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00:00Owen, I love Owen. I hate that open.
00:03Well, it's the first one you've listened to in probably three weeks.
00:06It's true.
00:08Yeah, normally you're putting on the headphones.
00:10You know why?
00:10Screaming about something that doesn't do with the show.
00:12You know why?
00:14Sound scared.
00:15Sound surprised, sound scared.
00:18Sound like I don't believe it.
00:19Sound like I can't believe it.
00:20It's game day.
00:21We're getting ready for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
00:23You said all that.
00:24Yeah, I said that absolutely, 100%.
00:27So you hate yourself.
00:28I hate, well, I didn't say I hated you.
00:30I hate myself.
00:31I hate myself.
00:32I hate myself for sounding so surprised, so scared.
00:35You said I love Owen.
00:36I hate that open.
00:37I love Owen, and I hate that open.
00:39Well, what is there to be scared about?
00:41I don't know.
00:41I just sounded so like, was this after a win?
00:45Did I say this after a win?
00:47Yeah, we got to get the, if you can, we got to get the Stanley going.
00:51We got to get it going.
00:53It's a game day.
00:54It's October 1st.
00:55Well, do it for Ken.
00:55I'm not scared at all.
00:57You know, but maybe it's just, it just sounds, it sounds like I was nervous about winning
01:04for whatever, for the reasons, like, oh my God, like I've always, I've always compared
01:09it to robbing a bank.
01:10Like, oh my God, we got to get out of here before we get caught.
01:12Oh my goodness gracious.
01:13Wait, hurry up.
01:14Hurry, hurry, hurry.
01:15Get these wins.
01:15Get these wins while we can.
01:17And it's like, hey man, it's Thursday night.
01:21They're 10 and two on Thursday nights.
01:23They're four and oh against the Steelers on Thursday nights.
01:25It's Owen, thank you very much.
01:27Like, that's what we are.
01:29And we have a chance to be three and one.
01:32And I got a Steelers team that is reeling right now.
01:37Can I use the term reeling?
01:39I know they just won.
01:40Well, no, they just won.
01:41They're two and one.
01:42You got, well, hold on.
01:43They have the same record as us.
01:44Hold on.
01:44They haven't had a losing season in 58 years.
01:46They haven't had a losing season.
01:48No, it's not been 58 years.
01:50It's been a long time.
01:51It's been a long time.
01:52Feels like you got to go back to Bubby Brister.
01:53That's what's bad about that.
01:55I made up a number that sounds astronomical.
01:57And you believed it.
01:57But it could be true.
01:58Guarantee part of the audience believed you.
02:04It's so odd.
02:06Because I'm feeling good right now.
02:08Like, everything's so positive.
02:10Everything's so, like, we're in our emotions.
02:13Like, we're going to play the Jordan Schultz clip coming up at 623 where Todd Munkin's like,
02:18I believe in you, Deshaun.
02:20Like, he's this Mr. Miyagi.
02:22And they are two and one.
02:24And we are back home.
02:26And it is Thursday night football.
02:28And all those things I said again.
02:29And then I just said, like, I feel like the Steelers are reeling because they just traded
02:32Joey Porter for, like, a couple of picks.
02:35Joey Porter Jr.
02:35They just traded him overnight for, like, a couple of picks from the Cowboys.
02:39Well, one's a second rounder.
02:40Isn't it a 2028 second rounder?
02:42So, that's two years from now.
02:43So, I ain't got to worry about anything like that.
02:45So, you've had a good wide receiver that you've traded to the Cowboys in George Pickens.
02:49You've had a good cornerback that you've traded to the Cowboys in Joey Porter Jr.
02:53The conversation all the last three weeks, even though they're two and one, is about Joey
02:57Porter Jr.
02:58I don't know, man.
02:59I'm feeling good.
03:00I'm feeling really, really good right now.
03:01Yeah, I feel decently good about today.
03:04But you said everything's positive.
03:07I think the fan base is very split on that just by gauging the reaction of our listeners.
03:13They seem to be all over the map on this.
03:15Let's gauge them again.
03:152-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
03:18Let's see where it goes.
03:19And I don't even, I wouldn't even say that I'm all positive.
03:23I think I am kind of having fun with it because I just was in the pit of despair before
03:28the
03:28season started and thought they were going to win four games.
03:31So, like, in my mind, they're already halfway there.
03:33I'm kind of playing with the house of money.
03:34If they can win two games in a week, then clearly when you get to 3-1, you're going to
03:39be talking
03:39about playoffs until you're eliminated.
03:42I know.
03:42So, the playoffs are something that actually seem feasible at 3-1.
03:46I'm just trying to go through my own emotions here because I don't know if 6 o'clock, the
03:51day of a football game, the day of a Thursday night game, or one prime time game, is the
03:56time for measured analysis.
03:58I don't think it is.
03:59I think that's up to other people.
04:00I don't think that's for me.
04:01I don't think I'm here to think.
04:03Don't you do a pregame show for the Browns?
04:05I understand that, but I don't think I'm here to think.
04:07What do you do on that?
04:09Just words come out?
04:10Yeah, basically.
04:13You do a countdown until kickoff?
04:14Well, okay, fine.
04:16Well, let's see how the...
04:17First down, second down, third down, fourth down.
04:20Out of bounds.
04:21Oh, all the sponsored items?
04:23Yeah, you've got to do all that.
04:24I did that for a long time.
04:25Do we want to get nuts, or do I want to sit here and go, you know, I don't know.
04:29Elton Jenkins being lost for this game, that's going to be a toughie for Luke Whippler.
04:34I think fans just want to know, do you have a gut feeling?
04:36Yeah, but I've had gut feelings before, and my gut has lied to me.
04:39But wait, is it a positive one?
04:40Because so far...
04:41Oh, I got a positive gut feeling about tonight.
04:43You're all over the map.
04:43I got a positive gut feeling about tonight.
04:46Does it feel like Ken has a positive feeling about tonight?
04:48I don't know what Ken's doing right now.
04:49No, I'm saying I am upset.
04:50I don't know what he feels.
04:52I told you I am upset with how I sounded.
04:56And again, I'm not blaming you.
04:57In this segment?
04:58Don't blame me on a clip that I literally took from our Twitter.
05:02I understand that.
05:02That has been all over our social media for 22 hours now.
05:05Ain't your fault.
05:06You said it, Ken.
05:07I know.
05:08And I just sound so measured.
05:09About time you look in the mirror, Ken.
05:11Well, I don't have mirrors, except in the bathroom, during coming in high.
05:15And maybe those gut feelings would change.
05:17Well, I mean, I can't.
05:19You know, there's only so much you can do.
05:20Stop stuffing that gut full of feelings.
05:21I can still see it, so I don't want to hear it.
05:23Yes, when I look down.
05:24When I look down, I can see.
05:26So what I'm telling you is that it is game day, and I want to be excited.
05:30And I don't know how to react right now.
05:32I don't know whether or not I should be measured and tell people.
05:36Even though I have a good gut feeling about tonight,
05:38I don't know if you want me to sit here and give you analysis,
05:40or do you want me to get excited and whoop it up and let's play Michael Stanley.
05:44What do you want?
05:45I mean, for someone that's got a good gut feeling, you sure sound like a Frady.
05:50I'm not.
05:50You sound scared again.
05:52I am not scared.
05:53See, you do not think they're winning.
05:53I am not scared.
05:54You do not think they're winning.
05:55Don't put it in the newspaper that I was scared.
05:57I'm not scared.
05:57We don't have one of those.
05:58Don't worry about it.
05:59It is 6.09 in the morning, and I am running hot, baby.
06:02Let's get going.
06:03There's paywall for the rest.
06:03Let's get going.
06:04You don't need no paywall for these emotions.
06:06This is absolutely free.
06:09Can Doth protest too much?
06:10I think you do sound scared.
06:12I don't even know what that means.
06:15I ain't scared.
06:16Stop saying I'm scared.
06:17I ain't scared.
06:18There's nobody scared here.
06:22I think you're scared if you're accusing me of being scared.
06:25I feel good about this.
06:27Oh, you feel good?
06:28I kind of exactly where I was last week.
06:30I was leaning Browns all week.
06:33I'm not allowed to pick the Browns.
06:34It's been a shorter week.
06:37Do you feel like you have house money, Anthony?
06:39I do.
06:40He said that already.
06:41I do.
06:41I felt like this team was going to be such one.
06:44How's that house money?
06:45Because I thought they were going to be a total disaster.
06:47I thought Watson was going to be a disaster.
06:48And by the way, if they would have started Shador, I wouldn't have felt all that much
06:51better.
06:52I would have been more excited about a younger player.
06:54That's true.
06:54But I wouldn't have been all that optimistic about things.
06:58I mean, Todd Munkin clearly wasn't all that optimistic about him either.
07:02So, now that they've already won two games, and the way they've done it, too, is pretty
07:07incredible.
07:07I mean, they've had no running game.
07:09They've had no down-the-field passing game.
07:11The timing has been horrendous between Deshaun and the wide receivers.
07:15There's a little bit of running game on Sunday.
07:17A little bit.
07:18And in the end, they're 2-1 because they've had fourth quarters.
07:22His fourth quarter passer rating is like the top in the NFL.
07:25It's like right ahead of Patrick Mahomes.
07:272-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-9.
07:29So, I think that's where the house money element is to it.
07:32Plus, you know, exciting young wide receivers.
07:34Mason Graham playing like a man possessed.
07:37Just, I'm feeling all these things.
07:39Yeah, I'm not going to let you call a Michael Stanley right now, Ken.
07:43Why?
07:43When you sit there, you sound like two different people having a discussion with yourself.
07:47You're trying to tuck yourself into a fervor right now?
07:51No, I am in a fervor.
07:52It's got to be genuine.
07:54I am genuine.
07:55Oh, come on.
07:56Are you serious?
08:03Brett, in Zanesville, you are next up on The Fan.
08:08Brett.
08:10How's it going?
08:11Good morning to you.
08:12Hello.
08:14Yes.
08:14I just really think the biggest thing they've got to get going tonight is they've got to
08:19get the run game going because that's going to open up everything more for Deshaun.
08:22I think that's their biggest struggle right now.
08:25It's just not having a run game.
08:28Analysis.
08:29It's what you wanted, Tone.
08:30You get it.
08:31You get the analysis.
08:32Brett, do you want me to analyze with you or do you want me to whoop it up?
08:36What do you want me to do?
08:38However you want to do it.
08:40Oh, Brett.
08:40Oh, Brett.
08:43You can't leave it in my hands.
08:46All right, Brett.
08:47First off, thank you very much for the call.
08:49Obviously, the run game's a big deal.
08:50All right?
08:52Obviously, the run game's a big deal.
08:54It's just, man, I just, I don't know, man.
08:56I just got gut feelings over here.
08:59And it's this weird week.
09:02Just feeling good, man.
09:04Feeling good.
09:05Feeling good.
09:07That's good.
09:07People are accusing you of getting me to try to pick the Browns, by the way.
09:10Well, you can't.
09:11I'm not allowed to pick the Browns.
09:12It doesn't matter.
09:13I'm not allowed to supersede everything and pick the Browns.
09:16I just, I see a Steelers team that I understand is 2-1.
09:21You got Joey Porter Jr. gone.
09:23It's been a massive distraction.
09:24I still think it's going to be a distraction today.
09:26It's game day.
09:27I know he wasn't with them when they made the trip over here.
09:29I would understand that.
09:31Yeah, that whole situation's been bizarre.
09:33I got one of the youngest rosters in the NFL
09:36against one of the older rosters in the NFL.
09:38I think they're the second oldest roster in the NFL.
09:41It's just, man, it's...
09:45It would feel like it's a changing of the guard
09:48if I had full faith and confidence in Deshaun Watson.
09:52It's really what it feels like.
09:53It would feel like this is a full-on...
09:56Like, before the 1970s, it was all Browns.
10:00Then the 70s, it was the Steelers.
10:0280s, we took it back.
10:0590s and basically beyond, it's been the Steelers.
10:08And it just, it feels like we're about to get the baton back.
10:12And I would be willing to go the full way if it weren't for...
10:18Like, I still am not there.
10:20I'm still not there with the QB.
10:22Why does it feel that way to you?
10:23Because they're getting a new quarterback next year?
10:25Because they're old.
10:27Because Aaron Rodgers is goofy.
10:30Tomlin is...
10:30I don't feel the same way about Mike McCarthy as I did Mike Tomlin.
10:35I have respect for Mike McCarthy as a head coach,
10:38but not nearly as much as I had for Mike Tomlin.
10:40They put together the run of three coaches in what?
10:44And that was in 50-something years, right?
10:46Very long time.
10:46And now McCarthy's going to be there...
10:48Yeah.
10:48Three?
10:50Maybe?
10:51Probably.
10:52I mean, the man is, what, 60?
10:53So he's not that young.
10:55So he's not going to be there too terribly long.
10:58Man, it's just everything about the Steelers and goodness
11:01seems to be talking about the past instead of the future.
11:04Like, we're going...
11:05Like, I woke up this morning and I'm watching Mike Tomlin
11:08in his Minecraft video.
11:11And by the way, I got to tell you, that's pretty impressive.
11:13I'm not...
11:14I don't follow Minecraft a lot.
11:15I basically walk by my kids while they're doing the Minecraft thing
11:18and it just looks like a lot of blocks that I would pick up
11:20if they were real and put in a box
11:22and just clean up the room.
11:24This is a whole city.
11:26A detail-oriented man, as a head coach would be,
11:29certainly got the details right in his Minecraft city.
11:32I know you saw about 30 minutes of it.
11:34I couldn't believe it.
11:34He had a baseball and a football stadium there.
11:36So you have two stadiums there.
11:38I watched about 30 seconds of it.
11:40I'm like, all right, I got it.
11:41And then the internet went nuts about it.
11:43I do have a lot of thoughts on whether or not Mike Tomlin
11:46was compromised during the Minecraft journey.
11:49As far as what?
11:51Your mind has only so much space.
11:55Did Minecraft encroach on the football space?
11:59Oh, without a doubt.
12:00He woke up thinking Minecraft.
12:02There were days.
12:03He did not wake up thinking football.
12:04There were days, I'm willing to say...
12:06He stayed up too late doing Minecraft.
12:08Yes.
12:08Oh, yeah.
12:09There were days...
12:09Dreaming about Minecraft.
12:10There were days he was going to go to base,
12:12like, I got to go into the office at 430.
12:13And then he looks and it's 2 a.m.
12:15And he's doing Minecraft.
12:16I guarantee there were games, like, in the middle of a third quarter timeout
12:19or something like that.
12:20He's like, I'm going to put that section on the stadium later on tonight
12:23when we get home.
12:24Like, if they were winning or something like that.
12:26Guaranteed.
12:26Yeah, 100%.
12:27Guaranteed.
12:28To be this devoted to this craft.
12:30Yes.
12:30This Minecraft.
12:31For all I know, he might have been thinking that when they elected to punt
12:34in the playoff game against the Browns.
12:36He might have been thinking about punting on the one section that he was going to build.
12:40Who knows?
12:41I don't know.
12:42I just, man, I just, it's hard to say it.
12:44It's hard to explain your emotions going into something like this.
12:47I'm just, I got this good feeling.
12:49I just got a good, good feeling about today.
12:52And I can't explain why.
12:54It's just hard to explain why I got a good feeling about the Browns today.
12:58Okay?
12:59That's how I feel.
13:00And I just sounded so analytical there.
13:02And I didn't like it.
13:04And I just want to whoop it up.
13:05That's all.
13:05That's all.
13:06That's all I wanted to do.
13:08I want to whoop it up.
13:09I want to pep rally today.
13:12I want the Michael Stanley going.
13:14I want the whole, I want the pop, the circumstance, the whole deal, man.
13:18I want a golden goose.
13:20If only Kenny truly believed in it.
13:23I'll just sing in my, I do.
13:24What are you talking about?
13:24Oh, yeah.
13:25Anybody that heard the first segment is all about that.
13:27I want this.
13:30Can I scream louder?
13:32Give me Michael Stanley.
13:32Does anybody want me to scream louder?
13:34You sound like a spoiled child right now.
13:36How do I sound like a spoiled child?
13:38I really want to try hard to love the Browns right now.
13:44How should I sound then?
13:46I don't know.
13:47Not like that though, Ken.
13:50I sound how I sound.
13:51You sound like you're willing yourself into wanting the Browns to win today.
13:54No, no.
13:55Hand to God.
13:55Hand to, what do you mean?
13:56I always want the Browns to win.
13:58I will stand here on, you bring me in the Bible.
14:02I got a Bible in the truck.
14:04You bring the Bible over here.
14:05I'll swear on the Bible.
14:06You bring all the Bibles.
14:07I'll swear on all of them.
14:08What do you want?
14:09Went to every hotel in the city getting their little Bibles.
14:13Who won 6474-0092?
14:16It just, I will admit, if it weren't for our current quarterback situation, it would feel
14:21to me like a changing of the guard.
14:22That's all.
14:23I got Mason Graham playing his butt off.
14:25I got a good young secondary still.
14:28I can't believe it.
14:29I got Tyson Campbell coming back.
14:30I understand, yo, Elton Jenkins being out as a center is a bit of a loss because of
14:35the concussion.
14:36Okay.
14:37I still got some good young players there.
14:39I don't know if we're going to be able to find Casey Concepcion, but I think that that's
14:42a Denza, that's a Deshaun Watson situation.
14:44I don't think that's as much on Casey Concepcion.
14:47I'm just, I'm just feeling good, man.
14:48I'm just, just feeling good.
14:50Okay.
14:51Damn it.
14:52I'm feeling good.
14:52And I think that they can win today.
14:54All right.
14:55I would pick them if I could.
14:57I'm not allowed to.
14:58What's the spread in this game, Owen?
15:02Steelers by a million.
15:03Chris, in the car, you're next up on the fan.
15:07Let me tell you something.
15:09We are supposed to be 0-3 right now.
15:11We are going into Steelers.
15:13It's true.
15:13The Steelers are 0-4 on Thursday night against Cleveland.
15:18Yes.
15:18This is what we have wanted.
15:20Yes.
15:21The Steelers are 0-4 on Thursday night against Cleveland.
15:25That's how you do it.
15:28We are checking them out.
15:29Chris, thank you.
15:30This is what I'm talking about.
15:32Fire it up.
15:33Whoop it up.
15:33I got a sweat going.
15:35It's 6-19 in the morning.
15:37Chris is in a car.
15:38Chris, thank you.
15:39I hope you get all the green lights today.
15:41Thank you very much.
15:43Let's go.
15:45Come on.
15:48Get excited, damn you.
15:49He totally means this.
15:50Come on.
15:51I love what he said.
15:52Because you won't come with me.
15:54I love what he said.
15:55They have a chance to win.
15:57They're the two-and-a-half-point dogs.
15:58It's the NFL.
15:59Of course they have a chance to win.
16:01Thanks for instilling that confidence, Ken.
16:03You just dump all over.
16:04They totally have a chance to win.
16:05We'll just do Sad Bastard Radio for three-and-a-half hours.
16:08They're two-and-one.
16:08We'll do three.
16:09We'll do Sad Bastard.
16:10And nobody in Pittsburgh has any confidence in their team.
16:12Yeah.
16:13I think we have a chance to win, Kenny.
16:14Sad Bastard Brown.
16:15Thank you for the newsflash.
16:18What would you like to talk about next, then?
16:20Tuffy?
16:21What would you like to discuss?
16:22Then I think we can pull this one out, Kenny.
16:24That's it.
16:25Yes, of course they have a chance.
16:28You needed that guy to tell you that?
16:30I wasn't getting any support from you.
16:33I said I was leading Browns all week.
16:36Thanks for coming around to my side.
16:38I'm not allowed to come around to your side because I told everybody I wasn't going to
16:41pick the Browns after they lost week one.
16:43Oh, nobody cares about that anymore.
16:44He does?
16:45That feels like an eternity ago.
16:46No, he does, and so do you.
16:47Yeah, because I think you want to rope me into it, and if they lose tonight, you can beat
16:51me up all day long tomorrow.
16:52That ain't going to happen.
16:53That's not a thing we do on this show, Ken.
16:54That's something you've done for 12 years.
16:57We haven't even been on the air for 12 years.
16:59You were thinking about it two years before the show was even on the air.
17:04Just excited, that's all.
17:07And Carmen Anthony Lima.
17:10Jordan Schultz said something, even though I'm really excited.
17:13I don't know if I'm willing to go this far about Deshaun Watson.
17:16What did Jordan Schultz say?
17:17He said it on the Pivot podcast.
17:18You'll hear it in five minutes on the fan.
17:19Brooks. We'll
17:19you in a beautiful light. One minute.