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00:00:30Welcome to the football show

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00:01:10And in the studio today,

00:01:11we've got Alan Ruff and Alec Ray

00:01:13with us to look back over

00:01:15the Scottish Premiership fixtures

00:01:16over Saturday and Sunday.

00:01:19So much to talk about.

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00:01:50So with Ruff and Alec Ray here with me,

00:01:53there's lots to talk about.

00:01:54Hamden sells the naming rights.

00:01:55There's a Scottish Cup fourth round draw,

00:01:57which Patrick Thistle are in.

00:02:00Wilford Nonsi still not in the job at Celtic.

00:02:02Martin O'Neill's in place for the match against Dundee.

00:02:05Danny Rule is ready to wield the axe at Rangers

00:02:08as they again are firing blanks against Falkirk.

00:02:12Robinson, that's Stevie,

00:02:13is putting cup final places at risk

00:02:15for St Mirren players who are not delivering

00:02:17as they sit perilously close to the bottom of the table.

00:02:21And Billy Gilmore's going to get surgery.

00:02:23There's no time limit on his return at Napoli,

00:02:27but it's certainly a worry

00:02:28as everybody wants to try and stay fit

00:02:31heading up to the World Cup in the summer.

00:02:34So with that in mind,

00:02:36before we get to the weekend's results

00:02:38from Saturday and Sunday, Ruffey,

00:02:40the SFA have signed a multi-million pound

00:02:43long-term partnership with Bartley's Bank

00:02:46and it'll become Bartley's Hamden.

00:02:48That's the new name.

00:02:49It's the first of its kind,

00:02:52this historic deal.

00:02:53I think it's a great bit of business

00:02:55and they'll also partner

00:02:57with the Men's and Women's Scottish Cup.

00:02:59At the moment,

00:03:00that's sponsored by Scottish Gas

00:03:01and they're going to become the main sponsor

00:03:04to the next-gen girls' performance programme as well.

00:03:07That's fantastic.

00:03:08Yeah, obviously when the SFA get the money,

00:03:10you would expect it would filter down to everybody,

00:03:13all the boys and the girls

00:03:15and whatever under 17, 16,

00:03:18just to promote the game.

00:03:19I saw they were very active

00:03:21in trying to get the Women's World Cup final,

00:03:23which will generate a lot of money again

00:03:26and be good for women's football.

00:03:28So no, I think it's a good investment.

00:03:30I think the things have moved on

00:03:31now if anybody wants to call it Hamden,

00:03:34they can call it Hamden.

00:03:35You know, but certainly

00:03:36with that amount of money they're getting,

00:03:38they couldn't say no.

00:03:39Yeah, absolutely.

00:03:40I mean, Ruffy,

00:03:41we'd sell the naming rights to the studio

00:03:43if we could get away with it, wouldn't we?

00:03:45Anyone.

00:03:45I'd sell the naming rights to me.

00:03:48Absolutely.

00:03:50It's a stonewall certainty.

00:03:51Listen, anything that brings money into the game

00:03:53at grassroots level is brilliant.

00:03:55Yeah, without doubt.

00:03:56I think it's encouraging.

00:03:57They're obviously going to invest in

00:03:58the men's and women's,

00:03:59you were saying as well,

00:04:00which is the way forward.

00:04:03I don't really see any,

00:04:04I know there'll be people out there going,

00:04:06oh, I don't like that,

00:04:07but it's a business they're trying to run

00:04:08and money has been at a premium

00:04:10due to not getting to major tournaments

00:04:12in recent years.

00:04:14So obviously it got to the Euros the last couple

00:04:16and World Cup,

00:04:18which will generate more funds

00:04:19and then that filters down through the system

00:04:21and I think it's really positive.

00:04:24Yeah, absolutely.

00:04:25For not only the men,

00:04:26but the women as well,

00:04:28boys and girls,

00:04:29which is fantastic.

00:04:30Scottish Cup fourth round draw

00:04:32was made at the weekend.

00:04:33Aberdeen against Wraith Rovers.

00:04:35Airdre-Oriens will play Arbroath.

00:04:37Auchinleck-Talbott have a home tie

00:04:38against Celtic.

00:04:39Cameland Juniors against Elgin City.

00:04:42Dundee United against Airdre United.

00:04:44Dunfermline at home to Hibbs.

00:04:45It's a return to Easter Road

00:04:47for Neil Lennon,

00:04:48a former manager there.

00:04:49Hearts will play Falkirk.

00:04:50That's a toughie.

00:04:52Kelty Hearts against Cove Rangers.

00:04:53Comarnock-Dundee.

00:04:55Livingston will take on St Mirren.

00:04:57Motherwell-Ross County.

00:04:58Partick Thistle.

00:04:59These two will be looking on

00:05:01as they are at home against Montrose.

00:05:03Rangers take on Annen Athletic.

00:05:05Spartans against Trinend

00:05:06or Inverness Cali Thistle.

00:05:08Stenhouse-Muir will take on Greenock-Morton

00:05:10and it's Strenraer against Queen's Park.

00:05:13That's a good draw for you?

00:05:14Yeah, just a home draw

00:05:15Peter and

00:05:16we've got a couple of away games

00:05:18currently

00:05:18so it'll be great to get back

00:05:20to

00:05:21Firhill

00:05:22but listen,

00:05:22I think at any stage

00:05:23you just want a home draw

00:05:24and

00:05:25we'll be respectful

00:05:27to the opponents

00:05:28and we'll try our utmost

00:05:29to get through that

00:05:29because

00:05:30the rewards

00:05:31that it generates

00:05:31going through

00:05:32and there's obviously

00:05:33a couple of ties

00:05:34that potentially

00:05:35if you can get through this one

00:05:37may well be

00:05:38there'll be a couple of

00:05:39smaller teams

00:05:40still remaining

00:05:40in the next round

00:05:41so I think

00:05:42Auchinleck

00:05:43is the big

00:05:44talking point for that draw

00:05:45Peter, when it come through

00:05:46you've just seen their reaction

00:05:48it was tremendous.

00:05:48Yeah, the one thing I would say

00:05:50that a lot of people

00:05:51are aware of

00:05:52and certainly Auchinleck

00:05:53will be aware of it

00:05:54is the revenue

00:05:54that can be generated

00:05:55as you found out

00:05:58you know

00:05:58Thistle certainly

00:05:59found out last season

00:06:00Ruffy

00:06:01what a real bulge

00:06:03to the coffers

00:06:04it can set you up

00:06:05Yeah, it certainly can

00:06:06and the first thing

00:06:06is when you get a tie

00:06:07like that

00:06:08you think of it

00:06:08people like Alec

00:06:10go another player

00:06:11and you hope

00:06:13that the club

00:06:13will run properly

00:06:14that you can delve into

00:06:15maybe get one or two in

00:06:16for the final run

00:06:18into the season

00:06:19so that's the kind

00:06:20of thing it is

00:06:21but I think

00:06:22Auchinleck would have

00:06:23been happier

00:06:23if it had been at Celtic

00:06:25because obviously

00:06:26there would be more revenue

00:06:26it used to be the case

00:06:28that

00:06:28You could switch it

00:06:29Yeah, but you had to

00:06:30switch it under

00:06:31you didn't have

00:06:33the proper facility

00:06:34the police would say

00:06:36oh no you can't have

00:06:378 or 9 thousand people

00:06:39coming in here

00:06:39it's safety

00:06:40but I think now

00:06:42a lot of clubs

00:06:42are now saying

00:06:43no, no we've got

00:06:44a home tie

00:06:44let's keep with

00:06:46our own supporters

00:06:47and let them enjoy

00:06:47the day out

00:06:48and the players obviously

00:06:49so it will be

00:06:50an eye opener

00:06:51for the Celtic boys

00:06:52You'll have to look at

00:06:53Darville against Aberdeen

00:06:54to remember what

00:06:55what it can do for you

00:06:55No, absolutely

00:06:56and again

00:06:58middle of January

00:06:59you think to yourself

00:07:00the weather could be

00:07:01poor and all that

00:07:02the pitch I wouldn't

00:07:02imagine would be

00:07:03great down there

00:07:03is it AstroTurf

00:07:05is it?

00:07:05No

00:07:05No, no, right

00:07:06okay so that covers

00:07:07that

00:07:07but I just think

00:07:09I think this is what

00:07:11cup football is all

00:07:12about

00:07:12you know you've got

00:07:13the Scottish champions

00:07:13against these guys

00:07:15and it would be a

00:07:16dream come true

00:07:17because a lot of

00:07:17these guys have

00:07:18never played at the

00:07:18level

00:07:18it's interesting

00:07:19we played Celtic

00:07:19obviously in the

00:07:20League Cup this year

00:07:21and even at our

00:07:22level some of the

00:07:23boys are absolutely

00:07:24made up because

00:07:24they're obviously

00:07:25playing against some

00:07:25of the guys that

00:07:26they support and so

00:07:28forth but

00:07:28when it kicks off

00:07:31it's a real eye

00:07:32opener because you

00:07:32then realise you're

00:07:33up against top

00:07:34class players

00:07:35Any tasty ones

00:07:36that you remember

00:07:37that you thought

00:07:37of or you've been

00:07:38knocked out of one

00:07:39north or south of

00:07:40the border?

00:07:41The one was

00:07:42Tranmere

00:07:43they got a man

00:07:45sent off

00:07:45and as he was

00:07:46walking off

00:07:47they substituted

00:07:47him and brought

00:07:48the sub on

00:07:49so they remained

00:07:4911 for the last

00:07:5015 minutes

00:07:51It's a true story

00:07:53So they get

00:07:54the boys like

00:07:54so they get

00:07:55sub sub

00:07:56put the board up

00:07:57and it was the

00:07:57guy who was

00:07:58going on

00:07:59It was a brilliant

00:08:00move and he

00:08:00ended up beating

00:08:01his 1-0

00:08:01Tranmere

00:08:01and that was

00:08:02that good

00:08:02Sunland team

00:08:03they were in

00:08:04the championship

00:08:04at that time

00:08:05we were on

00:08:05the top flight

00:08:06I thought it's

00:08:06sneaky because we

00:08:07thought we were

00:08:07going to get out

00:08:08because of the

00:08:09rules and things

00:08:10I went nah

00:08:10unlucky mate

00:08:11They didn't get

00:08:12knocked out?

00:08:13No, it remained

00:08:13No, not even

00:08:14through

00:08:14That's unbelievable

00:08:16That wouldn't

00:08:17happen nowadays

00:08:17Anyway, let's

00:08:19look back at

00:08:20the weekend

00:08:21Of course, the

00:08:22main thing that

00:08:22came out of the

00:08:23match at Easter

00:08:24Road

00:08:24I was watching

00:08:24Hibs against

00:08:25Celtic and

00:08:26obviously Martin

00:08:27O'Neill came

00:08:27into the press

00:08:28conference afterwards

00:08:30to reveal to

00:08:30everybody he's

00:08:31staying on

00:08:32Yeah, it was a

00:08:34wee bit strange

00:08:34I must admit

00:08:35I had a joke

00:08:37up there with

00:08:38people about

00:08:39saying about

00:08:39whatever is

00:08:41happening to the

00:08:42paperwork I have

00:08:42no idea

00:08:43maybe I'm

00:08:43hiding it

00:08:44but so

00:08:46but yeah

00:08:48just and

00:08:49if it's

00:08:50you must be

00:08:52bored asking

00:08:54me about the

00:08:55question so it

00:08:56was a strange

00:08:56thing because I

00:08:57only found out

00:08:58yesterday I

00:08:59thought that

00:08:59genuinely thought

00:09:00this was my

00:09:00last game

00:09:01paperwork, work

00:09:05permits, getting

00:09:06it all, crossing

00:09:08the T's, dotting

00:09:09the I's, it's

00:09:10dragging on isn't

00:09:11it?

00:09:11Yeah, listen

00:09:12there's obviously

00:09:12a few formalities

00:09:13but I think the

00:09:14deal will get

00:09:14done, I expect

00:09:17that to be in the

00:09:17next couple of

00:09:18days but I have

00:09:18to say though the

00:09:19job that he's

00:09:19done since he

00:09:20came in, him and

00:09:21Sean Maloney has

00:09:21been absolutely

00:09:22tremendous because

00:09:23there's some tricky

00:09:24fixtures in there

00:09:25and obviously away in

00:09:26Europe last week as

00:09:27well to Feyenoord

00:09:28and then Hibbs is

00:09:29not an easy place

00:09:30to go also but

00:09:31he's navigated it

00:09:32excellently and if

00:09:33he can get the

00:09:34result on Wednesday

00:09:35night and pass the

00:09:35baton on then you

00:09:37look back and him

00:09:38his, if it could get

00:09:39any more higher, you

00:09:41know, his status at

00:09:42the club but the

00:09:43fans will be grateful

00:09:44for the job he's

00:09:45currently doing.

00:09:46Six wins out of

00:09:46seven Ruffy, five

00:09:47wins out of five in

00:09:49the league and

00:09:50whatever he's done,

00:09:52you know, man

00:09:52management, the lot

00:09:53which is certainly

00:09:54something that I

00:09:55asked Callum

00:09:55McGregor afterwards

00:09:56just those little

00:09:58touches and of

00:09:59course the stature

00:09:59of the man is

00:10:01there for all to

00:10:02see, especially in

00:10:02the dressing room.

00:10:03Yeah, I've said

00:10:04that all my career,

00:10:05you know, when you're

00:10:06sitting in a dressing

00:10:06room and somebody

00:10:08like that comes

00:10:08through the dressing

00:10:09room door,

00:10:10everybody perks up,

00:10:11you know, and you

00:10:12listen to every word

00:10:12he's saying, you

00:10:14know, and he seems

00:10:14to be good at the

00:10:15PR side of it,

00:10:16which when the

00:10:17teams, the players

00:10:18aren't playing

00:10:19particularly well,

00:10:19sometimes that kind

00:10:20of approach just

00:10:21lifts everybody, you

00:10:22know, but obviously

00:10:23the wins on the

00:10:24park matter to

00:10:26everybody, and it

00:10:27just remains to be

00:10:28seen, does that put

00:10:28a wee bit of

00:10:29pressure on the

00:10:29new boy with the

00:10:31run that he's had

00:10:31coming in?

00:10:33Yeah, Hearts, Roma

00:10:33and the Premier

00:10:35Sports Cup final,

00:10:36that's pressure.

00:10:37You know, the

00:10:38run that Martin's

00:10:39had, you know,

00:10:39with the victory

00:10:40he's had, you

00:10:41know, it'll come

00:10:42in, obviously I'm

00:10:42not going to judge

00:10:43him in the three

00:10:44games, but he would

00:10:45like to think he's

00:10:46going to get some

00:10:47wins in there.

00:10:47Well, there is

00:10:48Scottish football, and

00:10:49if we're to go

00:10:50along the way that

00:10:51Scottish football is

00:10:51going at the moment,

00:10:52Alec, if he loses

00:10:53to Hearts, then

00:10:54Roma, and the

00:10:55Premier Sports

00:10:55Cup final, LB, sack

00:10:57the manager, sack

00:10:58the board.

00:11:00I have to say

00:11:01though, on this, he's

00:11:03obviously coming into

00:11:03a group of players

00:11:04that are full of

00:11:05confidence, because

00:11:06Martin's obviously

00:11:06got them on the

00:11:07front foot, they're

00:11:08scoring goals, and

00:11:10no, listen, but the

00:11:11thing is, we know how

00:11:12it works, Peter, you

00:11:13know, I've won such a

00:11:14long time in football,

00:11:15but I would be really

00:11:17embracing that, if I

00:11:17was him coming into

00:11:18that kind of

00:11:19environment, you know,

00:11:19you can make a mark

00:11:21with the team that's

00:11:22been leading the

00:11:23championship so far,

00:11:25and then you're going

00:11:25into a European game

00:11:26which is, you could

00:11:28take them home, 10

00:11:29points could be

00:11:29enough, and then also

00:11:30then you've got a

00:11:31cup final against

00:11:32St Mirren, who are

00:11:32not flying at the

00:11:33moment, so he could

00:11:35come in, hit the

00:11:35ground running, and

00:11:36people are going

00:11:37pfft, but it'll be

00:11:38judged over a longer

00:11:39period, I imagine.

00:11:40Yeah, absolutely, and

00:11:41he'll obviously want

00:11:41to bring in his own

00:11:42players as well.

00:11:43Ruffy, no surprise, I

00:11:44mean, you know, I

00:11:45think the Celtic fans

00:11:46think he can walk on

00:11:47water, but, you know,

00:11:49over and above that,

00:11:51you know, you know

00:11:52what Martin's like,

00:11:53you know, I was at

00:11:54the John Hartson

00:11:55sporting lunch on

00:11:56Friday, wasn't here

00:11:58with you, and, you

00:12:00know, myself and

00:12:01Paul Merson had a

00:12:02great day, Merson

00:12:03had some fantastic

00:12:04stories, and Paul

00:12:07and myself worked

00:12:07really, really hard to

00:12:08entertain the

00:12:09audience, and then

00:12:10Martin came in with

00:12:10two minutes to go and

00:12:11get a standing

00:12:12ovation.

00:12:13I mean, that's what

00:12:14it's all about,

00:12:15isn't it?

00:12:15He has that timing,

00:12:17yeah, he has that,

00:12:18he's just got that

00:12:20about him, isn't it,

00:12:21when you see him,

00:12:22you know, you think

00:12:23you're waiting on him

00:12:24actually saying

00:12:24something, because

00:12:26you know he's going

00:12:26to say something

00:12:27that's going to

00:12:27twig everybody and

00:12:28get you excited,

00:12:29and I mean, you'll

00:12:31know from asking

00:12:31from interviewing,

00:12:32you know.

00:12:33You know what it's

00:12:33like, it's like Tom

00:12:34and Jerry when we're

00:12:34up on the stage,

00:12:36because they agreed

00:12:36to come up, you

00:12:37know, and I thought

00:12:37right away, here we

00:12:38go, ding dong, you

00:12:39know, it was like

00:12:40just a frying pan,

00:12:41and then I hooked

00:12:41him one, you know,

00:12:42and everybody's, and

00:12:43you can hear the

00:12:44audience going,

00:12:45and I'm thinking,

00:12:46he's getting

00:12:47leathered as well,

00:12:48you know, and by

00:12:48the way he gives it

00:12:49as good as he gets

00:12:50off, for God's sake.

00:12:51I wouldn't expect

00:12:52anything else.

00:12:52No, absolutely, and

00:12:53by the way, Mercer's

00:12:54got some great stories,

00:12:55and you can relate to

00:12:56them, because obviously

00:12:57you do a lot of work

00:12:57with your Second

00:12:58Chance project.

00:13:00Paul's seven years

00:13:01clean, you know, he

00:13:02was very open about

00:13:03his addiction with

00:13:04alcohol, drugs, of

00:13:07course gambling, and

00:13:10you know, I just

00:13:12thought his stories

00:13:13were laced with, you

00:13:15know, a serious

00:13:16topic, but with

00:13:17humour as well.

00:13:18Yeah, well the

00:13:18thing is, you have to

00:13:19look back and laugh

00:13:20at it, because if you

00:13:21don't, you would cry,

00:13:21because the amount of

00:13:22money they had lost

00:13:23over the years, I

00:13:26have to say, Paul

00:13:26Mercer was pivotal to

00:13:28myself, having Tony

00:13:29Adams coming out and

00:13:30going, you know, need

00:13:31help, that was, that's

00:13:33the reason why I got

00:13:33back, I got on the

00:13:35wagon as well, so, you

00:13:36know, they guys were

00:13:37kind of pioneers at

00:13:37their time, even though

00:13:38they didn't know that,

00:13:39but I've been in

00:13:40Mercer's company, but in

00:13:41terms of a football

00:13:42player, Paul Mercer was

00:13:43absolutely top draw.

00:13:44Oh, I mean, so

00:13:45talented, because I

00:13:47don't often go, well

00:13:49what a player he was,

00:13:49because he could

00:13:50compete, what a

00:13:52talented boy he was,

00:13:53and that's in spite of

00:13:55all his off the field

00:13:55stuff.

00:13:56Yeah, it was actually a

00:13:57joy to chat with, as

00:13:59was John Hartsman, who

00:13:59does a brilliant job,

00:14:01Ruffy, to raise well,

00:14:03well in excess of a

00:14:04million pounds now for

00:14:06so many charities, handed

00:14:07over a cheque to the

00:14:08Beetson and the

00:14:09Glasgow Children's

00:14:10Hospice as well, which

00:14:11is brilliant.

00:14:11Yeah, it's great, I

00:14:12mean, obviously the

00:14:12golf days and the

00:14:13dinners and everything

00:14:14and the options, obviously

00:14:15you're a large part of

00:14:16that, raising the money

00:14:18that they get eventually,

00:14:19but it is an enormous

00:14:20amount of money they

00:14:21hand over.

00:14:22You do squeeze quite a

00:14:23lot of people, I've got

00:14:24to say.

00:14:26Yeah, yeah, like a

00:14:26noise up.

00:14:27Do you know why, I mean,

00:14:29I didn't do the auction

00:14:30at this one, I usually do

00:14:31the auction, which is kind

00:14:32of, I would say, my

00:14:33forte, and the reason why

00:14:34I do the auction, Alec, is

00:14:36because I had, and you're

00:14:39going to, you over

00:14:40appreciate this, because

00:14:41myself and my mates used

00:14:43to go to tables and we

00:14:44were skint when we were

00:14:45young.

00:14:46You know, we'd go to

00:14:47these dinners and then

00:14:47the multi-millionaires who

00:14:49live in Scotland, you

00:14:49know who they are, they

00:14:51would bid for all the

00:14:52auction items and we had

00:14:52to sit there and grin and

00:14:54bear it because we had

00:14:55two hapenies to rub

00:14:56together, we were just

00:14:57trying to get enough

00:14:58money so we could go to

00:14:59the Cotton Club or the

00:15:00Toledo Junction on a

00:15:02Monday night.

00:15:03So we're sitting there

00:15:04thinking, oh, for God's

00:15:05sake, you know, they're

00:15:06bidding 10s, 20,000s

00:15:07or whatever, so when

00:15:08eventually they asked me

00:15:10to do the auctions, I

00:15:11thought, well, I've got

00:15:13to turn this and this

00:15:13thing, so I just decided

00:15:14to absolutely scattergun

00:15:16everybody who was

00:15:18bidding and then it just

00:15:19turned into something a

00:15:20wee bit different,

00:15:21Raffy.

00:15:21Yeah, we had a great

00:15:22night, we were at a

00:15:23lunch, no, a lunch we

00:15:24were at and Peter was

00:15:25doing the auction and I

00:15:27had a table and Cam

00:15:29McManus was at it, right,

00:15:30and it came to the

00:15:31raffle, of course, when

00:15:32people buy raffle

00:15:33tickets, you spread all

00:15:35the raffle tickets at the

00:15:36table, so you know, so

00:15:38the bull Peter comes up

00:15:39and obviously, I've

00:15:40walked past it, he's

00:15:41walked back, and he's

00:15:43clocked Tam's raffle

00:15:44ticket, I can't even

00:15:46remember what the prize

00:15:47was, anyway, he goes,

00:15:49yellow, six, four, the

00:15:51bull, Tam, oh, you

00:15:53had a dancer, he let

00:15:54him walk all the way

00:15:55up, all the way up.

00:15:58Oh, well, it's yellow, six,

00:16:00four, you were close, it's

00:16:01yellow, two, five, two.

00:16:03I'm turned around all the

00:16:04way back, lost the prize

00:16:06a lot, raging, hated me

00:16:08for it.

00:16:09But, yeah, great, well

00:16:10done to John Hartson and

00:16:11everybody there, and of

00:16:12course, as you know,

00:16:14Raffy, with these things,

00:16:15you get filmed, people

00:16:16film it, you know, and

00:16:17then they obviously edit

00:16:18it down, you know, and I

00:16:21think out there at the

00:16:21moment is me and Martin,

00:16:23you know, having a go at

00:16:24each other, but it's still

00:16:25good for you.

00:16:25Oh, look out for that.

00:16:27Yeah, absolutely.

00:16:29It's good to support

00:16:29John's charity.

00:16:31Yeah, absolutely.

00:16:33Listen, he's staying on,

00:16:35so suddenly they're

00:16:36against Hibbs, and I

00:16:38don't know about you,

00:16:39Raffy, but see your

00:16:40goalkeeping fraternity,

00:16:41honestly, they're doing

00:16:42my head in, because he

00:16:44sold the jerseys.

00:16:46Yeah, I think he did,

00:16:47but he's been having a

00:16:48good season.

00:16:49He's one of the better

00:16:50ones.

00:16:50Yeah, he has, but I

00:16:51mean...

00:16:52Talk about yesterday,

00:16:52Raffy.

00:16:53The boy, no, but the

00:16:54boy...

00:16:54I mean, he's not

00:16:56aboutery, isn't he?

00:16:57No, but the boy...

00:16:58Don't you, but what

00:16:59about this?

00:16:59No, what about that?

00:17:00You cannae take any

00:17:01account the boy's

00:17:02slipping.

00:17:03Eh?

00:17:04The boy slipped.

00:17:05He's got Hitati up

00:17:06his back.

00:17:07Just launch it, man.

00:17:08By the way...

00:17:10Would you have done it

00:17:10in your day?

00:17:10Eh?

00:17:11Would you have

00:17:11given somebody that

00:17:12ball there?

00:17:12No, none in my

00:17:13centre-house would have

00:17:14took that ball in my day.

00:17:15You kid, no.

00:17:16Oh, no, don't get

00:17:17to me, I don't want it.

00:17:17By the way, what about

00:17:18the boy Ward at

00:17:18Motherwell when they had

00:17:19Celtic on toast?

00:17:20Oh, yeah, he's got a

00:17:21launch start.

00:17:22Launch it.

00:17:23There's no difference

00:17:23between that and that

00:17:24one.

00:17:24By the way, when would

00:17:25you play a ball from

00:17:27your own heart, from

00:17:28your own box to the

00:17:30edge of the D with

00:17:32people closing you

00:17:33down?

00:17:33No chance.

00:17:34It's mental.

00:17:35I know, but I mean,

00:17:36I think it wouldn't

00:17:38have happened if the

00:17:38boy had slipped.

00:17:40If the boy hadn't

00:17:40slept, he'd have just

00:17:41passed it back to

00:17:42him, and then he

00:17:43could have housed it

00:17:43up the park.

00:17:44I thought it was

00:17:44outside the line.

00:17:45I thought it was not

00:17:46the right time to do

00:17:47it.

00:17:47Anyway, it was a bad

00:17:48mistake.

00:17:48It's costly, and the

00:17:50thing is, that's when

00:17:51you're kind of rocked

00:17:52at that point, and

00:17:52then within a minute

00:17:53or so, and then the

00:17:54second one goes in.

00:17:54He scored another

00:17:55one.

00:17:55They've switched off

00:17:56completely.

00:17:57Up until that

00:17:58point, I don't know

00:17:58how they were doing

00:17:58well, Hibbs.

00:17:59I thought they were

00:18:00a good opening.

00:18:01And by the way, as

00:18:02you well know, Alec,

00:18:03when you're playing

00:18:04against Celtic or

00:18:05Rangers, when you get

00:18:06a big chance, Martin

00:18:08Boyle, I thought it

00:18:09was a sitter.

00:18:10No, see, the thing

00:18:11is, I genuinely think

00:18:12he's actually waiting

00:18:12for the contact, as

00:18:13opposed to going for

00:18:14the ball.

00:18:14Looking for the

00:18:15penalty?

00:18:16Yeah.

00:18:16It's a good point,

00:18:17actually.

00:18:17I don't mean this

00:18:21really over the

00:18:21years, and he's

00:18:22won his team plenty

00:18:23of things, but for

00:18:25me, I think he's

00:18:26got to get good

00:18:27contact.

00:18:28Yeah.

00:18:28Now, there's two

00:18:29incidents in the

00:18:30game that I think

00:18:30are worthy of our

00:18:31thoughts, Ruffey.

00:18:33Engels is a good

00:18:34goal, it's a brave

00:18:35goal, but he took

00:18:35a bit to the face.

00:18:36Should there have

00:18:37been more, should

00:18:38there have been

00:18:38repercussions after

00:18:39it, even though he

00:18:40scored the goal?

00:18:41Well, I think they

00:18:42probably got a yellow

00:18:43card, you know, I

00:18:44think after it, you

00:18:45know, if it hadn't

00:18:46went in the net, then

00:18:48you'd probably look at

00:18:49VAR.

00:18:50And then coming

00:18:51up with some kind

00:18:53of decision.

00:18:55Obviously, we're not

00:18:56privy to what that

00:18:57would have been, but

00:18:57he was brave enough

00:18:59to get in there and

00:19:00put his head in there

00:19:01and you take the

00:19:01goal and you move

00:19:02on.

00:19:02It was actually a

00:19:03very good run by

00:19:04him because he

00:19:04came a good way to

00:19:06go on the end of

00:19:07that.

00:19:07And the only thing I

00:19:09would say, because

00:19:10you're clamouring

00:19:12sometimes for a kick

00:19:13to the head.

00:19:14And I think he's

00:19:16probably leant down a

00:19:17little bit to get

00:19:18it, as opposed to,

00:19:19you know, the one

00:19:20you're coming up

00:19:20and you're catching

00:19:21him when he's

00:19:21upright.

00:19:22So I need defence, I

00:19:23think, you know, the

00:19:24guy that's making the

00:19:25tackle.

00:19:25I think that may

00:19:26well have been, he's

00:19:27only saving grace in

00:19:28that, but if it had

00:19:28to have been a red, I

00:19:30don't think anybody

00:19:30could have complained.

00:19:31Before they got to

00:19:32the penalty, which

00:19:33we'll discuss, in

00:19:34fact, it's another

00:19:34point, I thought

00:19:36Colby Donovan was

00:19:37lucky with his tackle

00:19:39on Abita.

00:19:40I thought he was

00:19:40going.

00:19:41Well, see, the

00:19:41thing is, this is a

00:19:42bit for me, is, see

00:19:44if you talk about

00:19:44excessive, couldn't

00:19:46have hit him any

00:19:46harder.

00:19:47Yeah.

00:19:47You know, he's

00:19:47came like a train

00:19:48and absolutely

00:19:49smashed the boy

00:19:50and I had a

00:19:51discussion with a

00:19:51good pal of ours

00:19:52today about it and

00:19:53he says, no, no, I

00:19:54thought it was

00:19:54sufficient, but I

00:19:56think you were

00:19:56running the risk

00:19:57with the actual

00:19:57pace that he

00:19:58catches because

00:19:59he's clearly

00:19:59endangering on

00:20:01there.

00:20:01I was waiting for

00:20:02the referee to

00:20:03be called to the

00:20:04VAR for it.

00:20:05I thought they

00:20:06would say, you

00:20:06need to have a

00:20:07look at this.

00:20:07But he got a

00:20:08yellow.

00:20:09Yeah, no, and

00:20:09do you know the

00:20:10interesting thing

00:20:10about this?

00:20:10Because I watched

00:20:11a game in England

00:20:12afterwards, yesterday,

00:20:13and it was a

00:20:15coming together by

00:20:16the Arsenal striker

00:20:17and the goalkeeper

00:20:17that was coming

00:20:18together and I

00:20:19think it was

00:20:19Anthony Taylor who

00:20:20did throw a lot of

00:20:21cards about it and

00:20:21he actually bought

00:20:22his cell a bit of

00:20:23time, he thought

00:20:23about it, he

00:20:24assessed it, you

00:20:24can hear him

00:20:25speaking to the

00:20:25nearest official at

00:20:28the side there.

00:20:30So I thought Nick

00:20:31Walsh made his

00:20:32decision very, very

00:20:34quickly.

00:20:34I don't even think

00:20:35he bought his

00:20:35cell time to see

00:20:36because there was

00:20:37obviously people at

00:20:38the sidelines or

00:20:38it could have been

00:20:40a linesman, could

00:20:42he have bought his

00:20:42cell a bit more

00:20:43time just to try

00:20:43and assess it

00:20:44because see as

00:20:45soon as you give

00:20:45the on-field

00:20:46decision, oh

00:20:46yellow card, it's

00:20:47very difficult to

00:20:48overturn it really.

00:20:49Yeah, the other

00:20:49aspect of it which

00:20:50another talking

00:20:51point Ruffy, I

00:20:53mean I was there

00:20:53and I looked at

00:20:54it and then I

00:20:55had a look at

00:20:55the replay on

00:20:56it and I

00:20:56thought, you

00:20:57know, it's

00:20:58your bugbear

00:20:58the handball

00:20:59thing and I

00:21:00thought it was

00:21:01harsh on skills.

00:21:02Yeah, I

00:21:02thought he was

00:21:03unfortunate, you

00:21:04know there was

00:21:04two or three

00:21:05players in front

00:21:06of him went for

00:21:07it, you know

00:21:07and he's just

00:21:08put his head

00:21:09down not thinking

00:21:10it's going to

00:21:10come to him,

00:21:11somebody's going

00:21:11to get it and

00:21:12he just comes

00:21:12over somebody

00:21:13and just hits

00:21:14him in the

00:21:14hand, it's

00:21:15not deliberate,

00:21:16it's not, I

00:21:17mean his hand

00:21:17is out there, it

00:21:18does hit his

00:21:19hand, there's no

00:21:19doubt about that.

00:21:20I thought it

00:21:20was high on

00:21:21his shoulder.

00:21:21No, I thought

00:21:22it hit his

00:21:22hand and then

00:21:23it hit his

00:21:23shoulder.

00:21:24I would say

00:21:24about here.

00:21:24Scales?

00:21:25Uh-huh.

00:21:25It was roughly

00:21:26about that.

00:21:27Yeah.

00:21:27But see the

00:21:28thing is though,

00:21:29if you watch

00:21:29that, I think

00:21:30the Rangers

00:21:31don't get one

00:21:31of them last

00:21:31Thursday, you

00:21:32know the boy

00:21:33goes up to

00:21:33win the

00:21:33header, it's

00:21:34coming over

00:21:34bodies and

00:21:35then it

00:21:41is about

00:21:42the intensity,

00:21:42how do you

00:21:43know if it's

00:21:43deliberate?

00:21:44So see me and

00:21:44you go up and

00:21:45your arms are

00:21:45out there and

00:21:46you go, well

00:21:46it's not

00:21:46deliberate, I'm

00:21:47getting leverage.

00:21:48So the whole

00:21:49handball thing,

00:21:50so.

00:21:50How do you

00:21:51solve it?

00:21:51I don't know,

00:21:52I've no idea.

00:21:53Well what I

00:21:54do know is you

00:21:54don't jump like

00:21:55that, you don't

00:21:56jump with your

00:21:56hands at your

00:21:57side and jump

00:21:57up the way

00:21:58Peter, so you

00:21:59jump with your

00:21:59arms up for

00:22:00leverage.

00:22:00But is there

00:22:01not a greater

00:22:01potential to get

00:22:02a higher percentage

00:22:03right if you

00:22:05say, if you

00:22:07say for example

00:22:07the ball's coming

00:22:08over, does he

00:22:09know anything

00:22:10about it?

00:22:10Is he

00:22:10intentionally

00:22:11going?

00:22:12Yeah but then

00:22:12that goes back

00:22:13to, do you

00:22:14know what I mean?

00:22:15What do you

00:22:16call it?

00:22:17Interpretation by

00:22:17the official.

00:22:18It'll change

00:22:18from week to

00:22:19week, going

00:22:19oh you meant

00:22:20that, I didn't

00:22:20mean that.

00:22:21So again it's

00:22:22subjective back

00:22:23down to the

00:22:23official.

00:22:24But I think

00:22:24it's a really

00:22:25difficult one and

00:22:26the one of the

00:22:27bugbears with me

00:22:27Peter is when it

00:22:28hits a part of

00:22:28the body or

00:22:29another player and

00:22:30then hits you

00:22:31in the arm.

00:22:31I think if it

00:22:32hits something

00:22:33before the arm

00:22:34it should never

00:22:35be a penalty.

00:22:36I like this one

00:22:36from Dublin who

00:22:37says the handball

00:22:38rule is a head

00:22:39melt.

00:22:39You're absolutely

00:22:40right.

00:22:41It does us in

00:22:41every week.

00:22:42And by the way

00:22:43everybody, every

00:22:44pundit, every

00:22:45journalist, everybody

00:22:46has got their

00:22:46thoughts on it.

00:22:47It doesn't mean

00:22:47to say that we

00:22:49are the light, the

00:22:51way and the

00:22:51truth on this.

00:22:52It's all subjective

00:22:53and again everybody

00:22:54has got their

00:22:54thoughts on it and

00:22:55thank you to so

00:22:56many of you that

00:22:58actually are

00:22:59offering your own

00:23:01tuppence worth on

00:23:01it because that's

00:23:02the joy of

00:23:02football.

00:23:03It can be

00:23:04frustrating for some

00:23:05managers, not only

00:23:06frustrating but it

00:23:07costs them points.

00:23:08in certain games

00:23:09but the one

00:23:10aspect of all

00:23:12these decisions

00:23:13when Hibs go

00:23:142-0 down, David

00:23:16Gray, the Hibs

00:23:17boss, knows

00:23:18there's just a

00:23:18mountain to

00:23:19climb.

00:23:19I think you're

00:23:21always angry when

00:23:21you lose goals but

00:23:22I think for the

00:23:23way we want to

00:23:24play and what we're

00:23:26good at doing, I

00:23:27don't think it was a

00:23:27terrible decision or

00:23:28loses his foot and

00:23:30it's a slip and we

00:23:31obviously gift Celtic a

00:23:33goal because that's

00:23:33what it was, it was a

00:23:34gift but it's not

00:23:34through them doing

00:23:36something that they're

00:23:37not being asked to

00:23:37do.

00:23:38I take responsibility

00:23:38for that as well

00:23:39because of how we

00:23:40play.

00:23:42Frustration probably

00:23:42comes with that.

00:23:43then you give Celtic

00:23:44a two-goal start

00:23:44which was in a real

00:23:46quick succession

00:23:47after a real

00:23:49positive start in my

00:23:50opinion.

00:23:50I thought we started

00:23:50the game really well

00:23:51for what I asked the

00:23:52players to do pre-match

00:23:54about being aggressive,

00:23:55being on the front

00:23:56foot.

00:23:56I certainly seen that,

00:23:57created the best

00:23:57chance of the game.

00:24:00The lesson there, you

00:24:00probably need to take

00:24:01the chances.

00:24:02They don't come as

00:24:02often, especially

00:24:03against teams like

00:24:04Celtic that you need

00:24:05to make sure you

00:24:05take them.

00:24:05Yeah, absolutely

00:24:08caught out there.

00:24:09The key issue here

00:24:11now, Ruffy, is from

00:24:12being nine points

00:24:13behind with Martin

00:24:14and Neil in charge,

00:24:15they're now two points

00:24:16off the top of the

00:24:17table, Celtic.

00:24:18They've closed down

00:24:18Hearts and they've

00:24:19got a game in hand

00:24:20and lo and behold

00:24:21after Dundee, they've

00:24:22got Hearts coming as

00:24:23well.

00:24:24Yeah, and you can tell

00:24:25him in his interviews

00:24:26he's enjoying every

00:24:27minute of obviously

00:24:28winning.

00:24:28He's been in the game

00:24:30long enough to know

00:24:31what it means to the

00:24:31supporters.

00:24:32I know the new

00:24:34manager's coming in

00:24:35but I think he'd

00:24:36have fancied the

00:24:37cup final.

00:24:38Martin in the

00:24:39O.I.

00:24:39I think Martin

00:24:41would have loved

00:24:42to have been there.

00:24:42He'd love to have

00:24:43just one more cup

00:24:45final, one more

00:24:45cup and then

00:24:46that's it.

00:24:47But it's not

00:24:48going to happen

00:24:48unless they make

00:24:49an appointment

00:24:50that they say

00:24:51right, you've done

00:24:51so particularly

00:24:52well, cup final

00:24:53day, I want you

00:24:54to go out with

00:24:55the team.

00:24:55I don't think

00:24:56no day that much.

00:24:56Martin's already

00:24:57said that.

00:24:58He said when a

00:24:59new manager comes

00:24:59in, if I was the

00:25:00manager, I wouldn't

00:25:01want anybody hanging

00:25:02about.

00:25:02And I don't even

00:25:03think you can hang

00:25:03about for any

00:25:04kind of role,

00:25:06Alec, because then

00:25:07you're hanging about

00:25:08and if it doesn't

00:25:09go according to

00:25:10plan, you're just

00:25:11hovering in the

00:25:12background, aren't

00:25:13you?

00:25:13You're an old

00:25:14cynic.

00:25:15Oh yeah, but you

00:25:15can't even.

00:25:16And by the way,

00:25:17I'm looking at him

00:25:18and the first time

00:25:20around when he was

00:25:21the manager in the

00:25:22early 2000s, my

00:25:23God almighty, I

00:25:23fought like cat and

00:25:25dog with him.

00:25:25I mean, he

00:25:25absolutely hated me.

00:25:27Time is a great

00:25:28healer.

00:25:28Of course, yeah.

00:25:28But the point is, I

00:25:32think he's done a

00:25:33brilliant job, I

00:25:34think he deserves

00:25:34tremendous credit, but

00:25:36you cannot hang

00:25:37about in the

00:25:37background.

00:25:38I just don't see a

00:25:39role for him.

00:25:40I think he'll go

00:25:40on, he's maybe

00:25:41hinted that if

00:25:44somebody came

00:25:45calling and says

00:25:45could you do a

00:25:46similar job for

00:25:47us or could you

00:25:47take a contract

00:25:48and you might

00:25:48bite, he didn't

00:25:49rule that out in

00:25:50the press conference

00:25:51yesterday, but the

00:25:51one thing I would

00:25:52say is, and I'm

00:25:55not trying to just

00:25:56throw this up to be

00:25:58scurrilous in the

00:25:58whole situation, but

00:25:59the Eddie Howe

00:26:00thing looked as if

00:26:01it was done and

00:26:01dusted and it died

00:26:02in its back end.

00:26:04Some Celtic fans

00:26:05would like to see

00:26:06Martin be the

00:26:07manager.

00:26:07I think because of

00:26:09the job that he's

00:26:09actually done over

00:26:11the last few weeks

00:26:12would warrant that

00:26:13Peter, because they

00:26:14see progress, they

00:26:15see a team winning,

00:26:16there seems to be a

00:26:17kind of united front

00:26:19on the pitch.

00:26:20You know, it

00:26:21hasn't been

00:26:22sparkling at times

00:26:23as well, but

00:26:23they've managed to

00:26:23get wins.

00:26:25But listen, you're

00:26:27absolutely right, I

00:26:27don't expect him

00:26:28to be about too

00:26:28much.

00:26:29Do you know what

00:26:29I'd really like to

00:26:29see as well, if it's

00:26:31possible, that Martin

00:26:32attends the final and

00:26:33he gets that

00:26:34recognition for the

00:26:35punters and things

00:26:35because he's part in

00:26:37recent weeks.

00:26:38I think that would be

00:26:39a potential, but it's

00:26:41amazing, isn't it,

00:26:41because you think to

00:26:42yourself, I'm out the

00:26:43game, I've had enough.

00:26:45I've done these media

00:26:45stuff, he's a great

00:26:46after-dinner speaker,

00:26:47TV work, and then all

00:26:49of a sudden you get

00:26:50asked to come back in

00:26:51and then the juices

00:26:51start flowing and you

00:26:52think, I might have a

00:26:53wee look at that

00:26:54somewhere else.

00:26:54Yeah, absolutely.

00:26:55And by the way, he

00:26:56doesn't jump up and

00:26:57down as much, but he

00:26:59had a few blasts and I

00:27:01could see him giving

00:27:02the hairdryer treatment

00:27:03to a few people, you

00:27:04know.

00:27:05So he's still got that

00:27:06fire in his belly.

00:27:07But, only time will tell,

00:27:10Wilfred Nonsi should be

00:27:12in, paperwork all

00:27:13completed, after Martin

00:27:14gets, I think, a fitting

00:27:16swan song in front of the

00:27:17Celtic fans against a

00:27:19Dundee.

00:27:19So we're going to talk

00:27:20about Dundee because,

00:27:21you know, we're always

00:27:22on about managers, just

00:27:23give them time, give them

00:27:24a chance to bed in and get

00:27:26their own players and we'll

00:27:28talk about Dundee's

00:27:28performance against St Mirren

00:27:30who are on the flip side

00:27:31of that.

00:27:32Rangers nil, Falkirk nil and,

00:27:34and, again, I have to say,

00:27:37Ruffy, Falkirk are no

00:27:38mugs.

00:27:39I reckon even with 14

00:27:40games played and the

00:27:41points they've got, which

00:27:42is 20, suddenly, I said

00:27:45to you last week that 37

00:27:46will maybe get you into a

00:27:48playoff place.

00:27:50But anything above that,

00:27:5238, 40 points, and with

00:27:54the remaining games, I don't

00:27:55see Falkirk being dragged

00:27:56down that far.

00:27:57No, well, I'm present for

00:27:59him.

00:27:59You know, you would agree

00:28:00with you there, you know,

00:28:01but you're looking at this

00:28:02league and there's so

00:28:04many teams on a, you know,

00:28:06a one and seven and a

00:28:07no one and an eight and

00:28:08you're sitting there

00:28:08saying, could this happen

00:28:09to Falkirk?

00:28:10At this moment, I can't

00:28:11see it happening, but

00:28:12there's always a chance

00:28:13it could because other

00:28:14teams will obviously pick

00:28:15themselves up.

00:28:16But on the evidence of

00:28:17the weekend, they dug in,

00:28:19you know, I thought they

00:28:20were fought.

00:28:20I thought Rangers played

00:28:21okay.

00:28:23They weren't bad.

00:28:23They created chances.

00:28:25There was chances.

00:28:26I think Rangers are just

00:28:27looking for a spark, a

00:28:28goal, somebody to do

00:28:29something a wee bit

00:28:30special and at this

00:28:32moment in time, there's

00:28:32nobody coming up with

00:28:33that goal and then you

00:28:34can feel the tension and

00:28:36the crowd and it's going

00:28:38on in the park and some

00:28:39of the players.

00:28:40I just think some of the

00:28:40players have come to

00:28:41Rangers not expecting

00:28:44what you're supposed to

00:28:45do on a Saturday.

00:28:46I just think some of the

00:28:47players have come to

00:28:48Rangers not good enough

00:28:49to wear the jersey.

00:28:51Can you get off that

00:28:51fence?

00:28:54No, no, you're right.

00:28:55I'm looking at the

00:28:56recruitment in the summer.

00:28:58I think, let's just start

00:28:59with Falkirk.

00:29:00I think Falkirk will be

00:29:01well and truly safe.

00:29:02I looked at them

00:29:03yesterday.

00:29:03They popped the ball

00:29:04about well.

00:29:04They defend in numbers

00:29:06and I've got attacking

00:29:07options at the top end

00:29:08of the pitch and I think

00:29:11they'll be fine.

00:29:12I think he's done an

00:29:12incredible job and they've

00:29:13got a real good team

00:29:14spirit there.

00:29:15So I think Falkirk will

00:29:16be okay.

00:29:16As for Rangers, I didn't

00:29:18think they played

00:29:19particularly well at all

00:29:20yesterday.

00:29:20I thought it was very

00:29:21laboured, very slow.

00:29:23The top end of the

00:29:24pitch, they're lacking

00:29:25creativity and they're

00:29:27only getting a couple

00:29:28of shots off on target.

00:29:31Three shots on target.

00:29:31That's what I'm saying.

00:29:33I think you have to

00:29:34go back to 1930 odds

00:29:36that they've not scored

00:29:37against Falkirk at

00:29:38Ibrox.

00:29:39It's a long, old time.

00:29:40So I just, I'm, and

00:29:44also you've got the

00:29:45manager at the moment.

00:29:46You're looking at this

00:29:47guy, he's assessing

00:29:48everything.

00:29:49So see this, and now

00:29:50this is almost like an

00:29:50addition because he'll

00:29:52be going, he's not

00:29:53good enough.

00:29:53He's not good enough.

00:29:54How do we ship him

00:29:55out?

00:29:55And this will all be

00:29:56taking place now and

00:29:57they'll be assessing the

00:29:58players that they hope

00:29:59to get in in January.

00:30:00But the biggest and the

00:30:01hardest part that Rangers

00:30:02have at the moment is

00:30:03getting rid of these

00:30:04players that are not

00:30:06doing it for them.

00:30:07I actually thought

00:30:07Buzrami was a wee bit

00:30:08of a bright spark

00:30:09yesterday because he

00:30:09hasn't really played

00:30:10at all.

00:30:10He created a couple of

00:30:11wee opportunities.

00:30:13But in the main, at the

00:30:14top end of the pitch,

00:30:15the strikers are not

00:30:16firing.

00:30:17The wingers, you know,

00:30:18Gassama came in and

00:30:19started the season

00:30:19brilliantly.

00:30:21Asgard has been a real

00:30:21disappointment.

00:30:22So when you look at

00:30:24all these summer

00:30:25signings, you know,

00:30:28Ant-Man as well will

00:30:29come into that bracket

00:30:30has been non-existent.

00:30:31So I really think

00:30:32they're struggling at the

00:30:33top end of the pitch

00:30:34and I think the

00:30:34midfielders have to be

00:30:35so much more creative

00:30:36as well in terms of

00:30:37opening forward passes

00:30:39and playing at a

00:30:40tempo just to try and

00:30:41overwhelm teams like

00:30:42Falkert.

00:30:43So you get wave after

00:30:43wave after wave.

00:30:44And then you might end

00:30:46up kind of breaking

00:30:47them down when

00:30:48somebody kind of

00:30:48switches off.

00:30:49But they don't play

00:30:50the ball forward

00:30:50quick enough and

00:30:52with a tempo.

00:30:53Listen, the stats

00:30:54don't lie, Ruffey.

00:30:55Alex talking about

00:30:57Falkirk and the

00:30:58disappointment from

00:30:59Rangers and the

00:30:59performance there.

00:31:00And we talked about

00:31:01their shots on target

00:31:02but they're the

00:31:03seventh best in the

00:31:04league at creating

00:31:04chances.

00:31:05That's against every

00:31:06other team.

00:31:08And I think in the

00:31:09general consensus

00:31:10early on in the

00:31:11season under Russell

00:31:12Martin was the season

00:31:13was a write-off and

00:31:14then suddenly you

00:31:15get a wee sniff of

00:31:16well they're not

00:31:17that far back but

00:31:18you know, seven

00:31:19behind Celtic, nine

00:31:20behind Hearts and

00:31:22they don't look

00:31:23capable of going on

00:31:24a run.

00:31:25No, if they were

00:31:25capable they would

00:31:26have won that game

00:31:27of the weekend.

00:31:28They're the games

00:31:28you've got to win

00:31:29at home.

00:31:30You know, get three

00:31:30points and everybody

00:31:32as you say perks up

00:31:34a wee bit with

00:31:35Hearts dropping

00:31:35points.

00:31:36But that particular

00:31:38result, you know,

00:31:39I think January

00:31:41comes and you've got

00:31:42to hang on.

00:31:43I've always said

00:31:43there's a Scottish

00:31:44Cup to be won.

00:31:45There's European

00:31:46positions to be won

00:31:47at the end of the

00:31:48season.

00:31:48That should be the

00:31:49targets now, you

00:31:50know, unless something

00:31:51dramatically happens

00:31:52in the league.

00:31:53But I think that's

00:31:53what's left for

00:31:54Rangers.

00:31:55Yeah, he's going to

00:31:56wield the axe.

00:31:56I mean, it's a

00:31:57stonewall certainty.

00:31:59But it's just, it's

00:32:01alright saying, I

00:32:02think your point

00:32:02there about he's

00:32:03got to try and

00:32:04ship people out.

00:32:05Whether they ship

00:32:06them out at a loss

00:32:07is another pain in

00:32:07the back end because

00:32:08he spent, I think,

00:32:09overall that we're

00:32:10talking about, 40

00:32:11million pounds.

00:32:12And then you've

00:32:13got a board and a

00:32:14new board at that

00:32:15who'll look and

00:32:15say, right, okay,

00:32:16we're going to try and

00:32:17get them out for you,

00:32:18but what do you need

00:32:20short term?

00:32:21And I look at their

00:32:22side and I'm thinking

00:32:22to myself, one thing

00:32:25I've emphasised for the

00:32:26last couple of years

00:32:28is defenders.

00:32:30Oh, no, I know.

00:32:31Listen, they've

00:32:33obviously went and

00:32:34got Jiga, who's

00:32:35really strong.

00:32:36Actually, when he

00:32:36first came in the

00:32:37first couple of

00:32:37games, I thought,

00:32:38oh, you look's

00:32:38decent, but he's

00:32:39actually regressed

00:32:40and you spoke about,

00:32:42I think it was

00:32:42Ruffey was talking

00:32:42about in terms of

00:32:43the weight of the

00:32:44jersey, along the

00:32:45lines.

00:32:47And by the way,

00:32:48when you play with

00:32:48Rangers and things

00:32:49are not going well,

00:32:50the actual, you know,

00:32:51the old, you need a

00:32:52tin helmet and you

00:32:53need that mentality

00:32:54to try and drag your

00:32:55way through that.

00:32:56I often speak to

00:32:57big Mark Cately

00:32:57and he says,

00:32:58obviously I started

00:32:59really poorly, but

00:32:59I was in a winning

00:33:00team and it allowed

00:33:01him time to kind of

00:33:02get in his rhythm

00:33:03and he ended up

00:33:04becoming a legend.

00:33:05But you're not

00:33:06coming into a winning

00:33:07team, you're coming

00:33:07into a team that

00:33:08are actually struggling

00:33:08at both ends of

00:33:09the pitch and

00:33:10they've been

00:33:11struggling.

00:33:12So unless, Peter,

00:33:14do you know the

00:33:14hardest thing in

00:33:15football is actually

00:33:16getting ready players?

00:33:17And we've seen

00:33:18this, we've seen

00:33:18players, even before

00:33:19I was in there with

00:33:20Philippe, there's

00:33:21players still sitting

00:33:22there on the payroll

00:33:22there that are not

00:33:23playing on a weekly

00:33:24basis, they're on

00:33:25eye-watering amounts

00:33:27of money per week

00:33:28and they're not

00:33:31really that keen

00:33:31of moving, you

00:33:32know, because the

00:33:33thing is they're not

00:33:34keen to take a wage

00:33:35drop, so wherever

00:33:36they go, they're not

00:33:37going to get the

00:33:37same salary, so they

00:33:38just sit until the

00:33:39contract expires and

00:33:41unfortunately that's

00:33:42part of the problem

00:33:43with the Rangers,

00:33:44they cannot get these

00:33:45guys out.

00:33:45I always remember,

00:33:46you know, and I

00:33:47think it was said on

00:33:48many an occasion by

00:33:49many a Celtic manager

00:33:50as well and many a

00:33:52chief executive, a

00:33:53director, a chairman,

00:33:54and David Murray

00:33:55used to say it, you

00:33:56know, a lot of

00:33:57players find out that

00:33:57after Celtic and

00:33:58Rangers, it's that

00:34:01way, it's a lesser

00:34:03club, it's a club that

00:34:04doesn't have the same

00:34:05expectation.

00:34:06There's very few that

00:34:08you think about that

00:34:09leave Rangers and go

00:34:10on to bigger things.

00:34:12I think in the...

00:34:13Unless you're an

00:34:13up-and-coming.

00:34:14Oh no, it's the early

00:34:1590s when you had guys

00:34:16like Arteta, you know,

00:34:17that type of guy that

00:34:18were coming in, they

00:34:19were 21, Gattuso, these

00:34:21type of guys, and then

00:34:22they were... so they

00:34:23were buying them as a

00:34:23development to then

00:34:24sell them on, Peter, but

00:34:26you're absolutely right.

00:34:27And listen, I've seen

00:34:29plenty of players think,

00:34:31oh, I'm at Rangers and

00:34:32the grass is always

00:34:33greener, but, you know,

00:34:34there's plenty of people

00:34:35left and it's... they end

00:34:36up tumbling down the

00:34:38pecking order.

00:34:39Yeah, and of course a

00:34:40lot of people have their

00:34:41say on it.

00:34:42Somebody said, Rangers

00:34:44are already posting

00:34:45losses of 14 million,

00:34:47there'll be no splashing

00:34:48the cash.

00:34:48I certainly don't see it

00:34:50as being substantial,

00:34:51but I do see them

00:34:52getting money to try

00:34:55and get one or two

00:34:56players in that could

00:34:56maybe shut up shop

00:34:57and maybe something

00:34:59creative.

00:35:00If you were, you know,

00:35:02if you were in that

00:35:03place where you said,

00:35:05what's the priority in

00:35:06that January window,

00:35:07what do you think

00:35:08Danny Roll will be

00:35:09looking at?

00:35:09I would have to say

00:35:10a left-back for starters.

00:35:12They're left-back,

00:35:12they've got the boy

00:35:13Magoma and then

00:35:14they're obviously

00:35:14playing Arons there

00:35:15and having been at

00:35:17the game yesterday.

00:35:17Every time he gets

00:35:18the ball, he naturally

00:35:19comes inside the pitch,

00:35:20everything slows down,

00:35:22it allows the opposition

00:35:22to drop back in.

00:35:24So a left-back,

00:35:26potentially another

00:35:27centre-half,

00:35:28because, you know,

00:35:30in that area

00:35:30they're clearly

00:35:31struggling.

00:35:33Whether Nico Raskin,

00:35:34so this is the thing,

00:35:35is whether you cash

00:35:36in on Nico Raskin,

00:35:37you know,

00:35:37on the Belgian

00:35:38international,

00:35:39I don't think his

00:35:40form's been great

00:35:41this season,

00:35:42but I think

00:35:43you've got him,

00:35:44he's playing well

00:35:45for Belgium,

00:35:45somebody might take

00:35:46a nibble there,

00:35:46which might free up

00:35:48some money that

00:35:48would allow you

00:35:49to cover a couple

00:35:50of these positions.

00:35:52And then,

00:35:53maybe another wide guy.

00:35:55You know,

00:35:55I'm looking at Ant-Man,

00:35:57Kusama's like...

00:35:59Hot and cold.

00:36:00Yeah, very much so,

00:36:00you know,

00:36:01sometimes you see him,

00:36:02you go,

00:36:02he's got something

00:36:03about him.

00:36:04The likelihood is

00:36:05he'll get in double

00:36:05figures this year,

00:36:06Kusama,

00:36:07for your first season

00:36:08I think it's not bad,

00:36:09but, you know,

00:36:10Ant-Man's not really

00:36:11done it.

00:36:13Bajrami,

00:36:13he's obviously just

00:36:14played the other day,

00:36:15whether he hangs

00:36:16about or whether

00:36:17they move him on

00:36:18and maybe free up

00:36:19a couple of quid,

00:36:19but again,

00:36:20that would be a loss,

00:36:21but then he's obviously

00:36:22in good money as well.

00:36:24And then what they do

00:36:25at the top end

00:36:25of the pitch,

00:36:26because that's the

00:36:27number nine jersey,

00:36:28because you've got

00:36:28Danilo,

00:36:29who's on good money.

00:36:32Kermiti.

00:36:32Do you loan him out

00:36:34just to try and...

00:36:35Kermiti?

00:36:36Yeah.

00:36:36Loan him out?

00:36:37I don't know.

00:36:38Was he not linked

00:36:39to Braga about

00:36:40four weeks ago

00:36:41in the January window?

00:36:43You couldn't loan him

00:36:43out at eight million,

00:36:44could you?

00:36:45I don't know.

00:36:46I'm just thinking about...

00:36:47Say you wanted to

00:36:48bring a nine in.

00:36:50Do you know

00:36:50what the thing is?

00:36:51For me,

00:36:51there's two absolute

00:36:53musts for Rangers.

00:36:55Is a number five

00:36:56and a number nine.

00:36:57Yes.

00:36:58The rest of the

00:36:59supporting cast,

00:37:00you know,

00:37:00I think if they were

00:37:01going to say,

00:37:02right,

00:37:02we're going to bite

00:37:03the bullet,

00:37:04they'll bite the bullet

00:37:05at the left back.

00:37:05So what I'm saying is,

00:37:07let's just take

00:37:07the number nine.

00:37:08Who's biting the bullet

00:37:09up there?

00:37:09Who are you getting ready?

00:37:10That's the thing.

00:37:11Because you have to

00:37:11three one up.

00:37:12Because you're currently

00:37:13sat with three.

00:37:14You've got Kermiti,

00:37:15Majofsky and Danilo.

00:37:16So one of them

00:37:17has to go somewhere.

00:37:19I think we all thought

00:37:20when Majofsky came in,

00:37:21he was the one.

00:37:23But he's not done it either.

00:37:24He's not done...

00:37:25You know,

00:37:25with the form he had

00:37:26at Aberdeen,

00:37:27yeah,

00:37:27and then he's obviously

00:37:28good enough to get

00:37:28the river more.

00:37:29Why was he good at Aberdeen?

00:37:31Why was he good?

00:37:32Do you know why?

00:37:32Do you know what

00:37:33his strengths were, Ruffey?

00:37:34Running in behind.

00:37:37Ball over the top.

00:37:38He's facing the goals.

00:37:39Rangers,

00:37:40you have to link.

00:37:40You have to be...

00:37:41And when you're recruiting,

00:37:43you've got so much

00:37:43of the ball,

00:37:44you have to play

00:37:44through the lines.

00:37:45You have to drop

00:37:45and then you have to

00:37:46do various movements.

00:37:48It's what I saw yesterday,

00:37:50which I really do like

00:37:51from the boy,

00:37:52and he's getting better

00:37:53and better at it,

00:37:54is Kieran Bowie.

00:37:57He's rolling players.

00:37:58He's holding it in.

00:37:58He's laying it off.

00:37:59He's getting better at it.

00:38:00He's not the finished article

00:38:01by a long way,

00:38:03but I watched an old

00:38:04thing on,

00:38:06I think it was TikTok

00:38:07or YouTube or whatever,

00:38:08and you saw

00:38:09an old game with Scotland

00:38:11with one of your old teammates

00:38:12and Jordan and Hately

00:38:13and Sutton

00:38:14masters at it.

00:38:15Why?

00:38:16Hold the ball in,

00:38:17lay it to the midfield,

00:38:18get them up the park,

00:38:20or lay it off wide.

00:38:22They had that skill.

00:38:23I know, I know,

00:38:23and it's basic as well.

00:38:25You know,

00:38:25it's no...

00:38:26Chris Sutton had the knack

00:38:27of getting in the 18-yard line

00:38:29and just falling down.

00:38:30Free kick.

00:38:31He also did knacky...

00:38:32Throw a kick.

00:38:32Somebody hit me.

00:38:33Free kick.

00:38:35Goal.

00:38:36You know,

00:38:36that was easy.

00:38:37He also did knacky

00:38:38just going like

00:38:38in the back of my head

00:38:39every time.

00:38:41At throw-ins,

00:38:41you just try and stand

00:38:42in front of him.

00:38:43You just felt

00:38:44it was running.

00:38:44Bang.

00:38:45Well, I remember

00:38:45the other one

00:38:46you were talking about there.

00:38:46I remember Hately's goal

00:38:47against Aberdeen

00:38:48in the title decider.

00:38:50When he went for the header,

00:38:52it didn't matter

00:38:52who was in any area.

00:38:54He was winning it

00:38:55and he was taking them out.

00:38:56But those three

00:38:57that we mentioned there

00:38:58are...

00:38:59It's an art.

00:39:00It's an absolute art

00:39:02just holding that ball,

00:39:03bringing the midfield in,

00:39:04buying people time,

00:39:05getting them an out ball

00:39:06if they're under pressure

00:39:07down the channel.

00:39:08You know,

00:39:09so it doesn't...

00:39:09It doesn't augur well

00:39:11for them.

00:39:11But I must admit,

00:39:12I'm amazed.

00:39:13I don't...

00:39:13Could they take

00:39:15Cermiti out

00:39:15of the equation?

00:39:16The reason why I say this

00:39:17is it was actually reported

00:39:19that Braga were going to

00:39:21try and get a play

00:39:22to get him on loan

00:39:22in January.

00:39:24I think that's a wee bit

00:39:26of any chance

00:39:26you could stick that in there

00:39:27to see if we can get it.

00:39:29Everybody bite.

00:39:30Yeah, exactly.

00:39:31And we'll give you

00:39:32a meal for four

00:39:34in the rest of the time.

00:39:37Cheers, Saturn.

00:39:38Not a plump.

00:39:39Not a chance, exactly.

00:39:41So...

00:39:41And by the way,

00:39:42Butlin yet again

00:39:42comes up with a big save.

00:39:44The deflection is brilliant.

00:39:45He's having to make saves.

00:39:47He's having to make it.

00:39:47Butlin, yeah.

00:39:48He nearly made a pig's ear

00:39:49out at the end.

00:39:50Yeah, the one...

00:39:51The clearance.

00:39:51Oh, it's unlike you

00:39:52to highlight that.

00:39:53No, I've just been

00:39:55observant, just noticing that.

00:39:57But he has been that saviour.

00:39:58Yeah.

00:39:59He's been making the save.

00:39:59When you talk about...

00:40:00No, you go back to

00:40:01South again, what about

00:40:02Smeichel?

00:40:03Smeichel's been making this.

00:40:04Smeichel, huge.

00:40:05Unbelievable, you know,

00:40:06and that's...

00:40:07As Alec will tell you,

00:40:08if you know you've got

00:40:09a goalkeeper like that

00:40:10who's going to make

00:40:11that save for you...

00:40:12Crucial.

00:40:12It's crucial.

00:40:13Yeah.

00:40:13Peter, sorry, just to highlight.

00:40:15See if you were saying

00:40:15about any player

00:40:17that has had pass marks

00:40:18over the piece,

00:40:19Big Butlin has to come

00:40:20into the mix.

00:40:22Absolutely.

00:40:22You know, when you're

00:40:23looking at the rest,

00:40:24I think, you know,

00:40:25yeah, I would say

00:40:27Butlin's probably

00:40:27the standout.

00:40:28Absolutely.

00:40:29Even in a bad day,

00:40:29he's getting six out of ten,

00:40:31isn't he?

00:40:31Aye, aye, no, he must.

00:40:32Big saves.

00:40:32Livingston, 0-Aberdeen, 1-0.

00:40:34Nicky Devlin,

00:40:35it was ten minutes to go

00:40:35when he popped up

00:40:36and scored against

00:40:37his old team.

00:40:38They're heading

00:40:38in the right direction.

00:40:39Five wins in the last

00:40:40seven games.

00:40:41They're a real yo-yo

00:40:42side of Aberdeen.

00:40:43Yeah, man, I used it

00:40:44till he was getting

00:40:45at the bump about

00:40:45four weeks ago.

00:40:46Listen, you can be

00:40:48a yo-yo team

00:40:49but you can be a yo-yo

00:40:49pundit.

00:40:51You know, and he's

00:40:52like that though,

00:40:53isn't he?

00:40:53They're digging it now,

00:40:54aren't they?

00:40:55They're digging it out

00:40:55the wee result here,

00:40:56the wee rub of the green.

00:40:57I thought Livingston

00:40:58were okay.

00:40:59They had chances.

00:41:00The disappointing

00:41:01thing for me was

00:41:03David Martindale's

00:41:04demeanour

00:41:06after the game.

00:41:08That's the first time

00:41:08I've seen him

00:41:09like that, really down.

00:41:10Was it like a league

00:41:11winning 12, Robbie?

00:41:12No, but you could see

00:41:13it was affecting him.

00:41:14He was talking it up,

00:41:15he was saying,

00:41:16oh, we're unlucky there.

00:41:17VAR's a nightmare

00:41:18but the interview

00:41:19afterward, you could

00:41:20sense, you know,

00:41:21that...

00:41:22Well, the problem is

00:41:23can he score goals?

00:41:24Yeah, it's always

00:41:25the top-ended pitch

00:41:26is always, if you

00:41:27kind of get guys

00:41:27on a regular basis

00:41:28it becomes a real

00:41:29difficult job.

00:41:30As you thought,

00:41:31and I don't often

00:41:32give him a lot of

00:41:33praise, Shunny,

00:41:34but the way he won

00:41:34the ball back down

00:41:35in the corner

00:41:36and he set it back

00:41:37and they delivered it

00:41:38to the back ball,

00:41:39the little chip

00:41:40for Devlin was a

00:41:41tremendous ball

00:41:42and he just goes

00:41:43back across to

00:41:44the goalkeeper.

00:41:45I thought it was a

00:41:45really well-worked goal

00:41:46and you're talking

00:41:48about these moments

00:41:49because they're

00:41:50definitive because

00:41:51there's not a lot

00:41:51between these teams

00:41:52on their day

00:41:53and Aberdeen seem

00:41:55to be getting that

00:41:55at the moment

00:41:56and the one thing

00:41:56that's in their favour

00:41:57as well is they're

00:41:57not conceding a lot

00:41:58now, Aberdeen.

00:41:59They seem to have

00:41:59showed it up a little

00:42:00bit, but that's a

00:42:02really important win

00:42:03and they're going

00:42:03in the right direction.

00:42:04Yeah, absolutely.

00:42:05They're now seventh

00:42:05thing heading up the

00:42:06way rather than

00:42:07they could have been

00:42:08dragged in if

00:42:08Livingston had got

00:42:09the win, but they're

00:42:10not and I think they

00:42:12deserve credit for it

00:42:13and you have to

00:42:14at times, as Alec

00:42:16pointed out there,

00:42:17the yo-yo nature of it

00:42:18Robbie, you have to

00:42:19give him credit when

00:42:21he's winning the games.

00:42:23But can I say

00:42:24something to you?

00:42:24I asked a couple of

00:42:25Don's fans that I'm

00:42:26quite pally with and I

00:42:29said to them about

00:42:29and they were like

00:42:31the jury's out, they

00:42:33just can't work it

00:42:34out, you know, okay

00:42:35it's a good run, fine

00:42:36but still not

00:42:37convinced, you know

00:42:39because they've had

00:42:40that and then they

00:42:41had that and then

00:42:42they're having this

00:42:43wee bit again, but

00:42:44I don't know what the

00:42:45expectation is, I

00:42:46don't see a definitive

00:42:49style on them.

00:42:50We're coming to a

00:42:51team that I do see a

00:42:52definitive style on

00:42:52shortly, but I don't

00:42:53see one with them.

00:42:54But by the way, he's

00:42:56getting them close to

00:42:57getting into the top

00:42:58half and he deserves

00:42:58credit.

00:42:59Yeah, and the players

00:43:00deserve credit as well

00:43:01because we were all

00:43:02scalping them after that

00:43:036-0 defeat in Europe

00:43:04and we were blaming

00:43:05them for the

00:43:05coefficient and

00:43:06Alex Wright, they've

00:43:08got their act together,

00:43:09they're putting a bit

00:43:10of digging now, they're

00:43:11shutting people down,

00:43:12they're getting a wee

00:43:13rub of the green,

00:43:13getting a late goal,

00:43:15things like that and

00:43:15that can only help the

00:43:17dressing room, but

00:43:18you're right, they've

00:43:19got a long way to go.

00:43:20Yeah, okay, a team

00:43:21that I do know exactly

00:43:22the way they play is

00:43:23Motherwell.

00:43:24Motherwell nil,

00:43:24Hearts nil, and

00:43:26again, everybody was

00:43:27talking, I get in

00:43:28sometimes it gets lost

00:43:29in it all.

00:43:31Motherwell up the

00:43:32table, third in the

00:43:33table, Hearts, everybody

00:43:35was looking at them

00:43:36thinking, nine points

00:43:36clear of Celtic, this is

00:43:37the chance, but it

00:43:40slipped away, six

00:43:41points from the last

00:43:4215 available in the

00:43:43last five games for the

00:43:44jambos, but still Derek

00:43:46McInnes is just trying to

00:43:48put it all in

00:43:48perspective.

00:43:49Yeah, I think so, I

00:43:50think we're, I'm

00:43:52delighted that even

00:43:54ahead of the game we

00:43:54had a chance to go seven

00:43:55points clear, even

00:43:56saying that as a

00:43:57Hearts manager, that

00:43:58in your near

00:43:59end of December, a

00:44:00chance to win to go

00:44:01seven points clear,

00:44:02there has to be some

00:44:03sort of perspective.

00:44:04These boys are human,

00:44:05they work hard, they

00:44:06care for the club, we

00:44:07try and get results, so

00:44:10there's no real

00:44:10criticism for me, there's

00:44:12certain things I

00:44:12thought we could have

00:44:12done better today, and

00:44:14there's a bit of

00:44:15frustration towards

00:44:16that, but we're doing

00:44:18a lot right, but a

00:44:18good thing going here

00:44:19at the club at the

00:44:20minute, and it's

00:44:21important we just, as

00:44:22I say, hopefully try and

00:44:23win a game of football

00:44:23on Wednesday, if we can

00:44:26do that, then we get

00:44:27the next weekend's game

00:44:28in a decent place and a

00:44:29good position in the

00:44:30league.

00:44:31Yeah, five games on the

00:44:33Wednesday card, we

00:44:34will keep you up to

00:44:35date with that right

00:44:36across our social media

00:44:37channels, but you can

00:44:39understand why Ruffy's

00:44:40trying to put a

00:44:41positive spin on it, he's

00:44:42got to try and keep

00:44:43them going until maybe

00:44:45he gets reinforcements in

00:44:46January as well.

00:44:47Yeah, I think they have

00:44:49been a breath of fresh

00:44:50air this year, we can't

00:44:51take anything away from

00:44:51them, yeah, there are

00:44:53going to be times when

00:44:54you come up against a

00:44:55team that are there to

00:44:56be hit, they're there to

00:44:57be hit it now, you

00:44:59know, everybody's going

00:44:59out to Rangers and

00:45:00Celtic, it's hearts, oh

00:45:02we've got hearts this

00:45:03weekend, let's get

00:45:04something off of them

00:45:05and let's knock them

00:45:06down a peg, and that's

00:45:08what teams are doing

00:45:08now, that's what

00:45:09Motherwell did, you

00:45:10know, you're right,

00:45:10Motherwell did play

00:45:11some good football, I

00:45:13like the wee boy you

00:45:13keep raving about, is

00:45:14it Just his name, is

00:45:15it Just?

00:45:16Yeah, Justin, what's he

00:45:18from?

00:45:19He, I think, is New

00:45:20Zealand.

00:45:21He's on loan, isn't he?

00:45:22He's on loan for

00:45:23somewhere down in

00:45:23England, maybe I'm

00:45:24wrong, but I think he

00:45:25was on loan.

00:45:26You think so?

00:45:26I thought he was

00:45:27signed, actually.

00:45:27Anyway, he's a breath

00:45:28of fresh air, he looks

00:45:30as a great wee shimmy

00:45:32he did, you know, to go

00:45:33through, obviously.

00:45:34That's a word I've not

00:45:34heard for a hundred

00:45:35years.

00:45:35Oh, listen, he'll bring

00:45:36them back, he brings

00:45:37them all back, yeah.

00:45:39He's a slug of your

00:45:40ginger.

00:45:40He was, you're a

00:45:44tiser.

00:45:45Yeah, you're a tiser,

00:45:46yeah.

00:45:47Aye, he was unlucky, the

00:45:49goalkeeper, the goalkeeper

00:45:50made a good save, but

00:45:51yeah, if you're a

00:45:52motherboard supporter

00:45:53just now, you're on

00:45:54a high.

00:45:54Yeah, my favourite

00:45:55player on the whole

00:45:56team, I mean, Just is

00:45:59up there, he's Elliot

00:46:01Just, he's from New

00:46:02Zealand, I was absolutely

00:46:03right there, and no,

00:46:06no, he's signed.

00:46:07Yeah, yeah, he's

00:46:08signed, so you're

00:46:09talking, yeah, he's

00:46:12AC Horsens, he's

00:46:14signed from, so there

00:46:15you are, so you're

00:46:17talking rubbish again,

00:46:18you, just taking a

00:46:20I've got you to

00:46:20check, I don't know

00:46:21I have to check, I

00:46:22have to check, because

00:46:22you always throw those

00:46:23little grenades, and

00:46:24my favourite player on

00:46:25that team is the guy

00:46:26who makes it all tick

00:46:26for them, which is

00:46:27Elliot Watt.

00:46:28Yeah, good player.

00:46:29Yeah, he just keeps

00:46:30everything, he's nice.

00:46:30Listen, actually, the

00:46:32brand of football

00:46:33they're actually playing

00:46:33in Motherwell is

00:46:34really impressive, they

00:46:35try and construct for

00:46:36the back, they've

00:46:37got real pace and

00:46:38power as well

00:46:39throughout the team

00:46:40and it's interesting

00:46:43because he actually had

00:46:44a sticky period for a

00:46:45while there, didn't

00:46:45he, and then obviously

00:46:46a couple of good

00:46:47wins, he's actually

00:46:47kind of pulled him up

00:46:48the league, but he

00:46:50sticks to his

00:46:50philosophy, Peter, he

00:46:51tries to play out, as

00:46:52you say, and they're

00:46:54getting the rewards, and

00:46:55I think when you speak

00:46:56to Motherwell fans,

00:46:57they're absolutely

00:46:57delighted, because you're

00:46:58talking about a brand,

00:46:59so even days off where

00:47:00you're not getting the

00:47:02result, most fans are

00:47:03wanting the result, but

00:47:04they're going to

00:47:04listen, you can see

00:47:05what he's trying to do.

00:47:05Yeah, they're responding

00:47:06to him as well, and I'm

00:47:07going to ask you the

00:47:08question, we're going to

00:47:09hear from Jens Berthal

00:47:10Asgau, but I'm asking you

00:47:11the question, what does

00:47:12the game between

00:47:13Motherwell and

00:47:14Hearts at the weekend,

00:47:1510,938 fans, what does

00:47:17that have to do with

00:47:19Alec Ray, what's the

00:47:21connection as Jens Berthal

00:47:23Asgau praises this huge

00:47:25bumper crowd from the

00:47:25weekend?

00:47:26Obviously for us, it

00:47:28means a lot, but it

00:47:30also means a lot for

00:47:32people to have something

00:47:33to look forward to and

00:47:35go to together as a

00:47:36community, which makes

00:47:38them proud and makes

00:47:39them get good

00:47:40experiences together,

00:47:41and that's what we want

00:47:43to try to create with

00:47:44the way we do things,

00:47:46several tracks of how we

00:47:50try to develop this

00:47:51club, first of all,

00:47:52creating results, second

00:47:53of all, creating an

00:47:56identity, which people

00:47:58can be proud of and

00:47:59identify with.

00:48:01Yeah, and I'm just

00:48:02about to say to you,

00:48:0310,938, huge hearts

00:48:05would bring a great

00:48:06support as well, but

00:48:08what's the connection

00:48:10Raffi, 10,938, the

00:48:13last time the biggest

00:48:13crowd at Firth Park was

00:48:14recorded before that was?

00:48:17Was Alec playing

00:48:18with Rangers for that?

00:48:19No, no, but he had a

00:48:21connection to it, the

00:48:23last time.

00:48:23No, no, it was

00:48:24somebody.

00:48:25Do you want to have a

00:48:25wee stab at it?

00:48:26No.

00:48:2710,938, the last time

00:48:29there was that big a

00:48:31crowd at Firth Park was

00:48:32the helicopters changing

00:48:33direction in 2005.

00:48:35There you go, sir.

00:48:35There was a connection

00:48:36between you and I in

00:48:37that one, isn't there?

00:48:38Yes, absolutely.

00:48:39But he's absolutely

00:48:40right.

00:48:41See what he was

00:48:41talking about there,

00:48:41an identity, the fans

00:48:43are buying into it.

00:48:43Obviously, hearts are

00:48:44travelling, supports

00:48:45tremendous as well, so

00:48:47made for a brilliant

00:48:48afternoon.

00:48:49And yeah, it's

00:48:51interesting listening to

00:48:52Derek as well.

00:48:52I think you have to

00:48:53put perspective on it.

00:48:54Obviously, the last four

00:48:56or five games, there's

00:48:56not what they're looking

00:48:57for, but it was always

00:48:58going to be difficult to

00:48:59maintain that winning

00:48:59streak.

00:49:00Yeah.

00:49:00And then the thing is,

00:49:01once that streak's

00:49:02broken, you then have to

00:49:04go back on a run again.

00:49:05And once they do that, I'm

00:49:06sure, once they get one or

00:49:07two victories under his

00:49:09belt, I think they're going

00:49:10on a run again because

00:49:11they've got the

00:49:11personnel, they've got

00:49:12match winners at the top

00:49:13end of the pitch, and

00:49:14they've got a big squad.

00:49:15Yeah, absolutely.

00:49:16OK.

00:49:17Come on at one, Dundee

00:49:17United, one United, now

00:49:19winless in the last four

00:49:20games.

00:49:21They're shipping goals,

00:49:21Ruffy, and that's

00:49:22probably where the problem

00:49:23comes.

00:49:23Ten goals in the last six.

00:49:25Yeah, particularly the

00:49:26midweek one last week was a

00:49:27big shocker for them.

00:49:28So they'd want to go into

00:49:29that game and try and get

00:49:30something out of it.

00:49:31I don't think they ever got

00:49:32going.

00:49:33I don't think Come on at

00:49:34got going either.

00:49:35I think, obviously, the

00:49:36penalty incidents are the

00:49:37things we'll be talking

00:49:38about.

00:49:39But, you know, I think I

00:49:42thought we'd come on at

00:49:43getting the first goal

00:49:43that we'd, OK, they've

00:49:44been on a bad run, that'll

00:49:45give them a wee lift.

00:49:47But lo and behold, it

00:49:48never.

00:49:48Yeah.

00:49:49They just went back to

00:49:50their old ways.

00:49:51And fair play to Bruce

00:49:52Anderson because I like

00:49:54Bruce as a person as

00:49:55well, but I like him as a

00:49:56player.

00:49:57He works hard.

00:49:57Like graphs.

00:49:58And even when the keeper

00:50:00makes a save, you've got

00:50:01to anticipate, haven't

00:50:02you?

00:50:02I have to be honest with

00:50:03you, he's given a good

00:50:04old clip.

00:50:05See if the goalkeeper

00:50:06are anywhere near that.

00:50:07He was in the net,

00:50:08I don't know.

00:50:09Honestly, he took a

00:50:10runny at it, haven't I?

00:50:12Honestly.

00:50:13You should do what you

00:50:15should do.

00:50:15You should go back to the

00:50:17schoolyard and just play

00:50:18runny.

00:50:19Play peaver and

00:50:20everything.

00:50:20Oh, I have to be honest

00:50:21with you.

00:50:22But see, the thing is,

00:50:22obviously, you're a

00:50:23goalkeeper.

00:50:23How do you get the

00:50:24trajectory where you had

00:50:25that little spin coming

00:50:25back off him?

00:50:26I know.

00:50:27You know, and it's just

00:50:27landed right up him, but

00:50:28he's absolutely blasted

00:50:29it.

00:50:29And, listen, I've had a

00:50:32few where I've missed

00:50:33and you're trying to just

00:50:34please come back off

00:50:35him.

00:50:35Yeah.

00:50:36But he's obviously

00:50:36hit that one.

00:50:37And it was important

00:50:38for him as well because

00:50:38they want to try and

00:50:40break that cycle.

00:50:41You know, I was

00:50:41listening to Stuart

00:50:42Kettlewell a couple of

00:50:42weeks ago and he says

00:50:43we're trying all different

00:50:44shapes, different personnel

00:50:45and we're trying to get

00:50:46that elusive victory.

00:50:48But I know they're

00:50:49diligent in what they do

00:50:50down there, him and

00:50:51Stephen Frail.

00:50:52So, you know, hopefully

00:50:53they can get a victory

00:50:54soon.

00:50:54Yeah.

00:50:55I'll tell you who's

00:50:55playing well for United

00:50:56even when they're going

00:50:57through this difficult

00:50:58time.

00:50:59Sybil, isn't he?

00:51:00He's chipped in with

00:51:01goals.

00:51:01Even with the goal that

00:51:02he scored, you know, you

00:51:03could see him being in a

00:51:04position and he was

00:51:05anticipating where the

00:51:06ball was going to go

00:51:07before everybody else.

00:51:09He sort of just peeled

00:51:09off, you know, and

00:51:11thinking, well, the ball's

00:51:12going to come back in

00:51:13here.

00:51:13It's going to come back

00:51:14in where I am and he

00:51:16read it well and

00:51:17obviously slid in and

00:51:18just got it.

00:51:19He scored a few

00:51:19wildies of late but

00:51:20that was important for

00:51:21him at the weekend and

00:51:22I feel as if Sybil has

00:51:24been about for like so

00:51:25long but he obviously

00:51:26played at Falkett as a

00:51:28youngster.

00:51:29Yeah, he crewed a lot

00:51:30of games and I feel as

00:51:32if he's in a purple

00:51:32patch of his career, you

00:51:33know, where he is at

00:51:34the moment.

00:51:35I think he's leading

00:51:36the way up there at

00:51:36United.

00:51:37Did you go as a

00:51:37penalty?

00:51:39The header?

00:51:40The two boys with the

00:51:41header.

00:51:41No, I didn't.

00:51:42I thought it was a

00:51:43coming.

00:51:43See the thing, that's

00:51:45the thing they talk

00:51:45about, natural contact

00:51:47and if you're going to

00:51:49win a ball and sometimes

00:51:50you get there and

00:51:51there's a coming

00:51:51together, I just

00:51:52didn't see enough in

00:51:53it to warrant that.

00:51:54I thought the first

00:51:55one was, I thought

00:51:56that was a clear

00:51:56penalty.

00:51:56You couldn't have a

00:51:59former player on the

00:52:00VAR by the way.

00:52:01No, you would never

00:52:02have it.

00:52:03It'd just be a nightmare

00:52:04because they'd turn

00:52:05around to the other

00:52:05two match officials

00:52:06and go, that's never

00:52:07a penalty, I know

00:52:07exactly what he was

00:52:08thinking there.

00:52:09Do you know what I

00:52:09mean?

00:52:10You'd end up with

00:52:11just constant arguments

00:52:12and they'd be going

00:52:13delay, delay for five

00:52:14and a half minutes.

00:52:15Listen, I get it

00:52:16every week.

00:52:16Yeah.

00:52:17Obviously we're

00:52:18winning quite a lot

00:52:19of games of late.

00:52:20Yeah.

00:52:21I'm still irate about

00:52:22some of the decisions

00:52:23I see on a weekly

00:52:23basis.

00:52:24Absolutely.

00:52:24Listen, thank you

00:52:25to Bob who thinks

00:52:26that anybody I pay

00:52:27a compliment to is

00:52:28my mate and I

00:52:29really like them.

00:52:31So somebody thinks

00:52:32PLZ just loves

00:52:33Derek McKinnis.

00:52:33Bob says, Bruce

00:52:35Anderson, another

00:52:35mate of Peter's.

00:52:37No.

00:52:38He's not.

00:52:39I just like players

00:52:41who...

00:52:41I just put a shift

00:52:42in.

00:52:42Yeah, put a shift

00:52:43in.

00:52:43Graft.

00:52:44And you know, when

00:52:45it's not going well,

00:52:46still graft.

00:52:47Aye, well that should

00:52:48be the starter for

00:52:4910, no?

00:52:50Yeah, absolutely.

00:52:50And of course, you

00:52:51know, if I was picking

00:52:53the ultimate for a

00:52:54me, I'd have

00:52:54Pirlo's and, you

00:52:57know, and Javi and

00:52:58Niestas all day

00:52:59long, Ruffy.

00:52:59Is that fair?

00:53:00I think so, aye.

00:53:01I think it'd be good

00:53:02to watch A3.

00:53:02Yeah, absolutely.

00:53:04Dundee 3, St Mirren

00:53:051.

00:53:06I'm going to talk

00:53:06about the positives

00:53:07because, again, I

00:53:08like Stephen Presley.

00:53:09Big Elvis.

00:53:10I think he needs a

00:53:11bit of time.

00:53:12Like many managers,

00:53:13let's not have

00:53:14knee-jerk reaction.

00:53:15Well, listen, I

00:53:16think it was always

00:53:16going to be difficult

00:53:17for him because he

00:53:18came in, he wasn't

00:53:18a popular choice.

00:53:19And I like Big

00:53:21Elvis, I love his

00:53:21post-match.

00:53:22I know he was

00:53:22going to...

00:53:23Do you know the

00:53:23thing I see when

00:53:24he goes on the

00:53:24telly?

00:53:25You never know

00:53:25what you're going

00:53:26to get.

00:53:26You say, oh, I

00:53:26was dreaming that

00:53:27and all this,

00:53:27carry on.

00:53:28So, I think he's

00:53:29a breath of

00:53:29fresh air.

00:53:30Now, I've not

00:53:31really taken to

00:53:32him up there.

00:53:33It was very

00:53:34difficult.

00:53:34He had no

00:53:34players leading

00:53:36up to the

00:53:37season starting.

00:53:38And this was a

00:53:39massive result for

00:53:40him.

00:53:40What, are they

00:53:40fourth bottom in

00:53:41the league?

00:53:42And they've

00:53:43obviously beat

00:53:43someone round

00:53:44the bilm, so it

00:53:45was an important

00:53:45three points for

00:53:46him.

00:53:46And the one

00:53:47thing you can

00:53:48say about the

00:53:48team up there,

00:53:49they're grafting.

00:53:49You know, we're

00:53:50obviously missing

00:53:50the boy Anderson,

00:53:51but they're all

00:53:52charging about.

00:53:52You know, you

00:53:53look at the big

00:53:53boy Murray,

00:53:54charging about,

00:53:55puts pressure on

00:53:55the defender and

00:53:56then results in

00:53:56equaliser quite

00:53:58quickly after

00:53:58St Mirren's

00:53:59scored.

00:53:59So, I think it's

00:54:00a brilliant result

00:54:01for the multi-

00:54:02Dundee there.

00:54:03And obviously

00:54:04Stephen Robinson's

00:54:05trying to kind of

00:54:06get that winning

00:54:06formula because I

00:54:08look at them, I

00:54:09watched them play

00:54:09against Celtic last

00:54:10week, I thought

00:54:10they were unlucky

00:54:11to get something

00:54:11for the game.

00:54:12And you think,

00:54:13they've got a lot

00:54:13of good attributes

00:54:14and a lot of

00:54:15good players.

00:54:16It's just not

00:54:17harmful for them

00:54:17at the moment.

00:54:18No, Dundee have

00:54:19brought a new

00:54:20head of recruitment

00:54:21in Gary Piggott,

00:54:22who will be

00:54:23working closely

00:54:23with Stephen to

00:54:24try and identify

00:54:24players.

00:54:25So, he knows

00:54:26they're going to

00:54:27be, even with

00:54:28new players coming

00:54:28in in January,

00:54:30Dundee know that

00:54:30they're going to

00:54:31be in that battle

00:54:32to try and avoid

00:54:32the play-off.

00:54:33But, boy, I did

00:54:34not expect St Mirren

00:54:35to be second

00:54:36bottom of the

00:54:36table.

00:54:37No, I think we

00:54:38all know what

00:54:39you get when you

00:54:40play against St Mirren,

00:54:40particularly at

00:54:41home.

00:54:42But even away

00:54:42from home, they've

00:54:43been very, very

00:54:44good this year.

00:54:45I just thought, and

00:54:47you could see

00:54:47with them getting

00:54:48the first goal

00:54:49with the boy

00:54:49Anderson, making

00:54:50a mistake, you

00:54:51could sense what

00:54:54was going on with

00:54:55the Dundee boys.

00:54:56But then, obviously,

00:54:57they got the goal

00:54:58and they got the

00:54:58next one, which I

00:54:59think the goalkeeper

00:55:00should have done a

00:55:00wee bit better.

00:55:02Who was it?

00:55:03Dre, was it?

00:55:03Dre that scored the

00:55:04goal?

00:55:04Yeah, right.

00:55:05He put it first

00:55:06post.

00:55:06He was at the

00:55:07right.

00:55:07He's at there.

00:55:08He's at the post.

00:55:08I'd be sure you're

00:55:09allowed to go in

00:55:12there.

00:55:12But to get back to

00:55:13Stephen's interviews,

00:55:15I've been saying

00:55:15every week he's been

00:55:16getting beaten.

00:55:17He's been coming in

00:55:18and going, I like

00:55:19what I saw.

00:55:20There was points

00:55:21there, I like what

00:55:22I saw.

00:55:22I like what I saw.

00:55:23Stephen Presley.

00:55:24You keep saying

00:55:25to yourself, you've

00:55:26just lost five

00:55:26games in a trot.

00:55:27What are you seeing

00:55:28that we know?

00:55:30But a result like

00:55:30that proves that if

00:55:32you believe that the

00:55:33players that you see

00:55:34week to week are

00:55:36getting better, you

00:55:37get these kind of

00:55:37results.

00:55:38In contrast to that,

00:55:39Stephen Robinson

00:55:40didn't miss after the

00:55:42game because he's

00:55:43basically said,

00:55:44listen, some players

00:55:45think they're going

00:55:45to the cup final.

00:55:46They won't be in the

00:55:47cup final team.

00:55:49And then he's

00:55:49obviously had a go

00:55:51as well and says,

00:55:51you know, there's

00:55:52not even an impact

00:55:53from substitutions

00:55:54that are made, so

00:55:55they're under

00:55:56pressure too.

00:55:57Yeah, well, it's a

00:55:57scattergun approach

00:55:58in it because he's

00:55:58looking for a result,

00:55:59Peter, and obviously

00:56:01with the cup final in

00:56:01a couple of weeks,

00:56:02two weeks away now,

00:56:03so he's looking

00:56:04to try and get a

00:56:05one to change this

00:56:06recent form and

00:56:08also kind of make up

00:56:09his mind for the

00:56:09cup final because he

00:56:10must be sitting there

00:56:11at the moment thinking,

00:56:12right, okay, what is

00:56:12my best team?

00:56:14And as I said to you,

00:56:15I look at the

00:56:15personnel they have,

00:56:16you know, I think

00:56:17middle to front,

00:56:18they've got good

00:56:19options.

00:56:20At the back as well,

00:56:21they're robust.

00:56:22The middle part, you

00:56:23know, I don't know

00:56:24whether they kind of

00:56:24talk about Phillips,

00:56:26you know, potentially

00:56:26leaving to go down

00:56:28south.

00:56:29Yeah.

00:56:29Because that would

00:56:31be a blow for him

00:56:31because he's obviously

00:56:32a real big physical

00:56:33specimen in the middle

00:56:35of the park, so, but

00:56:36again, his form's

00:56:37dipped as well as

00:56:38the rest, so he would

00:56:39just be looking to

00:56:40try and get a tune

00:56:40out of them and I

00:56:41think a wee bit of

00:56:42harsh words after the

00:56:43game, they might start

00:56:43thinking about it.

00:56:44Well, we've got

00:56:45Petaudry on Wednesday

00:56:46night up against

00:56:46Aberdeen, Celtic at

00:56:47home to Dundee, with

00:56:50Martin O'Neill still

00:56:51in charge.

00:56:51Dundee United against

00:56:52Rangers at Tannadice

00:56:53is going to be a

00:56:54tasty one.

00:56:55Falkirk against

00:56:56Motherwell, two

00:56:56footballing teams, that

00:56:57could be a right good

00:56:58one if you're a

00:56:58football purist, and

00:57:00Hearts against

00:57:01Kilmarnock at home, I

00:57:04think Hearts will be

00:57:05looking to try and

00:57:06make sure that they've

00:57:07got the points so that

00:57:08it all leads to the

00:57:09game against Celtic.

00:57:11Yeah, well, I mean,

00:57:12as I say, it's changed

00:57:13this year, the first

00:57:15thing, well, the first

00:57:15thing I'm looking at is

00:57:16a neutral, I'm looking

00:57:17at the Hearts score,

00:57:18I'm looking at, oh, is

00:57:20that another one, is

00:57:20that another one, or

00:57:21have they dropped

00:57:22points, have they dropped

00:57:22points again, so you're

00:57:24looking at every game

00:57:25Hearts are going into

00:57:25now and going, well, if

00:57:27they slip up here, that's

00:57:28it, if they don't

00:57:29win this game, that's

00:57:30it, and that's what

00:57:31you're saying, so they

00:57:32really need to start

00:57:33winning games, they've

00:57:34got an ideal opportunity

00:57:35against Kilmarnock, who

00:57:36aren't they playing

00:57:36particularly well.

00:57:37Yeah, and Dundee

00:57:38United against Rangers.

00:57:39Interesting.

00:57:40Yeah, absolutely, I don't

00:57:41know what he does, is he

00:57:43just, do you get the

00:57:45feeling he's just limping

00:57:46towards that window?

00:57:47January.

00:57:48Well, the thing is, I

00:57:50would suspect that he's

00:57:51trying to get a better

00:57:53performance, Peter, you

00:57:53know, a more high-energy

00:57:55performance, and if he

00:57:57wins that, it's five wins

00:57:58out of six in the league

00:58:00campaign, so you can

00:58:02tolerate that, so you can

00:58:03see something to work

00:58:04with, but the performance

00:58:06levels haven't been

00:58:07great.

00:58:07You look at Livingston

00:58:08two weeks ago, where

00:58:09they should have had a

00:58:10penalty, they've obviously

00:58:11still got to score that,

00:58:12but at the weekend, three

00:58:13shots on target, that

00:58:14would be a concern for

00:58:15them, because if you're

00:58:16only hitting the target

00:58:17three times, it doesn't

00:58:18leave a lot of room for

00:58:20manoeuvre, and it's

00:58:21nowhere near enough, and

00:58:23one thing I know about

00:58:24going on, it'll be

00:58:24Tanadice, of recent

00:58:25years, they always raise

00:58:28their game, Rangers

00:58:29coming to town, and

00:58:30there's no love lost

00:58:31between the two sets of

00:58:32fans, so, you know, the

00:58:34Dundee United fans will

00:58:35be looking for them to

00:58:36put more misery on

00:58:38this Rangers fan base

00:58:42and players.

00:58:42Yeah, and just one

00:58:44little footnote, Ruffie,

00:58:45before we go, obviously

00:58:47Martin O'Neill, it's

00:58:48written in the stars,

00:58:49it's a farewell at

00:58:50Celtic Park, usually

00:58:52when you hit the early

00:58:53part of December, the

00:58:54crowd starts to drop

00:58:55as the queues at the

00:58:56fort gets even bigger,

00:58:57you know, and I was

00:58:58doing my head in the

00:58:58other day there, but

00:59:00nevertheless, Ruffie,

00:59:02you know, it's a

00:59:03farewell at home, and

00:59:04they'll be expecting a

00:59:05big gate for all the

00:59:06Celtic fans to say

00:59:07thank you, although

00:59:08typical of Celtic

00:59:10supporters at Easter

00:59:11Road, and that's the

00:59:12one thing I was going

00:59:12to ask you, you know,

00:59:13they did change the

00:59:14tune, there's a tune

00:59:15that they sing, Martin

00:59:16O'Neill, Martin O'Neill,

00:59:17and the third and the

00:59:17fourth verse are the

00:59:18same, Martin O'Neill,

00:59:19Martin O'Neill, and

00:59:20they changed it to

00:59:20sack the board, sack

00:59:21the board, so they

00:59:22clearly, you know, still

00:59:24wanted to make their

00:59:24protest.

00:59:25Just one little

00:59:26footnote, why do

00:59:27Hibs and other clubs

00:59:28persist with this small

00:59:30section of Celtic fans,

00:59:32or Rangers fans, and a

00:59:33whole stand empty?

00:59:34I mean, they had a

00:59:36splattering of Hibs fans

00:59:38in that area where

00:59:39they could have had a

00:59:40whole bank full of

00:59:41Celtic and Rangers fans

00:59:42take the money, take

00:59:43the money!

00:59:44Yeah, well, the

00:59:45board are the only

00:59:45people who can answer

00:59:47that one, you know,

00:59:48obviously they're

00:59:48appeasing their own

00:59:50fans, probably their

00:59:51own fans wanting to

00:59:52say, well, we want

00:59:52more of our fans in

00:59:53than the visiting

00:59:55fans.

00:59:55Make a business

00:59:56decision, that's why

00:59:56you're involved.

00:59:57That's what I'm

00:59:57saying, if you've got

00:59:58empty seats, you've

00:59:59got to chip that out

01:00:00of the road.

01:00:01It drives me mad.

01:00:02It drives me mad when

01:00:03I see seats.

01:00:04And do you know when

01:00:05you talk about a

01:00:05spectacle?

01:00:06We're beaming this,

01:00:07and we're selling this

01:00:08product to other

01:00:08countries as well.

01:00:09Yeah.

01:00:10And you could have

01:00:10the four sides

01:00:11absolutely jam-packed,

01:00:13and they make a

01:00:13decision not to

01:00:14dare.

01:00:14I don't get it.

01:00:16I don't get it.

01:00:16And even when I was

01:00:17at St Mirren, I was

01:00:18like, you need to

01:00:19sell the stand,

01:00:20because, again, it's

01:00:22a player.

01:00:23But it didn't go

01:00:24down particularly

01:00:25well with the

01:00:26natives.

01:00:27Yeah, absolutely.

01:00:28Okay, thank you

01:00:29very much to Alec

01:00:30and to Ravi, and

01:00:31thank you to our

01:00:32new sponsors, Cameron

01:00:33Commercial Vehicles,

01:00:34who are on board

01:00:36for the rest of the

01:00:37season, the ideal

01:00:38company to source

01:00:39your new and

01:00:39quality-used

01:00:40commercial vehicles.

01:00:42Thank you to so

01:00:42many of you for

01:00:43your comments, as

01:00:45ever.

01:00:45Don't forget, as

01:00:46well, we'll play the

01:00:47commercial later on

01:00:48in the week, but

01:00:49you've got a chance

01:00:49if you subscribe to

01:00:50PLZ Soccer's

01:00:52premium service, you

01:00:53get a chance to get

01:00:54in to the end of

01:00:55the season, in the

01:00:55draw, a chance to

01:00:56win yourself, a

01:00:57ticket for you and

01:00:58your pal, flights and

01:00:59accommodation, and

01:01:00two tickets to the

01:01:01Champions League final

01:01:02in Budapest in the

01:01:04Puskas Arena.

01:01:05Certainly worthwhile.

01:01:06But from everybody

01:01:07here, thank you for

01:01:08listening and

01:01:09watching.

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