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00:00All right, 888-957-9570.
00:03How does watching this 49er team make you feel?
00:06It's a little like, I'm trying to liken it to something.
00:13I don't know.
00:15It's kind of like flying to Vegas or something like that.
00:18There's like butterflies.
00:20It's exciting.
00:21It's fun.
00:22But there's some butterflies in there.
00:24Maybe it's like going to ask somebody out on a date for the first time.
00:27It's exciting.
00:29But it's nerve-wracking, and it can crash and burn very, very quickly.
00:34But I mean, unlike that, you have a little bit of a comfort zone.
00:38You have a landing spot where we've already talked about it.
00:40This year is a 7 out of 10 already in terms of satisfaction.
00:44Totally.
00:44Unlike when you're trying to ask a girl out, and if she says no,
00:48you might be absolutely crushed and crestfallen because you have nothing else.
00:51But in this, even if they go out and they lose to Seattle,
00:54and you're the 5 or the 6 or whatever, and you go out and you lose on the road,
00:57it still would have been a fun year.
00:59Do you yell at Electronics?
01:01Not usually.
01:03Like, what was the loudest moment last night?
01:06That's another one I want to throw out to everybody,
01:09because this is like a video game.
01:11What was the loudest moment in your house?
01:14Probably on the hook and lateral where, you know, Chicago's going to...
01:19To Swift.
01:19Right.
01:20Okay.
01:20I think it was Loveland to Swift.
01:21Loveland to Swift, yes.
01:22And then it was an oh!
01:24Because, like, the stones to have that be your call.
01:28I love the call.
01:30And Ben Jones, you know, he's got no timeout.
01:32So you're either going to throw it in the end zone three times or four times
01:35and hope for the best.
01:36But no, he runs Loveland over the middle and a little flippy flip to Swift
01:40coming the other way.
01:41And it was an oh!
01:43And then Diomino Lenore, he just breaks down like a football player.
01:48And he just, you know, he's doing the quick step.
01:50And he's like, okay.
01:51And just, he came up and he made the tackle.
01:53And he had help as well.
01:54But if he would have run up, he might have gotten juked and the game's over.
01:57No doubt.
01:58So the defense was bad.
02:00I'm not going to defend them other than, and I'll run through the plays
02:03maybe more so tomorrow.
02:04We have more time.
02:05But there were three or four plays that the defense made that were, yeah.
02:09Oh, my God.
02:10Yes.
02:10Big time.
02:11No doubt.
02:11Big plays and big moments.
02:13Yes, you gave up, what, 38 or whatever it was.
02:17But when they needed a defensive play, they had it.
02:20And that was one.
02:21And then the next one where Huff almost gets the sack
02:24and they pressured Williams and they forced him to roll, roll, roll, roll, roll
02:28in the final play of the game.
02:29And the defense on that play, they were up to it.
02:32And there might be defensive players on the Niners driving around right now
02:35going, we did not give up 38.
02:37Right, 31.
02:38We gave up 31.
02:39That's fair.
02:39Yep.
02:39Just a clean 31.
02:41There's just 31.
02:42Not that that's anything to brag about.
02:45For us, loudest moment was definitely the Jennings touchdown.
02:48Largely, though, that's because I think that was the only score that came
02:51after my show ended.
02:53So I was doing the show in the living room with young Jude sitting next to me.
02:57He actually said to me, he goes, Dad, how do you do that?
03:00How do you, like, you're so invested in this game and you're just talking through it
03:06like the Bears will go into the end zone and you'll just talk through it like nothing happened.
03:10And I'm like, it takes some practice because you're just twisted in knots, but you're live.
03:18And you're not going to just start screaming.
03:21And then, so as soon as the show ended, then I could be myself.
03:26And the Jennings touchdown was like me letting out all six touchdowns at once.
03:31Exactly.
03:32So that was loud.
03:34We scared the dog.
03:35All right.
03:35Let's go to Sean in Oakland.
03:37Hi, Sean.
03:37Thank you for calling.
03:38What's up?
03:39Hey, man, I'm very excited for what's going on right now in Santa Clara.
03:46This is amazing.
03:48Like, I'm a Raider fan, but I swear right now I love what's going on over there.
03:53The whole organization, everything is on point right now.
03:56The defense got to get worked on because this whole little trying to be the greatest show
04:00on turf like the Rams back in the day, it got to stop from one time.
04:04The defense got to do something.
04:05But I love what's going on over there.
04:06At this moment, on December 29th, I'm really thinking about converting back to a Niner.
04:11Woo!
04:13That is a big Sean from Oakland.
04:15You're turning your silver and black in for the Niners?
04:19Man, I don't care.
04:20Look, man, they're in Vegas, man.
04:22Look, man, they ain't got no loyalty to us.
04:24Why would I have no loyalty for them?
04:26I'm not in Vegas.
04:28Sean, that is as fair as fair gets.
04:31Yeah.
04:33All right, man.
04:33Thank you for calling in.
04:34Appreciate that.
04:35I mean, I think what Sean is saying is if you look at what the Niners are doing, it's kind
04:42of intoxicating.
04:44That's the other thing.
04:45You know, like the way this looks, it might be a little hard for an actual Niner fan because
04:52you would like the defense to offer up something.
04:55But my God, these games are fun.
04:57These are a great watch.
05:00Primetime games, two weeks in a row.
05:02What was the final score of the Colts-Niners?
05:06Was it 48-27?
05:07Something like that.
05:0948-27?
05:10Colts-Niners game?
05:12Whatever it is.
05:13Just add all those points up.
05:15Add all that up.
05:16We're like pushing damn near 200 points.
05:20Yeah.
05:21Since Brock came back.
05:22Yeah.
05:23Well, no, I just mean the last two weeks.
05:25Oh, yeah.
05:26Just in the last seven days, we're damn like...
05:28What's 90 points in the last two?
05:30No, for the whole game.
05:32Yeah, for the whole game.
05:33Yeah, gotcha.
05:34I mean, it's 155 for both teams, so...
05:38And I was thinking about this earlier, like, would you rather have a team that is so suffocating
05:44with an offense that is mediocre or worse, and so you're hoping to win 14-13, or this,
05:50where you're trying to win 42-38, where you know your defense is not going to stop them,
05:54and so every time the other team has the ball, you're thinking, oh boy, hopefully they score
05:59quick so we have time to go back and answer.
06:01But can I answer that two ways?
06:02I think, in one way, I'd rather have the offense, because that's like what people watch, and
06:07it's a little more prideful and fun, but the team that has that great defense, historically,
06:13is the one that actually has a chance to win the whole thing.
06:15Yeah.
06:16That team you just described was Gruden's Bucks.
06:21It was Ray Lewis's Ravens.
06:23Yeah.
06:24It was the Bears with the Super Bowl shuffle.
06:27Like a whatever offense.
06:29They just rode the defense all the way to the bowl.
06:31But I wonder if now the league hasn't changed to where, you know, I talked about this a
06:36couple of weeks ago, where does defense win championships?
06:39I don't even know if that's the case anymore, because it's so hard to play defense, and I
06:43think about the NBA a little bit, where, you know, teams are putting up 130 and losing
06:48because the pace and the three ball and defense is so hard to play in the association, and football
06:54is kind of similar, where you get five yards where you can manhandle a guy, and then the
06:59passing game is so efficient now.
07:01You've got these guys, other than Caleb Williams, completing, you know, 65 or 68, 70% of their
07:07throws, and, you know, these receivers have these fancy gloves now, so there are fewer
07:11drops than the rest of it, you know, and just the offenses are now so sophisticated that
07:17maybe you don't need an elite defense anymore to win.
07:20Javier in Richmond is next.
07:21Hi, Javier.
07:22We're taking all your calls on this.
07:24How does this team make you feel, this experience?
07:26888-957-9570.
07:28What's up, Javier?
07:30How are you guys doing?
07:31But to be honest, the team makes me feel sick, because my pessimistic nature doesn't allow
07:37me to believe that we're going to make these plays as often as we do, and despite the fact
07:41the defense gives up booty, far too often, they seem to make the big play when it's needed.
07:48You know, the Lenore tackle, you know, at the beginning of, you know, reminded me of
07:54Greenlaw on the goal line.
07:56It's that kind of importance as far as what they're doing out there on defense, just to
08:00keep us in it, and the offense, I can't believe we make all the plays when, you know, my nature
08:05is to not believe that we're going to make any.
08:08I think that's all well said.
08:10Like, some of this does, Javier, thanks, this does, I like that he points to his nature.
08:14Yep.
08:15I think that has a lot to do with how we all look at this.
08:18I think it's fair to define this season's 49er fandom as fully excited, but still not
08:29believing.
08:30I know that that bothers some of you, because some of you feel like that's your job as a
08:36fan is to believe in your team, but the numbers are all there, whether it be Vegas' spreads
08:43or just kind of the way fans have behaved both at the games, both during games, the games
08:52that we've gone out to.
08:53I certainly felt it.
08:54It's like, I don't feel the full-blown playoff fever experience that you normally feel when
09:04your team is 12-4 and going for the one seed.
09:06Right.
09:06And you think about the year Brock got hurt and they went to Philly and he, you know,
09:09lost his elbow in that game.
09:11You felt a lot more confident.
09:12Totally.
09:12I actually talked about it and I said, well, I still think that Philly should win the game
09:17and they will win the game and whatever, Brock gets hurt and so the game turned into something
09:21that it otherwise wasn't going to be.
09:23But that was at least, for most people, yourself included, you were believing like, yeah, you're
09:28going to go to Philly, you're going to win this game.
09:30Butcher and Bonte, they both went out there and they had the same feeling and they had to
09:34survive through the Philly fan and all the rest of it.
09:37But this year, to your point, doesn't feel that way.
09:40And maybe if they beat Seattle and they get the one seed, maybe that will signal a shift
09:45where, okay, now you've won seven in a row and you're 13-4 and you're the one seed and
09:50you host and the Super Bowl's here.
09:51Maybe we're just one win away from fans being able to fully buy in and believe.
09:56Maybe, maybe, but it depends also on the style of it.
10:00You know, how do you feel if the Niners do win another, like, scorefest barn burner 31-28
10:08thing over the Seahawks?
10:11I don't know that it matters.
10:12You know what I mean?
10:13Like, fan belief, I don't care what pair of socks you wear during the games.
10:17Like, I don't, we don't affect the way this whole thing goes.
10:21I've just never experienced this as a fan.
10:24I've never experienced the idea of the Niners being really good with their eyes on the one
10:29seed going into the final week and being an underdog.
10:32And fans still looking at it like, I mean, fun ride, but the bubble is going to burst
10:37at some point, most likely.
10:40Like, I don't know, is there a comp we can think of?
10:45A team that did ride its offense all the way to the Super Bowl while its defense was poor.
10:54I know people love to bring up one of Eli Manning's New York Giants teams, which had a
10:59very, very poor-rated defense.
11:02But if you then go to the Super Bowl and look at the way that they performed during the playoffs,
11:08they weren't winning games 41-38.
11:10That's not what ended up happening.
11:12So I would say that that was a poor-rated defense that then found something.
11:17It got better.
11:18It found something that was clicking a little bit come playoff time.
11:22I can't think of somebody who rode the Super Bowl on 41-38.
11:28I can't think of that historically.
11:31And it's hard historically because I do think that things are different now where offenses
11:34have a bigger edge right now, especially when you think about the Niners and Kyle Shanahan.
11:39And just look at yesterday.
11:41Again, he was in his bag, quote-unquote, with all the play action, the boot action.
11:46Even they got into the read option down by the goal line, and Brock Purdy reading the
11:52defensive end, reading the linebacker, and pulls it out, and he rolls in for the touchdown.
11:56Brock Purdy right now and Kyle Shanahan as 1 and 1A, whoever you want to favor, they are
12:02incredible.
12:03You had no Kittle.
12:04You had no Trent for all but one snap.
12:06Come on.
12:06It was Tonjes and Jawan and, of course, McCaffrey.
12:11And so we will never look beyond that as, like, maybe the most important person in the
12:15NFL, and I do think that he should garner a lot of attention for MVP.
12:20I know he won't because we don't do that, but for me, he's the most valuable player in
12:24the league.
12:25Well, he's got to be top five, and I don't even know if he'll get that.
12:28Right.
12:28But, like, I get it.
12:30You know, it's a quarterback award, so if people want to focus in on Stafford and Drake
12:34May, that's fine.
12:36Jackson Smith and Jigba deserves a comment here as well.
12:39Sure.
12:40Based on, and we'll see who wins this game on Saturday.
12:42That might affect it, too.
12:43But you're right.
12:44I mean, McCaffrey's name ought to at least be in this conversation with what he's doing.
12:52Because, by the way, I don't know if I can, like, actually do this and dispel.
12:58Remember the whole, like, well, what's Brock Purdy without the Avengers?
13:03All right.
13:03Well, so this is it.
13:04But maybe, maybe not.
13:06Maybe it's not the Avengers.
13:08Maybe it's just Avenger.
13:09Maybe that's it.
13:11Because when you said the Avengers, literally none of them were there last night.
13:18Except for Christian.
13:19Yep.
13:19Christian's still there.
13:21But no George.
13:22And when we used to say Avengers, we were talking Debo, N.I.U.K., and obviously the best
13:27left tackle in the game.
13:29Yep.
13:29And we would sprinkle all that.
13:30Well, now he's playing with Jake Tonjes, Kendrick Bourne, Juwan Jennings, Ricky Peersault,
13:38DeMarcus Robinson, and Sky Moore.
13:39So, you know, look, there are some things, I think, over the last five, six weeks that
13:46we can now sort of, I feel like, as a 49er fan base, you can move forward with and feel
13:51good about.
13:52You know, I know that there were people who, whatever your feelings are about Kyle Shanahan,
13:59whatever your feelings are about Brock Purdy and the contract, you've got your guys.
14:05Like, doesn't this make you feel like, you know how they're all rebooting, oh, let's
14:12reboot the defense, we've got to reboot the salary cap, because now we've got to do it
14:16with big contract Brock?
14:18Doesn't this make you feel like, oh, actually, we can, we can build around that guy.
14:24We can, we can rebuild a roster around that guy, and it can be effective and compete at
14:31a high level.
14:32If you think about just who was on the field last night, you had Jake Tonjes, who had,
14:36I think, no targets before this year.
14:38Correct.
14:38He's a third-year guy who is, you know, lightly drafted or undrafted, and you've got DeMarcus
14:43Robinson, who will be here next year, Sky Moore, Kendrick Bourne, these are all just guys,
14:48and even Juwan Jennings, who's going to get an increase in his salary, I don't know if it's
14:51here or elsewhere, but outside of McCaffrey.
14:54So you've got Purdy and McCaffrey, and then you have a bunch of guys, just guys, and it's
14:59because of Shanahan and the play design, but it's really because of Brock Purdy.
15:03He knows the offense.
15:05He knows what needs to happen in the offense.
15:07He made, I mean, you could say he made one mistake on the pick, which, I mean, I thought
15:12that it was just a great defensive play and stuff, and, you know, he broke on the ball,
15:15and that's just kind of the way that happens sometimes.
15:18It's football.
15:18Right, it's football.
15:19The other team's allowed to be better than you on a play, and that's what Chicago does,
15:24but beyond that, Brock Purdy with his legs, Brock Purdy with the read option, Brock Purdy
15:29with a couple of big, big-time throws, and, by the way, another fourth-quarter comeback
15:34for Brock Purdy, which we don't do that here in San Francisco.
15:38That throw to Juwan was chef's kiss.
15:42And he got a great, great play call by Shanahan.
15:44Great play call, but a push down the field, layered throw to a spot over the linebackers
15:52in front of the safeties, blocker ready to go as soon as Juwan caught it, walk into the
15:57end zone, touchdown.
15:58Yeah.
15:59Yeah.
16:00That's the fourth-quarter drive you want.
16:02Put the ball in your quarterback's hands.
16:04Down three.
16:06Go get us points.
16:07Boom.
16:08Boom.
16:08Yeah.
16:09And some big third-down conversions on that drive.
16:11And two plays before that that I thought was the play of the day from Shanahan, they
16:15run the fake stretch left, and everyone's going to the right, and you fake it that way,
16:21and then you boot the other way, and just when he's booting, all the blockers are right,
16:25he swings around and throws it right to McCaffrey.
16:27Back to McCaffrey, yes.
16:28Back to McCaffrey, and he rumbles for 18 down the sideline.
16:32That was a first-down play, but that got you down to where you'd get the 38-yard touchdown
16:37out of Juwan, but just that play design where you knew that Chicago was so thirsty to come
16:42and get him on that play, you fake it to him, you boot, the defense readjusts, nope, we're
16:47still going back that way.
16:48Yeah, that was very, very good.
16:50Well-executed.
16:51Steven Oakland is next.
16:52Hi, Steve.
16:53Thanks for calling.
16:54Hi.
16:56Hi.
16:58So I'm a die-hard 49er fan, and I'm trying to get as excited as everyone else, but I'll
17:04tell you why I stay a little worried.
17:07If you take your lesson from baseball, the best hitters ever, you know, they get hot,
17:14but eventually they cool off, but defense, defense never goes into a slump, and I just
17:21think expecting the 49ers to score 40 points or 35 points or even 30 points every single
17:28week is just unrealistic, whereas if their defense was just, you know, off the charts,
17:36that is a little bit more reliable, and you can count on that.
17:40And so I don't know.
17:41I don't know how long they can stay hot, but it's very rare that offense stays hot for a
17:48long time.
17:49Steve, thanks.
17:50I don't think Steve is wrong.
17:51Like, here's what I would say about the Niners' playoff chances.
17:56If you're trying to do what they did last night the whole time, like all the way through
18:02January and into February, I don't think that's going to work.
18:06The defense is going to have to play better.
18:08They do not.
18:09That does not mean they have to suddenly be stuff them, hold them to 16 points type of
18:14a defense, but there's going to have to be more playmaking.
18:17There's going to have to be some sacks.
18:19There's going to have to be an interception or two that is created here or there, because
18:25that's kind of what flips the field into the 49ers' favor.
18:29They were very fortunate to get away with being the ones who turned the ball over to the other
18:34team, and then they were still able to outscore the Bears by 11 from that point forward.
18:39But think about the Colts game.
18:40Colts up 7-0.
18:42You answer.
18:43Colts up, you know, and then what do you do?
18:45Bang.
18:46You get the fumble on special teams.
18:48Now it's 14-7.
18:50Now they're chasing.
18:51And we know this is a staple of Kyle Shanahan.
18:53Whether it's high scoring or low scoring, he wants to be chased.
18:57He does not want to be the chaser.
18:59And so that's going to be the difficulty for me throughout the playoffs is to remain the
19:04chased, not the chaser, while your defense is giving up that many points.
19:09And you mentioned the Giants earlier as the worst defense to ever win the Super Bowl, and
19:13I'm just looking at their game log.
19:15The one thing about that team that the Niners don't do, that team took the ball away from
19:19the opponent almost twice a game.
19:21They're more like the Bears this year than they are like the Niners this year.
19:25And by the way, that Giants defense in the playoffs, they turned it up about five notches.
19:29Yep.
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