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00:00Mike Dunleavy, check this out.
00:02Oh, we haven't played this yet today.
00:04This is interesting.
00:06So Mike Dunleavy is asked about roster building.
00:11And this is what everybody wants to know about right now, right?
00:15The roster construction, what moves might be out there, the draft, et cetera.
00:19So that's what he's asked about by Tim Kawakami.
00:22Listen to the way he chooses to answer it.
00:26I think the main focus beyond roster construction and what happens next April, May, and June
00:32for us is come August, September, November is the stuff we talked about internally about
00:38being more disciplined, taking care of the basketball, cleaning up some of those areas.
00:41It will put us in a place to be in the conversation for those other things.
00:45Right now, we're in a spot where we're not going through the progression the right way.
00:50We're sitting here saying, let's keep turning the ball over.
00:52Let's make a bunch of threes, try and overcome it.
00:54Let's trade for guys with more talent that can overcome these mistakes we're making.
00:59I'd rather back it up, clean those things up, and then build a roster from there where
01:03it's like, okay, we're doing these things and we have really good players and now we
01:07have a chance to be in the conversation.
01:08So that's the way I envision it.
01:10So as far as pulling back or changing our focus, I think it's more of a, frankly, it's
01:14more of just a refocus.
01:15Okay, so just to recap that answer from Mike Dunleavy, hey, what about the roster?
01:22He's like, yeah, let's worry about the roster after we stop throwing the ball into the
01:26stands.
01:26Yeah, that'd be a nice start.
01:28And he did a lot of the turning over of the basketball.
01:32And so if you don't have Draymond, are you going to be better at turnovers?
01:37Probably.
01:38You're going to be worse on defense.
01:39So it's not as easy as, well, that solves that problem.
01:42You got to balance everything out.
01:44Well, it's such a difficult line to figure out, right?
01:50Because he's been a heartbeat of so many different pieces of the Warrior organization.
01:56He has been the leader of the defense.
02:00He has been the best passer of the ball on the pick and roll with Steph Curry.
02:07He knows exactly where Steph's going to be on the court better than anybody else.
02:11He's been an emotional leader.
02:13But with each year, it's a sliding scale.
02:16He's also turning the ball over a lot more.
02:19And then if you want to loop in some of the things that have happened that have sort of
02:25taken the emotions of the team in the wrong direction.
02:28I mean, this is going back, you know, four years now.
02:31But from the Jordan Poole situation to getting into it now where you walk off the court in
02:38the middle of a game because you and Steve Kerr are feuding, it's such a delicate balance.
02:44But here's why I would at least be open to it finally now.
02:51Now, if you're not, and the Warriors have signaled they finally agree with the outside world, if
02:59you're not a true championship contender, then what's the point of having Draymond Green?
03:06Well, I mean, what's the point of having anybody outside of Steph Curry, which there's obviously
03:10box office ramifications?
03:12Well, because everybody else, there is a target.
03:16There is a target to either build to the future or, as you just said, the box office or, you
03:24know, work toward whatever it is you're working toward.
03:27Well, one reason why you would want to keep Draymond Green is because he actually is somebody
03:31who plays basketball on your team and played more basketball than Jimmy Butler, more than
03:36Chris Stapps and Steph and more than Melton and more than Horford and all the rest of the
03:40old fellas.
03:41He actually was healthy last year.
03:43He played 68 games.
03:45And in terms of total minutes, I think only one or two guys played more minutes.
03:50It was probably only pods.
03:52As I look at it, yeah, he played the second most minutes.
03:54So even at 35 last year, he was somebody who did what they need, played basketball.
04:01Yep.
04:01Yep.
04:01I mean, look, I hate the piece of this where it always denigrates into some sort of a, like
04:09sounding like a rip job on Draymond Green.
04:12I don't want to do that.
04:13The guy's a future Hall of Famer and a four-time champion here.
04:16Done.
04:17End of conversation.
04:18That's a beloved player always, period.
04:21Do I want him to spend his whole career in one uniform?
04:25That'd be perfect.
04:26But life ain't perfect.
04:27And I just think that we've arrived at a spot where if you're not truly a championship contender,
04:34then he stands out to me as someone, like that's his point.
04:40Draymond Green's presence is about all of the championship things.
04:45The emotion, the defense, the little things, the putting Steph in his best position to succeed.
04:52If what you're doing is now trying to catch up to what 2026 basketball is like and get younger,
05:00I don't, I don't, I don't understand fully what purpose he serves anymore.
05:06It depends on what you have to give up alongside him to actually get those goals that you're talking about.
05:12And then you're looking at Trey Murphy III out of New Orleans as somebody who is young and athletic
05:17and somebody who could be a piece for a long time here.
05:20Depends on what it's going to cost you alongside of Draymond Green because he still is an elite defender.
05:26He's not DPOY anymore.
05:28He finished 11th last year.
05:30The year before that, he was first team all defense.
05:32So he is still a great defender.
05:34And he brings that and Trey Murphy III won't replace that.
05:38Nobody can replace the defense.
05:40And I do think that there's a lot of leadership that we don't see.
05:44We saw glimpses of it last year in the locker room where, you know, he is a true locker room
05:49leader.
05:50And, yeah, he's had his moments.
05:51And I've been as critical of him as anybody in this market.
05:55But I just don't think that you automatically look to trade him unless you can get something really impactful in
06:01return.
06:02And it doesn't cost you a lot alongside Draymond.
06:04Let's go to Sean in Los Angeles.
06:06Sean, thank you for calling and waiting.
06:08What's going on, my man?
06:10Sean, thanks, guys, for taking my call.
06:13Really appreciate it.
06:14Love listening to you guys.
06:15Yeah, you know, Willard, you said it's a Draymond day.
06:18So I love everything you guys have said today and Stiney and Dunleavy.
06:24And I totally agree with you, Willard, from earlier.
06:26You were talking about your dream scenario.
06:28If we could trade Draymond and, you know, a couple, whatever the package is, a couple future firsts or whatever
06:36to get Trey Murphy, ideally also keep this 11th pick.
06:40That would be like the home run of the summer.
06:42And you guys are right.
06:44You know, Draymond, Hall of Famer, you know, DPOY champion, all that.
06:49That's true one day, Warriors Ring of Honor, all that.
06:52We love Draymond.
06:53Special place in our heart, no doubt about it.
06:56I just don't think that he's an elite defender anymore, as some people might suggest.
07:02I mean, yeah, you can lock up Kawhi and older Kawhi in a moment.
07:05And then two nights later, you're playing a more athletic, quicker, faster Phoenix Suns team, and he can't really guard
07:11anybody.
07:12And I just think that Draymond, he's so far past his prime.
07:17He's declining.
07:18He's slower.
07:19He's not as quick.
07:21And, like, yeah, if you bring him back, he'll have some great nights here and there, no doubt about it.
07:26But most of the time, I think it's just going to be a detriment.
07:30And all his antics on top of that, it's just not worth it anymore for the level that he's playing
07:36at in the year 2026, 2027.
07:40So I'm totally with you.
07:41The thing with Trey Murphy, too, is I just think he's so underrated.
07:45Like, he is one of the purest shooters in the league, and he's so fluid.
07:49Like, he can handle the ball a little bit.
07:51He's a high IQ guy.
07:52He knows when to pass it, when to move it.
07:55And he's got so much range on his shot.
07:57I think that would look like almost like prime splash problems with Trey Murphy and Steph back there.
08:03So you talk about, you know, Draymond doing what's best for Steph Curry.
08:07Well, Draymond, what's best for Steph Curry is getting Trey Murphy and Yaxle Lindenburg.
08:12And, you know, I don't love bringing him back Porzingis.
08:15I think he's a liability on defense.
08:18I don't know what the exact situation is there with, you know, not signing him and bringing in a center
08:26and free agency.
08:27But I think that would be best.
08:29But, yeah, ultimately, we love Draymond.
08:31But I think it's time for a trade.
08:33And the trade you mentioned, Willard, of trading him for Trey Murphy would be a total home run.
08:40And I would be so excited for this Warriors season that's upcoming.
08:44So, yeah, I'm really pumped at that news.
08:47And if we can keep that 11th pick and it's Yaxle or if it's Mara or if it's even Kareem,
08:52I would be happy with any one of those three guys.
08:55I would have no complaints at all with any one of those three guys.
08:59Pairing that with Trey Murphy and Steph and Guy Santos getting better and Pods getting better after an offseason.
09:05Now this is something that I'm really excited to watch next season.
09:09So, yeah, I'm – yeah, go ahead.
09:12No, no, thanks, man.
09:13Thanks.
09:14Yeah, good call.
09:15The only thing I want to mention real quick, you know, you referred to it as news.
09:20It's not news.
09:22That's not like the trade idea is nothing more than that.
09:26It's me and my computer at a trade machine.
09:28And I would call it very unlikely.
09:31Yeah.
09:31But a starting point for a conversation.
09:34And the other thing is – and this is where, like, the Draymond thing sometimes gets hard for me.
09:39I'm not saying trade Draymond Green for all of these negative reasons that people now want to bring up about
09:47how he's not this anymore and he's not that anymore.
09:50I just think there are circumstances in play where I could see it being the right thing for the Warriors
09:59to do right now.
10:00And I think it would be with a very heavy heart that they would do it if they would do
10:05it.
10:05And if that sounds campy and silly to you, then that's fine.
10:09But this is a great Hall of Fame warrior, and I don't think that you take that lightly.
10:16I don't think the Warriors will take that lightly.
10:19But it may end up – if an opportunity exists, it may end up being the right thing to do
10:29because you're transitioning, you're moving forward, you're trying to get younger.
10:35And, my God, they're trying to bang the idea into our head that it's time to turn the ball over
10:40a whole lot less.
10:41And Draymond Green turns the ball over a lot.
10:44He does, and he still is.
10:46I disagree with the caller in terms of him being an elite defender.
10:49Remember what he did against Wemby in the stay-and-play in San Antonio where he deed him up in
10:54back-to-back games, and the Warriors won both of those games?
10:57Can he do it every night?
10:58No.
10:58But nobody in the association does anything every night anymore.
11:02NBA insider Evan Sidery weighed in on what would New Orleans be asking for in a trade for Trey Murphy
11:10III, and tell me if what they're asking for lines up with what the Warriors have.
11:15This from Evan Sidery.
11:17He says a bunch of teams are in pursuit of Trey, and what they're looking for is a combination of
11:23first-round picks, prospects, and an immediate contributor.
11:27So, first-round picks with an S, that would probably include this year's number 11, and you could hope you
11:34could give him two picks down the road.
11:36I'm not sure if that would work.
11:38Prospects with an S, and to me a prospect would be Brandon Pajemski, or I don't know who else on
11:45the Warriors you would even look at it as a, quote, prospect.
11:48And then an immediate contributor, and Draymond Green going to New Orleans to play alongside Jordan Poole doesn't feel to
11:55me to be the immediate contributor that they would be looking for.
11:58No, but at the same time, like, I'm going to push back on this a little bit from this perspective.
12:04It's a report, and he's talking about what other teams have that might match up.
12:08They always say the exact same thing.
12:11Every single time somebody is available through trade, the other team says the exact same thing.
12:18We would like draft capital.
12:22Prospects.
12:22Young prospects.
12:23And a contributor.
12:24And somebody who can contribute now.
12:26How many people do you want for Trey Murphy?
12:29We're not giving you eight people.
12:30You probably want a couple.
12:31Like, what are we talking about?
12:31You want a pick this year.
12:33You want a prospect and somebody who can be good who's not 37.
12:36Who the hell's got that?
12:38And by the way, if you want an immediate contributor, I know a guy whose name is Trey Murphy.
12:43What a stupid, like...
12:45Well, we talked about their finances, and they are completely out of whack going forward.
12:49Right, but you were very correct when you said that of all of the financial issues with New Orleans, the
12:54one guy you'd want to keep is Trey Murphy.
12:56So if you're giving up Trey Murphy or you're open to it, why would you do that?
13:01I would argue it's for draft capital.
13:03Well, they probably want to.
13:05I mean, I don't think they're ready to give up on Zion Williamson.
13:07I don't know.
13:08And so if you think that he's your centerpiece, then you'd want to keep him.
13:12And the other thing I'll say is what they're really after is the thing that none of them are willing
13:16to say publicly.
13:18You're after financial flexibility.
13:21Right.
13:21Which is the only reason why they're taking offers on Trey Murphy.
13:24You're after getting out from underneath contracts.
13:26That's what you're doing.
13:28Like, I've tried to...
13:30I've finally stopped putting up my dukes on this because it's just not a fight you can win.
13:34But every single time someone goes, you know, Don Levy's done a pretty good job, except for that stupid Chris
13:41Paul trade.
13:41I can't believe he traded Jordan Poole and Ryan Rollins at a pick for Chris Paul.
13:47And I'm like, please, you've got to understand what was happening there.
13:50First of all, he'd been on the job for four minutes, number one.
13:54And secondly, they were getting out from underneath Jordan's money.
13:58Nothing else.
13:59Literally nothing else.
14:02At no point were the Warriors like, I think we're a Chris Paul at age 38 away from winning this
14:07sucker.
14:08That's not what was going on.
14:09They're getting out from under the money.
14:12And by the way, they were right.
14:14They were 100% right.
14:16Well, they might be in the same spot with Jimmy Butler and or Draymond Green.
14:19And so you may not actually be able to get a really good player like Trey Murphy.
14:24And just reading this article about other teams, the Lakers are a team, obviously, that will be interested.
14:30And they've been able to hold on to their picks, even through all their moves, getting Luka Doncic and all
14:35the rest of it.
14:35And this article is talking about Dalton Connect and Jake LaRavia or Jared Vanderbilt.
14:41Those are young prospects.
14:43And the Warriors just don't have that.
14:44Right.
14:45Outside of Brennan Pajemski.
14:46All I'm saying is I'm calling BS on the idea that the Pelicans can find a suitor or a partner
14:53that will do that.
14:54I'm calling BS on the idea of the Warriors being able to do this without the 11th pick in this
14:58draft.
14:59You're probably right.
15:00Like, you're probably right.
15:01That's why I called it a dream scenario.
15:03And I love your dream scenario.
15:04Mine would be trade Jimmy for Anthony Davis, draft London Borg, and have LeBron come here on the mid-level.
15:11I thought yesterday you said you were out on Anthony Davis.
15:13I am, but we're talking cockamamie dream scenarios.
15:16No, no, no.
15:16Dream scenarios are things that you want to have happen, not nightmares.
15:20That's not a nightmare.
15:21I mean, that at least would be exciting.
15:22I don't want cockamamie.
15:23Like, a dream scenario is a dream scenario.
15:26Right.
15:26And you probably would have to trade the 11th pick along with Jimmy's contract to get Anthony Davis.
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15:43No, that's what I'm saying.
15:44I'm with you.
15:45You're probably right.
15:46And by the way, if it came to giving up the 11th pick and not netted you Trey Murphy,
15:53and I don't even know what else would be in the deal, like, I'm listening.
15:58Like, let's talk.
15:59Let's talk.
16:00And it's not even because Trey Murphy is a superstar.
16:04I think he's a really good player.
16:06But more importantly, I think he's two other things.
16:09I think he is a brilliant fit with what the Warriors do.
16:14And I think he's 25.
16:16And one of those is not an opinion.
16:18One of those is a fact.
16:20He's 25.
16:21He's 25.
16:22That is awesome.
16:24Yeah.
16:25He shoots the hell out of the three.
16:26He's a 38% career three-point shooter.
16:30He is somebody who can moonlight as a leading scorer when your old guys need a night off
16:37or are hurt.
16:39But ideally fits in as a two or a three, which is another job that's open, at least until
16:45February when Jimmy Butler may or may not return.
16:48In theory, yeah, if he ever comes back.
16:49And, I mean, Porzingis could be your two or your three.
16:52He could be.
16:53He's probably not going to play regularly.
16:55And I just think about if you're the Pelicans and you really are interested in making this
17:00deal.
17:01And I saw Houston could, you know, trade Jabari Smith as a part of it.
17:05And, you know, the Lakers have a much deeper young prospect cadre.
17:10The Warriors basically have pods.
17:12And if you like Will Richard, he'd be a guy.
17:15But they're not that complete when it comes to younger players.
17:18Yeah, but again, I don't, I don't, like, again, if you're going to have Trey Murphy at
17:23$27 million, $26 million, whatever he is, why am I like, you bring up pods.
17:30Why would I want a young player who I might have to pay him in three months?
17:37Just pay Trey.
17:39I think what they want to do is get out from underneath the money and start completely over.
17:45Well, that's the only reason I throw out Draymond, because in this theory, it would
17:50be an expiring deal.
17:51It becomes no money at all.
17:53And you can have draft capital attached to it and you can sort of start your whole thing
17:57over.
17:58This didn't work.
17:59New Orleans has got all these interesting young players who make a lot of money and
18:02they stink.
18:03They can't even win basketball games.
18:05Right.
18:05You know what I mean?
18:06That's how you end up where they did.
18:07But you're not going to totally dismantle it.
18:09And I do think where they are, they're outside the lottery this year because they had to confer
18:14their pick in a previous deal.
18:15I think maybe it was the Anthony Davis trade many years ago, but they don't have their
18:20pick.
18:20Might be the one that went to the Clippers, isn't it?
18:22Grandy, is that right?
18:24The New Orleans pick, isn't that the one that ended up with the Clippers because it came
18:27at a certain spot?
18:29Or do I have that wrong?
18:30No, I don't think so.
18:31The New Orleans pick got sent to Atlanta as part of the trade last year when they moved
18:36up to take Derrick Queen in the first round.
18:38And they gave away an unprotected pick this year.
18:41Got it.
18:42Okay.
18:42So there you go.
18:43They got Bupkus in the first round, just looking at it.
18:46So who do you play for?
18:47Bupkus.
18:48I think he played for Towson State, if memory serves.
18:51I didn't watch them last year.
18:52So if you are looking at a super deep draft and you're New Orleans, and yeah, I do think
18:57that they want to fix the books to a greater extent.
19:00Getting a rookie contract and a good player at the same time, that's your motivation.
19:06It's not to wait three years and get a pick down the road.
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