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00:00Did you hear what Jackson Dart said after the game about the...
00:04That was crazy.
00:05Jackson Dart on the fans at MetLife.
00:08What's your feeling about all the 49er fans that were in the building today?
00:12That was interesting.
00:13I've never played at a home game where I felt like it was kind of lopsided in that department.
00:20But, you know, they have a good fan base and they traveled well.
00:23Okay.
00:23It was crazy.
00:24Right, Jackson?
00:25Welcome to the NFL.
00:27Welcome to Niner games.
00:29It was crazy.
00:31I still find it fascinating, don't you?
00:35What happened?
00:37Can someone...
00:37One-off here real quick.
00:39No, because I have a follow-up.
00:41What happened and exactly when?
00:45I've been a Niner fan since 1980.
00:49This was not a thing.
00:51We didn't just go to whatever...
00:53What's going to happen when the Niners do get one of these Berlin-London games?
00:57Are we just all going?
00:59Let's just go.
01:01Come on, Tim Jordan.
01:02Grab your bag.
01:04We're going to Berlin.
01:06Because that's what you do as a Niner fan.
01:08I had another conversation with someone who ended up at the airport at a recent...
01:13On a Friday or Saturday with a recent 49er road game.
01:17Oh, it was the week before.
01:18It was the Houston game.
01:20They were at SFO the day before the Houston game.
01:23And they're like, I don't know what the hell was going on.
01:26It was just like a hundred women in Niner gear getting on flights.
01:31I'm like, you walked by a gate that was bound for Houston.
01:33That's what happened.
01:34But when did this become a thing?
01:38When did we just decide we're going to all of the games?
01:41In mass.
01:44The weather doesn't matter.
01:46The cost of the flight does not matter.
01:50It doesn't matter what month of the year.
01:52It doesn't matter if it's on a Monday, a Thursday, a Sunday.
01:55It doesn't matter what country.
01:57We will occupy at least half the stadium.
02:00Them's the rules.
02:01When did that start?
02:02I don't know.
02:05And I don't even think that it's only those who travel.
02:08And this is where it kind of, it doesn't really bother me,
02:12but the whole idea of like, oh boy, the Niner fans,
02:15they really traveled for this one.
02:16I don't think that of all the Niner fans that were there yesterday,
02:20I would say probably an eighth of them actually flew in.
02:24I think it's people who live there who are Niner fans who show up.
02:28I think you're low.
02:29I don't think, but the whole idea of like, oh, the Niner fans,
02:32they really travel well.
02:34They do though.
02:35But I think there are Niner fans everywhere.
02:37I don't think that they, a place like New York City,
02:39the largest city in our country,
02:42I would imagine that if you live there and you're a Niner fan,
02:45you mark this game and you go to this game.
02:47Right.
02:47But how many Niner fans live in Houston, Texas?
02:50Like who the hell moved to Houston, Texas?
02:52Houston is like the fourth largest city.
02:54So again, it's a big city, but you know that this is true everywhere.
02:58We did this at Green Bay.
03:00We did this at Green Bay.
03:01Well, Green Bay, they don't represent like that.
03:02They represent pretty damn well.
03:04Not like they did in Houston or New York or L.A.
03:08I do think that the majority of the fans who show up as Niner fans
03:11live there or they live close.
03:14I don't think that the idea of, oh, Niner fans, they travel.
03:17They do travel.
03:18But I wonder what that number is,
03:20and only the airlines probably could tell us,
03:22how many fans actually flew in as Niner fans to be there.
03:26And yesterday was what, maybe 30% Niner fans?
03:29I have no idea.
03:30Jackson Dart said it felt like it was more than half the crowd,
03:33and maybe that's because they were winning.
03:34I don't know.
03:36I don't know.
03:37Jackson Dart, who's played a lot of big-time college football,
03:41said that he'd never experienced anything like that in his life.
03:44You know what I mean?
03:45And that is his third or fourth home game, too.
03:48So there were other opponents, including, by the way,
03:51the Philadelphia Eagles.
03:53The Eagles came to MetLife.
03:56On a Thursday night three or four weeks ago, Jackson Dart beat them.
04:00And apparently they populated MetLife Stadium less so than Niner fans.
04:06And I know there are more people from Philadelphia living in or near New York
04:11than Niner fans.
04:12More easier to get there from Philadelphia.
04:14I mean, that's a train ride.
04:15It's probably like a two-hour train ride.
04:17I don't know the exact distance.
04:18But, yeah, I do think that the 49er fan base is larger and more widespread.
04:23But also, yeah, people will fly in.
04:26And if you're a Niner fan and you look at this year's schedule,
04:28that game in New York in early November is very desirable.
04:33It's not like going to Buffalo last year in December when, okay,
04:36you're going to go to Buffalo, which, I mean,
04:39Buffalo's not exactly a great tourist destination.
04:42Apologies to all the people in Buffalo.
04:44And December and the weather,
04:47that's going to be a little tougher than New York in November?
04:49I guess.
04:50You know what I mean?
04:50I don't know that it matters that much, to be honest with you.
04:53I really don't.
04:54They're all fun.
04:56I get it.
04:57You look at a road schedule and maybe you think about the timing
05:00and the city and all of those things.
05:02But at the same time, I think you're just like, you know,
05:07we've got a chance here or there to do some of these things.
05:09Going to see the Niners on the road is really fun.
05:13It's really fun.
05:14And it's a crazy experience because you'll have all sorts of new friends
05:18when you're done with that trip because they do.
05:20We take over a city or at least the city surrounding the stadium for a day
05:27or for two days.
05:29It's crazy.
05:29The only places I've done it are Vegas and Chicago,
05:33at least in recent years.
05:36And it is, I mean, the Vegas thing was completely, definitely,
05:42no questions asked, more than 50-50 Niner fans.
05:45The Bears game was not, and it was the opener,
05:48but very well represented, very well represented.
05:51And as you remember, it was raining sideways.
05:54So, anyway, it's just interesting to me.
05:55I don't remember.
05:57I remember growing up at a time when they were, quote-unquote,
06:00the team of the 80s.
06:02And maybe I just didn't have a finger on this kind of a pulse because I was seven.
06:06But I don't remember it ever, I don't remember it looking and feeling like this
06:10when the Niners went on the road.
06:11And I don't think that back then, as I remember,
06:14you didn't really live your life like that.
06:16You didn't really think about, okay, let's jump on a plane and go to New Orleans
06:21or wherever.
06:22Like, you supported your team here, and when they were on the road,
06:26you hoped that they'd be on TV because they weren't always on TV.
06:29Brother, I didn't jump on a plane to go anywhere.
06:32My parents took us to the World's Fair in 1986 in Canada, and we drove.
06:38Yeah, we never went anywhere.
06:40We drove everywhere.
06:41We drove to Montana.
06:42We drove to Canada.
06:43We drove everywhere.
06:45Brother, we went nowhere.
06:47We took one vacation to Tahoe.
06:49I was a year old, and reportedly it was such a nightmare that they vowed never again.
06:54Family vacations with kids are tough.
06:56Well, we took one.
06:57With no kid, they're tough.
06:58Especially when you've got Mikey 1.0, the Unibrother, and the Caner.
07:03How old were you?
07:04I was one, and I have no memory.
07:06Yeah, I was going to say.
07:07We drove to Tahoe.
07:08Apparently, we rented a house.
07:10There was a hot tub.
07:11Things were broken, and my parents were like, you know what?
07:14Never again.
07:15And you know what?
07:16We never again took a family vacation, ever.
07:19Then they held their promise.
07:20They sure did.
07:20How much older are your brother and sister?
07:22Mike is six years older.
07:24Doug and Gail are four and a half and three and a half, respectively.
07:27Born the same year, by the way.
07:28Okay, so.
07:29Irish twins.
07:30They took you all to Tahoe, and the kids were seven?
07:34Seven, five, four, and one.
07:36Yep.
07:37Oh, God, that sounds like hell.
07:39I could have told you, parents, that was going to suck before they even went.
07:42Well, especially when you know my three older siblings.
07:44It doesn't matter.
07:45They're seven, five, four, and one.
07:47Like, that's not even fully formed yet.
07:50I apparently wasn't the problem.
07:51I just kind of sat in the corner and did what I did.
07:54You were probably pretty immobile at that time.
07:56Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:57Anyway, as far as plane flights, I didn't go on a plane until my senior year of high school.
08:03Really?
08:03Yeah, for that very same reason.
08:04Yeah.
08:05I mean, you just didn't do that.
08:06It's expensive.
08:07And so, even as, like, a football fan at the time, I don't think that in, like, 1983, you thought,
08:12hey, let's fly to Atlanta and see the Niners in an NFC West battle against the Falcons.
08:17You just didn't do that.
08:19You would now, though.
08:21It's just wild to me.
08:22Well, air travel now is much more common, and, like, we all have our air miles, and flights are much more affordable.
08:30They are?
08:30For sure.
08:31I feel like flights are way more expensive now.
08:34You have to plan this stuff at least two months in advance, or if you try to get a flight in the last, like,
08:41ooh, hey, hon, you want to go to New York?
08:44Like, what?
08:45That was, like, what would have, if you planned that just two weeks ago, the flight itself, you and one other person, that's a grand.
08:53Probably.
08:54But my point is, when the schedule comes out, and you look and you go, at Seattle, at New Orleans, at L.A., at Tampa, at Houston, New York, Arizona, Cleveland, and Indy,
09:04and you look at all those, and you think, whatever, L.A., we can drive there, Arizona, been there, done that, Seattle for the opener, okay, sexy.
09:12New Orleans.
09:13Sure.
09:14That's the one that I would have done.
09:15Yeah, and I've been to New Orleans, like, eight times.
09:17I've never been.
09:18And, I mean, New Orleans is awesome, it's fun, and, you know, it's New Orleans, so it's super fun, it's a party time,
09:24but New York is the one you look at, and you go, okay, we're going to do a one-time destination, late October, early November, New York, that's the trip.
09:32I get it.
09:33I get it.
09:33Let's go to Jim Martinez.
09:35Hi, Jim, what's going on?
09:36What are you doing?
09:38Hey, guys, listen to this, this is so fun listening to this, because we've traveled between my brother and my sister, Green Bay, New Orleans, Arizona, Seattle, L.A.,
09:49but it's a combination of what you guys are talking about.
09:52Like, when you go to a game in Arizona, there are people from New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, anywhere that's been hundreds of miles.
10:03Niner fans are all over the place, and they love the Niners, and they travel from, like, the hinterlands, and now you're talking to people at the bar, and, you know, they're from all around the whole area,
10:19so there's probably people from, you know, Connecticut and, I mean, just New Jersey and everywhere over that game yesterday, and it's just amazing to hear the opposing quarterback have to freaking go to a silent count.
10:33So, how awesome is that?
10:34It's the best.
10:35You guys are great, man.
10:36Love you guys.
10:36Jim, thank you.
10:37Appreciate it.
10:38No, it's the best, and we're starting to hear that more and more, and it's one thing when Stafford does it, because, like, that house, it's hysterical.
10:45Whose house?
10:46Everyone's house.
10:47Right.
10:47That's the problem.
10:48It is.
10:49I still believe someone was playing a joke on someone when they decided that that was going to be their rallying cry.
10:56Whose house?
10:57Whose house?
10:57Well, whoever happens to be here right now, like, honestly, that'd be like yelling whose house on Halloween night when you're one of the houses that puts a ball out.
11:07Whose house?
11:08Well, it's mine right now, because I'm here tonight.
11:11Like, that is hysterical that that's what they do, so that one's different.
11:15The Niners fans will always take that place over, and there's tons of fans who do live down there, easy to get to, all of that.
11:22But when did it become, like, we'll go to Jacksonville, Florida, and we'll go to Green Bay, Wisconsin, and we'll go, hell, anywhere, anywhere, and there's at least 33% to 40% of the stadium is Niner fans.
11:39Let's go to D in the city.
11:41Hi, D.
11:41What's up?
11:41What are you doing?
11:44Hey, what's going on?
11:45I was telling them that, yeah, like, a gentleman before, he said it was a combination of everything.
11:51What you guys haven't mentioned is how many of the fans from the city do not like Levi's Stadium.
11:58Yeah.
11:58And I'd be willing to go to any stadium in the country, and I'll spend the same amount of money.
12:05I go to Levi's Stadium, I might spend $1,000, and my ticket might have been free.
12:10Well, wait, wait, the ticket's free, and you're spending a G to go to Levi's?
12:17How's that happening, D?
12:20No, I spent $600 with my friend, and my ticket was free.
12:23I bought the parking pad.
12:25I bought the first, the first, the first round.
12:28I bought the second round.
12:29I bought the third round.
12:30Wow.
12:31You don't have to get wasted, D.
12:33All of a sudden, it's like a 12-round boxing battle.
12:35It's not a rule that you get bombed at the game.
12:39But you know what I'm saying?
12:40Yeah, I do.
12:41There's a certain amount of the Niner fans that just refuse to go to Levi's, and I've done it for five years.
12:46I've gone to five travel games in a row.
12:50I hear you.
12:51Yeah, and D, if you got those resources, then good on you.
12:53No, but D's hitting on something where, let's just say you drop a G.
12:58And if the tickets aren't free, and the tickets are $400, and then the parking's another $100,
13:04and then the tailgate, this and that, let's just say it's close to $1,000.
13:08If you can fly somewhere for $500 and get tickets for cheaper, for example, the New Orleans game,
13:15you could probably get tickets to that game for $50 a pop.
13:18I don't know.
13:18And so with a hotel and a flight, and maybe you use your points,
13:22you could probably get the same sort of experience on the road.
13:26Why would tickets at other stadiums be just dirt cheap?
13:29Because they're not going to sell out, like the Saints?
13:33But like the New York Giants, I know they're not good, but the New York Giants,
13:38like that fan base, I've never watched a game at MetLife that's not full.
13:43And the Giants and Jets are way more often terrible than otherwise.
13:49I've never seen that stadium not full.
13:51There's very few stadiums in the NFL where you're like, yeah, the team's not good,
13:55then it's kind of half empty, like Jacksonville, maybe Tennessee right now.
14:00But like, I don't know, NFL games are usually full.
14:05Why would the tickets be so cheap?
14:06Because they're not usually full.
14:08And I'm looking at the game against Arizona in two weeks,
14:12and you could get tickets, a pair of tickets for $100 apiece.
14:16Yeah, and Arizona's another one of those Jacksonville-style kind of deals.
14:19Sure, but I mean, I'm thinking about it in terms of what Dee is saying.
14:22If you don't want to go to Levi's and, you know, spend an hour in, an hour out,
14:27and $100 on parking, or whatever it is, you go to Arizona, and you could fly in.
14:32Heck, you could even drive there.
14:34It's a long drive, but you could do that.
14:36And tickets are $100 apiece, whereas at Levi's,
14:40you're not getting in there for $100 a ticket.
14:41Well, I mean, I can promise you all going to SoFi, that is not, this I know,
14:46that is not cheap.
14:48That is not cheap.
14:49Parking, tickets, whatever else you're doing to go to SoFi Stadium for a football game, right?
14:55My brother-in-law's season ticket holder.
14:57That is not cheap at all.
15:00So, I don't know.
15:01You know, stadium to stadium, and I guess that's kind of my point,
15:04because they're not like, it's not like every destination they go to
15:07is just going to be cheap and easy to get to with cheap tickets.
15:10But the Niner fans take over every stadium, just about, at least to a certain degree.
15:17So, I get the Levi's thing.
15:19Levi's Stadium is not my favorite place to be on earth.
15:25I think there are some aspects where it gets a bad rap.
15:28There are others where it's like, whoops, that's not great.
15:30That's not great for fans.
15:32I have a hard time believing that I could get to a road game
15:36with everything involved in that for cheaper than finding my way into Levi's Stadium.
15:41Oh, you'd be surprised.
15:42And I'm looking right now.
15:43Oh, no, I've done it.
15:44No, I'm looking right now in real time.
15:46If you want to go to the Cleveland game, you can get in for $31 a ticket.
15:51Well, you're looking at that.
15:52You don't know that.
15:53I'm looking at it right now.
15:55Vivid seats.
15:55I clicked on it.
15:56November 30th.
15:57One o'clock kick.
15:59Upper level.
16:00Granted, you're upper level in the corner.
16:02The $500 level, but you're in the door for $31.
16:05That's a $500 level?
16:06$31 a ticket.
16:08Well, what's the flight to Cleveland?
16:10And obviously, like everybody, maybe I'm also running this through my situation.
16:15Like, if you want to fly, like you've got to block out.
16:20You have to block out at least a weekend.
16:23And time is money.
16:24Sure.
16:25A couple nights at a hotel.
16:26Right?
16:26Get it.
16:27Hotel, flight, Uber, whatever, however you're getting around.
16:31You know what I mean?
16:32Like, there's no way.
16:34There's no way it's cheaper.
16:35I get it if you just hate Levi's or whatever.
16:38I mean, there's a way that it's not more expensive.
16:41And again, I'm talking about, like, flights and points and whatever other way you want
16:46to maneuver it.
16:46All I'm saying is that it makes sense to me if you don't want to do the Levi's thing.
16:51And I do think that Levi's gets a little bit of a bad rap.
16:54But, for example, the Ram game, I just clicked on tickets for the Ram game.
16:58And to get in the door, it's going to be $200 a pop.
17:02Big game.
17:02Divisional game.
17:03First place on the line.
17:05And all the rest of it.
17:06So, yeah.
17:07You get seats.
17:08Maybe you're on the sunny side.
17:09And you're going to be getting cooked out for the first half for $200 a pop.
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