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Columnist Dave Hyde joins The Joe Rose Show to debate whether the Miami Dolphins should tank for a top-five NFL draft pick, evaluate Malik Willis at quarterback, analyze the Miami Heat's early-season defensive struggles with Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bam Adebayo, check in on the Florida Panthers' injuries, and preview the Miami Hurricanes' massive noon matchup against Manny Diaz and Duke.
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00:00all right speaking of a man that's had a lot of integrity even though he is no longer with the
00:05sun sentinel integrity is i'm being serious dave you and i have laughed about this over the years
00:10when they're giving out free stuff at games and i take three and you go i'm gonna pass
00:15because you have you have integrity and you come up with this stuff i've been with you when you
00:23you're you're like you really you make sure you're on the integrity side i think tv the
00:29biggest bunch of frauds in the whole world about their integrity you saw this jc birch story right
00:34this thing i saw it i was up in orlando i was going topless i didn't get any credit for
00:40going
00:40topless at the place you know i was i was trying to be an influencer i was trying to influence
00:45it you
00:46know i don't have to have integrity anymore you're a bad guy you're just a bad bad man hey dave
00:51uh we
00:51got a lot of stuff going on in uh sports so i i gotta ask you the the question that
00:57woody continues
00:58to do and i'm trying to like just some things you just go okay everybody's entitled to their
01:04opinion and that is we got our one win now let's um let's play hard but let's you know lose
01:12the rest
01:12of games how do you feel about that i want to win every game you can and by the way
01:17i don't think
01:18it's going to be very many games but i want to go right there you're clutching your fist there you're
01:22very angry with that there's a lot of emotions going on with 26 years of holding it in you know
01:29and and this is the bangles game all over again by the way this is fair it's the bangles game
01:34where we're going to screw this whole thing up you know i want them to play hard and be competitive
01:39because we're not judging them by the scoreboard this year right but let's be honest the best thing
01:45at this point i mean is they don't win games right i mean they play hard they develop players
01:51everybody looks good you come out saying wow the defense was really good against the number one
01:55offense that those are the things you want to say but let's face it come draft day you don't want
02:00to
02:00be picking seventh which is i mean they're trending they're trending down they're trending they're
02:07playing so well and hard and you look at the chargers you look at the colts now you look at
02:12where the
02:13jets gonna be um the titans i mean they might drop out of the top five that would not be
02:18a good thing
02:19for the season let's just be honest right i i understand that and by the way don't back down
02:23off your stance no he's right i don't because i'm just looking at talent we have if these guys would
02:28stop coaching them up so much keep our damn guys getting the most out of these guys because
02:35i still believe we have the least amount of experience and talent of anybody in the in the nfl
02:40well you know the the good what the good news in that regard is now you you're on an offense
02:48that
02:48really has had trouble scoring points this year at times you're you're going with a quarterback who
02:54who's getting his first regular season start as you say joe um so i mean really what are they i
03:02was
03:02looking at the line and i was curious i was looking at the line for the colts came two and
03:05a half points
03:06basically a pick them game um so that tells you how bad the colts are right now yeah no i
03:14i understand
03:15and i gotta say this too because fans say this every time i leave the game now said joe i
03:22i know you you
03:23you're you're always saying hey we're we're building we got to do it this way and stuff but
03:28it is really hard and part of it is because this has been going on for 26 years different forms
03:35but
03:35teams that we thought were going to be good come up short things getting blown out in cold weather
03:41all those things just when you start to believe you got a good record you go to baltimore and
03:47lamar jackson hammers you with a perfect qb rating and that was like we went from maybe winning our
03:54division to you know to more disappointment what's the line in shawshank redemption at red says hope
04:03will make you insane and and i think that's where the dolphins fans are right now there's a bit of
04:07insanity to follow in this team right you know dave when when somebody's mad about what's going on i
04:13get it i i you can't go well i don't know why you're mad well you're not paying these prices
04:18joe i am
04:19and so i do understand the frustration because i see it here every day uh fans remind me when
04:25something doesn't look right or going forward it doesn't look right and then we have fans i do have
04:30fans come up say i understand what we're doing i just hope it happens quickly but i'm willing to
04:36give this thing a thing a chance and i you know it is hard i see both sides you know
04:42joe joe i'm in
04:43the on my uh where i'm writing columns now substack davehyde.substack.com i'm writing a three-part
04:50thing on the three big guys in in this you know john eric sullivan uh jeff halfley and malik
04:59willis and um this is what you signed up for that's what you know john eric sullivan is doing
05:06everything he said he would do and this season um as i don't really know if it's a frustrating season
05:13it's a realistic season because in february and and march and april when they laid out the plan this
05:20season is exactly what you sign up playing a lot of young guys developing them not looking at the
05:25scoreboard too much um and they're going to be judged on playing hard playing competitive and
05:33developing young players so next march you get there and you say here's what we got now we got
05:39money to spend what are we going to do malik willis is the question to me well i i agree
05:44first first of
05:45all i don't know how to judge him because of what's around second of all i he doesn't look comfortable
05:50in the pocket you got to win in the pocket in the nfl a quarterback does and now he's hurt
05:55which
05:55was always could he get through a season i don't know what they have there yeah and the other part
06:01is i don't know if they can evaluate with what they have around them from guys running the wrong routes
06:06the guys lack of experience the offensive line struggles blocking pass rushers uh and sometimes
06:11not having a running game it makes it very difficult in in all parts and and uh and i get
06:17it i i do
06:18know this that we don't have a lot of patience and and for good reason we we you can't expect
06:24to go through this and i'm pissed every time i leave the game and we lose you know with things
06:30and special teams making mistakes and offensively you know we get a good play and it gets called back
06:37because a hold all the frustrating things as you're driving home after one of these games
06:42and uh but i i understand we uh we have to go through it hey let me ask you uh
06:48heat basketball
06:49you feeling any better after this road trip coming home now for the first of five
06:55yannis is pretty much i think what we thought he was going to be what about the rest of the
07:00characters
07:01on this team yeah yannis has been dominant i mean you look at uh the numbers he's put up i
07:06don't really
07:06feel bad you feel better than that they're not uh one and ten or whatever um they're five and six
07:13um so they've steadied the ship a little with winning this homestand will tell us if they found
07:19some answers the surprise to me to everybody is their defense has been so bad um now they
07:28against some bad opponents on the road their defense was a lot better now was it them was it
07:33the opponents um again we're going to find out starting with cleveland on friday um coming out
07:39of training camp and preseason for them i thought they got it was it was all right and so high
07:46looking
07:46so good that um i'm surprised by how bad they started yeah well it's uh it's going to be interesting
07:55all of a sudden timmy hardaway jr has uh uh just a few minutes last two games and davian scored
08:04and
08:04he didn't play in the last game at all yeah and andrew wiggins went to the bench pella larson started
08:09the last game which was probably you know looking at it wiggins has been you expected him to be the
08:16third guy almost a perfect role for him where he's not asked to do too much but you know a
08:21nice two-way
08:22player on good teams through his career and uh you know he started bad and bam started bad
08:28offensively um which led to okay how look around the league there's not many teams in fact name
08:36another one where your two stars are two big men um and so you know that's going to take some
08:42time to
08:42figure out um you know the one thing going for them i think is spo is good at um finding
08:50answers
08:50yeah no no and we'll see we'll see if he can find answers here um so the panthers without
08:58two of their best players and you know we we've been through this before but they're supposed to be
09:02back um they're kind of flirting back and forth get a couple wins get a couple losses in a row
09:10how do you feel about the panthers once they get everybody back or is this like now we've been
09:15we've been doing this too much i don't know can they get their mojo back to just turn it on
09:20when everybody's back together i think so i mean you get you get your bark off as the freight train
09:27up the middle of the ice um you know you can make a case he's the best player certainly in
09:32the top five
09:33in the league and marchand you get back uh it's fascinating to me everywhere they go you know
09:40boston on sunday then washington everybody's just cocking they're they're they know oh we got we've
09:46got to fight them we got to fight them right from the great thing about this season for for me
09:50is
09:50how brady kachuk stepped in and after a you know he talked about the pressure of the first few games
09:57but now he's just fitting him perfectly and and being scored you know he's putting up numbers him and
10:05his brother are uh you know putting up numbers together i think what was matthew's assistant on
10:12eight of the ten goals by brady i believe so uh you know they're they're they're going to be fine
10:18um the the question will be with them is is the goaltending and and where's that go
10:24well it's uh it's going to be an interesting one and uh so i got to ask you about uh
10:29doing your
10:29podcast with uh with bo um how do you like the podcast world it's it's a mean-spirited
10:39i'm actually bet our podcast is okay we we have fun with it right the uh i'm doing one of
10:47those
10:47ira winderman on the heat too by the way but with bo the better part of it would be if
10:53someone could
10:53just get outtakes of us trying to figure out how to put it together two old guys trying in the
11:01modern
11:01world is my microphone why aren't you hearing me and it's like an hour of oh i actually turned off
11:07my microphone okay i didn't know how do i how do i get it back on yeah it is embarrassing
11:12um trying
11:13trying to fit into the modern world so but no it's a lot of fun actually you know what i
11:18like
11:18i'm independent now i don't have to answer to anybody if i don't want to do something i don't want
11:22to do it i don't i don't have to go to a dolphin practice and sit there for three hours
11:28and then
11:29wait another hour for someone to come out and and right answer questions that he knows what questions
11:35i'm going to ask and i know what questions they're going to answer so um you know i think i'll
11:39go play
11:39nine holes of golf instead well i gotta tell you that's it man now it's going to be the hobbies
11:43i'm
11:44waiting to see if you pick up golf everybody tries that golf i suck at it so i don't have
11:48the bug but
11:49a lot of guys go to that damn golf thing and uh and once you get the bug it is
11:54hard to stop but
11:55you're staying away from golf aren't you i'm actually playing nine holes this afternoon i actually i used
12:00to play golf and then uh uh with three kids and traveling uh it was either do i want to
12:06play
12:06walk golf or do i want to stay married so i skipped golf but that's a good one no i'm
12:12fishing in the
12:13back country in the keys joe and uh and enjoying life it's a lot of fun you you you'll see
12:19someday
12:19but you you know you got you got to manage your time i realize manage your time half the people
12:25who sound like my wife half the people who retire hate retirement what do i do i'm bored and the
12:31other
12:31half love retirement i'm i'm not sure which one i am yet it's too early in the game hey dave
12:36i want to
12:36ask you a serious question about uh print media uh in general i saw the herald had a major layoff
12:45too
12:45now um we're we're we're covering a lot of sports down here with very few people right now i don't
12:52know what the size um what's going on in palm beach post but what do they got three or four
12:57sports
12:57people now covering everything uh i think they're down to three now i believe uh wow what about sun
13:04sentinel three sun sentinel has four writers wow four writers for uh when i when i the herald has
13:13i think they have five i believe um but basically they're all roughly the same yeah we used to have
13:20yeah when i started at the sun sentinel in uh 90 going back whole different era of the world
13:27obviously uh 49 people in the sports department now there's eight and you know that that tells you
13:34it's it's just a dying industry and they're not not even really trying to be interesting anymore and
13:39and um it's not just here it's it's across the nation um you know what nobody knows how to get
13:48out
13:48in front of um you know of relevance anymore so uh and basically the papers down here cover the
13:57dolphins because it's the nfl and it's the dolphins they cover the heat because the heat have been a
14:03blue chip front and and they and they try to fill in the cracks anywhere else and incredible um yeah
14:10it
14:10is it's embarrassing it was embarrassing for me to go out here the panthers are two stanley cut i'd go
14:16out there and no one from the sun sentinel have been out there for three weeks or something and i'd
14:20have to you know so so look look um i didn't want to be the last dinosaur going down in
14:27the labretar pit
14:28you know and and i wasn't the last because a lot of people are following me down into the you
14:33know
14:36newspapers it's a troubled entry sub stack joe that's where the future is there you go how do i get
14:42a hold of you again dave before i ask you about the miami hurricanes go ahead one more time yeah
14:47davehyde.substack.com read my columns videos you know it's a new new world for me it's my second act
14:53it's a lot of fun all right so canes eight and one against duke um who by the way i
14:59think manny dia
15:00is going to be the florida state head coach here coming up here soon uh 12 o'clock start you
15:06worried
15:06about the canes and in your opinion do the canes look anything like last year's team no and and i
15:13think the notre dame game showed look they weren't going to be the same on the lines right mario
15:20christopher his identity the pillars of his philosophy of football are physicality on the offensive and
15:26defensive lines and they were so good last year at it and look they lost two first round picks off
15:35the
15:35defensive line um a first and a third and i believe a fifth off the offense you don't replace
15:40that overnight or even in one season and so there's a development process going on and you saw
15:47it it's not there yet as notre dame show now can they use that as a it wasn't just notre
15:54dame really
15:55is north carolina florida state showed it too but they took the loss at notre dame um can they get
16:02malachi tony back at some point in in for the playoffs assuming they make the playoffs and and
16:09there's a perfume that will cover up some of the warts on the team right because he's so good and
16:13that offense is so good with them um but no it's not the same team nor should we probably expect
16:19it to
16:20be the same team still it's a pretty good team for all the questions they had against notre dame uh
16:25they came back and and uh made it a controversial catch game and and you know so so they can
16:35play
16:35with anybody um but it's a different team because last year you look at the playoff run the motor
16:41um to everything was their physicality on the line and that's how they beat texas a&m it's how they
16:48beat
16:48ohio state um and and understandably it's not that this year well i'll just uh the game i worry about
16:56the most is this 12 o'clock game against duke who quietly is seven and two um manny diaz is
17:04a coach
17:04there obviously he was a head coach here his quarterback and number one wide receiver now here
17:11uh i just think uh this is going to be one hell of a football game i know it's i
17:15think it's like a
17:16two score i think it's 14 point 15 point spread but um i think people if uh if you this
17:23a playoff
17:23game is as uh mario has said over and over again uh they got to get off to a good
17:29start in this game
17:30and it starts this saturday at 12 o'clock day for sure yeah i think the one thing loud and
17:35clear that
17:35the committee sent to the acc you're only going to get one team in and uh you know unless something
17:42really changes in the last few weeks so all these you're right all these are playoff games duke
17:49seven and two manny diaz um you know manny didn't i i don't want to say an unfair shake but
17:56look how this program has changed since they start spending money they start spending money joe
18:02echevarria came in and said we're remaking the athletic our philosophy is changing we're going to
18:06spend money yeah and and and manny to me is one of the great stories in sports uh he started
18:12as an
18:13espn producer and think of that out of college florida state goes to espn he's a producer on one
18:20of the nfl shows and then talking to those guys he goes they said you know you should be a
18:25coach
18:25because of his thoughts he went back to florida state lived in the athletic dorm with his wife
18:30lived lived next to antoine roll uh or antoine roll excuse me and um and you know as as a
18:39volunteer defensive mind consultant whatever those you know almost unpaid he had a job in the mail
18:45with the post office a part-time job to help support him and out of that he rose up to
18:50to this career
18:51he's one of the great stories in sports and now he's got a reputation as a as a great defensive
18:56coordinator and on top of that now as uh maybe a hot head coach once uh once this season is
19:03done
19:03dave thank you man welcome back good to have you buddy great seeing you joe keep going you too yeah
19:09dave hi joining us here uh you can get him on dave hi dot substack dot com i think i
19:15got that right i
19:16hope i didn't screw that up yeah you're nodding i got okay good stuff
19:19i hope i didn't screw that up