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Willard and Dibs join Steiny and Guru on a Wednesday edition of the Crossover. The guys discuss expectations for the 49ers this season, react to a strange Mike Dunleavy press conference, and more.
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00:00This is James Wiseman.
00:01Now back to Stiney and Guru.
00:04All right, it's crossover time brought to you by Bay Alarm Rest Easy.
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00:09Let's welcome in Willard and Dibs.
00:11It is the crossover.
00:12What's up, guys?
00:13What's going on, guys?
00:14Boys.
00:15Yeah, doing great.
00:16Doing great on a Wednesday, yeah.
00:19I'm different.
00:20I obviously wasn't here yesterday.
00:22We know that.
00:23And I do this to Stiney, and I mean when I ask the question, I want the answer.
00:27Can you two remember back to yesterday, this time, and what you discussed as I was out?
00:33On the crossover.
00:35Yes, sir.
00:35Yesterday.
00:36No, I can't remember that.
00:40All right, it ain't just Stiney.
00:42I just asked.
00:43Probably Bosa.
00:45Yeah, that's where we started.
00:46That's the news, bro.
00:47All right, gotcha.
00:47I mean, it was a Niners day.
00:50Yeah.
00:51Then I told Stiney after the summit and the breaking news, you said the cow.
00:56Now, I will, hey, week one, I'll worry then.
01:00That taught me, hey.
01:01I'm never going to do that again.
01:04We took one of the most high-profile hours of our entire year and acted.
01:11I thought he was out for the year of eight games.
01:13Acted like a bunch of people who didn't know if they were going to make a win.
01:16Right.
01:17Like, it just, yeah, we're not doing that again.
01:20All right.
01:21I told Stiney.
01:21The game is still over four weeks away, so it's not time to worry yet.
01:29Panja's worried.
01:31He said he was a little bit worried.
01:32Well, we got to get off this because you're done with it.
01:35No, I'm done with it.
01:35Done with it.
01:36Yeah.
01:37So, good.
01:37Let's talk about all the healthy people.
01:39Don't.
01:39I'm surprised you even brought it up, Gu.
01:41No, he done-leaved it.
01:43He said he's done.
01:44Willard said he's done with it.
01:46My man.
01:46He said, okay.
01:48You're off to a good start.
01:49I had a couple of singers out in the green room, too, post-meeting.
01:53I'm leaving.
01:54I got to.
01:54I mean, you get your boy to sit quietly for an hour and seven minutes.
01:57It kind of felt like the show.
01:58I just, I did a rant yesterday off the top of the show.
02:01Oh, that's what he's referring to.
02:02Yeah.
02:03I can't, I'm like, I'm not here for a month of, oh, what if we're hurt?
02:09I just, like, I-
02:10I have some of that in me.
02:12And I get it.
02:13I told everyone I get where it came from, but is this what we're doing this year?
02:18Oh, no.
02:19Everyone's going to get hurt the whole time if they are hurt.
02:21And then every time somebody has a hangnail, oh, here we go again.
02:26I don't know.
02:26Stani, ask them, if you don't mind, the question you asked me about the two years for the three teams.
02:33What was it again?
02:35Who has a brighter-
02:37Earlier today.
02:38Two years after this upcoming season.
02:40Yeah, like, the next two years, which Bay Area team's going to-
02:44Outside the Sharks.
02:45So the Giants-
02:46You know, they're optimistic about, you think they could win and be successful.
02:50I said Niners.
02:51This Giants year doesn't count?
02:52Like, this absolute Hindenburg of a season?
02:56So, the Niners season this year, Warriors season this year, Giants next year.
03:01Okay, so the next two seasons, not including this debacle.
03:05Correct.
03:05I think Niners.
03:07He didn't like it.
03:07I think that's the safe play.
03:09I mean, honestly, I would love to take the Warriors, but it feels to me like more emotion than, you
03:16know, actual logical, because I really want one more.
03:19It's been so great, but honestly, that doesn't make a lot of sense, and the Giants call me O-yee
03:25of little faith.
03:26So I think I would go with the Niners.
03:28I think it's no doubt the 49ers.
03:30I don't know.
03:31I would love to hear someone try to make the case of one of the other two teams.
03:37Well, I'll make it.
03:39Like, I think this could be the last year for the Niners with this group, with their older players, and
03:45then they'll be at a point where they've, you know, they're going to have to figure out what they're going
03:51to do.
03:51And at least the Golden State Warriors have a finite point when they could theoretically change the makeup of this
03:59team, which is next offseason.
04:01And so what I said was, I think there's an outside chance that next offseason, right at this point, we'll
04:07feel more optimistic about the Warriors than the Niners.
04:10Ah.
04:12Because it'll be after the Warriors offseason.
04:14So they got money and books.
04:16Like, I see the scenario you're talking about.
04:18I would call it an unlikely one.
04:20I also don't buy the 49ers, like, this window is closing thing.
04:27There's going to be some players that start to age out soon, but it's far from all of them, and
04:33they've got a quarterback in his mid-20s.
04:35So those are, it is their job to continue to replace those players.
04:41Yeah.
04:42And by no stretch is it the entire team.
04:45Like, they started their reboot on that last year.
04:48Especially defense.
04:49They're young on defense.
04:51They're old on offense.
04:52But they're young.
04:5411th youngest defense in the NFL.
04:55Well, I'm also allowing for the fact that the 49ers could have a bumpy year.
05:00And so maybe they don't make the playoffs this year.
05:04Then there's some attrition.
05:06And now we've got to rebuild a little bit with some of our important skill position guys of the last,
05:13you know, three to five years.
05:15I think they're in that spot no matter what.
05:17These are all plausible.
05:18Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
05:18Even if they go to the NFC Championship game, well, you get to next year, you still probably need to
05:23address that natural attrition of your offense.
05:26As Mark said, your offense is older.
05:29Your defense is younger.
05:30And if they are good, if these young players are actually good and they fit with Raheem Morris, well, this
05:36year could be a little bit different than what we expected from last year.
05:39How so?
05:40If the defense is better.
05:41Right.
05:42And last year, and I did a full deep dive on how often they blitz, how many picks, all the
05:47rest of it.
05:48Last year's defense was built around, you know, bend but don't break.
05:51And they didn't, they wound up, they wound up mid-pack in yards allowed and in points allowed and they
05:57went 12 and five.
05:58Well, Raheem Morris is a little bit of a different animal when it comes to defense.
06:02He wants to be more aggressive.
06:03And we've heard the secondary guys say, yeah, we want that.
06:06We want to play more man.
06:08So if you actually have good defenders who match up with Raheem Morris' skill set in his scheme, I think
06:14this defense has a great chance to be better than last year's.
06:17That's fair.
06:18I think your scenarios are plausible.
06:21I just don't think they're the most likely ones.
06:23All right.
06:24Like, if I had to bet on a team being viable and having the players to try to be a
06:30playoff team over the next calendar year plus, the 49ers, to me, is the most likely.
06:37Yeah.
06:37I mean, I could be wrong.
06:40Yeah.
06:40No.
06:42Stiney, I borrowed this word from him.
06:44And the kids are using it weird, but I'm in the doctor's office reading the Niner secondary.
06:49I call Sala Gandhi.
06:51Like, everybody loves Robert Sala.
06:53And I saw the little shots.
06:55But where did that come?
06:56Like, it wasn't Warner or Bosa, but I couldn't believe.
07:00Like, let me read that again.
07:02I didn't like that.
07:03Stiney was kind of not speaking for him.
07:05But he was like, you know, when you leave good, people take shots at you.
07:08I thought that was odd.
07:10It's a little odd, but I was thinking about having an almost four-year-old, I think about things in
07:15terms of toddlers.
07:16And so, you know, you're split up with your wife.
07:18And when your daughter comes to your house and she goes swimming and you put her in a life jacket
07:23and water wings, even though she's seven.
07:25I'm all right.
07:25And then she goes to mom's house and it's like, mom's just going to let you swim.
07:28I think the secondary felt like they were in water wings and a life jacket because you didn't blitz.
07:34You couldn't rush the passer.
07:3520 sacks in 17 games.
07:37And so, I think the scheme was, look, don't get beat.
07:40Don't get beat over the top.
07:42Rally up and tackle.
07:43We'll see if we can squeeze them down in the red zone.
07:45And it actually worked.
07:46But if you're a defensive player and you want to be on that island, you want to be that guy,
07:50I'm sure that was frustrating.
07:52I mean, it's not like...
07:53Outside of Lenore, do you have those guys?
07:55Yeah, the secondary didn't.
07:56I love green, but damn.
07:57I just, I try to put my mind, because it surprised me for a second, too, what you're talking about.
08:02But then put yourself in the mind of a defensive back for the 49ers last year.
08:08You don't rush the passer.
08:09So, you're done almost.
08:10Ever.
08:11Yeah.
08:11And then it's like, boy, these safeties aren't doing very well.
08:14Well, hell, yeah.
08:16What do you want me to do?
08:17They're just chase CeeDee Lamb around all day and stay with him.
08:22And then you're going to rip me when they make a completion.
08:25So, I bet they, I bet the defensive backs didn't like last year at all.
08:29Whether that's on Salah or not, you know, now they're just excited because of what's in front of them.
08:34Whatever.
08:35That's probably a good thing.
08:37How are we feeling about Russell Westbrook retiring?
08:40Great.
08:41Thank goodness he's gone.
08:43He's not a fan.
08:43I can't stand watching him play.
08:45I can't stand watching him play.
08:47If market is Mount Rushmore of unlikable players since, I guess it would be like 2008, it's CP3, it's Westbrook,
08:55it's Dylan the villain, and you're going to have to pick your own fourth.
08:58Can I do it for him, Ohtani?
09:01No, I don't have any.
09:02NBA players is kind of the game.
09:04Players in general.
09:05Other than the fact that he gambles on sports and got somebody thrown into jail, I don't have any, I
09:12got no issue with Shohei Ohtani.
09:13He's really good.
09:15Yeah, Westbrook, I just don't, I don't enjoy watching him play.
09:18There was a semi-indirect, this wasn't personal, but like this goes way back to when I was working down
09:28in L.A.
09:29He visited another show at our station, was a complete jerk to everybody.
09:36I don't think he's a very aware basketball player.
09:40I think he's super, super talented, but just not the brand of basketball.
09:46I enjoy watching.
09:47He screams at fans, seemingly half the games when he's leaving.
09:51Just not into him.
09:52Yeah.
09:52Not into him.
09:53I stood up for him, Willard, 64 games for the Kings, and I thought he was being a mentor.
09:57Or gives you all that and some of what's left, sometimes too much.
10:01But in a basketball league where you know if people like you, Will, they'll keep you around.
10:07And I'm starting to think that's where Russell failed.
10:10Is people, the relationships among his teammates, coaches, it must have not been to where it should have been at.
10:17Because a guy that still can give you something, but man, nobody wanted to take a flyer on him.
10:23Even if you couldn't give away, Russ, we can't give you but five minutes.
10:27I'm like, man, you might have been.
10:29Two teams apparently had offers on the table, but he didn't want them.
10:33That's the report.
10:35I feel a little better.
10:36The Kings offered and the Wizards offered.
10:39And Russ said, I'm good.
10:43That's because he knew he wasn't going to play for the Wizards.
10:45Well, and how much did he make?
10:46Like, do you have that up?
10:47He probably made 300 mil in his career to where he doesn't.
10:50Oh, no, that.
10:51He doesn't need to scratch it out.
10:52But, and ultimately, you know, as you get older, your skills diminish.
10:56And if you can't be on a team that has a chance to win, and it sounds like the teams
11:00you're just mentioning are not ready to win, Mark.
11:04350 million.
11:05Well, he'll be fine.
11:06But he is, in his prime, is something I'll never forget on a basketball court.
11:11Also, once upon a time, earlier in their careers, scoffed at the idea of Steph Curry being MVP-worthy.
11:17I remember him and Duran up there.
11:19Not into him.
11:20Not into him at all.
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11:31First ballot?
11:32Yes.
11:34Well, it's NBA.
11:35You're getting ahead of that.
11:36It's the Basketball Hall of Fame.
11:37I got you.
11:38And that's where...
11:39Everybody gets in.
11:40Exactly.
11:40And the basketball class is usually, I think, 8 to 12 people every year, right?
11:45Yeah, basically.
11:47No, he's definitely a Hall of Famer.
11:49He's in.
11:50But the real guy that we got to keep an eye on, the old guy, is Ben Simmons.
11:58Ben Simmons is a guy.
12:00They say he's healthy.
12:01He's apparently working out with the Australian national team.
12:05And according to a report, there's one Western Conference team that's already invited him to training camp.
12:12Is it us?
12:13I don't know.
12:13Okay.
12:14I don't know.
12:14Is it us?
12:16Somebody asked Mike Dunleavy that yesterday on his Zoom that he should not have held.
12:20Dude.
12:21Like, speak on that.
12:22I thought that was odd.
12:24Yes.
12:24What an...
12:25Ah.
12:26Those were some odd quotes.
12:28And I don't have, like...
12:30It's a weird dynamic.
12:32I don't have a specific issue that he said any of them.
12:35But I didn't think they necessarily aligned with all of the other stuff that they've been saying.
12:41So, that's my takeaway.
12:43I also...
12:44That's not just me.
12:45They called it the post-free agency media availability.
12:50Did he have to do that?
12:52Did they actually have a free agency?
12:54Wow.
12:55Very fair question.
12:56Wow.
12:56Oh, no.
12:58I mean...
12:58It felt a little bit like...
12:59That's pretty good.
13:00Oh, the Warriors trying to force some sort of a narrative out there?
13:03And I...
13:04It was just like...
13:05Will, you don't normally...
13:06Wow.
13:07Like, how did you do that?
13:08I can't say that I didn't think that also.
13:11I mean, however...
13:13There is usually...
13:15Talk before free agency.
13:17Yeah.
13:17And if you say off-season rather than free agency, it makes a little more sense.
13:22Because then you talk about Porzingis re-signing and Melton.
13:25Um, but, with all that having been said, I thought, huh, just, oh, things kind of interesting.
13:33And, you know, the Steph part of it, I feel like they need to...
13:40They're wanting to make it clear that it's his decision.
13:44Mm-hmm.
13:44His decision.
13:46Buy it?
13:47It's his decision.
13:48Buy it?
13:49I don't know.
13:50Question mark?
13:51I mean, yes.
13:53Yes.
13:53It's factual.
13:54It's his decision.
13:55Okay.
13:56He could leave if he wants, or he could sign an extension if he wants.
13:59Um, maybe they see something coming.
14:02I don't know.
14:03I'm not going to go there yet.
14:05No, but I...
14:06Here's where I will go.
14:07I just think, if I'm a player on this team, I didn't love the press conference.
14:13Because you spent the entire off-season going, no, no, no.
14:16It's not the personnel.
14:17It's the turnovers.
14:18We love this team.
14:20We can play with this team.
14:22We can compete with this team.
14:24Facts.
14:24And then, you get to yesterday, and he's like, we called everybody.
14:28Cold calls.
14:29We called...
14:30Cold calls.
14:31And we offered...
14:32That hit me in the heart.
14:33And, quote, offered them all kinds of stuff.
14:36And I'm just like, ooh.
14:39Yeah.
14:39I thought you liked this team.
14:41Yeah, I'm with you.
14:41Those things didn't feel like they matched up.
14:45You're cold calling.
14:46And I did a little thing yesterday, Stiney, like, hey, Sharma, it's Mike Dunleavy.
14:50Can you hear me okay?
14:51Yeah.
14:51Great.
14:52We were just calling to see if you might be interested in, you know, Jimmy Butler, who
14:55can't play for 56 million.
14:57That's pretty good.
14:57Are you still there?
14:59All right.
14:59They hung up.
15:00All right.
15:00Chicago.
15:01Hey, Chicago.
15:01It's Mike Dunleavy.
15:02Can you hear me okay?
15:04Just cold calling teams.
15:06And offering everything except the chef, presumably.
15:09And it felt like they were trying to prove to everybody that they did work this offseason.
15:14And I don't think they needed to say that.
15:17I got you.
15:17Just be the Warriors.
15:19No doubt.
15:19Take the hits.
15:20Stand on it.
15:21Yep.
15:21This is what you did.
15:23But that cold calling got me.
15:25I mean, isn't every first trade offer of cold call?
15:30Stand on what you say.
15:31You always got to start with a cold call.
15:33Stand on what you do.
15:34Unless somebody left you a message, which apparently no one did.
15:37Right.
15:37But, Stani, the gist is, to me, with a sales background, when you don't hit quota, you don't
15:43tell the boss.
15:44And I tried it.
15:44I made 200 calls, right?
15:47That's what you don't use.
15:48Right.
15:48And I felt like Mike was kind of, yeah, we were inactive, but the phones, I was on them.
15:53Check my call log.
15:54You know, I made 107 calls on Wednesday.
15:57There you go.
15:57I'm out here hustling.
15:58And the Warriors know this, that, look, what they said was factual, but the pro sports
16:07fan does not want to hear we tried.
16:09They just don't.
16:10It just never goes well.
16:11It's not that it's not a fair thing to say, because it never goes well.
16:16It takes two to tango.
16:17But ask Farhan Zaidi if we tried lands well with people.
16:21It just doesn't.
16:22Fan base does not like when a, apparently a $15 billion organization says we tried.
16:32He's just not going to like it.
16:33Well, and I think Dunleavy even saying that is simply a result of him hearing people say,
16:40Dunleavy's got to do something.
16:42Dunleavy's got to do something.
16:43They can't just do this or that.
16:45And so I think that's kind of his MO as a player.
16:49Just a little bit of eh, a little bit of eh at somebody when he was being quoted.
16:54And it sounds like fans when he was a player, like, Dunleavy, you got to do something.
16:58You're the number three pick.
16:59Like, can you do something?
17:01And at the end of the game, he's got 15, 5, and 3, and they lose 117 to 99.
17:05It's like, Dunleavy, we took you third.
17:07You got to do something.
17:08Yeah.
17:09And it's like, I tried.
17:11He did, yeah.
17:12I'm assuming he did.
17:13Not his fault he was taking number three overall, which was an overdraft.
17:17But now he's in a spot where he's a little stuck because you're basically shepherding the end of the Steph
17:24Curry era
17:24while trying to pitch to fans that we want to get one more for him while also not sacrificing future
17:31assets.
17:32He's in an impossible spot.
17:34Anybody else get, I heard you guys play this.
17:37You get uncomfortable when they asked him about Steph and the runner's knee?
17:41To the point to where now I'm, like, petrified.
17:45That was not my favorite answer.
17:47Stani got fixated on the 43 games.
17:49It's, you know, I mean, he said, like, whoa.
17:52And he was like, we're hoping he plays more than half a season.
17:56You're hoping?
17:57You want me to play it?
17:58Sure.
18:02Yeah, that one right there.
18:03There you go.
18:03With the knee, other injuries, and then his age, it's definitely something we have to manage.
18:08My hope would be he plays more than, like, 43 games last year.
18:11I hope he plays more than that this year.
18:13We expect that.
18:14But you can't, you know, you take nothing for granted.
18:16So it's on the radar.
18:18It's something we have to be mindful of.
18:20And this thing's delicate.
18:22You know, it's delicate for him, but it's delicate for the rest of the guys on our team.
18:25Injuries move a lot of the needles in this league in terms of success and who wins and who loses.
18:30And you can't run from that.
18:31It is what it is.
18:32And we got to do our best to try and stay healthy, build depth, and hope for the best.
18:38Wow.
18:39And that's not a Mike issue.
18:41That's a Steph, like, no defender stopped him.
18:44Is this knee tendinitis the thing that would, man, if this rears his head again.
18:49I mean, it's, like, it's fair.
18:51I mean, he's being honest, but I know Warrior fans wanted to hear, yeah, the runner's knee is not an
18:56issue.
18:57So, fingers crossed, Steph has a fully healthy year.
19:00Like, that's what you wanted to hear.
19:02He made it sound like this is something they're going to have to navigate every day.
19:04From your experience, does it go away or it ain't?
19:07No, you're old.
19:08No, yeah.
19:09I mean, you can manage it with meds and rest and, you know, the RICE method, which is rest, ice,
19:15compression, elevation, R-I-C-E.
19:16But ultimately, if I offered you guys in the room right now, Steph's going to play 65 games.
19:23Yes.
19:23Take it.
19:24Absolutely.
19:25I mean, 65, that gets you to the threshold of awards.
19:28And 65 is the new 82.
19:30But he didn't say 65.
19:32He didn't.
19:32And he said, I hope he can play 43.
19:35Are you going to give a $130 million extension to a guy that you sound like that when you're talking
19:41about him?
19:41And that's what I think.
19:42That's, that's.
19:44Is it play here?
19:44Wow.
19:45But what did the Lakers sell for today?
19:4612 bill?
19:4712 bill evaluation.
19:48And so, and you said on our thread, like, the Warriors, then it must be 15.
19:51The Warriors are worth more.
19:52Well, if they're worth 15.
19:54The feds are after that got blown away.
19:56You can pay Steph 68 million, you know.
19:59That dude, hey.
20:00Wow.
20:00How come some sports sales, it's like you hear about them, and then they got to go through the hoops
20:08and the deal, and it takes eight months, and then it's got to be approved.
20:13And then this one, they're like, yeah, somebody called someone and sold the Lakers on Sunday.
20:18Well, they still got to go through the Board of Governors.
20:20Why?
20:21But we don't.
20:22Well, they agree to the deal, and then it's got to be approved.
20:25Right.
20:25But what happens to the, isn't the commissioner involved, and they've got to vet people and go through this, that,
20:30and the other?
20:31I think that's what this, that's what they start doing now, vetting.
20:35This sounded very final.
20:37And what's the down payment?
20:38Like, I mean, this thing goes to the desk, bro.
20:40And you know, this is the Kushner guy that bought into the Giants.
20:43I was just going to say that.
20:45And other teams, by the way.
20:46Right.
20:47Right.
20:47All right.
20:48I'm going to shove off today.
20:50Hey, you playing golf?
20:52Yeah, I'm playing golf.
20:53You know who you're playing with, right?
20:54Who?
20:55Mikey 2.0.
20:56Oh, he's the fourth.
20:57Yes, he is.
20:58All right.
20:59My brother.
20:59Why does dibs know who it was?
21:01Because it was more than you, dude.
21:03We lost the fourth, but we didn't know who it was.
21:04We have an app on WhatsApp, and it's an ongoing thread.
21:09And I saw my, well, in, you know, Preachasaurus Rex, who's not Stiney, but my brother,
21:16he comes in, and immediately, he's like, I'm in.
21:19And then he goes on to talk about, you know, he pontificates about the history of the country
21:24and this and that.
21:25It's like, take a playoff, Mike.
21:27And I know you're listening in the car right now, but you don't always have to be so haughty.
21:32H-A-U-G-H-T-Y.
21:34Every WhatsApp thread needs a leader.
21:36Yeah.
21:37Oh.
21:37He's not the leader.
21:38I'm just saying.
21:39Yeah.
21:39I need a chatty Cathy.
21:40Aaron Schleifer would be the chatty Cathy.
21:42Or Alex Diels.
21:43These names, man.
21:43I mean, they're all people.
21:44Yeah, I love it.
21:45They're all people.
21:45Speaking of names, just real quick before I go, it's bothering me, and I told them,
21:49no Shasky in the 95-70 game fantasy league this year.
21:53Mm-hmm.
21:54Now, he finished last.
21:55Does that have anything?
21:56He wasn't in the league last year.
21:57No, he was.
21:58Yes, he was.
21:59Remember, he had to draft.
21:59Oh, he was.
22:01Sorry.
22:02He was drafted, and if neither one of us got it, then it's on the deliverer.
22:08I got you.
22:08I'm sorry.
22:09Yeah.
22:09I'm sorry that's on you.
22:10He was here, but I get you.
22:12Neither one of us got it.
22:12I got it.
22:13Thank you, Andy.
22:14Yeah, but you're not in here.
22:15But he's astute.
22:17Yeah, but that's one out of three.
22:19You got to know your audience.
22:20Yeah.
22:21That's a comedian's job.
22:22No doubt.
22:22Are you familiar with draft and stash, like, in the NBA?
22:26His was draft and dash.
22:28That's a two.
22:29I'll leave right there.
22:30Do you workshop this in the bathroom?
22:32No, I don't.
22:32But I mean.
22:33I'm a little bit edgy because I could see Shasky in our company meeting today from across
22:37the room.
22:38Right.
22:38When our anniversary got mentioned, he's mouthing right at me, your list sucked.
22:43Your list sucked.
22:45And I'm looking and I'm like, do your list.
22:47That was love.
22:48Do your list.
22:49That was love.
22:50And you heard him.
22:50I know.
22:51I love that you were offended in the meeting.
22:53He did this on the air for about 12 minutes a couple weeks ago.
22:56What offended me is that you and he said something to each other and you started laughing.
23:01And I thought, oh, look at Willis.
23:02Willis's probably like, yeah, you're right.
23:04His list did suck.
23:05That was about golf.
23:06That was about you.
23:07Yeah.
23:07All right.
23:08I'm on to both of you.
23:09Yeah.
23:09You're vain.
23:10You think we were talking about you the whole time.
23:12Carl Simon.
23:12Yeah.
23:12You're so vain.
23:13All right.
23:13All right.
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