Tua Tagovailoa has never looked THIS bad | Mike McDaniel says everything is on the table

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Reaction to the Miami Dolphins loss on MNF in Pittsburgh last night including another poor performance from Tua.

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00:00Anyway, statistically, last night, if I told you that Tua would finish 22 of 28 for 254

00:09yards, two tutties, one pick, and a 113.4 passer rating, and it's only his fifth game

00:17with a 100-plus passer rating this season, you know, you'd say, hey, God put together

00:24a little game.

00:26You would have.

00:27I'm so stuck about those numbers compared to the outcome, because we all watch the game

00:32snap for snap.

00:34No, you don't need to be stuck on those numbers.

00:35Those numbers were pure garbage.

00:37I could have put up, they were playing such soft defense at the end, they had a four-touchdown

00:41lead just about.

00:43That defense was so soft, the win was already in the books for them.

00:48He was awful.

00:49And you know, I love Tua.

00:51I've been a big Tua supporter.

00:53He was awful.

00:54It is so beyond apparent that he is a small percentage of what he was.

01:04Solana never liked him in the first place.

01:07He never looked this bad.

01:09Nope, no.

01:09Ever.

01:10He never looked this immobile.

01:13Ever.

01:13It's crazy when a pocket starts collapse or when he just starts moving the internal thoughts

01:22that one has is amazing to me.

01:25Like he has, when I say zero mobility, I mean zero and by the way, zero awareness of what's

01:34going on around him or behind him.

01:36Yeah.

01:37Oh, that sack when he ran to his left and just let the big linebacker run up and grab

01:41his legs.

01:42Unbelievable.

01:44Throw the ball out of bounds.

01:45Like, honestly, he could have thrown, he was outside the pocket.

01:49He could have slung it out of bounds.

01:50He was running to his left.

01:51He could have threw it out of bounds and it would have just been third and eight.

01:55No, no, no.

01:56I'm a big fan of third and 22.

01:58That's what I want to get into.

02:00He looked tough.

02:03We, we watched, we, yes, Buffalo, Buffalo, England with bake.

02:07Um, what's his name?

02:08Uh, Drake may and Josh Allen.

02:10And then I watched the Indy game.

02:12He scrambles closer to the 44 year old Phillip rivers than he does towards the other two guys

02:18in the AFC East.

02:19I believe I'm not even kidding you.

02:22If, if someone said to you, you're going to need one scramble from a quarterback.

02:30To get you a first down in some scenario, who would it be?

02:35Phillip rivers or to a tongue of Iloa.

02:37I think I would go with rivers just because he's got that mindset where he doesn't want

02:45to be brought down to it.

02:46Doesn't seem to have that mindset.

02:48He crumples.

02:50It's crazy watching it.

02:52Are you guys surprised about this Crowder?

02:54I am for the past two years, actually three seasons.

02:58All we've heard is people talking about Tua's head injuries.

03:02Can Tua stay healthy?

03:04He's one more head injury away from being forced to retire.

03:08He's one more head injury away from everybody in the NFL.

03:12Just being again, uncomfortable with him returning from being the talk of the league in terms of

03:17concussions that has to wear on somebody three seasons, multiple concussions, multiple times.

03:25Have you seen how many times Jackson Dart has been in concussion protocol this season?

03:29More times than Tua's entire career.

03:31That's right.

03:31This season only.

03:32Where's that narrative?

03:33Where's that talk?

03:34I'm with you.

03:35I'm not telling you it's the correct way to go about it.

03:37But I'm just saying, if you think about it rationally, Tua absorbing all of that.

03:43Miss me with that.

03:43He doesn't pay attention.

03:44He's on CNN, Fox News, all the major networks fencing.

03:49And everybody has an opinion on it.

03:51That has to wear on him, especially everybody around him telling him, don't get hit.

03:55Don't get hit.

03:56Don't get hit.

03:57I mean, you're watching it.

03:58Somebody who's mentally not able to play the game the way he wants to play the game because

04:04he's so afraid of getting hit again.

04:06I don't think it's fear.

04:10I think it's like, because when you're in the pocket to get knocked down and to get a

04:16concussion, Solana, and I understand what you're saying.

04:18He doesn't want to get hit because he's heard so many times, you're fragile, you're fragile,

04:22fragile.

04:22If I tell you you're fragile for three years straight, you're going to believe you're fragile.

04:27Those plays weren't a fragile head injury play.

04:31That play, he got sacked that I was talking about when he rolled to his left and just let

04:35the dude run and grab his legs.

04:37You don't get hit and concussed on those plays.

04:40You have no pocket awareness to just, he could have, it wasn't a crossbody throw.

04:46He's left-handed.

04:48He's, it's almost worse than what you're asking me.

04:52He forgot how to play quarterback at a high level more than scared of injury.

04:57He's physically limited.

04:59He is.

05:00I mean, this happens.

05:01This happens with that.

05:02Out of bounds.

05:04Very rarely.

05:05Well, yeah.

05:05No, he's lost his ability to be an effective quarterback.

05:08You're right.

05:09He's lost his ability to be an effective quarterback.

05:13And that obviously doesn't bode well for next season where we're all kind of convinced.

05:18Do you have the sound, Jimmy, from Mike McDaniel?

05:21This was after the game, you know.

05:23So a lot of us saying, hey, bench Tua for Quinn Ewers or Zach Wilson.

05:28And I said, until you're mathematically eliminated.

05:31Now, I believe you have to have the conversation, not just about Tua, about Devon Achan, about Jordan Brooks, about Jalen Waddell.

05:40I mean, you have select talented players on this roster.

05:45Why would you risk injury to any of them the remainder of the season?

05:50So they can go out there and play football.

05:52And Devon Achan can have Pro Bowl numbers and Jordan Brooks can lead the NFL in tackles.

05:57All right.

05:58That's why.

05:58That's the answer.

05:59Because people get injured.

06:01We saw two major injuries this weekend.

06:04Two.

06:05Right?

06:06Yes.

06:06We saw Patrick Mahomes go down.

06:09He's going to be ACL.

06:11We saw Micah Parsons go down ACL.

06:14And I'm telling you, if you're going to have the conversation about Tua and having him ride the bench the rest of the season,

06:20you've got to have the conversation about H.N., Waddell, Brooks, and anyone else that has value.

06:27I'm not kidding you.

06:28Like, what is the point?

06:30Anyway, here is Mike McDaniel was asked last night after the game, have you given consideration to benching Tua?

06:38Yeah, I think it would be very rash and short-sighted if I even tried to tackle that option.

06:53You know, I think I have to look at the tape and I'll move on from there.

06:59But realistically, I'm just supremely disappointed that, you know, we couldn't come out with a win here.

07:06We had high expectations and they fell short.

07:09Now, Tua is having, or Mike McDaniel is having his Monday press conference now, which is really Tuesday.

07:16They're back.

07:18And so what's the latest update?

07:20Because Solana, he's just speaking about this again.

07:22He's speaking right now.

07:23This is from David Furones.

07:26Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel told reporters in Miami Gardens that there is the potential of benching Tua

07:32and making a change at quarterback quote.

07:35The quarterback play last night was not good enough.

07:39Everything is on the table.

07:42What is everything?

07:45Zach and Quinn?

07:46Well, I mean, what else?

07:47Are you going to go out and get Phillip Rivers?

07:49I'm just saying, that's everything.

07:50That's everything we have to throw at him.

07:52Zach and Quinn?

07:53Like, what are we...

07:54Yeah, that's...

07:55But what are...

07:56Hawk, what are we doing trying to find our next backup to our next quarterback

08:00after we pay Tua $50 million next year?

08:03I'm not saying Tua needs to play.

08:05I'm just saying, what are we doing as an organization...

08:08I agree.

08:09...when they're on the table?

08:10I agree.

08:11It's Quinn Ewers.

08:12I don't know how...

08:13What would be the point of Zach Wilson other than to say, hey, we did identify a really

08:20good backup because that was Mike McDaniel said he handpicked him, right?

08:23So, if he wants to say, hey, look, I do see here in the final three games what we thought

08:29we had with Zach Wilson, unless they genuinely believe Zach Wilson could start here next season

08:37because he's going to have the type of career resurgence that a Sam Darnold had with Seattle

08:43or with Minnesota, now Seattle, or Daniel Jones had with Indianapolis, unless McDaniel

08:49truly believes that to his core.

08:51And that could be a bargaining chip for him to go to Steve Ross and say, hey, look, I found

08:57this guy, developed him, I gave him a second chance.

08:59He has the potential of actually being a really good quarterback here next year.

09:03There is zero reason to start Zach Wilson, and nobody's going to convince me that that's

09:09a reality.

09:09Zach Wilson here next year starting for the Dolphins.

09:12Like, if next year my options are Tua or Zach Wilson again, I won't be a Dolphins fan anymore.

09:19Would you like to know, though, if Zach Wilson is a quality-capable backup?

09:24No, because if next year, after Stephen Ross put out that memo, that status quo won't be

09:32good enough this year, and you literally are 6-8 entering Week 16, which is exactly what

09:38you were last year after losing to the Texans on the road, and you put up an even more pitiful

09:43performance after being hot on a four-game win streak, and you come back next year with

09:48Tua Tonga-Vailoa or Zach Wilson as your quarterback options, nobody should be a Dolphins fan next

09:55year.

09:55Nobody.

09:56Because then Stephen Ross is full of bleep, and you're literally telling everybody status

10:01quo is fine.

10:02But how do you know about Zach Wilson until you see him?

10:04Because I've seen Zach Wilson.

10:05I don't care.

10:06I don't care.

10:06But, Huck, what are we trying to figure out?

10:10Now, if Zach Wilson is a good number two, if Quinn Ewers is a starter, what are we trying

10:16to figure out by benching Tua?

10:18No, I'm with you.

10:20Everyone knows Tua's not long for the team.

10:24You may get another season with them just because of economic realities, but everyone knows Tua's

10:30not long for the team.

10:31So the question is, can they get someone through a trade?

10:34Can they get someone in the draft?

10:36Do they have to wait a season?

10:37But the grander answer is Tua, at most, has one season left with the Dolphins as a starter.

10:49Do you need to find out if Zach Wilson is an adequate backup?

10:53Probably.

10:54You didn't find it out this season.

10:55You gave him $6 million.

10:57You're telling me that their opinion of him changed by not seeing him?

11:01It wouldn't make any sense.

11:03They took a flyer on Quinn Ewers in the seventh round.

11:06They don't believe he's a quarterback of the future.

11:09They believe he's a placeholder.

11:10Could he be something?

11:11You never know.

11:12Seventh round picks have worked out to be something before, but I don't think, to Crowder's point,

11:16I don't think there's much on the table.

11:19It's not like you've got J.J.

11:21McCarthy sitting behind Kirk Cousins and you go, I got to see what I have with J.J.

11:27McCarthy.

11:27That doesn't exist on this team right now.

11:30So, the quarterback of the future is not Zach Wilson, is not Quinn Ewers.

11:37That's my belief, and I would imagine that's their belief as well.

11:40Now, how they find the quarterback of the future, that's up to them to figure it out.

11:45And then, who is the – are we trying to find the best chance to – and I'm not – this is way above our pay grade.

11:52Are we trying to find the best chance to beat the next three teams, or are we trying to evaluate people?

11:59Like, it just got real ugly in that building for the upstairs.

12:03It's a different question, right?

12:04Because for Mike McDaniel, he wants to win the next three games.

12:07But are we?

12:08Champ – he wants to.

12:10He wants to.

12:11It does him no good not to win the three games.

12:14So, he wants to.

12:15There's no question.

12:16There's not even – there's not even a gray area.

12:19Does Champ Kelly want to win the next three games?

12:21Does Stephen Ross want to win the next three games?

12:23I don't know.

12:24That's up to them to figure out.

12:27By the way, I don't think they're going to have much of a say in it anyway.

12:30Because they could field their best team.

12:33They're not going 3-0 in the next three games.

12:36They're not.

12:36And it doesn't matter if they do.

12:39Anyway, we have a lot to get to.

12:41I want to get to headlines here so that we don't get too far behind.

12:43Arande Gadsden is going to join us this hour.

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13:09Tua yesterday reminded me of Ryan Tannehill.

13:12Just in the sense of big game.

13:14You need a win.

13:15You're down 28-3.

13:17Now you start throwing touchdowns.

13:19So to answer your question to start the show, Hawk, did those numbers mean anything?

13:23No.

13:23Because the only time those numbers looked good and started to look decent are when you

13:29were in the hole 28-3 in the fourth quarter.

13:31Yeah, I never asked if those numbers meant anything because those numbers didn't mean anything.

13:34No, no, no, no, no.

13:36Okay, a quarterback.

13:37What was he, 22 of 28?

13:39Yeah.

13:39250 plus?

13:41Yep.

13:41Two touchdowns.

13:43Yep.

13:43Those are winning numbers.

13:44They usually are.

13:46No, they're not.

13:47They're not.

13:47They're not winning numbers.

13:49Salama, we watched the performance.

13:52We watched how he got those numbers.

13:54We saw that he had 63 yards in the first half.

13:59I watched the game.

14:01For Aaron Rodgers, those were winning numbers.

14:03He has the same numbers last night.

14:05He won.

14:05Those are winning numbers.

14:06No, they're not.

14:07You know why?

14:08Because look at the numbers at the end of the third quarter.

14:10That's where you have to look at the numbers.

14:12I got you.

14:13I'm just saying those numbers are winning numbers.

14:15Most quarterbacks come out with over 250 yards passing, 22 of 28, and 113 quarterback

14:22rating.

14:23They're winning numbers.

14:25Killed them.

14:26We need to try to trick another team into not watching games and just looking at numbers.

14:31You know what?

14:33He killed the Dolphins' playoff chances.

14:35They're done.

14:35That's it.

14:36It's over.

14:37They're not going to the playoffs.

14:39I'm 30 years old, 31.

14:41The Dolphins' 25 consecutive years will not make or will not win a playoff game.

14:50Yep.

14:50Why did they think DK Metcalf was a third grader and they're just going to grab him?

14:58That was funny, man.

14:59Man, he slammed by six people to the ground.

15:03Do y'all know how big this man is?

15:05That was crazy.

15:06And what about this Tomlin getting cutesy, throwing a toss play to Jonu Smith for a touchdown?

15:11Jonu Smith, 12-yard rushing cutty.

15:13I mean, just sticking it to them.

15:17I'll take him over, Ollie Gordon.

15:19He's like, oh, you're the run game guru?

15:21Watch this.

15:27The Miami Heat aren't doing much better, by the way.

15:30The only thing positive right now in South Florida is your haircut.

15:33He's got a boys in the hood haircut.

15:41It's just a bad angle from the camera.

15:44No, you look good, man.

15:45That's a good tape job.

15:46You do look good.

15:47He does.

15:48Temp-fade.

15:49When kid and play is on the mic, it's all right.

15:55You look like Doughboy.

15:57Thank you to the Florida Panthers.

16:03Thank you for playing a big game yesterday and winning.

16:07Yeah.

16:07In Tampa.

16:09You look like Drago off Rocky IV.

16:12That is.

16:12You got a little bit of a Drago working.

16:14I love it.

16:14I wish I could do that with my hair.

16:15I love that look.

16:17Yeah?

16:17Yeah.

16:19It looks good.

16:20It looks good.

16:20I wish I could do that.

16:21Even though my hairline used to start down here.

16:23Listen, it's still starting below where mine started.

16:26So, it looks thicker than it has in a long time.

16:31Did they add like a thickening spray or something?

16:33Yeah, a little Beijing.

16:35Did they?

16:36I'm being honest.

16:36No, no, no.

16:37It looks thicker than it has in a long time.

16:38No, but I went to a Cuban barbershop and I don't know what he did to my hair.

16:41They jump, pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa.

16:42And then all of a sudden, you have a full head of hair.

16:44Yeah.

16:45Got a little Jalen Brown.

16:46Where do you go, Jimmy?

16:48I go to a barbershop called Image.

16:51Image.

16:51You like it.

16:53And what do you ask them for when you walk in?

16:56I ask for a one and kind of like short my hair, but not too much.

17:02Oh, so you go to the barber, ask them to shorten your hair?

17:05I'm sure they don't hear that often.

17:10Hey, he does a great job.

17:11He does do a great job.

17:12Somebody says, Solana got the Ricky Martin post coming out.

17:15By the way, we have a big announcement coming up by 4 o'clock.

17:25My fiancee, I hope you're not listening.

17:29I think it looks good.

17:30I really do.

17:31Yeah, you live with me, the loka.

17:35The Heat lose yesterday.

17:44Just ridiculous.

17:45But I just want to say, regarding the Miami Heat quickly here, Niko Jovic genuinely had

17:49a really scary fall.

17:50They brought out the stretcher yesterday for Niko Jovic.

17:53And then he ended up running off the floor, smiling with his arm in an air cast.

17:57And the x-rays were negative yesterday, and I was just reading here in the Herald that

18:02the MRI also came back clean.

18:04So it looks like he just lacerated.

18:06They were being very, very cautious last night.

18:08I guess what everybody was afraid of was that there was so much blood on the ground, he lacerated

18:12his arm falling, which I've never seen before.

18:15But yeah.

18:17We can't right now.

18:19That team really changed.

18:20They lost five in a row.

18:22Something's off.

18:24And it wasn't Tyler Hero because he didn't play.

18:26Didn't play.

18:26But also weird.

18:27Late scratch.

18:28I don't know what's going on there.

18:30Right.

18:31Big toe contusion again.

18:33But I mean, hey, ice your toe, brother.

18:37All right, guys.

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18:48All right.

18:48Thanks, Manila.

18:50Aranda Gadsden is going to join us in the next segment.

18:53All right.

18:53Mm-hmm.

18:53Thank you, man.

18:54All right.

19:04All right.

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