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411 Podcast🍾Reading Between The Wines
DISC 6: Vitality
Track 13: Celebrating on Credit
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Transcript
03:01More than a podcast, this is a sanctuary for self-discovery, healing, and personal growth.
03:08Here, we explore what it means to live debt-free, not just financially, but spiritually, mentally, physically, and emotionally.
03:16Every episode is part of a journey across our weekly mentorship series, spiritual Sundays, mental Mondays, transformational Tuesdays, wind-down
03:26Wednesdays, coaching sessions Thursdays, and financial Fridays.
03:31Each day holds space for wisdom, and real conversation. So grab your journal, pour your glass, and prepare to go
03:39beyond the surface. Because here, we don't just talk, we transform.
03:44And now, here's your guide through it all, entrepreneur, mentor, and founder of Black Diamond Consultations, Laren Gaines.
04:04What's going on, what's going on, what's going on? Welcome, welcome, welcome on in.
04:09Welcome to Reading Between the Wines. This is another episode, this is another episode, another Wind Down Wednesday. And I
04:20just want to say, thank you all so much for joining in. I appreciate you.
04:25Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, and good evening, all at the same time. For those
04:35of you who have been rocking with us for a minute, you understand and you know exactly where I'm coming
04:41from.
04:41And I appreciate y'all for being out there. The best thing that you could possibly do to help support
04:48this movement is to like, comment, share, subscribe, tag a friend, text a friend.
04:57And basically, refer this podcast out to someone else, share this podcast out, share this video, share this feed out
05:09to somebody else. Because you never know when breakthroughs are going to come through. You never know what episode is
05:17going to happen on.
05:18And my life changed in 2022, basically, for me, looking up and listening to somebody else. And here we are
05:27here today. So with that being said, let's get right on into this. I also want to let you know
05:34right off the rip that this is going to be a dry episode.
05:38So we're going to turn this into Wisdom Wednesday. But of course, you know, I'm going to give you some
05:43wisdom around wine as well. I have something special that I want to, you know, bring to you.
05:50So with that, let's go right ahead on and get right on into this. But before I switch gears, I
05:58want to give a very special thank you to my executive producer.
06:02I want to thank God for giving me another opportunity to come out here and continuously do what I do
06:09in every single week. It just continuously gets better and better with the lessons, you know, that I've learned along
06:17the way.
06:18So I want to say thank you so much. Give all of this to the most high for making this
06:23possible.
06:25Facebook, Instagram. Thank you all so much. I appreciate you all for the love out there.
06:30YouTube, of course. Anywhere you listen, we have so many different platforms, iHeartRadio, Deezer, Amazon Music, Spotify.
06:41I do want to say for the people out there, if you switched over from X, hang on a minute.
06:46I'm not sure what they got going on over there, but something's going on and the podcast has not been
06:52available for about two weeks.
06:54But, you know, things shall turn. But stay connected across all of my social media platforms and you'll be able
07:01to listen to the podcast or get some information one way or the other.
07:05So let's get into this. So we are celebrating on credit tonight.
07:11Episode 13, celebrating on credit.
07:14And we're going to speak a lot about some credit and using it the right way and what it means
07:21to use it the wrong way.
07:27Song of the day.
07:31Celebration.
07:33Cooling the gang.
07:361980. I was actually born when this album came out and this is off of their Celebrate album.
07:44And since we're speaking about celebrating tonight, we're going to celebrate on credit.
07:49But we can also celebrate on some wisdom as well.
07:53So what I want to bring tonight when it comes to celebrate is.
07:59Are you just celebrating during the good times?
08:02Or can you appreciate and celebrate when things aren't going so well?
08:08Because last week going into this week.
08:12I've had some challenges and I just sat back and I gave it to the most high.
08:16And even though some of these challenges were not the best of the best.
08:21I can still celebrate in a moment and say, thank God for you showing me everything that I need to
08:27see about this individual.
08:28Thank God for you showing me everything I needed to see about this company.
08:32Because had I just got so caught up on celebrating during the good times when people love me so much,
08:41I wouldn't have been able to celebrate and see the storm when it was coming.
08:47So if I had got so caught up and so wrapped up about what somebody thought about me during the
08:52good times, and then when they decided to twist and do the 180 or decided to flip up and do
08:58what they want to do, if I was so hopped up on when it was so good, maybe I wouldn't
09:04have been able to accept the bad.
09:06So what are you celebrating?
09:08Are you celebrating just the good times or are you able to celebrate when there are some setbacks because you
09:13know that the most high knows better than you and you know that, check this out, your rejection is my
09:24protection.
09:25You may not want nothing to do with me today, but trust and believe that the tables will turn and
09:31when they do, don't come running, don't come running.
09:37And then sometimes when you go through these setbacks, when you go through these periods of rejection, when you go
09:45through these periods where people want to go ahead and do the 180 on you, they want to do that
09:49twist and turn on you thinking that they have the upper hand.
09:54See, I learned today to learn how to celebrate those moments because God can take care of people far way
10:03better than I can.
10:06That's what I'm talking about tonight.
10:08What are you celebrating?
10:09Are you just so good when everything is on and popping, when everything is turned up, when everything is lit?
10:16But can you celebrate and can you thank him for stopping some of the nonsense that is headed your way?
10:28Track 13, Celebrating on Credit, Song of the Day Celebration by Cool and the Gang, released in 1980 off of
10:39their album Celebrate.
10:42And we're going to speak about some Cool and the Gang hits, you know, when we bring in my special
10:51guest, author slash poet, Birdman313.
10:59So it is a dry episode.
11:03I want to let you know that, but I am sipping on some fabulous tea right about now.
11:09But I'm going to still bring you all the wine that I need to bring.
11:18So I want to talk about the building blocks of wine because, you know, I speak about wine.
11:24We sample wine, but we don't really get into the real nitty gritty of it.
11:29So I want to get in and I want to take this moment before we get on with the show
11:33to just give you the real nitty gritty of wine, what we look for, what it all means.
11:41So the basic elements that make up a glass of wine, those that wine experts analyze when they are assessing
11:48the wine's quality or sugar, acidity, tannin and alcohol.
11:54Grape sugar is fermented into alcohol, and it gives the wine its richness and its fruitiness.
12:01The riper the grapes, the better the fruit, the sugar and the quality.
12:06Acidity is what keeps the fruit lively on a palate, especially in a white wine.
12:12Without it, wine becomes limp and bland, while reds not only seem flabby and unexciting, but also lack the structure
12:20to age well.
12:21Tannin comes from the grape skins and the seeds and is rarely noticeable in whites, although they really are there.
12:30But it is what gives a red wine its all-important structure, helping it to last and mature with age.
12:38Finally, alcohol gives a wine weight on a palate, such as a German wine with 7% alcohol will taste
12:46light,
12:47while a chunky California Ziffindale with 17% will be more than a mouthful.
12:55In a good wine, alcohol should never leave a burning sensation.
12:59So those are the building blocks of wine.
13:03So I want to say thank you all so much for joining.
13:06I appreciate you for coming in.
13:07I could not do this without each and every one of you, week after week, year after year.
13:13And, of course, I'm going to go ahead and get my cup.
13:17I don't have a glass.
13:19I'm going to get my cup of tea that I'm sampling.
13:23And for you out there, if you are sipping on your wine, I want to say thank you.
13:27You know, of course, we got more wine coming.
13:33When my sister was earlier this week about the Reading Between the Wines tour for 2026,
13:39which, you know, of course, that is going to be on and popping.
13:43So, yeah, sometimes we just got to take a break.
13:45That's what we're doing here.
13:46I'm keeping it real.
13:48Letting you all know.
13:49I just wasn't feeling it.
13:51And Jersey here is cold, like I'm what?
13:53And I'm over it.
13:54And we possibly word again, just over it.
13:58So, I got my tea.
14:00I got my pajamas.
14:02I'm ready.
14:04And we get ready to make some magic happen here tonight.
14:09Just thank you all for coming in.
14:11I appreciate it.
14:16All right.
14:16All right.
14:17So, now, yeah, let's get into this.
14:21Let's bring in my friend, family to the show, author.
14:28Slash poet, verb man, 313.
14:43What's going on?
14:44What's going on?
14:46Hey, how's it going, man?
14:48Going good.
14:49Going good.
14:51Yeah.
14:53Yeah, you talking about the challenges, man.
14:56We've been having challenges here with this internet.
14:59So, if I pop off, I can pop back on.
15:02I just have to go and set it.
15:04Reset it.
15:06Just to let you know.
15:07Yeah.
15:08You know, things like that happen.
15:11Yeah.
15:11You know, I had my fair share of speaking and recording half of the show with the mic turned off.
15:18Yeah.
15:18Microphones not plugged in.
15:20Yeah.
15:20You know.
15:22Yeah.
15:23But I just thought I'd give you a heads up on that, man.
15:27I got you.
15:27I saw you pop out.
15:29And then you popped back in.
15:30I saw you.
15:30I saw you.
15:31Oh, I did?
15:34At least that's what it seemed like.
15:35I thought that was you.
15:39I hope not, because I was recording.
15:43I think this week is a challenge for most podcasters.
15:48I don't know.
15:48I'm just putting it out there.
15:50I listened to a few podcasters.
15:52And one of my favorite ones was a little off this week.
15:56And I'm like, hmm, what's going on?
15:59Technical difficulties and all types of stuff was going on.
16:03But we ain't wishing none of that over here.
16:06We've been having a good streak.
16:08Everything's been going great.
16:09That's good.
16:09That's good.
16:10Yeah.
16:10I seen that little message SOS left on Instagram about me saying it's 80 degrees here.
16:17She said, don't say that too loud.
16:19Laren may get jealous.
16:23Well, listen, it's been 40.
16:26I think we hit 40.
16:28I was outside yesterday for like an hour.
16:33I finally got out, still walking and climbing over snow mountains.
16:37But I was out.
16:38Because when it went, when it go from, but isn't that crazy, though?
16:42Because when it go from negative to single digits and then it pops up to 40, you think it's summertime.
16:49Oh, yeah.
16:50Oh, yeah.
16:50Well, you know, I have to say, man, it's been, the day was the coolest it's been in about a
16:56week here.
16:57And it was 78.
17:0078 degrees.
17:02Yeah.
17:02Because, you know, I've been going to the park, which I'm quite sure you've been seeing the pictures I've been
17:07posting.
17:07And I've been going to the park and been going to the park and putting some videos together and getting
17:15ready to put some words to them.
17:17And, you know, just the same old thing that I do, man, create.
17:22Yeah, yeah.
17:23God made us in his image.
17:28And he is the creator.
17:32So, of course, that's what we are.
17:34We're creators.
17:35Oh, yeah.
17:36He's made us to create things.
17:37Absolutely.
17:38That's good.
17:40Shout out to Miss SOS talking about the temps.
17:47Yeah.
17:49All right.
17:50So, yeah.
17:51You ready to get into our money hacks?
17:55Oh, yeah.
17:57All right.
17:57Let's get right on into it.
18:01All right.
18:02100.
18:03100.
18:04All right.
18:05Let's see what we got with 100.
18:10100.
18:12All right.
18:14We spoke about we on this.
18:17We on this retirement thing.
18:18We still want it, which is cool.
18:21That's good.
18:22And this is what you should do.
18:25Roll over multiple accounts into one account prior to retirement.
18:31If you've had a few jobs along the way, you might have more than an old, excuse me, if you've
18:37had a few jobs along the way, you might have more than a few old 401ks that you haven't done
18:43much with.
18:44As mentioned earlier, if any of those plans charge high fees, you should get them out ASAP and move your
18:52money into an IRA rollover account.
18:55Also, as you near retirement, it is doubly important to consolidate your multiple accounts into one account.
19:03Not only is it easier to keep track of, but also when you begin to take withdrawals in retirement, it
19:09will make it so much.
19:10It will make so much sense to not have to figure out your required minimum distribution from multiple accounts all
19:17over the place.
19:19What do you think about that?
19:22Yeah, you know, I mean, for those who can afford that, that's not a bad thing there.
19:29You know, I mean, I say, you know, everybody that retires, don't be in that position.
19:41But if you can be in that position, I always tell people, go ahead and take advantage of it.
19:49Absolutely.
19:51And back to what this at the beginning here, you've had a few jobs along the way.
19:58That's cool.
19:59But if you got your money spread out all over the place into multiple accounts, that's a little disturbing because
20:06you shouldn't wait.
20:08This is just my personal opinion.
20:10Listen, I am not here to tell anybody what to do.
20:12I'm not a financial advisor.
20:14I'm not a financial planner.
20:16I'm a financial coach.
20:18And this is just through my experiences and what I've gone through and the lessons that I've learned.
20:25It is not good to have your money just spread out all over the place and you have to run
20:30down and keep track this password signing into that account.
20:34Don't this, that, the next, the other.
20:37You wait till retirement.
20:40Please.
20:40If I don't work for that job anymore, I want my money now.
20:44I'm not waiting till nothing.
20:45I'm rolling that over into an IRA as soon as possible and get my money away from that old employer
20:52that I'm no longer in a relationship with anymore.
20:54And I'm putting it under my possession and my own IRA account.
20:59So for those of you out there listening, listen, I'm not telling you what to do.
21:05But if it was me, I'm not waiting.
21:08If I know if I no longer work for you in 2025, trust and believe before that year ends, I've
21:15already taken that money off of your hands and putting it into my possession.
21:19So I have control over my own destiny.
21:22Don't don't wait till retirement.
21:24Don't have it spread all out.
21:25Don't keep chasing these passwords and accounts from these old employers and just absolutely not.
21:32That's what I have to say.
21:34You know, that that that is true, because that kind of like happened to me.
21:40One, I was paying into an account.
21:44And then at the end of the year, they sent me a statement.
21:47Then when I said, well, I told him I want to pull it out.
21:50They told me I didn't have nothing.
21:52And I'm like, you just sent me a statement.
21:54Oh, that was a mistake.
21:57And then I talked to an employee that worked there.
22:03And he said, dude, he said, man, what they did was they took your money and gave it to split,
22:10you know, split it with all of us.
22:12He said, Nick, if they didn't split it with us, the ones in the front office got it.
22:18I don't even see how that is.
22:20That is illegal to the 10th power, man.
22:24But hey, that's.
22:26And I told him, I said, seriously.
22:28He said, yeah.
22:29And he said that you're not the only one is several people that have complained about their money.
22:37And he said.
22:39If they don't give it to us as bonuses at the end of the year, then he said what they
22:45do is in the front office, they take it and a spirit, you know, spirit, give it to them.
22:55I don't even know what to say about that.
22:57I'm thinking again, you know, I don't know.
23:00But I'm thinking that that money might still be there.
23:03Maybe they were just watching like that.
23:05Maybe they were just.
23:07The company them folded been folded years ago.
23:12So I tried to fight it.
23:15I did, man.
23:16And they told me that they said, stop calling.
23:20Because you're not getting a penny from us.
23:24So.
23:25Oh, see, see.
23:27But see, you know what?
23:28But just back to what I was saying with the celebrate.
23:30See, sometimes we got to celebrate when things ain't going so good like that, because you don't know that probably
23:36was a blessing right there to get away from that situation before you invested too much into it.
23:41Before you put a whole bunch in it and was sitting there counting on it and waiting on it.
23:46And then something like this could happen.
23:48Yeah.
23:50Yeah.
23:51Yeah.
23:55It's interesting.
23:56Yeah.
23:57That's why entrepreneurship sounds so sweet to me today.
24:02Yeah.
24:05Because some of these jobs, man.
24:07But I'm not even going to stay on that.
24:10I'm going to get off that for a minute.
24:13Yeah.
24:15All right.
24:16So.
24:18Oh, it's going to be interesting.
24:20As we get into this tonight, we are headed all the way to be more Baltimore, Maryland.
24:29We have Miss Monique.
24:32We helping out Miss Monique tonight.
24:35And let me make sure that I got you back up here.
24:37I think you just dropped off, but I see you back in here now.
24:40Yeah.
24:40Yeah.
24:41Yeah.
24:41Yeah.
24:41So we headed to Baltimore and we're going to get right into tonight's assignment.
24:49Monique says, Laren, I love celebrating people.
24:53Birthdays, graduations, promotions.
24:56I'm the one who plans the dinners, buy the thoughtful gifts, make sure everyone feels special.
25:02It's how I show love.
25:04But I looked at my credit card statement last week and it hits me.
25:08Half of my balance is celebrations.
25:10Flights I couldn't really afford.
25:12Group dinners where I covered more than my share because I didn't want to be that person.
25:17Gifts that felt meaningful in the moment, but now feel heavy.
25:23I don't regret loving people, but I do regret not loving my future self the same way.
25:29Nobody asked me to do as much as I do.
25:33That's the truth.
25:35I put the pressure on myself because I want to be generous.
25:38I want to be remembered as someone who shows up.
25:41But now I'm trying to pay down debt created by moments that lasted a few hours.
25:46I don't want to become that person who stops celebrating.
25:49I just want to keep celebrating with money.
25:52Excuse me.
25:53I don't want to become the person who stops celebrating.
25:57I just don't want to keep celebrating with money I don't have.
26:02How do you keep your generosity without turning it into a financial setback?
26:08What do you have for Miss Monique?
26:13Oh, man.
26:15You know, personally, I thought about this and I'm like, you said you love doing this, but now you're going
26:25to complain.
26:27Then nobody asked you to do it.
26:29So what is the complaint really?
26:32Nobody asked me to.
26:34And it seems like you're trying to, to me, that you're trying to buy friendship and love.
26:42And people either, they're going to love you, whether you do this or not.
26:47Or hate you, whether you.
26:50Exactly.
26:51And, you know, I've had friends that have, you know, been like this, you know, they always want to be
27:00the life of the party, as they say.
27:03They want to show everybody that they're doing well, that they can do all of this and that.
27:11And then they're actually, they're miserable because when they get this, like she said, when she get a statement, it's
27:19money that, you know, you don't spend.
27:22And then you think about what you're going to have for the future.
27:27And it's, you know, this is on her.
27:32Can't nobody, can't nobody tell her, you know, because she wasn't forced.
27:38That's how I look at it.
27:40I could be wrong, but she even said, no, you know, nobody asked her to do it.
27:46So why is she complaining about it?
27:52I mean, you know, it's really not much to say about it because she's doing this to herself.
28:02You started off with an attitude.
28:04You said, ain't nobody tell you to do it.
28:11No, no, you know, it's just that, okay, I guess if you want to look at it like that, but
28:17it's just the fact that nobody, nobody told her to do it.
28:21She's doing this on her own.
28:23She wants everybody, you know, how, and I don't know if you had in your family, like you have like
28:29a big mama and everybody go to her house for dinner and stuff, you know, like that.
28:38And, you know, when she gets sick, who's going to come and help her?
28:45You know, everybody, everybody that she was cooking for should be helping her.
28:51Right.
28:51Exactly.
28:52I didn't, I didn't, I didn't grow up with, you know, big mama because my parents was, we was living
28:57in Michigan.
28:58My grandparents were living down here in Texas.
29:00But when we came down here, my, my, you know, we didn't, we didn't look for, you know, our grandmother
29:08to, when she, and she was older and she was sick.
29:11And, you know, we, no one looked for her to do things like that.
29:15I'm just, you know, trying to give an example of, you know, everybody have that one person in a neighborhood
29:21where, or you have this one guy who want to be Santa Claus 24, 7, 365 days.
29:29But then he gets back and he complained about, you know, if somebody treat him wrong.
29:35Oh man, I treated this person.
29:37I did this, did that.
29:38And this is how you do me.
29:40Well, you know, really nobody asks you that, asks you to do all of that.
29:47And she, she, you know, the example that she's putting out there, she, she gotta, she gotta look in the
29:54mirror and she gotta say to herself, well, I did this to myself.
30:00Nobody really did this to me.
30:04That's, that's a good point.
30:05Um, anything that happens to us in life.
30:09And I know it, we may not all understand it and it may not make sense today, but one day,
30:17maybe you'll get to a point where you understand that everything that we experience in our lifetime.
30:23Um, majority of the time we've done it to ourselves.
30:28Exactly.
30:29So this, we have family members that act like this in this letter.
30:36We have friends that act like this, such as what you said, Birdman.
30:41We have people, people on our jobs that act like this.
30:46Um, you love celebrating people.
30:49Right.
30:51Birthdays, graduations, and promotions.
30:53Okay.
30:54You love celebrating it so much.
30:58You're the one who plans dinners, buys thoughtful gifts, and makes sure that everyone feels special.
31:03That's how you show love, huh?
31:05Now, nowhere do I see any, in the beginning of this, that you take time to show love to yourself.
31:14Exactly.
31:16You too busy people pleasing and doing things for others that you haven't taken the time out to show love
31:27for yourself.
31:28Because if you did, you would understand and see that there's something wrong here.
31:36Especially when you're buying stuff with money that you don't have.
31:42Credit cards, just swiping up.
31:44Half of the balance is on celebrations.
31:48Flights, it's gotten to the point where you're putting people on planes and you know that you can't afford it.
31:55Well, that's game over.
32:00Yeah.
32:01No.
32:02Mm-mm.
32:02Now you've gotten to the flights, group dinners, where you cover more than your fair share because you didn't want
32:09to be that person.
32:10What person?
32:12What person?
32:14What person?
32:14That actually paid for what they were supposed to pay for?
32:19I don't understand this here.
32:20I don't get it.
32:21I know.
32:21And like I said, I have a friend now.
32:24I know when my son, when my son Michael hears this, he's going to say, oh, I know the guy
32:30you're talking about.
32:31He was like that.
32:32You know, you used to go around his house and he was, you know, big baller.
32:38He had everything.
32:40You know, you can go over there.
32:41You didn't have to buy no beer.
32:43He had it.
32:43You had to buy no liquor.
32:45He had, you didn't have to buy no smoke because he had it.
32:48And, you know, he had his vehicle.
32:51His wife had her vehicle.
32:53His son had his.
32:55But now, you know what?
32:57He's living in a transitional home because guess what?
33:00His kids left him.
33:02His wife left him.
33:04And all his friends don't want to be around him now.
33:08And so, as one of our friends, you know, we got a couple friends that,
33:13that I see every once in a while and I'll ask them about him and they'll say, hey, man.
33:20They said, hey, he living in transitional, you know, and he walk in and I'm like walking.
33:27They say, yeah.
33:28And, you know, he don't have no teeth.
33:30And, you know, I'm like, wow, man.
33:33And for a minute, yes, he was on top.
33:38When the money goes, there goes.
33:40Yeah.
33:41Yeah.
33:42And then, you know, you look at it, you look at the money you spend and you say, man, all
33:49this money I spent on this, this and that, I really didn't have to.
33:54And why did I?
33:56Right.
33:57When the money goes, there goes your friends.
34:01Exactly.
34:01When the money goes, there goes your bins.
34:04Yes.
34:05Yes.
34:07Yeah.
34:07And, you know, I will say this.
34:10I do have one son that's like that, you know, and now he don't come around and I don't invite
34:16him around.
34:19So sometimes when people get like, you know, like even Monique saying, how do you keep your generosity without turning
34:27it into a financial setback?
34:29And, you know, like you said, you spoke about your son.
34:34Sometimes the only thing that you can do is pray for people.
34:37And because you can't really tell them one way or the other because they may not receive it or take
34:42it the right way.
34:43So in this situation, when you're, when Monique is clearly know that she couldn't afford things, plane tickets, dinners, this,
34:51that, the next, the other, and still have the, I want to say nerve, but I'm going to take that
34:57back.
34:58I ain't going to be so harsh, but still, but still have it to ask, how do you keep your
35:04generosity?
35:05Oh, so my, my point is, oh, you still haven't learned your lesson yet with all of these things that
35:10we have going on.
35:11You still haven't learned it yet.
35:12So the only thing that I can do is pray for somebody like Monique and some of us out there
35:19who are listening, where we have family members, we have friends, we have people on our jobs that clearly are
35:24doing too much, doing the most and can't even see past go and their consumer debt.
35:30When it comes to this, only thing you can do is just pray for them because they're going to have
35:35to hit their own financial rock bottom to where they won't even have to ask questions of how do you
35:39keep your generosity?
35:41There's other things that you can do to show generosity without digging in your pockets.
35:48Exactly.
35:50Well, I'm, I'm over this right now.
35:52I don't even know what to say about it.
35:55You know, that's funny, man, because I, you know, when I looked at this and normally I, you know, when
36:02I, when I look at these things, I look at them and I look at them three or four times.
36:07And immediately after I read it the first time and I'm like, the decision is really up to her, not
36:16nobody else.
36:18You know, and you know, and you know, it's, it's like I said, man, is she looking for love or,
36:25you know, she feel like she has to be that top person so everybody can look up to her.
36:33And then the first time one of them youngsters say something bad to her, she going to get upset and
36:40tell me, oh, all this stuff I did for you.
36:45And that, that, that seems to be the, that seems to be the, I've heard this, man, I did all
36:52of this for you.
36:53And this, how are you going to talk to me?
36:57Listen, I used to be that person.
36:59So I know, I know I used to be that person that would throw it back up into somebody's face
37:05about all of the things that I've done for them.
37:08And this is, and listen, that's not a good place to be in because when you do something for somebody,
37:14you have to do it from the heart, expecting nothing in return.
37:17And what I've learned out of my own situation, because the shoe ended up being on the other foot, you
37:25know, later on down the road, once I sobered up because you do reap what you sow.
37:30So, yeah, so I had to be on the other end of it where people would actually do stuff for
37:36me and then turn around and, you know, do the 180 on me.
37:40But all, all gifts are not good gifts.
37:44You got to be very careful with who you take from.
37:47Yeah.
37:47You know, it's funny you said that because there was a time when I would go visit my sons in
37:53San Antonio and we, you know, we would go out to restaurants and eat.
37:58And one day, my son, Michael, he said, dad, he said, we don't have to go to a restaurant.
38:06He said, man, let's just go up here to the grocery store and get this and go to the house
38:11and cook it.
38:12And then my youngest son said, yeah, pops, you don't have, we don't have to do this.
38:16Every time you come here, go to a restaurant.
38:19And I'm like, okay, then I said, well, I said, when we were small, I wasn't able to take y
38:26'all to nice restaurants like that.
38:27They said, hey, you did what you could do with what you had.
38:32And now when I go there, they, they cook it.
38:35They cook it for me.
38:37Go sit down, man.
38:38Go sit down and watch TV.
38:40You know, he's go put your earplugs in and listen to some music.
38:46Just go sit down.
38:47And that's how they do.
38:50And they, they will cook.
38:53And well, you know, could Mike stay with his mom?
38:56Cause he helping her out.
38:57And, you know, and so like, he said, yeah, you and mom did enough for us.
39:03It's time for us to do for y'all.
39:05That's what's up.
39:06That's what's up.
39:07Yeah.
39:08So, you know, and I appreciate that, you know, and now both of them can cook.
39:14You know, I mean, Michael surprised me cause he'd been cooking so much and it surprised me.
39:20But he, like I said, he's taking care of his mom where she don't have to cook all the time.
39:25And I told him, Hey man, I said, you know what, dude, I mean, I said, you know, and I
39:30always tell him regardless, you know, one is going one way, one go the other way.
39:34But I tell him, I say, Hey man, I'm proud of both of y'all because y'all done stepped
39:38up.
39:40And, you know, you do what you can for her.
39:43And I mean, they do what they can for me when I'm there.
39:46Right.
39:46Right.
39:47You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:50So like I said, when you, I mean, she just, she worried about if she don't do this and what
39:59people are going to say and people, whether she don't realize people's talking about her right now for the very
40:07ones that she's doing for, they talking about her right now.
40:11Cause when they see her coming, you know what they saying?
40:14Hey man, put your money up.
40:16She getting ready to pay for everything.
40:19You know, that's crazy that, that, you know, and that's so profound that you just brought that up because in
40:282020, when things started to break down around me, I was in an environment where I saw people do that
40:35to their so-called friend.
40:36And this woman was so generous buying food.
40:40She was buying pizza at the moment.
40:42And I heard people that are supposed to be her best friend, sister say, Oh no, put your money up
40:50because so-and-so getting ready to pay.
40:52I said, Oh, wow.
40:54I said, I can't believe y'all.
40:55First of all, you said it in front of me.
40:58That's what I was like, wow.
40:59So if you, this supposed to be, you know, your home girl, your ace, and this is how you treating
41:06her.
41:06And you only know me for, you know, a couple of years.
41:10I can imagine what you would say when you see me coming.
41:13I was like, Oh, now I know I got to get from around these people.
41:17Yeah.
41:17And I mean, I've seen people, you know, like we'd be, you know, you know, you know how it is,
41:22you know, hanging out up at the store, but we wouldn't hang out in the front.
41:26We'll go on the side where, you know, when, you know, when distract, you know, customers away from the store.
41:34And we always had one person.
41:36They said, Oh yeah, man.
41:37I said, we getting ready to get drunk tonight, man.
41:39And we ain't got to spend a penny.
41:40Just like, you know, and the, Hey man, you want a drink?
41:46You want a drink?
41:46You want a drink?
41:47Yep.
41:49And even, you didn't even have to say nothing.
41:51He was like, Oh man, he'll count how many people out there going there and back out there.
41:56Everybody, he said, Oh man, Oh, you need another one.
41:59And I, and I just, I looked at him one day and I'm like, you know what?
42:03I don't even know this guy that well.
42:04And I feel like I'm using them.
42:08Wow.
42:08And I, I just, you know, whenever I seen them guys, Hey man, they said, Hey man, you don't hang
42:16out with us that much no more.
42:18I said, man, I got things to do, man.
42:21Right.
42:21Right.
42:22Get away from that situation real quick.
42:25Yeah.
42:26Cause eventually that person is going to snap and going to realize, Hey man, all these people just hanging around
42:34with me, but quote, what I can do for them.
42:37And my dad used to always tell me, I mean, that's what I learned there growing up.
42:41He said, you got people that will hang out with you just because you can do things for them.
42:49And he said, they won't lift a finger for you when you need it.
42:54Exactly.
42:56Yep.
42:58Well, I think we, uh, gave Ms. Monique, um, enough for tonight.
43:04I don't know.
43:05Um, yeah, again, Monique, you're going to have to figure this out on your own.
43:09You got to go through your own financial, you know, uh, rock bottom in order to start to think different,
43:17stay in it long enough.
43:19Yeah.
43:20That's the only thing I have to say.
43:21I'm starting to say that this year, you know what?
43:23Let me not force nothing.
43:24Let me not say anything, stay in it long enough.
43:28You'll want to get out.
43:29And when you're ready to get out, if you stayed in there long enough, you won't want to go back.
43:35Exactly.
43:38All right.
43:40So anybody out there listening, if you want to chime in, maybe you saw something different from me and Birdman.
43:45Maybe you think differently.
43:46Hey, we all different.
43:48Chime in, drop it in the comments.
43:50Let us know what you think about it.
43:52And, um, you can also DM, you can text 609-200-1098 as well.
43:58Let us know how you feel about tonight's segment.
44:01And Birdman, what you got going on in your world this week?
44:06Oh, really, MSNC, Saturday.
44:09It's called APS, Austin Poetry Society.
44:14Have a reading.
44:15It's on Zoom.
44:16Be doing that.
44:18And then Sunday, that's in Austin.
44:24Performance Poets out of West Palm Beach, Florida have a reading.
44:31I'm going to do that.
44:32And I don't know.
44:34There's a reading that's up in New York that I go to a lot.
44:39I may go to that reading instead of the one performance, but they're at the same time.
44:46So, I normally have to choose which one I'm going to go to.
44:51Oh, so this one in New York is going to be virtual?
44:54Yeah.
44:55Yes.
44:56Oh, okay.
44:57Flying out here to New York.
44:59Oh, no.
45:00Hey, man, I ain't got that.
45:02Oh, no.
45:02I ain't got no flight money no more.
45:07No.
45:08No, man.
45:09Yeah.
45:09No.
45:10It's on, you know, all of it's on Zoom.
45:13Okay.
45:13So, you know, I don't know by tomorrow which one I'm going to go to.
45:19I kind of like both of them, but I kind of like the one in New York a little bit
45:27more
45:27because it's a lot of the readers there, they are, I don't see, how can I put it?
45:37They seem a little bit friendly.
45:40They seem a little bit friendlier.
45:42That's interesting that New York seems friendlier, or is it that you just feel a little bit more
45:48at home because it's New York?
45:52I don't know.
45:56There's a couple people that I really connect to.
45:59One of them is over, me and him, me and him and his girlfriend used to do a festival in
46:05Austin
46:06for, you know, for a few years.
46:09And so, like, and then there's a guy that's out in Yosemite, and him and I, you know, have
46:17gotten tight.
46:17So, that has a lot to do with where the ones in Florida, it's a couple there that's like that.
46:26But, you know, hey, man, you know, it's like it's just something different with both of them.
46:33And, you know, and I guess it has to do with, and both of them have, the age group is
46:42the same.
46:44It's just a different flavor.
46:47I can't pinpoint on why I like the one in New York better than I do the one in Florida.
46:54Shout out to the New York vibe because I know exactly what it is.
46:58It's that up north vibe.
47:00I got you.
47:01But see, the one in New York, they give you five minutes to read, where the, I don't need no
47:10five minutes,
47:10but they give you five minutes to read.
47:13So, if I want to read three poems the first round, I can, and then the second round, I can
47:18read a short one,
47:19whereas the one in Palm, you know, Palm Beach is three minutes.
47:27So, you know, and like I said, I kind of like, and I think I know, I do think I
47:34know what it is,
47:35but I'm not going to say it right now.
47:37And when I tell you, you're going to be like, dude, you sure about that?
47:43And I'm going to tell you what it is.
47:46Okay.
47:47I can't wait to hear this.
47:49Okay.
47:52And then, you know, Diana going to start back editing my next book next week, and so I can get
48:02it off.
48:03And, you know, matter of fact, that publisher is out of New York.
48:11So, I don't know what it is, man, but it's, you know, that's what's going on.
48:17And, you know, of course, I have my books on Amazon at Birdman313.
48:22My YouTube channel, you know, youtube.com slash author, poet, Birdman31355.
48:32And, you know, Instagram, Birdman31355.
48:37Also on Spotify, I need to get them a new video.
48:41I mean, I already have 12 of them on her platform.
48:44It's coffee, wine, and words, Spotify channel.
48:50And I'm thinking about sending her a new video.
48:54So, I mean, if anybody just wanted to go there, they can, you know, see.
48:59Like I said, I have 12.
49:01So, if you want to look at all 12 in one day, fine.
49:04If you want to take, you know, a day off, you know, look at one one day, one the next
49:09week, it's fine.
49:11But, you know, check them out, though, man.
49:14And I think I chose some pretty good ones on Spotify for whatever reason.
49:21And that one is out.
49:22This platform is in Vegas.
49:25Wow.
49:26Wow.
49:28All right.
49:29So, I'm all around.
49:31Yeah.
49:31Yeah.
49:32More to come, too, on Birdman.
49:34And I got some updates for that as well.
49:36But.
49:37Yeah.
49:38I know we got to get out of here to pay some bills.
49:41So, I appreciate that.
49:43And I will.
49:44I'll be talking to you soon.
49:46So.
49:46Okay.
49:47Take care.
49:48Yeah, you too.
49:49All right.
49:50All right.
49:51Take care.
49:52Yep.
49:52You too.
49:54Ladies and gentlemen, there you have it.
49:57That was author slash poet Bergman 313.
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