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Willard and Dibs join Steiny and Guru on a Wednesday edition of the Crossover. The guys react to the news that 49ers rookie wide receiver De'Zhaun Stribling underwent surgery to his injured ankle, talk about sports documentaries, and more.
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00:00Striveling is out with an ankle.
00:03He'll go on IR later this week.
00:04He had surgery today.
00:06Not exactly sure, but it's going to be some time.
00:08You know, close to 10 weeks.
00:10Now, back to Stiney and Guru on 95.7 The Game.
00:14All right, it's time for the crossover brought to you by Bay Alarm.
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00:20Let's welcome in Willard and Diggs.
00:22I couldn't wait for them.
00:24Now I feel like the party's turned.
00:26We were having a party this whole show today.
00:28You said we were in our bag.
00:29You guys were in your bag.
00:30I need to get a life.
00:31I heard almost the entire four hours.
00:33No, we love you.
00:34Now with this Niner news, and Will, I'm looking at you like,
00:36does he have a long face?
00:37I can't tell.
00:39Long face?
00:40Yeah, for the bad news.
00:42The bad news for the Niners is Striveling and Tonson.
00:45Well, they were already out.
00:46You know what I mean?
00:47The only news to me is that I actually think it could be good.
00:52I think a lot of Niner fans were worried that Striveling was going to get,
00:56as we would call it, pure salt.
00:58Right.
00:58I saw it for the whole year.
01:00Well, no.
01:01What I mean by that is, okay, let's rehab it, and then you come back.
01:05That's the worst.
01:06And then he's going to get hurt again.
01:07This way, it's a cost-controlled move.
01:10It sucks.
01:11I'm devastated for Striveling.
01:14You guys know this.
01:15No one was more excited about this dude.
01:17Well, Diggs and I had our predictions.
01:18You had your predictions.
01:20I couldn't wait to see this dude ball.
01:22Four three speeds, man.
01:24But now, and I love what I heard Kyle say at the back end of it.
01:27He's like, this is going to be 10 weeks, but then it's over, and he's going to be good.
01:31Like, I think that they just took the long view of, like, get him right, be sure, be done with
01:37it.
01:38We'll see you for Thanksgiving.
01:39Yeah, last thing before you go, Diggs, Stiney, we just had a caller second-guess the Niner staff on when
01:46he was hurt and him going back in the game.
01:47But I said, that's just the world we live in.
01:50There you go.
01:51That's the people's second-guess everything.
01:53So he gets dinged up, and you go in the tent, and you check it out, and the doctors can
01:58see right away if something's broken.
01:59And Mark and I always, I guess we don't joke about the ACL, but we reflect on the reality, which
02:04is when you tear your ACL,
02:06the doctor grabs your thigh, basically, and your calf and goes, bloop, bloop, yep, ACL.
02:12Like, you can know, like that.
02:14It's easy to tell.
02:15Wow.
02:15With an ankle, it's like, how's the ankle?
02:17It hurts.
02:18Well, you remember when we were kids, Stiney, and I love the fact that, you know, you're from the old
02:22school,
02:22but you would roll your ankle, and the first thing you would do would be lace the shoe up as
02:27tight as possible,
02:28go ahead and constrict it, and get back out there.
02:31So he's making his debut.
02:33You're down under, and you roll your ankle, and you're thinking, it's not that bad.
02:37And then it happens a second time.
02:38It's like, okay, it's worse.
02:40And now it's the deltoid, which nobody ever does.
02:44No, I didn't even know that that was, yeah.
02:45We all know the deltoid.
02:47It's in your shoulder.
02:47That's what Stiney got.
02:48I thought I had it wrong.
02:50I thought it was deltoid.
02:51Boy, is limping because of a deltoid?
02:53We really got a problem with the substation now.
02:56Good God.
02:57Oh, God.
02:57Yeah.
02:58So, no, I mean, how would fans react if, you know,
03:03Stribling just had a mild ankle sprain and didn't come back?
03:07Oh, right, right, right.
03:08Because we, exactly.
03:10So, I don't know, man.
03:12I, you know, this is just, I can tell for a few years now,
03:16this is what we're going to do to the 49er training staff.
03:20It's the same group that got George Kittle over and Achilles in eight months.
03:23It's the same group that's got Nick Bosa out on the field and Fred Warner.
03:27But, sure, let's cherry pick and put it on them
03:32because somebody got hurt in a football game.
03:34I don't dig that.
03:36But, you know, I'm super bummed that he's out.
03:39But we'll see him in November.
03:41And the fact that Shanahan is confident that it's going to be 10 weeks
03:44and then he's back.
03:45And so, at that, he will miss nine games because the bye happens before that.
03:50So, theoretically, he would come back and have seven games of playing.
03:54Although, I do think if it's 10 weeks,
03:57that means there might be a ramp up of a week or two.
03:59I could be wrong.
04:00No, I get you.
04:00But you're still looking at, ideally, like December, early December,
04:04which means five more games, the difficult stretch,
04:07as you and Steini and all of us have laid out,
04:10where those are some tough opponents and then maybe playoffs.
04:14Yeah, I feel like the way they were going to handle this
04:16was they were going to give it about a month
04:18and see if it worked out.
04:20And if it didn't, then they were going to have surgery.
04:22So, at that point, if they would have had to have surgery,
04:25then the season is in jeopardy.
04:28So, maybe, I think you're right.
04:29They just decided, let's just bite the bullet now.
04:32And I noticed how Shanahan was saying,
04:35he'll be back in 10 weeks and he'll be fine.
04:38Yep.
04:39Which is, you know, pretty confident from a coach
04:41who's, you know, dealing with an injured player.
04:44They usually play it more careful than that.
04:45Well, it's also, it's after the trade deadline.
04:48So, who knows what world he'll be coming back to.
04:51It could work out as a great late season acquisition for the Niners.
04:56It could be that his rookie season is kind of ruined
04:59because he's coming back to an established group
05:01that's got something grooving.
05:02Yeah.
05:03We'll see.
05:03You know, Christian Kirk misses three more games
05:06and then he might get added into this.
05:07And there's no doubt that it is a position
05:10where the Niners have in the past
05:12and no doubt will add again
05:14if they're having a good season come November 10th.
05:18I had one of those days again, fellas,
05:20where you say something and it doesn't hit with the fans,
05:22but you like it.
05:24Just today?
05:25They're like, oh yeah, good, that was great.
05:27So, I said the byproduct,
05:29because I was in the camp,
05:30the Rams, the Rams.
05:32And the way that they went up there
05:34and sent a message, I believe,
05:35to the league and Rams,
05:36the dessert of that via the schedule
05:39is you get the Dolphins.
05:41Yeah.
05:41Who are just,
05:42I really believe we're having fun.
05:44Like, they have no chance, Will.
05:47Like, the 13 and a half feels like three,
05:49but I just,
05:50they got a pretty damn good shot to go 2-0.
05:53Well, and I think that if you look at the Dolphins,
05:56they have a pretty damn good shot of going 0-17.
06:00And it was, Fitzmagic said that.
06:02Oh, yeah.
06:03He said that on the broadcast.
06:04And if you look at it,
06:06he's not,
06:06I don't think he's that out of bounds.
06:08And I was doing this earlier,
06:09looking at some of the reasons.
06:11And Mark and I yesterday
06:12were talking about their roster.
06:13And they're all just babies.
06:14It's like a,
06:15it's like an NCAA team of fifth-year seniors,
06:18but they have $180 million of dead cap.
06:23Their total salary cap is about $110.
06:26Their dead cap dwarfs their actual cap.
06:29That is horrible.
06:31Tyreek to et cetera.
06:32Yeah, it is the youngest roster in the entire NFL
06:36from top to bottom with an average age.
06:38This is the whole roster.
06:40Their average age is 25.
06:42So this is the most experienced roster.
06:46I know the Niners actually aren't technically
06:48the oldest roster in football.
06:50I think that's Washington,
06:51but it's definitely the oldest offense.
06:52It's the most experienced roster
06:55going against the least experienced roster
06:58in football this weekend.
07:00And they've been bad for a while.
07:02We're having fun with downtrodden franchises
07:05where the Kings, the Mariners,
07:07like, man, we got it good here.
07:09Even the Wizards, like, if you look at...
07:11Didn't even bring them up.
07:12Well, in the NBA, like,
07:13there's a certain path toward getting good again
07:16where you just tank,
07:17and Washington did it for three years, right, Stiney?
07:20And now they're ready to maybe start to win.
07:23And in football, you can be bad,
07:25but you need to be bad, really bad,
07:27in the right year where you get the quarterback
07:30that can turn it around.
07:31Is it Arch Manning?
07:32We don't fully know.
07:33That's a great...
07:34You would think, yeah, but I hear you.
07:35But, I mean, knowing the Mannings like we do,
07:37they might pull out,
07:38oh, no, we're not going with Miami.
07:40They might go full Elway on that.
07:43When do you think...
07:44You know, we came out today
07:46talking about the Dolphins,
07:47and I feel like they're about as harmless of franchises
07:50as there is.
07:51It's about as big a non-rivalry with the Niners.
07:54They're just a nondescript team.
07:57When do you think the last playoff game they won was?
07:59I know the answer, so I'll be quiet.
08:01Oh, gosh, I know that they're one of the teams.
08:03It's been the longest.
08:05Let's see.
08:06Last time they went to a loss to Kansas City.
08:09I feel like they went to the playoffs
08:11four or five years ago.
08:13Lost to Kansas City.
08:14When's the last time they won a playoff game?
08:17What are the fans?
08:19Like, was it Fitzmagic?
08:232000.
08:24Oh, then no, that's pre-Fitzmagic.
08:262000.
08:27God, 26 years.
08:29Think about that.
08:30Jeez.
08:31That's just, wow.
08:32And here's a game I don't remember.
08:33They won their opening.
08:36That's the year they won.
08:36Then they lost to the Raiders 27-0.
08:40That was in Oakland.
08:42I don't remember that game.
08:43When Oakland was still popping.
08:44Yeah, it was the Oakland Raiders at that point.
08:48Yeah, I'm just looking at it here.
08:49Jay Fiedler was your quarterback.
08:51Fiedler.
08:52And that might have been the year that the Raiders then lost to the Baltimore Ravens.
08:58Fair Goose fell on your boy.
08:59Yes.
08:59I mean, because that was one of those ones where it's like, the Raiders?
09:02Okay, sure.
09:03Going to do it.
09:04Yeah.
09:04And then a couple years later, they did actually get to the bowl, but their coach was, you
09:08know, with the playbook on the other side.
09:09This is why you cradle a good quarterback when you get one.
09:12When's the last time the Dolphins had a good quarterback?
09:14We just, man.
09:15Like, there are people out there renting cars in Miami that weren't born the last time
09:20they won a playoff game.
09:21But I'll say this.
09:22Tua was really disappointing, but I think for a night or a week or a month or half a season,
09:28people thought Tua was a dude.
09:29Yeah, they were running around out there with Waddle and Hill, and he was throwing it
09:35up.
09:36And yeah, they went to the playoffs.
09:37They went to the playoffs one time.
09:39The last time they had a good quarterback, and I know this because I looked this up for
09:42a higher or lower episode.
09:44So the year before Fiedler wins a playoff game, it was Dan Marino's last game.
09:49Oh my God.
09:49And they played the Jaguars, and they lost 62-7.
09:54Dan Marino's last game as a Dolphin.
09:57I would have never allowed.
09:5762-7.
09:59So he was the last good quarterback, like actual good quarterback that they had.
10:04Well, as I would call him, Tannehill.
10:06Tannehill, he wasn't terrible, but I wouldn't call him good.
10:09Yeah.
10:09No, I'm with you.
10:10I mean, Tannehill, he had a good little run.
10:11Average.
10:12Right.
10:12So the last game, this is, last game the Dolphins won in the playoffs, they beat the
10:18Indianapolis Colts in overtime.
10:20It was a wild card game.
10:22Look at this.
10:23So Peyton Manning was the Colts quarterback.
10:29Jay Fiedler, 19 for 34, 185 yards.
10:35Oh my God.
10:36One touchdown, three picks.
10:38That's terrible.
10:39They still beat.
10:40But here it is.
10:41Uh-oh.
10:42I don't remember this guy's name at all.
10:46Rushing attempts.
10:47Lamar Smith.
10:49Sure.
10:49No answer.
10:5040.
10:52Rushing yards.
10:54209.
10:55209 yards on 40 carries.
10:57In a playoff game.
10:58Yeah.
10:58I don't remember anything like that.
11:00He also had a couple catches.
11:02That's some Garoppolo stuff right there.
11:04Seriously.
11:05Yeah.
11:06I said Mercury Morris.
11:07The Morris couldn't do it.
11:0873 and 9.
11:09I mean, now we're going back to Zomka and Jim Kick and Full House Backfield and the whole
11:14deal.
11:15But I like what you said, Stiney, about maybe out of the least threatening of all the rivals,
11:21it's hard to find another one that would be less threatening.
11:24Because even like Jacksonville, they've kind of stuck it to you a couple times.
11:28And the Panthers are an NFC team, so they're more rival-ish than the Dolphins.
11:34There's something about the whole franchise, though.
11:36They just kind of trot out there wearing aqua.
11:38Like, there's just nothing.
11:39You know what I mean?
11:40But there was a Super Bowl.
11:40That's why they were so popular back in the 70s.
11:44It's part of it.
11:44It's part of it.
11:45But I just think there's no sort of like swashbuckler intimidation that's ever been associated.
11:54I'm not saying it's a bad franchise.
11:55They used to be really, really good.
11:57The Marks brothers with Moreno.
11:59Yeah.
11:59But like, there's not, they just don't feel threatening.
12:04Rivalry, hell no.
12:05Yeah.
12:05Like, there's no other, and are there fans?
12:09That's a great question.
12:11That's a story franchise, right?
12:11I got them Niners, Dallas, Dallas, Dolphins.
12:14Darius Rucker, the Dolphins made me cry.
12:17Like, I mean, I don't know how it was here growing up, but I remember a lot of kids in
12:23the 70s with Miami Dolphins stuff.
12:25Like, their colors were cool.
12:27Their uniforms were totally cool.
12:30They won.
12:31They were really exciting.
12:32My sister did it for a day.
12:34She did.
12:35What do you mean?
12:36When the Niners played the Dolphins in the Super Bowl.
12:38Stanford.
12:39She was 13 years old, and you know how 13-year-old girls are.
12:42They hate their parents and their family no matter what the hell's going on.
12:46Nine more years.
12:46So she went to the store and bought Aqua and Orange streamers and built a whole outfit and
12:55wore like a cheerleading Miami Dolphins costume to the Super Bowl party that year just to piss
13:01everybody off, and then the Niners beat it by 22.
13:05Roger Cree.
13:06Eat that, Jen.
13:08That's your daughter, right?
13:10What's that?
13:10That's your daughter?
13:11That's my sister.
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13:22That's a crazy flashback to even think about because that year, and I just looked at it because
13:28I don't have all this committed to memory, but 86, uh, yeah, they were 14 and two, right?
13:33They scored more than 500 points.
13:35They had a point differential of like plus 215.
13:38They were scary.
13:39Is that the best game I've ever seen against the San Diego Chargers?
13:44Kellen Winslow had to be carried off at the Orange Bowl.
13:46That was earlier.
13:47That was earlier.
13:48That was struck, right?
13:49That was before the Niners beat the Dolphins in the Super Bowl.
13:52Right.
13:52I think it was a couple years prior, but I agree with you.
13:54Like, you know, Kellen Winslow had like 14 catches and a blocked field goal and, you
13:59know, he was cramping and he had to be carried off.
14:01But yeah.
14:01Can you look up who was favored in that Super Bowl?
14:04Niners, Dolphins?
14:05Absolutely.
14:0586?
14:06Yeah.
14:07I feel like it.
14:08Dan's only visit.
14:09If the Niners were favored, it was only by a smidge.
14:13I can't remember, but I remember being scared of the Dolphins that year.
14:18And you should have.
14:19Yeah.
14:19They scored 513 on the year in 16 games.
14:23Niners were favored by a field goal.
14:25Yeah.
14:26Hey.
14:26Over under 53 and a hook.
14:28And your final?
14:3054.
14:3138-16.
14:33That's pretty internet, too.
14:33Even back then, how do they do it?
14:36How do they do it?
14:37They just know.
14:38Yep.
14:39It's what they do.
14:39Can I throw y'all curveball?
14:40Hmm?
14:40Because Stani and I, we didn't even fight.
14:42We had a...
14:43You didn't fight today?
14:44You guys want to go longer?
14:45We've been having fun.
14:46A provocative baseball discussion.
14:48Well.
14:49I'm Mr. 90 wins, right?
14:51You know what I thought about this team on paper?
14:53Super L.
14:54I get it.
14:55And I'm a big Devers guy.
14:57No, you're not.
14:58Yeah.
14:58Stani, stop.
14:59When I was running the streets naked when the trade was made, he has been phenomenal.
15:05And he's a trooper.
15:07Devers were playing hurt when we found out.
15:09And he's done for the season.
15:10But I'm shocked my partner thinks you can't move him.
15:14Because to me, I think the Giants might truly need to rebuild.
15:18And it will start moving a guy that, if you are down on him, other teams, his stock is way
15:23back up.
15:24He has just been menacing.
15:25But my question to you guys is, what's it all mean if a guy's going to put up numbers, but
15:30yet the team is not translating to the team?
15:33So why wouldn't you use your big chip, this attractive now, I believe, Halle Berry, more after he got hot,
15:40and hit the reset button or try to go get some things that you need?
15:43Because I think you need a surplus of items as opposed to you guys telling me the guru method, well,
15:49Buster can go get a bullpen and get a couple pitchers and we'll run it back.
15:52No, I get where you're, I very much get where you're coming from.
15:55He's like, you don't trade your best player, but I'm like, what's it mean?
15:58I don't think he's tradable.
15:59I still don't think he's tradable.
16:01Because of the bread, huh?
16:02And the lockout.
16:03We're going in an offseason where nobody's acquiring.
16:06I hate that, but that's.
16:07Yeah, nobody's acquiring a seven-year expensive contract at this time.
16:11And give him your theory about why now for surgery.
16:14Because I was saying, if the guy's been playing hurt all year and now he's hit 11 home runs in
16:1819 games, like, oh, now you're hurt?
16:21And then he dropped it yesterday.
16:22I was like, oh.
16:23I'd say it's more than a theory.
16:24I'm pretty sure.
16:25I missed it.
16:26Well, so the rehab for this is about three months.
16:29When the lockout happens on December 1st, you're not allowed to work with the team anymore.
16:33You can't be in the facility.
16:35You can't be around the team if you're on the 40-man roster.
16:38So this allows the Giants to work with him through his rehab up until it's almost within about a week
16:45or two of being complete.
16:47And then the lockout will happen and he can go on his way as a healthy player and get himself
16:52ready for a spring training that's not going to happen.
16:54It's almost like he sounds like the franchise player they're taking care of.
16:58I mean, if they know they are, quote, unquote, stuck with him, they might as well use him and he
17:05can play.
17:06I mean, if Bryce and him are all comfortable with sharing the two positions, it's not out of the realm
17:12of possibility that it all works out.
17:14But if he hit like this early, again, what would they be?
17:18I can't front.
17:19And Devers wasn't hitting like this early, Dibs, when they were falling out of the race.
17:24None of them were, though.
17:25Like, even Jung-Hoo Lee didn't catch fire until, like, May.
17:28And Patrick Bailey got the blade.
17:29Right.
17:30Giants win today, two in a row.
17:32So Jesse Jackson, keep hope alive.
17:34Wake me up before a grand new wheel.
17:36I mean, if they sweep the Dodgers, we could circle back on Monday and it could be a six in
17:45a row must win for the goo in order to win the last bastion of a bet against Matt Steinmetz.
17:52No, I'm with Willard and Grandy.
17:53No, but six in a row.
17:55Yeah.
17:55No, the side bet you threw it about.
17:58There's two different bats.
17:58Oh, you guys are done.
17:59Like, touch 500?
18:00No.
18:01Oh, yeah.
18:02We put that to bed like three weeks ago.
18:05This is the, will the Giants win six in a row at any point?
18:10That's why he's so invested.
18:11They've had a four.
18:13I don't think that they've had a five.
18:14They have not.
18:15But they're sitting right now on two.
18:17They had a four?
18:18I think so.
18:19They had a four?
18:20They did.
18:20Okay.
18:21How many?
18:21I'll believe you.
18:22Four?
18:23I thought it only had a three.
18:24So they play the Dodgers this weekend?
18:26Yep.
18:26Where at?
18:27Here?
18:28It doesn't matter.
18:29I think it's LA.
18:30Willard, I think you actually are correct.
18:32Sandlot.
18:32I think it is just a three.
18:34Yeah, I don't remember a four.
18:35Remember, they didn't sweep anybody until like a week and a half ago.
18:38That's true.
18:39Well, they swept the Braves twice.
18:40Yeah, but it wasn't a winning streak because there was 80 days in between the second and third win there.
18:46Oh, man.
18:47Whatever it was.
18:48They're the most – I've arrived now since we've – you know, they're dead and gone, and we've all gotten
18:53over it.
18:54I now am amused by the ninth inning when the Giants play.
18:58It's hilarious.
18:59It's like the game's just starting.
19:00It doesn't matter how many runs you're up by.
19:02You're like, watch this, everybody.
19:04Hold my beer.
19:05And here comes the bullpen, and they'll call whoever the hell – and now they're calling people I've never even
19:10heard of.
19:11And Tony has the same expression or whatever the hell he's –
19:14It's like – he knows, like, God.
19:17People are just coming in, and it's like – it feels like people are on second and third before the
19:21inning even starts.
19:22And I know the other team's coming back.
19:24I knew in the ninth inning, 4-3, runner in second, two outs.
19:29I'm like, watch this.
19:30Rocket shot right field base hit.
19:32That's pretty good.
19:33It's hysterical, man.
19:34And then your boy Gilbert hits one about 4-10 in the 10th.
19:37I like him, man.
19:39And they almost gave that one up, too, in the bottom of the 10th.
19:43Yep.
19:43Oh, my God.
19:44Kool-Aid and Kisner was your battery in the 10th.
19:47Oh, man.
19:49I want to throw this out quickly because you guys did a great thing about documentaries.
19:54Has there been the definitive Tiger Woods documentary?
19:58Stoney thinks there has.
19:59I didn't like it.
20:00It was one-sided.
20:01I'm talking, like, the definitive, like, the whole thing.
20:04Like, life as a kid, when dad is getting busy.
20:07Not in the Berger's in the bathroom, but in the trailer.
20:11That's precisely what the documentary was about.
20:13Guru didn't like it because Tiger didn't authorize it, and he's not in it.
20:17Gotcha.
20:17Okay.
20:17But, oh, there is a banger.
20:21Sorry.
20:21No.
20:22That actually is intended.
20:24No, it really wasn't.
20:26It came out, and I went, ah, damn it.
20:28Drake had a couple bangers last night.
20:29Yeah, it was, it went very in-depth into the stuff that Earl was doing while Tiger was
20:36a little kid.
20:36That's just not fair, Guru, huh?
20:38No, and look what happened to Tiger.
20:40He followed that.
20:41You know what I mean?
20:42Remember the, do you watch that doc?
20:43Yeah.
20:44You remember when Earl?
20:45I was mad.
20:45I was mad.
20:46Obviously, Earl's passed away as they're making this doc, but remember his best friend?
20:51Oh, it was the worst.
20:52Who was Earl's partner in all of these hijinks, and he breaks down during the interview, and
20:57he starts bawling, and he just looks at the camera and goes, sorry, champ.
21:02It was a moment.
21:03So you haven't seen that one, huh?
21:05Maybe I have, but I guess I'm-
21:07Now you would remember.
21:08You've got to see it.
21:08And I'm also interested in the aftermath of it, which, you know, all the things that go
21:13on after with, you know, hey, it's Tiger, you know, and you can do me a favor and all
21:18the rest of that.
21:18And so I guess if it was, you know, something that was not authorized by Tiger, it wouldn't
21:24happen.
21:25The other one, which is a local one, and maybe it's more of an oral history, Stiney, and
21:30I would love for somebody to put this together.
21:32I would love the oral history of how we stole the Warriors from, whatchamacallit, across the
21:39street.
21:40Wow.
21:40Because there was a sequence of things that happened internally.
21:43Trades are hard.
21:44Externally, I would love to get the interviews on every single person involved.
21:50Ah, ah.
21:51We had an obligation with the Giants.
21:52Ah, ah.
21:53So you did listen.
21:54I asked Will, Willard, I asked what documentary, any subject matter, would you want to see?
22:00And Stiney, yours was, not Rick James.
22:03Leon Spinks was one of them.
22:04I don't know why.
22:05I'm telling you about one that hasn't been made.
22:06Yeah.
22:07Oh, wow.
22:09Mine was MC Hammer.
22:11The credit he does not get.
22:13I like that.
22:14Hammer was a thing.
22:15I want that.
22:15Have they done one on your...
22:18Hammer was rich.
22:19He gets no credit.
22:20I just want to...
22:20I want to see the scene about where he decides that this is what we're doing with our pants.
22:24That's the scene that I want to see.
22:26Hammer.
22:27I am.
22:28The caddy.
22:29They put me in the mix.
22:30When you dance like that, you need room.
22:33I talk to do commercials.
22:33He cried.
22:34So much.
22:34Remember when he was on the Falcon sideline for a minute?
22:37Oh, that's right.
22:38He got too legit to quit.
22:39I was like, whoa, he just took over the Falcons.
22:42He went from the Oakland A's to the Falcons.
22:45I'm like, this is the most random thing I've ever seen.
22:47Have they done one on Seattle and the Grunge?
22:51A definitive how it all started thing?
22:55Probably.
22:55I mean, certainly on the Kurt Cobain end of it, I think they have.
22:58Right, but so many like the Soundgarden and the Pearl Jam.
23:01I know that those are bands that you love.
23:02I just was going to ask you if you've seen, if they've done one.
23:06Maybe Moe Lay can weigh in.
23:08There was definitely one on Kurt Cobain, and I want to say Courtney Hole had something to do with it.
23:15Courtney Love, close enough.
23:16I call it Courtney Hole because that was her band.
23:18Her band was closer.
23:19That's now a very popular game, late night on ESPN.
23:22It is?
23:23Cornhole.
23:23Go ahead.
23:25Apparently there's a Seattle grunge documentary called Hype, and it is available to stream on Amazon Prime Video.
23:32Wow.
23:33Wow.
23:33You should have a documentary club.
23:35Like Oprah has a book club.
23:36Oh, wow.
23:37I would love it.
23:37I like it.
23:38That would take 17 years for us to all get together four times, but I'm in.
23:42We could give everybody a few weeks to watch one.
23:44That's what book clubs are.
23:46You have a month, and all the ladies get together, and like half of them never read it, and they
23:49all drink wine.
23:51I'm going to turn in my black card.
23:53I didn't know there was a black Woodstock or a version of Woodstock.
23:56I didn't either.
23:56I'd go like, damn.
23:57I learned a lot today from you guys.
23:59You know, back in the day.
24:01What times come to sell?
24:033.15.
24:04All right.
24:053.15, and then dibs.
24:07Tell Steiney who's at 4.15.
24:09I mean, I should say this before you leave because this is going to piss you off.
24:13No.
24:13Okay.
24:15Joe Thomas.
24:17Wow.
24:17Joe Thomas.
24:18In your face.
24:19We got Joe Thomas.
24:20How'd you get him, Grandy?
24:21I went through his agent.
24:23No, you didn't.
24:24He and I have grown close.
24:25Stop it.
24:26If you went through Schaefer, he's done.
24:28I'm about to give you a Drew Gilbert.
24:29I'm offended that you asked Grandy how he got him.
24:33He did have.
24:34He went through Grandy.
24:34You know what?
24:35Is he pushing those stakes again?
24:37Wagyu.
24:37Oh, yeah.
24:39Scoreboard.
24:39Joe Thomas.
24:404.15.
24:41We got him because I texted him.
24:43That's how we got him.
24:44Is he a friend of Ephraim?
24:45No.
24:46See, we got him.
24:47The Ephraim guy helps really a lot.
24:48He's grown close.
24:49He's a friend of mine.
24:51I also forgot to mention tomorrow, 3.15, Chris Finch.
24:55Now, that'll do it for me on 95.7.
25:00And Bob Myers together at the same time.
25:03Willard's bugging me.
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