00:00it's gotta be going come on he's gotta be losing his where's our advantage we're supposed to be
00:04the home team and you get none be able to wait for our opponent and now they're going to find
00:10out later than anybody else any of the other teams in ohsaa do you think it's right though
00:16that they should be able to play that glenville man this initial ruling i i have hated almost 95
00:23percent of the reaction i am seeing about this story i hate it all i hate it all because it's
00:28been made so much larger than just a football game it's we've gotten into socioeconomic stuff
00:35i mean there's one ohsaa says there's one glenville player that is actually homeless
00:40there's actually homeless and i've seen people go after that like no you have to prove your
00:45residence you just have to and i'm like no you don't we just have to like let's just stop with
00:50that like let's stop with the nonsense like we can understand we can have a normal conversation
00:54and say that glenville did not cross their t's and dot their i's they just didn't there's a flat
01:00out failure by their administration and and they jeopardized they jeopardized those kids and shame
01:06on them for that and we can also say that yeah living in the inner city is a little bit
01:10different
01:10from living in the suburbs like and we're going to war with hunting valley like we can understand
01:17that people in hunting valley and neighboring uh suburbs have a little little bit more advantages
01:24than some of the people in glenville so can we all dispense with the nonsense and have a normal
01:30conversation beyond that yeah because nobody's willing to have a normal conversation about it
01:34can i tell everybody what you said to me the one time yeah go ahead so i'm from northeast ohio
01:40but
01:40i'm not like i had no idea that there was a hunting valley until i moved here in 2011
01:47all right i'm from canton northeast ohio but i'm from canton i did not know there was a hunting valley
01:52until i got here in 2011 there are polo fields and i did not know i drove through i go
01:57i don't even
01:57know how to find it and literally lima goes and that's how they want it and i was like that's
02:02great
02:02line i didn't realize that yeah i i one i've ended up in hunting valley two times and it was
02:07all by
02:08accident and lima and that's how they want it they don't even want you to find it by accident
02:12kenny i was like okay i didn't know i i feel bad i was blown away by what i saw
02:16i'll tell you that i feel bad for so many people involved in this because congratulations and all
02:20your success this is supposed to be a celebration of teams that had a great year in high school
02:25football and the whole glenville thing was screwed up from the get-go because like they've been accused
02:30of manipulating enrollment numbers which they're not the only school to try to put themselves in
02:37the right region in the right division to maximize their their ability like i get that i understand that
02:45like we have to probably go back to how we draw these lines as boy it seems like i'm getting
02:50political but it seems like we probably should if we're gonna optimize fairness in high school
02:56football there are better ways to go about it than what we're doing right now and it's not an easy
03:00task for ohsaa at all but the fact that glenville didn't even know what division and the rest of the
03:05high school football didn't even know what division they were in until like three weeks ago four weeks
03:09ago like that's ridiculous i just got a text that says the salem coach put out a thing yesterday saying
03:14they're looking forward to playing university school i don't think university school wants to
03:17play anybody i don't i don't want to accuse those kids of anything either because it's not like i've
03:21talked to those kids i didn't say the kids i didn't say the kids didn't want to play anybody i'm
03:25sure the
03:25kids want to play football that's why they're playing football you want to play the game but
03:32it seems that some powers of be just aren't really that interested am i wrong well that's the judge
03:39santoli said it and i will also say this what percentage of high school football teams and
03:44their season with a loss that make the playoffs 98 99 99 yeah right okay so this whole thing should
03:54not be about we're doing everything we can to win one game like you got every team loses every team
04:01loses the teams know you can only crown one champion the teams know if they're a true
04:05championship caliber team so how do you want to go down how do you want your loss to be
04:10is i guess my question i'd rather lose on the football field to be honest with you yeah you
04:14would yeah yes you would we played glennville once i'll never forget it see they gave you a
04:23great memory the ted get in that game no i didn't i'll tell you this right now uh i got
04:29to be on field
04:30goal team and i always get to say i was on the same field as ted ginn jr and let
04:33me tell you this
04:34there is still a video somewhere on youtube of what he did against us and it is absolutely amazing
04:39it was the great one of the greatest things i've ever seen in my life i'm dead on a football
04:42field
04:42it's one of the greatest things i've ever seen in my life i couldn't be mad at him it was
04:47that amazing
04:49unbelievable stuff 216-474-0092 yeah you if you're gonna go down you want to go down on the field
04:54like
04:55you go down with your boots on that's the way it is it's it's what day of the week is
04:59it it's wednesday
05:00yeah so you're not playing a game and then another game this weekend that's off that's
05:04that's impossible so now it has to go to the courts to just decide who moves on is that the
05:11spirit in
05:11the spirit of high school football it's is that what people want it's insane is that what either
05:17glennville or i don't think that's university but i don't think that's what anybody wants i don't think
05:22that's what anybody wants so like again like you have you say all these things and it's and you're right
05:27but at the same time who where was the failure at where was the fail i mean you just you
05:32said it
05:32the cross the t the cross and the t's and not the i's and not doing their stuff and then
05:35i'll say and
05:36i've been in conversation with ohsia about this um through a few of the steps and i there are good
05:42people i don't make them out to be the bad guy in every argument like so many people do but
05:47there's
05:47people the ohsia i really like why did they not impose an earlier deadline than the end of the year
05:54that's ridiculous what was the reason behind that deadline that deadline should have been imposed
05:58a month ago get get your information in and then so the courts this was always going to go to
06:04the
06:04courts it's not like they they threatened out of nowhere we there were people embedded in high
06:09school football that knew this was always going to go to the courts so make this go to the court
06:14sooner than once the playoff starts sucks it it it i i like the program uh i i i i
06:23am
06:23in awe of what ted get ted get ted get senior's been able to do i really am i don't
06:28think it's
06:28really fair i i think it's the most unfair to salem for crying out loud yes um but this is
06:34just this
06:34has gotten very and you can tell the judge is as annoyed as i've ever seen a judge in a
06:38courtroom
06:39i think ever on anything like this in my life well then people said y'all he's just doing this
06:43for
06:44the cameras in the election he ran on a post so that was unbelievable i mean he ran on a
06:49post that guy
06:49was seriously pissed as he was saying what he was saying yesterday that we played for you
06:54all right let's get the phones geo in cleveland hello hey guys good morning hi i i i i'm gonna
07:00agree with lime on this i can't believe it but you know i think does anybody else find it ironic
07:06that
07:06the single most expensive preparatory school in ohio is complaining about recruitment and bringing kids
07:12in and the reasons of playing and players eligibility it's like this is a joke right like somebody's
07:17honking us because like everybody knows how much it costs to go to school there everybody knows that
07:23that's basically a college in a high school atmosphere and i think what uh mr ginn senior
07:28does is amazing what he does for these kids is he gives them a way out and it's like sometimes
07:33if
07:34you've ever played ball this is the only thing these kids have and a bunch of snooty kids from yes
07:38hunting valley are complaining shut up well i don't think it's okay i'm not gonna blame the kids
07:45though i'm not gonna blame the kids the coaches the coaches give me a break give me a break like
07:50stop it the adults like stop it grow up you know what don't get your butts whooped by i guess
07:57glenville because that's what's gonna happen i guess i just don't understand geo thank you i guess i
08:02just don't understand why they could not have organized the game to be played and i know it was
08:08a stunt glenville showed up saturday and you know there's in dispute whether there were officials
08:13there or whatever why could they not have just played that game do they live in the and then
08:18and then let the courts decide based on that but at least have them play the game and then the
08:24ua the
08:25university kids would have had the awesome experience of a playoff game for sure they would have got in
08:30a playoff game and then glenville plays their game and then we find out what like why did we have
08:36to do this to where there was no game played what sense does that make it's the playoffs yeah the
08:40whole point of this is to play the games i i would again i there's no disagreement on my end
08:45there's
08:46no disagreement on my end because again i go i went into this years ago thinking that if you lived
08:51in
08:51the city of cleveland you could just go to glenville i did not know that there was like neighborhood
08:55sections off where you couldn't go to glenville and the whole gin academy work around and things like
09:00that like they're saying 64 65 or whatever it was didn't go to glenville okay well if you go to
09:05gin academy you're still able to go from what i'm to understand and i thought that was always the
09:09case and i thought that that was always the case too i'm looking at gin academy i'm like wouldn't
09:12these kids just play for glenville where they go to gin academy i'm sure there's maybe a few
09:16then end up playing for other places in the city but i'm going all right you didn't you didn't get
09:21them illegally from out of state they're not of an illegal age they're not of they're not in bad
09:27standing with their grades from what we know there so those three things are right there i and if
09:33you're talking about proven residency this that and the other again i got a homeless god i can't
09:37believe you're saying i'm saying you got a homeless kid on the team well i don't know if that kid
09:41is
09:42i can't imagine he's living in kirtland or that's so it's it's seedy it's so seedy right and and what
09:50it is is true it's like hey you have provided it out there is a pipeline there if you live
09:55in the city
09:56if you have means if you don't have means there's still a way to send somebody from glenville to more
10:02than likely ohio state a couple other places obviously they're big places but mostly ohio
10:06state to more than likely ohio state and then on to the nfl to make the most of the talents
10:10that
10:10you're given i i still don't necessarily see the bad thing in any of this other than why didn't you
10:16get your stuff in when you had to get your stuff in as an administration i get if there's if
10:21there's
10:21a parent who maybe they didn't have the means to get the things written in maybe they didn't have
10:26this thing i understand maybe there's parents there but i mean for the love of god or guardians
10:31in this case i can understand that i really can but when it comes to the administration the school
10:35administration i mean this is what you pay people for am i wrong and it's just it's just hard for
10:41me yes and they're failing the kids wants to do the great thing but again this is this is the
10:45second instance yeah i would just say it's like that this huge advantage that yes glenville has as a
10:51football school they they do have an advantage they've got they've got better players let's not
10:56let's not delude ourselves here like they have they have better football players they have probably
11:00more more skill more athleticism and that's their advantage and if you're doing a tail of the tape
11:07though i i think we understand that you know there's another school that's disputing this that like
11:12they're saying everything's unfair to the kids from hunting valley and around like like let's take a
11:18let's let's take a wider view let's zoom out a second here as if those kids in east cleveland
11:24and those kids in cleveland wouldn't do everything they could to trade places with them if it were
11:28in real life we want to talk about advantages if it were the iron situation or something like that and
11:33i don't mind ireland or ireland i'm just saying if it were again illegal recruiting which again from
11:38everything i know the kids are from in the city all right if it's something illegal like that then
11:43okay i i can stand by it if there's something again with the age of the players i can
11:48stand by it if there's something with the grades i can stay even though every district has their
11:52different things of what they hold accountability to i and i get that there might be some people
11:57have issues with district to district but if they're in good standing there i don't have a
12:01problem with that that was i think those are the biggest things because i i was i swear to you
12:06i was
12:06under the impression that if you lived in the city whether it be in ohio city or be right next
12:11to
12:11glenville high school that you just could go to glenville or you could go to adams or you can go
12:15to
12:15hay or or morgan or wherever that's what i thought and it's it's obviously hard too because you have a
12:23lot of schools you know not just private schools now in ohio where kids come from six or seven
12:28different counties well let me get this but but we're worried about a kid coming from eight miles
12:32down the road or four miles down the road or two blocks over we gotta think about that i think
12:36this
12:36might be a dissenting opinion here here's don in cleveland hello don top of the morning fellas
12:41hi all right so here so so here's the deal i'm gonna break it down to you guys it hasn't
12:46been
12:47where you could switch a school for a long long time at your own uh liking okay you have to
12:53live
12:53within a certain district right if your school doesn't have a sport then you have to play to
12:58the nearest high school that does have does have a sport ted gen recruits players from throughout the
13:06city and then they come in with hardships they're not the only school that does that now you know
13:12i'm i'm in the know with the uh cmsd baseball and a lot of schools do that what normally happens
13:17when
13:17you switch is that that student can play the first half of the season and they can't play the second
13:24half and they can't play the playoffs that's what normally happens um but then you have hardships like
13:29this this kid that's homeless i'm not going to dispute that he is or is not but a lot of
13:33times
13:34that's just what they do just to get the kid to play i'm not saying that's the case but a
13:38lot of
13:39times that is what what happens now i think what happens so wait real quick real quick real quick if
13:45you're if you are classified i can't believe if you are homeless are you allowed to play the rest of
13:52the season in the postseason is what you're saying yes yes if if it is uh approved and what happens
13:58is
13:58at least on the baseball end is that these kids will go live with their aunt their uncle or say
14:04i took them in and the community of baseball at least is so small you know they play on different
14:10summer teams or you coach them in the youth or their cousin plays on their team and we understand that
14:15that's not what's really happening it's just ways to get the kid to play there and and at the end
14:20of
14:20the day who really suffers is the high schools that they're supposed to be playing right like all the
14:25great players are getting poached and going to one certain school and the rest of the cmsd football
14:31suffers for that now shout out to uh the road ramps who play in avon this friday gotta win you
14:36know
14:36yeah they gotta win last one i got a hoodie from yesterday last week yes you know um but the
14:42rest of
14:42the schools are the ones that really really suffer you know because they're trying to make a super team
14:47and i and i get it you know you got your sane eds and you're saying the nations and it's
14:51hard to
14:51compete against them but they're not in the same division anymore i get it but i mean now with that
14:56choice you've got thank you for the call you've got kids that the whole point was we were supposed
15:00to champion kids going to the schools they want to go to right and with state subsidies behind it
15:05so i mean if we want to get into that this is going on this is what the leadership wanted
15:10in the
15:10buckeye state so now we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna say it's okay for certain kids in the
15:15suburbs to do that but we're not okay with kids doing it in the inner city like come on here
15:19let's let's have a
15:20let's have an honest conversation about that around the afc north at 801 i don't think we'll
15:24be talking about that with our brethren from around the afc north oh i think ken wyman is really in
15:29tune with this right now pony i mean he'll i think pony will probably make another bet about how he
15:35dog feces if salem ends up playing glenville this weekend something measured and thoughtful yes
15:42coming up in five minutes about last night
15:46can we do about last night without you mentioning uh races i can okay what black and white no you
15:52psycho political races no no no coming up in five minutes we go to about last night on the fan
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