More takeaways from the Miami Dolphins loss to Buffalo including Tua's frustrating interception and overall poor play late in games. Plus, does last night change McDaniel's future with the team?
00:00The Miami Dolphins lose yesterday, gentlemen, and they have dropped to 0-3.
00:08The Zach Seeler roughing into the punter.
00:11Penalty was a backbreaker, and then Tua throws the game-sealing interception.
00:16Technically, the Dolphins could try to get a stop, but you just knew that wasn't going to happen.
00:20And that is all she wrote.
00:22Dolphins dropped to 0-3 on Thursday night football.
00:24No one saw that coming, right?
00:26None of us had. As bad as some of you thought the Dolphins were going to be, none of us thought 0-3 was a possibility.
00:33No. Not in a million years.
00:36I thought there was no way they lose to the Colts. They got embarrassed by them.
00:40You knew the Bills were going to be a tough game, and I didn't know what the Pats were going to be, but I never thought 0-3 would be a possibility.
00:46I think we looked at the beginning of the schedule.
00:48We said, hey, Colts, Patriots, Jets, you probably got three wins there,
00:54so at least you bank a few wins at the beginning of the season.
00:57I said 3-1, and then we're going to get into the tough part of the schedule.
01:04Well, I actually think it's kind of easy coming up, isn't it?
01:08I mean, I say that with a grain of salt because all the teams looking at the Dolphins on their schedule are saying,
01:17oh, it gets kind of easy here, we play the Dolphins.
01:20No, no, but in terms of how it looks later on, you have matchups, the Browns, the Jets, the Carolina Panthers.
01:27There's winnable games.
01:29I mean, the Dolphins, guys, the Dolphins, if they don't make any sort of major changes here,
01:34they're probably going to win six to seven games, or five to six games at least.
01:37So let's say they've started 0-3.
01:40Let's say they beat the Jets.
01:42Do we think they'll beat the Jets Monday night at home?
01:44Well, toss-up.
01:48With the points, toss-up.
01:49Like, honestly, toss-up.
01:50They're not going to be getting points.
01:53Actually, guys, Darren Waller's supposed to play that game on Monday night.
01:57So, yeah, I've got the Dolphins by 20.
01:59I've got the Dolphins by 20.
02:00That's fair.
02:01Because then you've got the Panthers after that.
02:03I know Solana loves Bryce Young, but I am not a believer in him.
02:09I think the Dolphins can beat the Jets, beat the Panthers.
02:12Then they've got the Chargers.
02:13That doesn't look good, because they look good.
02:16Mm-mm.
02:17They can beat the Browns.
02:20Man, I don't even think they can beat the Falcons.
02:22No, Falcons are rolling.
02:24They've got the Commanders later on.
02:26How long is Jaden Daniels going to be out?
02:28Do we know?
02:28I know Marcus Mariota is starting this weekend for the Commanders.
02:32He's not going to be out until Thanksgiving.
02:36Damn it!
02:37It's November 16th.
02:41Damn it!
02:41He has a sprained ankle.
02:47Steelers, Bengals, Bucs.
02:49This schedule's not easy, fellas.
02:51I'm not going to lie to you.
02:52It's why you had to win those first two games.
02:57It's why you had to take advantage of the early...
02:59I mean, you know, we talked about this before the season.
03:02They had to take advantage of the early games.
03:04They needed a fast start.
03:08It's not looking good.
03:0913-4 still in play, though, Hawk.
03:1113-4 still in play.
03:13Still in play.
03:13They can beat the Jets, and they can beat the Panthers.
03:17That's 2-3.
03:18They're not beating the Chargers.
03:20That's 2-4.
03:21Now they're 3-4 after the Browns game.
03:23The Browns are bad.
03:253-4?
03:26Is that, like, fireable?
03:29You know, that's what...
03:29We have to do that now.
03:31Well, it's 3-4 with zero hope of ever beating a good team.
03:36So, I don't think there's much...
03:38I just don't think there's much that can happen this season.
03:41Unless you believe that there's going to be this miraculous turnaround.
03:43Do you see any way towards the end of the season
03:45that they compete with Baltimore or Buffalo when Buffalo comes to town?
03:50No, and it's crazy...
03:51But you guys, you're taking away...
03:53Crowder, you're leaving that game yesterday saying
03:56they've got to make a change at head coach.
03:58Look, I'm not trying to defend Mike McDaniel here.
04:01I'm not trying to defend Mike McDaniel.
04:02No, I just don't think he's going to last beyond this season
04:04because I don't think there's going to be enough this season.
04:06I'm telling you, last night was the first night
04:09that I sat on the couch and smiled at the game plan
04:12that Mike McDaniel called.
04:14Like, I felt good about...
04:16Because I really like him,
04:17and I've enjoyed rooting for him for three seasons.
04:21And so, like, that felt good to me last night.
04:24Because we were talking about lack of culture,
04:27losing the locker room, players quitting on him.
04:29Hawk, you mentioned after New England,
04:31didn't look like a team that quit on him.
04:33And yesterday, bottom line...
04:36And again, Mike McDaniel, I agree,
04:37shouldn't make it past this season.
04:39I think we've seen the body of work.
04:41But man, I came away from that game yesterday saying
04:43Mike McDaniel put his team in a position to win,
04:47coached a great game yesterday
04:49against a team that's owned him,
04:51and his captain on the defensive side of the football
04:54let him down,
04:55and the highest-paid player,
04:57the face of the organization,
04:58and Tua Tungavailoa let him down.
05:01Wasn't Mike McDaniel.
05:02I don't know how anybody could leave that game
05:04saying they've got to fire Mike McDaniel.
05:06Alana, I love...
05:08What was it, Kyle Long, that said this?
05:10The organizational organization...
05:12Whatever he said.
05:15It's not just Mike McDaniel.
05:17It's a bigger...
05:18You brought up the captain.
05:19You brought up Tua.
05:20Is Tua the guy?
05:21Because they were roasting Tua on the broadcast.
05:25Is Tua the guy?
05:26You paid Seeler.
05:27You paid all these people.
05:29Are they really the people to put you in position?
05:31That's a Chris Greer thing
05:32of the decisions made on the roster.
05:35Can Mike McDaniel take this team to win a playoff game?
05:39Even after what you saw last night
05:41and he called a good game?
05:42He hasn't won a playoff game yet.
05:44Also, you'd have to ignore what happened game one and two
05:47and only start judging him what happened last night,
05:50which isn't fair either.
05:52No, no.
05:52But that's my point.
05:54Like, hey, I think everybody's on the same page at this point.
05:58I think after week one.
05:59This core, this window is long gone.
06:04Like, you have to total reset.
06:06And I'm not saying, you know,
06:07get rid of every player on the team.
06:09I think there's some young, decent talent
06:11that you want to build around.
06:12But guys, let's be honest here.
06:14I mean, Tua Tungabailoa is not going to lead you anywhere
06:17as your starting quarterback.
06:18I'm sorry if you disagree with that.
06:20I'm sorry.
06:21We've been through three games this season.
06:23And he played a decent game yesterday.
06:26And he showed mobility.
06:28And there's some positive takeaways.
06:29And I'm not even blaming the interception completely on him,
06:32even though it is his fault.
06:34But, like, this team, this roster build is done.
06:38It's cooked.
06:39And I think you have to clean house at the end of the season.
06:42I'm just not saying, hey, right now,
06:44the fix is firing Mike McDaniel because what does that do?
06:48You're taking away your play caller who yesterday called a great game.
06:52I don't understand how that fixes anything in the short term.
06:55I just don't think that if they start 0-4
06:58and they've lost to every team in their division
07:01that there's much hope for him to control the locker room
07:07and the team and whatever.
07:08It just is what it is.
07:10You could say, oh, he's gotten precipitously better from week one to week four.
07:14Oh, they're starting to get it.
07:15But it's like, what are you doing?
07:19The thing with Tua, and I don't know if I'm getting caught up,
07:23and the philosopher Denzel said,
07:26if you have no information, you're uninformed.
07:29If you have all the information, you're misinformed.
07:32So this morning I went down to a wormhole of this video
07:36that everybody was playing with the Brants and the, what's his name,
07:41Baldies and the Ochos.
07:44And they were showing more than the interception on Tua.
07:46So I might be misinformed by watching this for two hours this morning.
07:52But Tua, he might not be that dude that's going to win that playoff game.
07:58It certainly doesn't look like it.
08:00Might?
08:02Solana, I've been arguing this.
08:03I'm giving you some credit, but I don't want to agree with you
08:05because it always backfires on me.
08:07He might not be that dude that we need to win that playoff game we're hunting for.
08:11I think yesterday, I'm so sick of people analyzing the one interception.
08:18Like if it proves anything.
08:20Oh, look, Tua can't read a deep.
08:22Tua literally completed that pass last week against New England.
08:25The Buffalo Bills, middle linebacker, saw the tape, recognized how the Dolphins came out,
08:34lined up, and he knew exactly where the ball was going, but also the offensive line.
08:39I mean, something that really bothered me, and it goes back to Mike McDaniel,
08:43Keon Smith yesterday started at right guard.
08:45Started at right guard last week as well.
08:47The Dolphins were rushing the football.
08:48They looked good.
08:49And I'm not saying he played great.
08:51We'll have to look at how he graded out.
08:52But they replaced him with the backup center in Brunskill.
08:56Why?
08:57That's the guy who literally got embarrassed.
09:01And on that interception, Tua has a 350-pound guy running straight at his face.
09:05He had to get rid of the ball quickly.
09:06I hate the overanalyzing of one play.
09:09Bottom line, the offensive line, the right guard got blown up.
09:12Brunskill.
09:13Tua had somebody in his face.
09:14He had to get rid of the ball quickly.
09:15And the middle linebacker, Crowder, just made a good play.
09:17Made a great read.
09:18Studied tape and knew where the ball was going.
09:20Tua makes that throw a million times.
09:23That specific play shouldn't tell anybody anything other than Tua in the clutch.
09:27Not so great.
09:28Dolphins offensive line, trash.
09:30Body of work, though, guys.
09:31Come on.
09:32What are we doing here?
09:33Tua's a good average quarterback.
09:35He is not elite.
09:36Period.
09:37End of story.
09:38And he'll never be a better.
09:39He was better than average before this season.
09:40He was better than average.
09:42I'm not.
09:43He's a starter.
09:45He's one of the best 32 quarterbacks in the world.
09:47But can Tua get to the guys' names we bring up?
09:51Lamars and Burroughs and even Herbert is looking amazing this season.
09:56Has Tua hit his ceiling?
09:59I think so.
10:00I started feeling that way last night.
10:02Yes.
10:03Because even during a good game, you're not just overly impressed by these passes here.
10:09I mean, his passing yardage was anemic.
10:12Even though he was having a decent game and they were in it at Buffalo, the yardage was
10:18anemic.
10:198-4-11 for 81.
10:21Huh?
10:23I mean, that's not a guy that you pay that much money to.
10:25Like, that's what you get from someone who you're using as a Band-Aid for a season or
10:31two.
10:32And hey, don't hurt him too bad.
10:33But there are guys.
10:34Watch Jake Browning.
10:36Jake Browning now, starting for the Bengals.
10:38Watch his numbers.
10:39And he's not a hit.
10:41They're not going to be impressive, but he's going to throw for two-something.
10:47But really quickly, because I know we're up against it, I get what you're saying about
10:49the yardage.
10:50That's frustrating.
10:51But there's guys like Josh Allen.
10:53He can go out there and have a game.
10:54For example, last year against the Dolphins, he averaged less than 200 yards passing.
10:58He didn't need to pass.
10:59But then when the game is down to the wire, late in that fourth quarter last year in Buffalo,
11:04he made plays.
11:05I don't care if Tua has 500 yards or 44 yards.
11:08But at the end of the day, in the clutch, you have to perform.
11:11That's when you have to turn on the lights, Hawk, and go and get your team in a position
11:15to win the game.
11:16And for two straight weeks, when the season looks like it's totally lost, he threw an
11:21interception.
11:22Like that, I don't focus on like the stats.
11:25Josh Allen, though, when he's got anemic throwing yards, he's still going to have 45 yards
11:30rushing.
11:31For sure.
11:31And, you know, two scrambles for first downs.
11:33He's going to win you the game.
11:35Listen, man, we haven't brought it up.
11:38The underhand pitch touchdown to the top.
11:40Come on.
11:41Oh, my God.
11:42You're little babying us.
11:44I do that in the backyard.
11:46He was toying with that defense.
11:49Toying with them.
11:50That was unbelievable.
11:52I jumped off my couch.
11:53What is it called?
11:54Solana glazing?
11:55I didn't want to glaze today, but it was some impressive things done last night.
12:00That's why Tua was glazing him right before the game.
12:02It's like, oh, I can do everything I can't do.
12:05All right.
12:06Canes tomorrow.
12:07That's the big headline, obviously.
12:09And the Dolphins are off until the following Monday night.
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