does that mean anything?
33:02I am trying to say
33:02there are parents
33:03who need
33:04to discover the truth
33:05In short, I have nothing
33:06I have to say I'm sorry
33:06This for her
33:07it's a model prison
33:08so then
33:08is everything working fine?
33:10It's a prison
33:10like everyone else
33:11Enough
33:12So there are problems
33:13every now and again?
33:14Like everywhere
33:15I think but not
33:16he has nothing
33:18Did Sissi know her?
33:19No
33:20work base
33:21and that's it
33:22I am sorry
33:22But here at work
33:23that is, how it was
33:24Calm?
33:25Yes
33:25A good person?
33:27I can't say anything
33:30Until we meet again
33:30They are in the separate structure
33:32Meaning what?
33:33Of mother and children
33:35Oh so
33:36No because that day
33:36Sissi in which then
33:37after they found her
33:38at the end of his life
33:39at the civil hospital
33:40it was really gone
33:41to find a prisoner
33:42who had become a mother
33:43so probably
33:43I didn't even see it
33:44the prisoner I
33:45But she knows if it's true
33:46what Sissi said
33:47that in prison
33:48there were problems
33:49among inmates
33:50who kissed
33:51with the guards
33:52drug
33:53I am a separate structure
33:54for which
33:55He has never heard
33:56say anything?
33:57Nothing
33:58He never came
33:58a check?
33:59Nothing?
33:59No no no
34:00It's a model prison
34:01This?
34:02I do not know
34:04I don't know anything
34:11Listen, good evening.
34:12we belong to those who saw it
34:13we are taking care of it
34:13of the Sissi case
34:14the prison police officer
34:16We don't know anything
34:19We don't know
34:20But here inside the prison
34:21is everything ok?
34:21Because she had told
34:22also to trade unionists
34:24that there had been a problem
34:25among the inmates
34:26The investigation is open
34:28we are waiting for the investigations
34:29and then we will know
34:30something we too
34:31This story instead
34:32it should be told to the parents
34:33that there were drugs
34:34in the prison laundry?
34:35We don't know
34:37But have there ever been any problems?
34:38in here
34:39this for you
34:39is it a model prison?
34:41Lady
34:41What do you want me to tell you?
34:43We don't know
34:45We can't say anything
34:46There are parents
34:48who seek the truth
34:49maybe maybe
34:50work colleagues
34:51they should be more supportive
34:52towards a person
34:53that anyway
34:53with them
34:54You have closed the investigations
34:56we will know something
34:57You work in here
34:58how can you not know anything?
35:00of a place where you work?
35:02No
35:02I don't know anything
35:03I can tell you
35:04that I really don't know anything
35:05I'm the only one
35:06to perhaps know nothing
35:07And not even the religious one
35:09which follows the inmates
35:10talk to us
35:12We are taking care of it
35:14of the Sissi affair
35:15the prison police officer
35:17We wanted to know
35:18what was going on in here
35:19because we were told
35:20that there had been problems
35:21among various inmates
35:23the prison guards
35:24really
35:24she had said
35:25that there was a drug ring
35:26she who is in here
35:28and has more
35:28let's say
35:29way of approaching
35:31to the inmates
35:31Meaning what
35:32what's happening here?
35:33I don't give interviews
36:03doubts
36:11Moments of Sissi's first life
36:13the finished one
36:15with a gunshot
36:16after the last frames
36:18footage from this camera
36:20there are still many
36:21too many
36:22the mysteries
36:32see you soon
36:33after this short break
36:35thank you all
36:38thank you all
36:39thank you all