00:00The Miami Dolphins lose yesterday, gentlemen, and they have dropped to 0-3.
00:08The Zach Seeler roughing into the punter.
00:11Penalty was a backbreaker, and then Tua throws the game-sealing interception.
00:16Technically, the Dolphins could try to get a stop, but you just knew that wasn't going to happen.
00:20And that is all she wrote.
00:22Dolphins dropped to 0-3 on Thursday night football.
00:24No one saw that coming, right?
00:26None of us had. As bad as some of you thought the Dolphins were going to be, none of us thought 0-3 was a possibility.
00:33No. Not in a million years.
00:36I thought there was no way they lose to the Colts. They got embarrassed by them.
00:40You knew the Bills were going to be a tough game, and I didn't know what the Pats were going to be, but I never thought 0-3 would be a possibility.
00:46I think we looked at the beginning of the schedule.
00:48We said, hey, Colts, Patriots, Jets, you probably got three wins there,
00:54so at least you bank a few wins at the beginning of the season.
00:57I said 3-1, and then we're going to get into the tough part of the schedule.
01:04Well, I actually think it's kind of easy coming up, isn't it?
01:08I mean, I say that with a grain of salt because all the teams looking at the Dolphins on their schedule are saying,
01:17oh, it gets kind of easy here, we play the Dolphins.
01:20No, no, but in terms of how it looks later on, you have matchups, the Browns, the Jets, the Carolina Panthers.
01:27There's winnable games.
01:29I mean, the Dolphins, guys, the Dolphins, if they don't make any sort of major changes here,
01:34they're probably going to win six to seven games, or five to six games at least.
01:37So let's say they've started 0-3.
01:40Let's say they beat the Jets.
01:42Do we think they'll beat the Jets Monday night at home?
01:44Well, toss-up.
01:48With the points, toss-up.
01:49Like, honestly, toss-up.
01:50They're not going to be getting points.
01:53Actually, guys, Darren Waller's supposed to play that game on Monday night.
01:57So, yeah, I've got the Dolphins by 20.
01:59I've got the Dolphins by 20.
02:00That's fair.
02:01Because then you've got the Panthers after that.
02:03I know Solana loves Bryce Young, but I am not a believer in him.
02:09I think the Dolphins can beat the Jets, beat the Panthers.
02:12Then they've got the Chargers.
02:13That doesn't look good, because they look good.
02:16Mm-mm.
02:17They can beat the Browns.
02:20Man, I don't even think they can beat the Falcons.
02:22No, Falcons are rolling.
02:24They've got the Commanders later on.
02:26How long is Jaden Daniels going to be out?
02:28Do we know?
02:28I know Marcus Mariota is starting this weekend for the Commanders.
02:32He's not going to be out until Thanksgiving.
02:36Damn it!
02:37It's November 16th.
02:41Damn it!
02:41He has a sprained ankle.
02:47Steelers, Bengals, Bucs.
02:49This schedule's not easy, fellas.
02:51I'm not going to lie to you.
02:52It's why you had to win those first two games.
02:57It's why you had to take advantage of the early...
02:59I mean, you know, we talked about this before the season.
03:02They had to take advantage of the early games.
03:04They needed a fast start.
03:08It's not looking good.
03:0913-4 still in play, though, Hawk.
03:1113-4 still in play.
03:13Still in play.
03:13They can beat the Jets, and they can beat the Panthers.
03:17That's 2-3.
03:18They're not beating the Chargers.
03:20That's 2-4.
03:21Now they're 3-4 after the Browns game.
03:23The Browns are bad.
03:253-4?
03:26Is that, like, fireable?
03:29You know, that's what...
03:29We have to do that now.
03:31Well, it's 3-4 with zero hope of ever beating a good team.
03:36So, I don't think there's much...
03:38I just don't think there's much that can happen this season.
03:41Unless you believe that there's going to be this miraculous turnaround.
03:43Do you see any way towards the end of the season
03:45that they compete with Baltimore or Buffalo when Buffalo comes to town?
03:50No, and it's crazy...
03:51But you guys, you're taking away...
03:53Crowder, you're leaving that game yesterday saying
03:56they've got to make a change at head coach.
03:58Look, I'm not trying to defend Mike McDaniel here.
04:01I'm not trying to defend Mike McDaniel.
04:02No, I just don't think he's going to last beyond this season
04:04because I don't think there's going to be enough this season.
04:06I'm telling you, last night was the first night
04:09that I sat on the couch and smiled at the game plan
04:12that Mike McDaniel called.
04:14Like, I felt good about...
04:16Because I really like him,
04:17and I've enjoyed rooting for him for three seasons.
04:21And so, like, that felt good to me last night.
04:24Because we were talking about lack of culture,
04:27losing the locker room, players quitting on him.
04:29Hawk, you mentioned after New England,
04:31didn't look like a team that quit on him.
04:33And yesterday, bottom line...
04:36And again, Mike McDaniel, I agree,
04:37shouldn't make it past this season.
04:39I think we've seen the body of work.
04:41But man, I came away from that game yesterday saying
04:43Mike McDaniel put his team in a position to win,
04:47coached a great game yesterday
04:49against a team that's owned him,
04:51and his captain on the defensive side of the football
04:54let him down,
04:55and the highest-paid player,
04:57the face of the organization,
04:58and Tua Tungavailoa let him down.
05:01Wasn't Mike McDaniel.
05:02I don't know how anybody could leave that game
05:04saying they've got to fire Mike McDaniel.
05:06Alana, I love...
05:08What was it, Kyle Long, that said this?
05:10The organizational organization...
05:12Whatever he said.
05:15It's not just Mike McDaniel.
05:17It's a bigger...
05:18You brought up the captain.
05:19You brought up Tua.
05:20Is Tua the guy?
05:21Because they were roasting Tua on the broadcast.
05:25Is Tua the guy?
05:26You paid Seeler.
05:27You paid all these people.
05:29Are they really the people to put you in position?
05:31That's a Chris Greer thing
05:32of the decisions made on the roster.
05:35Can Mike McDaniel take this team to win a playoff game?
05:39Even after what you saw last night
05:41and he called a good game?
05:42He hasn't won a playoff game yet.
05:44Also, you'd have to ignore what happened game one and two
05:47and only start judging him what happened last night,
05:50which isn't fair either.
05:52No, no.
05:52But that's my point.
05:54Like, hey, I think everybody's on the same page at this point.
05:58I think after week one.
05:59This core, this window is long gone.
06:04Like, you have to total reset.
06:06And I'm not saying, you know,
06:07get rid of every player on the team.
06:09I think there's some young, decent talent
06:11that you want to build around.
06:12But guys, let's be honest here.
06:14I mean, Tua Tungabailoa is not going to lead you anywhere
06:17as your starting quarterback.
06:18I'm sorry if you disagree with that.
06:20I'm sorry.
06:21We've been through three games this season.
06:23And he played a decent game yesterday.
06:26And he showed mobility.
06:28And there's some positive takeaways.
06:29And I'm not even blaming the interception completely on him,
06:32even though it is his fault.
06:34But, like, this team, this roster build is done.
06:38It's cooked.
06:39And I think you have to clean house at the end of the season.
06:42I'm just not saying, hey, right now,
06:44the fix is firing Mike McDaniel because what does that do?
06:48You're taking away your play caller who yesterday called a great game.
06:52I don't understand how that fixes anything in the short term.
06:55I just don't think that if they start 0-4
06:58and they've lost to every team in their division
07:01that there's much hope for him to control the locker room
07:07and the team and whatever.
07:08It just is what it is.
07:10You could say, oh, he's gotten precipitously better from week one to week four.
07:14Oh, they're starting to get it.
07:15But it's like, what are you doing?
07:19The thing with Tua, and I don't know if I'm getting caught up,
07:23and the philosopher Denzel said,
07:26if you have no information, you're uninformed.
07:29If you have all the information, you're misinformed.
07:32So this morning I went down to a wormhole of this video
07:36that everybody was playing with the Brants and the, what's his name,
07:41Baldies and the Ochos.
07:44And they were showing more than the interception on Tua.
07:46So I might be misinformed by watching this for two hours this morning.
07:52But Tua, he might not be that dude that's going to win that playoff game.
07:58It certainly doesn't look like it.
08:00Might?
08:02Solana, I've been arguing this.
08:03I'm giving you some credit, but I don't want to agree with you
08:05because it always backfires on me.
08:07He might not be that dude that we need to win that playoff game we're hunting for.
08:11I think yesterday, I'm so sick of people analyzing the one interception.
08:18Like if it proves anything.
08:20Oh, look, Tua can't read a deep.
08:22Tua literally completed that pass last week against New England.
08:25The Buffalo Bills, middle linebacker, saw the tape, recognized how the Dolphins came out,
08:34lined up, and he knew exactly where the ball was going, but also the offensive line.
08:39I mean, something that really bothered me, and it goes back to Mike McDaniel,
08:43Keon Smith yesterday started at right guard.
08:45Started at right guard last week as well.
08:47The Dolphins were rushing the football.
08:48They looked good.
08:49And I'm not saying he played great.
08:51We'll have to look at how he graded out.
08:52But they replaced him with the backup center in Brunskill.
08:56Why?
08:57That's the guy who literally got embarrassed.
09:01And on that interception, Tua has a 350-pound guy running straight at his face.
09:05He had to get rid of the ball quickly.
09:06I hate the overanalyzing of one play.
09:09Bottom line, the offensive line, the right guard got blown up.
09:12Brunskill.
09:13Tua had somebody in his face.
09:14He had to get rid of the ball quickly.
09:15And the middle linebacker, Crowder, just made a good play.
09:17Made a great read.
09:18Studied tape and knew where the ball was going.
09:20Tua makes that throw a million times.
09:23That specific play shouldn't tell anybody anything other than Tua in the clutch.
09:27Not so great.
09:28Dolphins offensive line, trash.
09:30Body of work, though, guys.
09:31Come on.
09:32What are we doing here?
09:33Tua's a good average quarterback.
09:35He is not elite.
09:36Period.
09:37End of story.
09:38And he'll never be a better.
09:39He was better than average before this season.
09:40He was better than average.
09:42I'm not.
09:43He's a starter.
09:45He's one of the best 32 quarterbacks in the world.
09:47But can Tua get to the guys' names we bring up?
09:51Lamars and Burroughs and even Herbert is looking amazing this season.
09:56Has Tua hit his ceiling?
09:59I think so.
10:00I started feeling that way last night.
10:02Yes.
10:03Because even during a good game, you're not just overly impressed by these passes here.
10:09I mean, his passing yardage was anemic.
10:12Even though he was having a decent game and they were in it at Buffalo, the yardage was
10:18anemic.
10:198-4-11 for 81.
10:21Huh?
10:23I mean, that's not a guy that you pay that much money to.
10:25Like, that's what you get from someone who you're using as a Band-Aid for a season or
10:31two.
10:32And hey, don't hurt him too bad.
10:33But there are guys.
10:34Watch Jake Browning.
10:36Jake Browning now, starting for the Bengals.
10:38Watch his numbers.
10:39And he's not a hit.
10:41They're not going to be impressive, but he's going to throw for two-something.
10:47But really quickly, because I know we're up against it, I get what you're saying about
10:49the yardage.
10:50That's frustrating.
10:51But there's guys like Josh Allen.
10:53He can go out there and have a game.
10:54For example, last year against the Dolphins, he averaged less than 200 yards passing.
10:58He didn't need to pass.
10:59But then when the game is down to the wire, late in that fourth quarter last year in Buffalo,
11:04he made plays.
11:05I don't care if Tua has 500 yards or 44 yards.
11:08But at the end of the day, in the clutch, you have to perform.
11:11That's when you have to turn on the lights, Hawk, and go and get your team in a position
11:15to win the game.
11:16And for two straight weeks, when the season looks like it's totally lost, he threw an
11:21interception.
11:22Like that, I don't focus on like the stats.
11:25Josh Allen, though, when he's got anemic throwing yards, he's still going to have 45 yards
11:30rushing.
11:31For sure.
11:31And, you know, two scrambles for first downs.
11:33He's going to win you the game.
11:35Listen, man, we haven't brought it up.
11:38The underhand pitch touchdown to the top.
11:40Come on.
11:41Oh, my God.
11:42You're little babying us.
11:44I do that in the backyard.
11:46He was toying with that defense.
11:49Toying with them.
11:50That was unbelievable.
11:52I jumped off my couch.
11:53What is it called?
11:54Solana glazing?
11:55I didn't want to glaze today, but it was some impressive things done last night.
12:00That's why Tua was glazing him right before the game.
12:02It's like, oh, I can do everything I can't do.
12:05All right.
12:06Canes tomorrow.
12:07That's the big headline, obviously.
12:09And the Dolphins are off until the following Monday night.
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