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00:00:00April 17, 1991, it's evening, the Maso couple are in church, they regularly attend meetings
00:00:12of catechesis and prayer. Antonio, 56, a farmer, a good man and a hard worker. Maria
00:00:23Rosa, 48, housewife. They've been married for 30 years. That evening they took the car,
00:00:32They go out with their son and accompany him to the square where three friends are waiting for him.
00:00:39We have to kill my parents, my father and my mother. And then of course Nadia and Laura.
00:00:45and maybe even Stefano, Laura's husband. We have to get rid of all those who
00:00:50They may be entitled to the inheritance. So it will all be mine, finally. Then we'll divide it up.
00:00:58We have 11 fields, plus the house, plus several savings deposited in the bank. I think so.
00:01:03It's about a billion and a half. We can split the cost if you're up for it.
00:01:12I have always considered the family as the imminent place of violence and this is
00:01:17due to the fact that our society imposes on us rules of correctness, of good manners
00:01:23education, of suppression of emotions, because those who get emotional are mistaken for
00:01:30a weakling. And then this compression of the emotional content that society demands of us
00:01:37It makes sure that when you enter the house you release all the emotions held back outside. Therefore
00:01:43The most violence occurs in the family because it is the only place where it is allowed
00:01:50expressing impulses and emotions that must be forbidden and contained outside. It is the opposite
00:01:57of the excess of good manners, the excess of formalities, the excess of assumptions of
00:02:02formalized languages as required by civilized living. Now men are not made for
00:02:08these mask performances and when they take off the mask when entering the house it comes
00:02:12out everything that was compressed like a volcano. From my point of view the family
00:02:17It is the imminent site of violence and I am never surprised that violence occurs in
00:02:22family. 23 and 10. Mr. and Mrs. Maso come back home. The first to enter the house is Antonio. He comes
00:02:35He was attacked by his son and hit several times with a crowbar. As soon as my father entered the kitchen,
00:02:42I hit him violently on the head with the iron pipe once, twice or three times. Damiano did it too.
00:02:48I hit him with the pot. I remember the handle breaking. My father then fell to the floor.
00:02:53In the meantime, my mother arrived. Paolo and Giorgio attacked her, hitting her on the head.
00:03:00I remember my mother putting up some resistance and dragging herself towards the kitchen door.
00:03:06Then Giorgio took a blanket and straddled her, suffocating her and
00:03:13pressing the blanket into her throat. My mother kept moving and moaning. Then
00:03:18I also hit her repeatedly on the head. Giorgio and Paolo did the same.
00:03:25My father didn't want to die, he was still breathing. So I put my foot in his face, but seeing
00:03:31I wanted to go wash, I asked Giorgio to keep his foot in my face until
00:03:35he wasn't dead.
00:03:39Pietro Maso's parents died after 20 minutes of agony.
00:03:46Two well-liked, good, simple people, the kind of people who perhaps don't have outstanding qualities,
00:03:59But they don't hurt anyone. If they can help, especially neighbors, they do.
00:04:08And then they had a great religious faith. When they returned on the evening of the crime, after a day
00:04:21of work, they had been to a prayer and catechesis meeting which already said what kind of Christians
00:04:35they were, but it helped to think that they died while their hearts were full of goodness, of charity
00:04:48and of trust and faith.
00:04:50Those who have studied family crimes have identified three main categories of parricides.
00:04:56Some are the fruit of a long history of conflict, arguments and mistreatment.
00:05:01Then the crime becomes a kind of vindication, an extreme gesture to free oneself from a destructive bond.
00:05:08Then there are the children who kill their parents for economic gain.
00:05:13They want to get rid of their mother and father, sometimes even their brothers and sisters, in order to be able to
00:05:19immediately take possession of the family's assets.
00:05:23Finally, there are the sick murderers, usually with serious mental disorders, such as schizophrenia.
00:05:36Parma, August 28, 1989.
00:05:42The holidays are over.
00:05:46A glass factory resumes operations.
00:05:52Everyone returned, everyone except the cashier, Giuseppe Carretta.
00:06:01After a few days of absence, his colleagues go to look for him at home.
00:06:08Nobody in the palace knows anything.
00:06:11So, they break down the door.
00:06:17The apartment is in perfect order, clean, as always.
00:06:26But of the owners, no trace.
00:06:31The police are called.
00:06:36The Carrettas, Giuseppe, his wife Marta, housewife, their son Nicola.
00:06:48They had left during the night between August 4th and 5th, with their camper.
00:06:57They had planned a long journey.
00:07:02France, Spain, all the way to North Africa.
00:07:08But since the day of departure, they have not been heard from again.
00:07:14There is still a lot of money in their bank accounts.
00:07:21No significant movement of money.
00:07:25The only sour note.
00:07:29Two samples.
00:07:30dated August 8th.
00:07:34Three days after the Carrettas left.
00:07:38Ferdinando, the eldest son, carried them out.
00:07:45He withdrew 5 million lire from his father's account.
00:07:50Then, another million, from his brother, with checks.
00:08:00He forged the signatures.
00:08:02And he was lucky.
00:08:05Then, on August 8th, he too disappeared into thin air.
00:08:14On November 19th, the camper is tested again.
00:08:20The first to report it was a spectator who saw it.
00:08:26in a phone call, live on TV.
00:08:30A real twist.
00:08:35I've seen this camper for a while now, but I never thought about it again.
00:08:39Then tonight, I mean, I had picked up the numbers to play them on 8, right?
00:08:43Yes.
00:08:44And this evening, since it is always there,
00:08:48and then it's 42, 63, 46.
00:08:51Exact.
00:08:52The police arrive on the scene.
00:08:56The vehicle is parked in the San Vittore area,
00:09:01near the train station.
00:09:04But the solution to the mystery is still far away.
00:09:10There were no signs of forced entry on the camper doors.
00:09:16Inside, everything in order.
00:09:21The furniture.
00:09:23The tapestry.
00:09:25There is nothing to suggest that it was abandoned.
00:09:29If it weren't for the testimonies of those who saw it.
00:09:35Parked at that spot.
00:09:38For months.
00:09:40On a seat, a newspaper.
00:09:44Of August 9th.
00:09:47Four days after the Carrettas' departure.
00:09:54No one can explain why the camper is in Milan.
00:10:01And the hypothesis of an escape of the Carretta family
00:10:04is relaunched by the newspapers.
00:10:09Numerous, ghostly sightings.
00:10:13In Spain.
00:10:14In Venezuela.
00:10:16In the Caribbean.
00:10:18We're talking about slush funds.
00:10:22Managed by Giuseppe Carretta.
00:10:24On behalf of the company.
00:10:26These are fanciful hypotheses.
00:10:30Faint clues.
00:10:31Far from actual evidence.
00:10:36Identikits are released.
00:10:41Giuseppe Carretta's image is altered using a computer.
00:10:45That of his wife Marta.
00:10:49Of his son Nicola.
00:10:52And of Ferdinand.
00:10:55It shows how they were.
00:10:58As they could be.
00:11:01Then, the news disappears.
00:11:05Submerged by many other disappearances.
00:11:09From many other mysteries.
00:11:11For nine long years.
00:11:15In reality, what will be discovered later
00:11:18is that someone,
00:11:20knowingly, he had sown
00:11:24of the false traces of the Carretta family
00:11:29in Venezuela, in Aruba
00:11:31and in other countries in South America
00:11:34for a specific purpose.
00:11:37This person will then be identified.
00:11:40He will say that it was all false.
00:11:44The Carabinieri will discover
00:11:47that in reality those traces
00:11:49which had also ended up in the newspapers
00:11:52they were completely unreliable.
00:12:01London.
00:12:02November 22, 1998.
00:12:06A Pony Express gets fined
00:12:09due to a parking ban.
00:12:11The agents
00:12:12identify the boy.
00:12:15He's Italian.
00:12:16From Parma.
00:12:19Is called
00:12:20Antonio Ferdinando Carretta.
00:12:24He is missing
00:12:25since 1989.
00:12:29The magistrate in charge of the investigation
00:12:32Francesco Saverio Brancaccio
00:12:35fly to London.
00:12:38Question Ferdinando Carretta
00:12:40on his family members.
00:12:43Cart
00:12:44he says he lost track of it
00:12:47for nine years.
00:12:49of not having any more news
00:12:51of the parents
00:12:52and his brother
00:12:53for a long time.
00:12:57But the transmission
00:12:58who saw it
00:12:59who followed the case
00:13:01from the very beginning
00:13:03fly to London
00:13:04and discovers
00:13:06a truth
00:13:07completely different.
00:13:10I took that gun
00:13:12that firearm
00:13:20and I shot
00:13:22to my parents
00:13:22and to my brother.
00:13:24Where did this happen?
00:13:26In the apartment
00:13:28of Via Rimi
00:13:28number 8.
00:13:29For what reason?
00:13:35This was
00:13:36an act of madness
00:13:37an act of madness
00:13:39complete.
00:13:41Had they done something to you?
00:13:43No, nothing.
00:13:46Had there been an argument?
00:13:47No.
00:13:49Isn't there a reason?
00:13:51There is a very specific reason
00:13:53what does it have to do with me
00:13:54with my mental condition
00:13:55of then.
00:14:00At that point
00:14:01what happened?
00:14:04at that point
00:14:08I removed the camper
00:14:10from the house
00:14:16of Via Rimi number 8
00:14:19moving it
00:14:19in one place
00:14:21not far away
00:14:23just to give
00:14:24the impression
00:14:25that the camper
00:14:26is
00:14:27that they had left
00:14:29with the camper.
00:14:35and then
00:14:37and then
00:14:43and then
00:14:46you came home
00:14:47and then
00:14:48I came back home
00:14:56and the bodies
00:15:00for that night
00:15:01they remained
00:15:02in the apartment
00:15:05they remained
00:15:06in the apartment
00:15:10for how long
00:15:11they remained
00:15:12here now
00:15:13for how long
00:15:14Exactly
00:15:15I don't remember
00:15:16for a few days
00:15:16for a few days
00:15:18you are at home
00:15:22as an excuse?
00:15:24during you
00:15:25you stayed
00:15:25at home?
00:15:26Yes
00:15:27I stayed at home
00:15:28Obviously
00:15:28I may have even gone out
00:15:29I don't remember now
00:15:31Exactly
00:15:33but
00:15:34my mental condition
00:15:35I repeat
00:15:36in those days
00:15:36they were the mental conditions
00:15:37of a madman
00:15:38of a madman
00:15:41Ferdinand Carretta
00:15:42and Pietro Maso
00:15:42at first sight
00:15:43they don't seem to have
00:15:44nothing in common
00:15:45if not the fact
00:15:46that at a certain point
00:15:47of their life
00:15:48they decided
00:15:49to kill
00:15:49their parents
00:15:51maybe digging
00:15:52deep
00:15:53the two boys
00:15:53they shared fears
00:15:54and a terrible
00:15:56sense of insecurity
00:15:57Perhaps
00:15:58why to analyze
00:16:00their story
00:16:01the family history
00:16:01where they were born
00:16:02and grown up
00:16:03it's not that they can be done
00:16:04to find many connections
00:16:11name
00:16:12Peter
00:16:13surname
00:16:14Maso
00:16:15last born
00:16:17of three children
00:16:18lives in Montecchia
00:16:20of Crosara
00:16:20after middle school
00:16:23he drops out of school
00:16:25he attends the parish
00:16:27he's playing the clarifier
00:16:28he works
00:16:30at the supermarket
00:16:31of the country
00:16:32Then
00:16:33in a dealership
00:16:34of cars
00:16:35changes jobs often
00:16:37he loves cars
00:16:39the perfumes
00:16:40women
00:16:42and designer clothes
00:16:45he frequents discos
00:16:47play poker
00:16:48loves risk
00:16:50spend money
00:16:52enjoy life
00:16:55it was shameful
00:16:56he was shy
00:16:57he didn't have
00:16:58he didn't look like he was
00:17:00of the bully
00:17:00he didn't have an air
00:17:02arrogant
00:17:03absolutely
00:17:04even when he came
00:17:05from me
00:17:06in the clinic
00:17:06it was always
00:17:07considerate
00:17:08he didn't want to do it
00:17:09the contact
00:17:10like the father
00:17:10he wanted to do something
00:17:12moreover
00:17:12he does not do military service
00:17:16dream of a different future
00:17:18from that of his parents
00:17:21he wants everything
00:17:22and immediately
00:17:23he never showed
00:17:25many emotions
00:17:26Indeed
00:17:27I was talking about
00:17:28lack of affection
00:17:29lack of affection
00:17:30in my opinion it was
00:17:31an element
00:17:31very important
00:17:33Unfortunately
00:17:33to determine it
00:17:35to the crime
00:17:39name
00:17:41Ferdinand
00:17:42surname
00:17:44Cart
00:17:4527 years old
00:17:47unemployed
00:17:49a gun
00:17:51regularly reported
00:17:53lives in Parma
00:17:56with the family
00:17:58the father
00:18:00cashier
00:18:02in a glass company
00:18:04a fussy man
00:18:06scrupulous
00:18:08the mother
00:18:10housewife
00:18:12a trucker brother
00:18:15drug addict
00:18:18positive serum
00:18:22Ferdinand
00:18:23he's a closed type
00:18:25Reserved
00:18:26problematic
00:18:28he has difficulty
00:18:31to make friends
00:18:34in the relationship
00:18:36intergenerational
00:18:38they can be lost
00:18:39many elements
00:18:42that melt
00:18:44almost progressively
00:18:45they dissolve
00:18:46first of all
00:18:48for example
00:18:49let's say
00:18:50communication
00:18:52when the presence
00:18:54it's just
00:18:54a presence
00:18:55of skins
00:18:56that meet
00:18:57during the day
00:18:59for a moment
00:19:00when then
00:19:02it gets lost
00:19:03the affection
00:19:04Meaning what
00:19:05the affection
00:19:06it is no longer expressed
00:19:07it is assumed
00:19:08implicit at the beginning
00:19:09and then slowly
00:19:10this dimension
00:19:12it dries up
00:19:13it gets cold
00:19:15it gets lost
00:19:16even then
00:19:17progressively
00:19:18the capacity
00:19:19to make shine
00:19:21inside
00:19:22of relationships
00:19:23some great values
00:19:24and we are reduced
00:19:26exclusively
00:19:27to things
00:19:28Peter was a boy
00:19:30brilliant
00:19:31at the limit
00:19:31of exhibitionism
00:19:33Ferdinand
00:19:34he was staying apart
00:19:35unable to cultivate
00:19:36friendships
00:19:37and social relationships
00:19:38Peter shared
00:19:40his crime
00:19:40with accomplices
00:19:41he killed together
00:19:42to a group of friends
00:19:43transformed into assassins
00:19:46Ferdinand
00:19:46he did everything
00:19:47alone
00:19:48but it's not enough
00:19:49we have to go down
00:19:50deep
00:19:51to understand
00:19:51if Maso and Carretta
00:19:52in conclusion
00:19:53they look alike
00:19:54or they are
00:19:55completely different
00:20:00Peter Maso
00:20:02born on July 17th
00:20:031971
00:20:05in San Bonifacio
00:20:0726 km from Verona
00:20:09but has always lived
00:20:12in Montecchia
00:20:13of Crosara
00:20:14the Maso family
00:20:16owns land
00:20:18Antonio
00:20:20the father
00:20:21he cultivates them
00:20:23and dedication
00:20:25Tony
00:20:26how can you say
00:20:28here in Montecchia
00:20:29it was a piece of bread
00:20:30he was a good man
00:20:32worker
00:20:34as well as
00:20:35for its changes
00:20:36also as a tertiary sector
00:20:37he did jobs
00:20:37for others too
00:20:38the mother
00:20:39the Rose
00:20:40she was a good woman
00:20:41of housewife
00:20:42he had a small villa
00:20:44it ended well
00:20:45well educated
00:20:48well illustrated
00:20:49In short
00:20:49it was well done
00:20:52it looked like a house
00:20:53from the mirror
00:20:54as it was
00:20:55well done
00:20:58the family
00:20:59lives in a small villa
00:21:01two-story
00:21:01in Via San Pietro
00:21:03a well-kept garden
00:21:05surrounds him
00:21:06Peter Maso
00:21:07he's a boy
00:21:08like many others
00:21:09and like many others
00:21:11to feel strong
00:21:12he needs
00:21:13to show off
00:21:14symbols of wealth
00:21:15just like this
00:21:16he feels important
00:21:18in my interpretation
00:21:21the killing
00:21:22of the parents
00:21:23and the imagination
00:21:24to kill
00:21:25even the sisters
00:21:26all
00:21:27and to be the only one
00:21:28who owns everything
00:21:30I am because I own
00:21:32not because I
00:21:33I have my own personality
00:21:37the money
00:21:39who enters the Maso house
00:21:40it is never spent
00:21:42in a reckless manner
00:21:43every purchase
00:21:44it is weighted
00:21:46and is addressed
00:21:47only if deemed necessary
00:21:49essential
00:21:52only exception
00:21:53to the rule
00:21:54the male child
00:21:56to him
00:21:57everything is allowed
00:22:01Maso was the son
00:22:03of those parents
00:22:05That
00:22:05experienced
00:22:06objectively
00:22:07they had
00:22:08of great responsibilities
00:22:10in what happened
00:22:11in the sense that
00:22:12they spoiled him
00:22:13very much
00:22:13they have never been
00:22:16taxes
00:22:16When
00:22:17he didn't want to study
00:22:18All right
00:22:19patience
00:22:20he worked
00:22:21but he left his job
00:22:22patience
00:22:23found another job
00:22:24and he withdrew
00:22:26patience
00:22:27they needed them
00:22:2850 thousand lire per day
00:22:29here they are
00:22:30somehow
00:22:31the parents
00:22:32it had been a long time
00:22:32who were worried
00:22:34of behavior
00:22:36of the boy
00:22:37of the expenses
00:22:38what he was doing
00:22:39of the companies
00:22:40who frequented
00:22:41of the fact that he had bought it
00:22:43a car
00:22:44the boy
00:22:46can always have
00:22:47what he wants
00:22:50loves to wear
00:22:51designer clothes
00:22:54the meeting place
00:22:56and aggregation
00:22:57of Montecchia
00:22:58of Crosara
00:22:58it's a small bar
00:23:00in the center of the country
00:23:02the bar
00:23:03John
00:23:03and in that environment
00:23:05everyone plays a part
00:23:08everyone
00:23:09they have a position
00:23:10hierarchical
00:23:11well defined
00:23:12you have to be successful
00:23:14above all
00:23:15money
00:23:17and women
00:23:19Peter
00:23:20has always had
00:23:21the money
00:23:21what is needed
00:23:22at the bar
00:23:23we play cards
00:23:26sit at the green table
00:23:27it's a sign of power
00:23:31luck
00:23:32he's always on my side
00:23:33in every sense
00:23:34I took a risk
00:23:36many times
00:23:36a death
00:23:37for example
00:23:37in the car
00:23:38in certain overtakings
00:23:39but I was sure
00:23:41that didn't happen to me
00:23:42never anything
00:23:42I have never considered
00:23:44that something could happen to me
00:23:46never
00:23:49Peter
00:23:49he's also good at billiards
00:23:51and then
00:23:53there is the disco
00:23:54the opportunity
00:23:55to be seen
00:23:56accompanied
00:23:57from beautiful girls
00:23:58but for all this
00:24:00a lot of money is needed
00:24:03more and more
00:24:05in the month of November
00:24:061990
00:24:07it came to mind
00:24:09to lead
00:24:09a brilliant life
00:24:10and then
00:24:11I needed them
00:24:12a lot of money
00:24:13but to have this money
00:24:15the only possible solution
00:24:16it was that
00:24:17to have immediately
00:24:18the legacy
00:24:18the legacy
00:24:20that was due to me
00:24:20after death
00:24:21of my parents
00:24:24moreover
00:24:24I would have liked it
00:24:25Also
00:24:26to have it whole
00:24:27and not having to
00:24:28split
00:24:29with my sisters
00:24:29to do this
00:24:31I should have
00:24:31kill them too
00:24:35after about two weeks
00:24:37I expressed
00:24:38this idea
00:24:38of my friends
00:24:39in particular
00:24:39to my dearest friend
00:24:41George
00:24:42one day
00:24:43while we were together
00:24:45I told him
00:24:45who knew
00:24:46a system
00:24:46to make a lot of money
00:24:48and it consisted
00:24:49in eliminating
00:24:49of people
00:24:53George
00:24:54he remained perplexed
00:24:57but then
00:24:58he embraced the idea
00:24:59and I confided in him
00:25:00that people
00:25:00to be suppressed
00:25:01they were my parents
00:25:02and then
00:25:03following
00:25:04of their death
00:25:05I would have inherited
00:25:06my part
00:25:09this idea
00:25:10it was then extended
00:25:11to another too
00:25:12my friend
00:25:12Paul
00:25:13as
00:25:14to complete
00:25:15the work
00:25:15we were not enough
00:25:17only two
00:25:18after some hesitation
00:25:20Paul also accepted
00:25:22on the occasion
00:25:24we were there
00:25:25even already agreed upon
00:25:26with another friend
00:25:27Damiano
00:25:32we had decided
00:25:33to give credit
00:25:33to the crime
00:25:34the day
00:25:34in which
00:25:35my parents
00:25:36they would have returned
00:25:37from the usual meeting
00:25:38around 11pm
00:25:43the expertise
00:25:45ordered on appeal
00:25:46from the court
00:25:47of the appeal site
00:25:48has established
00:25:49that there was a relationship
00:25:50of dependence
00:25:51of the others
00:25:52towards
00:25:53by Maso
00:25:53the flu
00:25:54negative
00:25:55he did yes
00:25:55that the capacity
00:25:57to understand
00:25:57to want
00:25:58of the others too
00:25:59each of which
00:26:00he had a problem of his own
00:26:01staff
00:26:02was high
00:26:03and then
00:26:04they thought
00:26:05that everyone
00:26:06and three
00:26:06the three adults
00:26:08were
00:26:08partially
00:26:11incapable
00:26:12to understand
00:26:12to want
00:26:18wanting everything
00:26:19and immediately
00:26:20it's a distortion
00:26:20common
00:26:21in the Western world
00:26:22non-exclusive
00:26:23of Montechieri
00:26:24Crossing
00:26:24and surroundings
00:26:26Perhaps
00:26:27the responsibilities
00:26:27of the parents
00:26:28they are more important
00:26:29in history
00:26:30by Ferdinand
00:26:31with him
00:26:32mom and dad
00:26:32they committed
00:26:33some mistakes
00:26:33they underestimated
00:26:35the son's discomfort
00:26:36they thought
00:26:37that that boy
00:26:37misfit
00:26:38without friends
00:26:39without a job
00:26:40sooner or later
00:26:41he would have recovered
00:26:42on the road
00:26:43would have found
00:26:44its own balance
00:26:46serious errors
00:26:46even if in good faith
00:26:48paid errors
00:26:49with life
00:26:55When
00:26:56I speak
00:26:57with Ferdinando Carretta
00:26:59and he confesses to me
00:27:00everything
00:27:01and in the following days
00:27:03checking
00:27:03through questions
00:27:04that all that
00:27:05that he had told me
00:27:05it was all true
00:27:06but I
00:27:06from the first moment
00:27:07I believed it
00:27:10for me
00:27:11they came out
00:27:12two situations
00:27:14that is, on one side
00:27:15I knew that
00:27:17for me it was one thing
00:27:18important
00:27:19I had a truth
00:27:20that no one
00:27:21the world knew
00:27:22on the other side
00:27:24with the same weight
00:27:26and I don't hide it
00:27:27to say it
00:27:28even more
00:27:29the fear that
00:27:31Ferdinand
00:27:31could do
00:27:32a nonsense
00:27:33that is me
00:27:34during those days
00:27:35what I was telling myself
00:27:36what I was saying
00:27:38to myself
00:27:38it's that I had to
00:27:39survive
00:27:40to this story
00:27:42today after
00:27:42ten years
00:27:43tell that
00:27:45what had happened
00:27:46that night
00:27:49the police
00:27:50he will also go home
00:27:52but he won't find
00:27:52no trace
00:27:53of the bodies
00:27:54nor signs
00:27:56Of
00:27:56nor trace
00:27:58of blood
00:28:01what did you do
00:28:02of those bodies
00:28:04the bodies
00:28:05I am
00:28:06I am
00:28:06I am
00:28:06I am
00:28:06remained
00:28:07in the apartment
00:28:10and then
00:28:11and then I searched
00:28:13as best I could
00:28:15to eliminate
00:28:16every trace
00:28:19to eliminate
00:28:20Everything is fine
00:28:21every trace
00:28:21Of
00:28:22blood
00:28:23boxwood
00:28:23these things here
00:28:24at that point
00:28:26the bodies
00:28:26and to clean
00:28:28the apartment
00:28:28as best I could
00:28:29in a way
00:28:30not to leave
00:28:30trace
00:28:33you loaded yourself
00:28:34on a medium
00:28:38well yes
00:28:39the bodies
00:28:39after a few days
00:28:40have been uploaded
00:28:44on the car
00:28:45of my father
00:28:47have been uploaded
00:28:48on the car
00:28:49of my father
00:28:49Certain
00:28:50and you brought them
00:28:51and they were brought
00:28:52from you
00:28:53somewhere
00:28:54Where
00:28:55somewhere
00:28:56Certain
00:28:58once
00:28:59this operation is finished
00:29:00what's happening
00:29:01to
00:29:01to
00:29:03Fernando
00:29:03What are you doing
00:29:04All right
00:29:08after the bodies
00:29:09they were
00:29:10precisely brought
00:29:12in a place
00:29:13very precise
00:29:18me obviously
00:29:19I want to escape
00:29:20In short
00:29:24And
00:29:27what do I do
00:29:30I take a check
00:29:31of my brother
00:29:32a check
00:29:33of my father
00:29:35I write on it
00:29:36for each check
00:29:37the maximum amount
00:29:39that I can cash in
00:29:41in one day
00:29:41which was
00:29:42what I think
00:29:42of 5 million
00:29:43of my father
00:29:43and 1 million
00:29:44of my brother
00:29:45and of course
00:29:46I put two fake signatures
00:29:51and then obviously
00:29:53I take these checks
00:29:54I cash them in
00:29:57and now
00:29:57I don't remember
00:29:58if the same day
00:29:59if the same day
00:30:03but
00:30:08it could have been
00:30:09a few days
00:30:09but on this
00:30:10I'm not sure
00:30:11Therefore
00:30:13in addition to having
00:30:13teaching house
00:30:14I renew my
00:30:15identity card
00:30:17and of course
00:30:18I leave cloth
00:30:24the sensational confession
00:30:27by Ferdinando Carretta
00:30:29must be verified
00:30:32it is necessary to establish
00:30:34if what he told
00:30:36corresponds to the truth
00:30:38the task
00:30:40is entrusted
00:30:42at the RIS of Parma
00:30:43it's an operation
00:30:45very difficult
00:30:47have passed
00:30:49nine years
00:30:52the Carretta house
00:30:54in the meantime
00:30:55it was rented
00:30:57those rooms
00:30:59they were inhabited
00:31:01clean
00:31:03countless times
00:31:05find the tracks
00:31:07of a murder
00:31:08traces of dust
00:31:09from shooting
00:31:10blood stains
00:31:12it seems impossible
00:31:16the RIS agents
00:31:18they start from the premises
00:31:20where Ferdinando Carretta
00:31:22he says he killed
00:31:24the closet
00:31:27the kitchen
00:31:29is used
00:31:31luminol
00:31:32a chemical compound
00:31:35that in contact
00:31:37with hemoglobin
00:31:38of the blood
00:31:39develops
00:31:40a luminescence
00:31:41electric blue
00:31:42but the outcome
00:31:45it's negative
00:31:48Then
00:31:49the agents
00:31:51they concentrate
00:31:52on the bathroom
00:31:53the place
00:31:55is being examined
00:31:56in detail
00:31:57Cart
00:31:59he declared
00:32:00of having put
00:32:01the family members
00:32:02in the tub
00:32:02into the water
00:32:05to maintain the bodies
00:32:07sheltered
00:32:08from the summer heat
00:32:10on the string
00:32:12of the shower
00:32:13is found
00:32:14the first sign
00:32:15the fiber
00:32:18contains
00:32:19a brownish spot
00:32:20of a couple
00:32:21of centimeters
00:32:22it's blood
00:32:29Then
00:32:29it is dismantled
00:32:31the soap dish
00:32:33at the base
00:32:34of the tray
00:32:35of porcelain
00:32:36under the support
00:32:38wooden
00:32:40protected
00:32:41from the sketches
00:32:42of the shower
00:32:43the agents
00:32:45they find
00:32:46a long one
00:32:46brown mustache
00:32:48of blood
00:32:51the analyses
00:32:52laboratory
00:32:53they indicate
00:32:55a mixture
00:32:56of blood
00:32:57male
00:32:58and feminine
00:33:01everything comes back
00:33:03only missing
00:33:04the comparison
00:33:05with DNA
00:33:06of the victims
00:33:08but the bodies
00:33:10I'm never
00:33:11were found
00:33:12the process
00:33:14of identification
00:33:14it's a process
00:33:15of comparison
00:33:16DNA
00:33:17It can be useful
00:33:17to the utmost
00:33:18in a track
00:33:18of blood
00:33:19to understand
00:33:19if male
00:33:20or females
00:33:20but in general
00:33:21when we talk
00:33:22of identification
00:33:23genetics
00:33:23we're talking
00:33:24of a comparison
00:33:25between a profile
00:33:26genetic
00:33:26and another
00:33:27genetic profile
00:33:28for example
00:33:29the genetic profile
00:33:29which comes from
00:33:30from a track
00:33:30blood
00:33:31and the genetic profile
00:33:32of a suspect
00:33:33at this point
00:33:35the identification
00:33:36it will be possible to carry out
00:33:37just comparing
00:33:39how close are they
00:33:40these two profiles
00:33:41with also
00:33:41of statistical calculations
00:33:43what damage
00:33:43a certainty
00:33:44very high
00:33:46on the result
00:33:47but
00:33:48it's an investigation
00:33:49simply comparative
00:33:50without end
00:33:51of comparison
00:33:52Often
00:33:53it's useless
00:33:54try to extract
00:33:55DNA
00:33:55from a substrate
00:33:56biological
00:34:00the corpses
00:34:01of the family
00:34:02Cart
00:34:03they are being searched for
00:34:05in the landfill
00:34:06of Rolo Street
00:34:06where Ferdinand
00:34:08he says he is gone
00:34:10freed
00:34:12are being scanned
00:34:14tons
00:34:15of waste
00:34:16but it's a feat
00:34:18impossible
00:34:19after so many years
00:34:21away
00:34:23the test
00:34:24of DNA
00:34:24it is done
00:34:26exhuming
00:34:27the bodies
00:34:28of the grandparents
00:34:28by Ferdinand
00:34:29and with a comparison
00:34:31on DNA
00:34:32of the aunts
00:34:34the analyses
00:34:36confirm
00:34:36the blood
00:34:38found in the bathroom
00:34:39of Rimini Street
00:34:40it is compatible
00:34:41with that
00:34:42of the Carrettas
00:34:44Ferdinand
00:34:45he said
00:34:46the truth
00:34:53Ferdinand
00:34:54Cart
00:34:54he killed
00:34:54his father
00:34:55his mother
00:34:56and his brother
00:34:57he did it
00:34:58because he felt
00:34:59oppressed
00:35:00above all
00:35:00from his father
00:35:02oppressed
00:35:02really
00:35:03on a physical level
00:35:04slowly slowly
00:35:05the thoughts
00:35:05by Ferdinand
00:35:06they organized themselves
00:35:07in a delirium
00:35:08a delirium
00:35:09strangely shaped
00:35:11Ferdinand
00:35:12had started
00:35:13to warn
00:35:13that his body
00:35:14was changing
00:35:15he saw the abdomen
00:35:16the face
00:35:17swell
00:35:18and deflate
00:35:19it was happening to him
00:35:20something terrible
00:35:21to do something
00:35:22right away
00:35:24he had bought
00:35:25a gun
00:35:26a small one
00:35:26automatic
00:35:27Walter
00:35:276.35 caliber
00:35:29and had hit
00:35:30at the first opportunity
00:35:37I'm not in pain
00:35:38family from Parma
00:35:39as there are
00:35:40many others
00:35:40which unfortunately
00:35:42he had bad luck
00:35:43to find
00:35:44a son like me
00:35:46That
00:35:47instead of facing
00:35:50the very serious problems
00:35:52who had
00:35:52in one
00:35:56let's say
00:35:57in a way
00:35:58acceptable
00:35:58getting treatment
00:35:59from a psychologist
00:36:00from someone
00:36:01he preferred
00:36:05I repeat
00:36:07to give vent
00:36:08to his instincts
00:36:09more bestial
00:36:10and then
00:36:13to the aspects
00:36:14more diabolical
00:36:15of his mind
00:36:18thus solving
00:36:19these problems
00:36:20downloading
00:36:20precisely
00:36:21these problems
00:36:23that I had
00:36:24about them
00:36:25on
00:36:25about my family
00:36:28Here you are
00:36:29about my brother
00:36:29my father
00:36:30my father
00:36:30my father
00:36:31they were awake
00:36:33Yes
00:36:34if they noticed me
00:36:36of that
00:36:37what was happening
00:36:37Certain
00:36:40Certain
00:36:50they were surprised
00:36:52it was a thing
00:36:53Yes
00:36:54they remained for a moment
00:36:55Certain
00:36:55they were surprised
00:37:01Certain
00:37:01Certain
00:37:05it really seems like it
00:37:06that Ferdinando Carretta
00:37:07belongs
00:37:08to the third category
00:37:09of parricides
00:37:10that is to say
00:37:11that of the madmen
00:37:12at least that way
00:37:13appears whoever meets him
00:37:15he made us lose
00:37:16his tracks
00:37:17for years
00:37:17and when by chance
00:37:19is discovered
00:37:19or identified
00:37:20his attitude
00:37:21it leaves you perplexed
00:37:23he has strange quirks
00:37:24like that one
00:37:25to eat
00:37:25only of food
00:37:26canned
00:37:27they call him for this
00:37:28team man
00:37:29the can man
00:37:30but it's not about
00:37:31only of obsessions
00:37:32of phobias
00:37:33there is more
00:37:34that makes you feel uncomfortable
00:37:35who meets him
00:37:36for psychiatrists
00:37:37it's easy to find
00:37:38a name for that
00:37:39characteristic
00:37:40is called
00:37:41emotional flattening
00:37:43it means that
00:37:43the thought
00:37:44and the words
00:37:45used to express it
00:37:46they are not carried
00:37:47behind liveliness
00:37:48and emotions
00:37:50it is often a symptom
00:37:51of psychosis
00:37:52but it's still early
00:37:53to be sure
00:37:54but it's already important
00:37:56record his behavior
00:37:57fix it in memory
00:37:59maybe it will help
00:38:00later to the judges
00:38:01and also to specialists
00:38:03if requested
00:38:04an expert opinion
00:38:11November 15, 1999
00:38:13Parma
00:38:15assize court
00:38:17of appeal
00:38:18Ferdinand Carretta
00:38:21is recognized
00:38:22guilty
00:38:23of the murder
00:38:24of the parents
00:38:25and his younger brother
00:38:27but he is acquitted
00:38:29because totally
00:38:31unable
00:38:32to understand
00:38:33and want
00:38:34the assize court
00:38:35seen the articles
00:38:3688 Criminal Code
00:38:37530 code
00:38:39criminal procedure
00:38:40absolve
00:38:41Cart
00:38:41Ferdinand
00:38:42from crimes
00:38:42ascribed
00:38:43as
00:38:44clerks
00:38:44from person
00:38:45not attributable
00:38:46by vice
00:38:47total of mind
00:38:51according to the expert opinion
00:38:53psychiatric
00:38:54at the time
00:38:55of the facts
00:38:56Ferdinand
00:38:57Cart
00:38:58presented
00:38:58a psychosis
00:38:59schizophrenic
00:39:00characterized
00:39:03from delirium
00:39:03with ideas
00:39:05paranoids
00:39:06and false
00:39:08perceptions
00:39:09of reality
00:39:09a painting
00:39:12caused
00:39:13from a disorder
00:39:14evolutionary
00:39:15from a situation
00:39:17of isolation
00:39:19social
00:39:19from the absence
00:39:22of relationships
00:39:23adequate
00:39:23among the members
00:39:25of the family
00:39:27Cart
00:39:28had developed
00:39:30a personality
00:39:31from the features
00:39:32obsessive
00:39:33compulsive
00:39:34subsequently
00:39:35evolved
00:39:37in psychosis
00:39:37delirious
00:39:40schizophrenia
00:39:41it's a genre
00:39:42psychopathological
00:39:43very large
00:39:44which includes
00:39:45various demonstrations
00:39:46the paranoid one
00:39:47arises from the fact
00:39:49that I need
00:39:50to check
00:39:51All
00:39:51in a rigorous manner
00:39:52All
00:39:53All
00:39:54All
00:39:54it means
00:39:55absolutely everything
00:39:55and since
00:39:57something is escaping me
00:39:58not being able to
00:39:59admit
00:40:00that others
00:40:01they are persecutors
00:40:03that they did to me
00:40:05some jokes
00:40:05or they understand me
00:40:06of the attacks
00:40:11the boy from Parma
00:40:13he is a person
00:40:15socially
00:40:16dangerous
00:40:17for Ferdinand
00:40:19Cart
00:40:20they open
00:40:21the doors
00:40:22of the hospital
00:40:22psychiatric
00:40:23from Castiglione
00:40:25of the Stiviere
00:40:25it will remain there
00:40:27for five years
00:40:31it took years
00:40:33before the delirium
00:40:34invaded
00:40:35the mind
00:40:35by Ferdinand
00:40:36Cart
00:40:36before the discomfort
00:40:38the anguish
00:40:39the fears
00:40:39they took
00:40:40a meaning
00:40:41clear
00:40:42if he was sick
00:40:43it was my fault
00:40:44of his father
00:40:44and maybe
00:40:46of the whole family
00:40:47impossible to say
00:40:48when he thought
00:40:49for the first time
00:40:50that the only solution
00:40:51to live
00:40:51it was that
00:40:52to exterminate
00:40:53his own family
00:40:55Maso instead
00:40:55his projects
00:40:56murders
00:40:56he told them
00:40:57and they had begun
00:40:59several months
00:41:00before the attack
00:41:01mortal
00:41:07Peter Maso
00:41:08he imagined
00:41:09a thousand times
00:41:10to exterminate
00:41:11your
00:41:12has only one goal
00:41:14the legacy
00:41:16March 3
00:41:181991
00:41:19he tried
00:41:21to blow up
00:41:22in the air
00:41:23the family home
00:41:24when everyone
00:41:26I'm in the villa
00:41:27the parents
00:41:29the two sisters
00:41:30the brother-in-law
00:41:31it looks like a plan
00:41:33Perfect
00:41:33two are enough
00:41:35gas cylinders
00:41:36and a light
00:41:37psychedelic
00:41:38operated
00:41:39from a timer
00:41:39to trigger
00:41:41an explosion
00:41:42Peter
00:41:43system
00:41:44some clothes
00:41:45in the fireplace
00:41:46wants to prevent
00:41:48every leak
00:41:49of air
00:41:50but something
00:41:51it doesn't work
00:41:52in the right direction
00:41:55around 9:30 pm
00:41:57my father
00:41:58feeling
00:41:59a strange one
00:42:00ticking
00:42:00to arrive
00:42:01from the tavern
00:42:02he went
00:42:02to check
00:42:06he had seen
00:42:06an alarm clock
00:42:07clock
00:42:07episode
00:42:08around 9:30 pm
00:42:09there were also
00:42:10of the lights
00:42:11psychedelic
00:42:11with a box
00:42:12red
00:42:13and the lamps
00:42:14blue
00:42:14that were flashing
00:42:17I had put
00:42:18then two cylinders
00:42:19gas
00:42:19large in size
00:42:21I remember
00:42:22that both
00:42:22my parents
00:42:23they were very
00:42:24scared
00:42:26my father
00:42:27had brought
00:42:27in the garden
00:42:28the two cylinders
00:42:29before they exploded
00:42:32Peter
00:42:33he's coming back home
00:42:34after midnight
00:42:35the father
00:42:36he asks him
00:42:37explanations
00:42:38the boy
00:42:40he justifies himself
00:42:42he says that
00:42:43the two cylinders
00:42:43they served
00:42:44to feed
00:42:45some little stoves
00:42:46gas
00:42:46to warm up
00:42:48the environment
00:42:49during a party
00:42:52some time
00:42:53After
00:42:53farm
00:42:54he's in the car
00:42:55with the mother
00:42:56It's Saturday
00:42:57they are going
00:42:59to speak
00:43:00with the employer
00:43:00of work
00:43:01of the boy
00:43:02the woman
00:43:04he wants to make sure
00:43:05that the sudden
00:43:06availability
00:43:07of money
00:43:08be the fruit
00:43:09of the sale
00:43:09of a car
00:43:10as he claims
00:43:11the son
00:43:11Peter
00:43:13he is driving
00:43:14next to him
00:43:15his mother
00:43:16on the seat
00:43:18rear
00:43:18Giorgio Carbonin
00:43:20a friend
00:43:22it's him
00:43:23which must hit
00:43:24with a meat tenderizer
00:43:25the woman
00:43:26and he has to kill her
00:43:27Then
00:43:29they would have put it
00:43:30in the trunk
00:43:31of the machine
00:43:32and they would be
00:43:33returned home
00:43:35here
00:43:36they would have attracted
00:43:38with an excuse
00:43:39the father
00:43:40in the garage
00:43:41and they would have
00:43:43killed
00:43:43him too
00:43:47to make it disappear
00:43:48the tracks
00:43:49the machine
00:43:50with the two
00:43:51corpses
00:43:51it would have been
00:43:53precipitated
00:43:54from a cliff
00:43:56Giorgio though
00:43:57he can't find
00:43:58courage
00:43:59to kill
00:43:59and again
00:44:02the garage
00:44:04of Casamasu
00:44:04here
00:44:06Peter and George
00:44:07they would like to bring down
00:44:09one at a time
00:44:10all family members
00:44:12of Peter
00:44:14and then kill them
00:44:16with a crowbar
00:44:17iron
00:44:24but this time too
00:44:25Giorgio Carbonino
00:44:27he backs out
00:44:30Peter
00:44:31he will also confess
00:44:32of having attempted
00:44:33to hire
00:44:34a hitman
00:44:34to eliminate
00:44:36his parents
00:44:38the parricide
00:44:40it's a figure
00:44:41anthropological
00:44:42very ancient
00:44:42present in the Greek world
00:44:45present in the Jewish world
00:44:46I'm talking about these two cultures
00:44:47because they are the sources
00:44:48of Western culture
00:44:50but present
00:44:51even in primitive tribes
00:44:53where you kill yourself
00:44:54the king
00:44:54who is the father
00:44:55of the whole tribe
00:44:56ritually
00:44:57and periodically
00:44:58in the sense
00:45:00That
00:45:00the company
00:45:02can go on
00:45:03only
00:45:03if
00:45:04the generation
00:45:05next
00:45:06succeeds
00:45:06metaphorically
00:45:07to kill the father
00:45:08this was
00:45:10well described
00:45:11from Freud
00:45:11in his
00:45:12illustration
00:45:13of the complex
00:45:13of Oedipus
00:45:14where the son
00:45:15he wants to kill
00:45:16the father
00:45:16to go to bed
00:45:17with jokes
00:45:18these
00:45:19like people
00:45:20he believes whether they are
00:45:21because through
00:45:22the killing of the father
00:45:24there is the report
00:45:25of the
00:45:25I want to be
00:45:27man like you
00:45:28as well as
00:45:29in the relationship
00:45:30with the mother
00:45:30I want to get my bearings
00:45:32to the female world
00:45:33to express
00:45:35my manhood
00:45:35so they are things
00:45:36very important
00:45:37but
00:45:38the killing of the father
00:45:39it's a story
00:45:39very ancient
00:45:40and it is
00:45:41somehow
00:45:43physiological
00:45:43who does not kill the father
00:45:45remains a son
00:45:46forever
00:45:47and then
00:45:48remains a person
00:45:49not emancipated
00:45:51if then from here
00:45:51we pass by
00:45:52to the actual killing
00:45:53of the father
00:45:54then it means
00:45:55that was not achieved
00:45:56to do this process
00:45:57of emancipation
00:45:59belong to a group
00:46:01over the years
00:46:02of adolescence
00:46:03belong to a group
00:46:04it's something
00:46:04of fundamental
00:46:06the group represents
00:46:07a space of autonomy
00:46:08between the family
00:46:10where you come from
00:46:11and the role of adults
00:46:12to which one is destined
00:46:14a space
00:46:15in which to recognize oneself
00:46:16to put to the test
00:46:18the estimate
00:46:18in themselves
00:46:19through
00:46:20the meaning
00:46:21of belonging
00:46:23it's so vital
00:46:24the need
00:46:25to be accepted
00:46:26that sometimes
00:46:27belong to a group
00:46:28it's even more important
00:46:30that shares
00:46:31the ideals
00:46:38Giorgio Carbonin
00:46:39born on September 22nd
00:46:411972
00:46:44lives in Montecchia
00:46:46of Crosara
00:46:46it's the last one
00:46:48of four children
00:46:49in the village
00:46:50the Carbonin family
00:46:52it is known
00:46:53they work
00:46:54they go to church
00:46:55they are good people
00:46:57the father
00:46:58has a small plot of land
00:47:00and he's a farmer
00:47:01the mother
00:47:02she is a housewife
00:47:03help her husband
00:47:05in the fields
00:47:05he takes care of
00:47:06of animals
00:47:08finished middle school
00:47:10George
00:47:11start working
00:47:12as a clerk
00:47:13in a supermarket
00:47:14his salary
00:47:16is put
00:47:17available
00:47:18of the family
00:47:18George
00:47:20he's playing the clarifier
00:47:21he is punctual
00:47:22to the rites
00:47:23and to the activities
00:47:24of the parish
00:47:25but he wants
00:47:27a different future
00:47:28he doesn't want to do it
00:47:29the farmer
00:47:30he wants to escape
00:47:31from that world
00:47:32which he considers ancient
00:47:34because of this
00:47:36it ties up
00:47:37to Pietro Maso
00:47:38that promises
00:47:39new things
00:47:40things never seen before
00:47:43George
00:47:43decides to buy himself
00:47:45a car
00:47:45he chooses it
00:47:47the reservation
00:47:49coast
00:47:5023 million
00:47:51and they serve
00:47:52in cash
00:47:53he is addressing
00:47:55to a bank
00:47:56which grants him
00:47:57the loan
00:47:58his employer
00:47:59of work
00:48:00he acts as guarantor for him
00:48:02but the parents
00:48:04shy people
00:48:05and reserved
00:48:06they don't want
00:48:07that the son
00:48:08buy that car
00:48:09showy
00:48:10and flashy
00:48:12Giorgio then
00:48:13cancel the order
00:48:14but instead
00:48:15to return
00:48:16the money
00:48:17to the bank
00:48:17decide
00:48:19together with Peter
00:48:20to keep it
00:48:22the two young people
00:48:24they squander
00:48:25the entire sum
00:48:26in a month
00:48:28they offer drinks
00:48:29to everyone
00:48:30they flaunt wealth
00:48:32they make bets
00:48:33ever higher
00:48:34to the game
00:48:36they go out every night
00:48:37like a girl
00:48:38different
00:48:38they buy clothes
00:48:40they frequent
00:48:42bars and nightclubs
00:48:43for Giorgio
00:48:44it's the period
00:48:45happier
00:48:46of his life
00:48:48to weld
00:48:49the debt
00:48:50of the friend
00:48:50with the bank
00:48:51Peter
00:48:52decides to falsify
00:48:54the signature
00:48:54of the mother
00:48:55on a check
00:48:57but now
00:48:58we need to eliminate
00:49:00the mother
00:49:02as soon as possible
00:49:05before he realizes
00:49:06of the theft
00:49:09they arrived
00:49:10at a certain point
00:49:11in the final stage
00:49:12after a few months
00:49:12when the forgery
00:49:14of a check
00:49:15of the mother
00:49:16by Maso
00:49:17for a purchase
00:49:18of a machine
00:49:19what he had done
00:49:20carbonin
00:49:21with a withdrawal
00:49:22of money
00:49:23that Maso
00:49:23had to return
00:49:24he made it fall
00:49:25things
00:49:25we come to know
00:49:27which had been
00:49:28placed on collection
00:49:29a check
00:49:29from 25 million
00:49:30of lire
00:49:31which brought
00:49:31the false signature
00:49:32of the lady
00:49:33to weave
00:49:34of the mother
00:49:34by Pietro Maso
00:49:35and this
00:49:35in our opinion
00:49:36it was the reason
00:49:38unwrapping
00:49:38for which the murder
00:49:39had been committed
00:49:40and then
00:49:42we reconvene
00:49:42all the boys
00:49:43in the barracks
00:49:44in San Bonifacio
00:49:45we keep them separate
00:49:46and let's start again
00:49:47the interrogations
00:49:48they enter the scene
00:49:51two other accomplices
00:49:52Paul Cavazza
00:49:54and Damiano Burato
00:49:55Paul Cavazza
00:49:57he seems like a good guy
00:49:59him too
00:50:00he's an altar boy
00:50:01him too
00:50:03after school
00:50:04of the obligation
00:50:04start working
00:50:06him too
00:50:08he wants to do
00:50:09the good life
00:50:11the father
00:50:12the mother
00:50:14she is a housewife
00:50:15he has four brothers
00:50:17Paolo is a bricklayer
00:50:19the worker
00:50:20the clerk
00:50:21but his dream
00:50:23is to make a career
00:50:25in the army
00:50:25knows Peter
00:50:27at school
00:50:28for some time
00:50:29they work together
00:50:30at the supermarket
00:50:31Paul
00:50:33it's different
00:50:34from his friends
00:50:34he is insecure
00:50:36a shy one
00:50:37a weakling
00:50:40then there is Damiano Burato
00:50:42a minor at the time
00:50:44after school
00:50:45of the obligation
00:50:46attend a course
00:50:47professional
00:50:48Then
00:50:49he works as a laborer
00:50:51in his free time
00:50:52go around town
00:50:53with the motorbike
00:50:54he frequents the John bar
00:50:56together with his friends
00:50:58in his garage
00:51:00the boys gather together
00:51:02to listen to music
00:51:04the neighbors
00:51:05they often complain
00:51:06but his father
00:51:07justifies it
00:51:08and protects it
00:51:12the pack
00:51:13denotes
00:51:14the weakness
00:51:15of individuals
00:51:16which constitute
00:51:17this group
00:51:18in the sense that
00:51:19we must consider
00:51:20that all actions
00:51:21violent
00:51:22all actions
00:51:22destructive
00:51:23they arise from a perception
00:51:25of one's own weakness
00:51:26individual
00:51:27that's why I need it
00:51:28of many beings
00:51:29for the purpose
00:51:30to realize
00:51:31or to express
00:51:33that which alone
00:51:34I couldn't express it
00:51:35every pack
00:51:36it is all the more violent
00:51:38how much the individual components
00:51:40I am psychologically
00:51:41weak
00:51:43Peter Maso
00:51:44Georgia Carbonini
00:51:45and Paolo Cavazza
00:51:46they built
00:51:47together with Damiano Burato
00:51:49a minor at the time
00:51:50a criminal group
00:51:52a criminal group
00:51:52Perfect
00:51:53Peter
00:51:54he is the leader
00:51:55right in force
00:51:56of his pathology
00:51:57of his narcissism
00:51:58which leads him to exhibit
00:51:59to show off
00:52:00to act
00:52:02George
00:52:03Paul
00:52:03and Damiano
00:52:04due to immaturity
00:52:04they are the ideal companions
00:52:07but it's wrong
00:52:08think
00:52:08that the three
00:52:09they are only
00:52:09a support
00:52:11because their
00:52:12admiration
00:52:12it is essential
00:52:13to Peter
00:52:14that otherwise
00:52:15he would find himself
00:52:16alone in front of a mirror
00:52:17to see what really is
00:52:19an average boy
00:52:21uneducated
00:52:22unable to find himself
00:52:24and keep a good job
00:52:25just a parasite
00:52:27that makes itself beautiful
00:52:28with the parents' money
00:52:35it is read
00:52:36in the psychiatric assessment
00:52:38by Pietro Maso
00:52:40suffering from disorder
00:52:42narcissistic
00:52:43of personality
00:52:44a pervasive modality
00:52:46of grandeur
00:52:48in fantasy
00:52:49and in behavior
00:52:50of hypersensitivity
00:52:53to the judgment of others
00:52:54and lack
00:52:56of empathy
00:52:57is present
00:52:58from early age
00:52:59to the adult one
00:53:00the people
00:53:02with this disorder
00:53:03they have a grand meaning
00:53:06of self-esteem
00:53:12Peter Maso
00:53:13perceives
00:53:14only himself
00:53:15the others
00:53:17I am a reality
00:53:19only when they enter
00:53:20in contact with him
00:53:21for Maso
00:53:23everything revolves
00:53:25around him
00:53:27the others
00:53:28they are just tools
00:53:31they serve
00:53:32for your satisfaction
00:53:34staff
00:53:34therefore
00:53:36everything
00:53:37it is possible
00:53:39Maso
00:53:40he is incapable
00:53:42to love
00:53:42to consider
00:53:44the others
00:53:45people
00:53:48I disturb
00:53:49narcissistic
00:53:50of personality
00:53:51of degree
00:53:52mild
00:53:53medium
00:53:53aggravated
00:53:55from the environment
00:53:56family
00:53:57and social
00:53:57where he lived
00:54:00the parents
00:54:02they were not
00:54:03capable
00:54:03to contain
00:54:04its
00:54:05continuous requests
00:54:06favoring it
00:54:08the drift
00:54:09narcissistic
00:54:14Giorgio Carbonin
00:54:16he is his accomplice
00:54:17ideal
00:54:18it is read
00:54:20in the expertise
00:54:21affection
00:54:23from disturbance
00:54:24employee
00:54:25of personality
00:54:26founded
00:54:28on the bond
00:54:29of love
00:54:29which has established
00:54:31with Peter
00:54:31Giorgio Carbonin
00:54:34is inclined
00:54:36to subordination
00:54:37and from
00:54:38submission
00:54:40he is subjugated
00:54:41from the report
00:54:42of total
00:54:42dependence
00:54:43which has established
00:54:45with Maso
00:54:46of which
00:54:47performs
00:54:48blindly
00:54:48the orders
00:54:52his
00:54:53personality
00:54:54employee
00:54:55it gets stuck
00:54:56perfectly
00:54:57with that
00:54:58by Maso
00:54:59who needs
00:55:00of consent
00:55:01the two
00:55:03personality
00:55:04they need
00:55:05moon
00:55:06of the other
00:55:06to be able to
00:55:08exist
00:55:08Maso
00:55:10has
00:55:11narcissistically
00:55:12a sense
00:55:14Carbonin
00:55:16of dependence
00:55:21Paul Cavazza
00:55:23does not present
00:55:24disorders
00:55:25of personality
00:55:26Despite
00:55:27his
00:55:27immaturity
00:55:28his
00:55:29friendship
00:55:30with Maso
00:55:31is founded
00:55:32on interests
00:55:33of type
00:55:34economic
00:55:34try to
00:55:36exploit it
00:55:37to his own
00:55:38advantage
00:55:38it's a
00:55:40gregarious
00:55:43the fourth
00:55:44of the suspects
00:55:45It's Damiano
00:55:46Cavazza
00:55:47Perhaps
00:55:48the most
00:55:49sensitive
00:55:49of the group
00:55:50will be
00:55:52own
00:55:52Damiano
00:55:53to collapse
00:55:54first
00:55:55and open
00:55:56the road
00:55:56to confessions
00:55:59it will also be
00:56:00the only one
00:56:01to tell
00:56:02of having
00:56:02closed
00:56:03in the bathroom
00:56:04terrified
00:56:05from what
00:56:05it was happening
00:56:06in that house
00:56:11the judges
00:56:12called
00:56:12to express
00:56:13a verdict
00:56:13they don't have
00:56:14a task
00:56:14easy
00:56:15on one side
00:56:16There are
00:56:17the cruelty
00:56:17and then
00:56:18the aggravating circumstance
00:56:18for Peter
00:56:19Maso
00:56:19to have
00:56:20killed
00:56:20their own
00:56:20parents
00:56:22and then
00:56:22the futile ones
00:56:22reasons
00:56:23premeditation
00:56:25on the other
00:56:25side
00:56:26superficiality
00:56:27with which
00:56:27the four
00:56:28they acted
00:56:29lastly
00:56:30the judges
00:56:31they must
00:56:31take into account
00:56:31of another
00:56:32I wait
00:56:32the young woman
00:56:34age
00:56:34of the assassins
00:56:35Anyway
00:56:36to give them
00:56:37a hand
00:56:37There are
00:56:37the best
00:56:38specialists
00:56:39of psychiatry
00:56:40many
00:56:41some considerations
00:56:42that they brought
00:56:42to the sentence
00:56:43they will take into account
00:56:44own
00:56:45of work
00:56:45of the experts
00:56:52the process
00:56:54Maso
00:56:54it's one
00:56:55of those processes
00:56:56what they do
00:56:57history
00:56:57Peter Maso
00:56:59participate
00:57:00to all
00:57:01the hearings
00:57:02it seems
00:57:03serene
00:57:04it's fixed
00:57:06continuously
00:57:06the scarf
00:57:07that shows off
00:57:08Always
00:57:09when describing
00:57:12the murder
00:57:12of the parents
00:57:13his voice
00:57:15it's flat
00:57:15without emotion
00:57:17the indictment
00:57:20of the public
00:57:20ministry
00:57:21it's hard
00:57:22the atmosphere
00:57:24she's tense
00:57:24at times
00:57:26dramatic
00:57:27the expert
00:57:29psychiatrist
00:57:29of the public
00:57:30ministry
00:57:31And
00:57:32Victorino
00:57:32Andreoli
00:57:34for him
00:57:35exists
00:57:35only one
00:57:36guilty
00:57:36the country
00:57:39dominated
00:57:40from the god
00:57:40money
00:57:45in this country
00:57:46for example
00:57:47the money
00:57:48he lived
00:57:49in a way
00:57:49completely
00:57:50different
00:57:50from parents
00:57:51and from the children
00:57:52the parents
00:57:53they have money
00:57:54but it's as if
00:57:55they didn't have it
00:57:55it's almost
00:57:56a fault
00:57:56to hide
00:57:57for the children
00:57:58it's a means
00:57:59to consume
00:58:00and to enjoy
00:58:01life
00:58:01that's why
00:58:02they are children
00:58:03who are guilty
00:58:05and monsters
00:58:06but they are also victims
00:58:09it's a company
00:58:10that generates monsters
00:58:13in the name of the Italian people
00:58:15the war
00:58:17which will be referred to
00:58:18ancient
00:58:18the articles
00:58:19533
00:58:20and 535
00:58:22pigs
00:58:22with two
00:58:23penalties
00:58:23declares
00:58:24Maso Pietro
00:58:25for the friend
00:58:26for the friend
00:58:26by Giorgio
00:58:27and Cavazza Paolo
00:58:28responsible
00:58:29of the crime
00:58:30written down
00:58:31what sacrifices
00:58:31for the only one
00:58:32on Sunday
00:58:33of vice
00:58:33partial of Mind
00:58:34and the attenuated ones
00:58:35genetics
00:58:36condemnation
00:58:37Maso Pietro
00:58:38to the penalty
00:58:39aged 30
00:58:40of imprisonment
00:58:42February 22nd
00:58:441992
00:58:46assize court
00:58:47of Verona
00:58:49the process
00:58:50for the murder
00:58:51of the parents
00:58:52by Pietro Maso
00:58:52it closes
00:58:54with a sentence
00:58:55of guilt
00:58:56for all defendants
00:58:5930 years of imprisonment
00:59:02for Pietro Maso
00:59:0426
00:59:05for Giorgio Carbonin
00:59:07and Paolo Cavazza
00:59:09Damiano Burato
00:59:11that at the moment
00:59:12of the double homicide
00:59:13he was a minor
00:59:14he was judged
00:59:16from the court
00:59:17of the minors of Venice
00:59:18in the first degree
00:59:19and condemned
00:59:21at 13 years old
00:59:22of imprisonment
00:59:26over the years
00:59:27in prison
00:59:28Peter found
00:59:29the sister's affection
00:59:30he discovered
00:59:32to be able to try
00:59:33different feelings
00:59:34from selfishness
00:59:34maybe he'll make it
00:59:37Ferdinand
00:59:38had to go through
00:59:39a road
00:59:39totally different
00:59:40the hospital one
00:59:42judicial psychiatric
00:59:43of the doctors
00:59:44of therapies
00:59:44and sessions
00:59:51Peter Maso
00:59:52Today
00:59:53is in regime
00:59:54prisoner
00:59:55at the prison
00:59:56of work
00:59:58he comes out every morning
01:00:00he goes out
01:00:02to go
01:00:03to work
01:00:06he returns to his cell
01:00:07every evening
01:00:12it's not true that in prison
01:00:14time never passes
01:00:15I take care of the gym
01:00:16I teach bodybuilding
01:00:17together with my partner
01:00:19of cell
01:00:21I pray and read
01:00:22I read a lot
01:00:23but not things
01:00:24which concern
01:00:25my story
01:00:25I avoid those
01:00:27carefully
01:00:27I prefer
01:00:28Plato
01:00:29Aristotle
01:00:30and also the modern ones
01:00:33at the start
01:00:34I didn't understand
01:00:35Very
01:00:35but then I realized
01:00:37I realize that
01:00:37the meaning of things
01:00:38certain messages
01:00:39they can come out
01:00:40from every reading
01:00:41from the most difficult
01:00:42to Mickey Mouse
01:00:44then I answer
01:00:45to the letters
01:00:46in these years
01:00:47I have received thousands of them
01:00:50I want to help
01:00:51the young people
01:00:52who are at risk
01:00:52to get lost
01:00:53in situations
01:00:53similar to mine
01:00:56I'm not saying what I do
01:00:57the psychologist
01:00:58but almost
01:00:59I speak their language
01:01:02I understand what they want
01:01:03transmit
01:01:04when they launch
01:01:05certain messages
01:01:08I
01:01:08I never looked
01:01:09alibi
01:01:10I was wrong
01:01:11I did something
01:01:13cruel
01:01:13and I fully agree with it
01:01:14aware
01:01:15I was too
01:01:16at 19 years old
01:01:19today I'm looking
01:01:20to look
01:01:21to the future
01:01:21to build myself
01:01:22a life
01:01:24when I'm out
01:01:25from here
01:01:28I would like to get married
01:01:30and have children
01:01:31the first
01:01:32I would call it
01:01:33Peter
01:01:33like me
01:01:34so there would be
01:01:36another
01:01:36Peter Maso
01:01:40it seems
01:01:41have found
01:01:42faith
01:01:42he reconnected
01:01:44the reports
01:01:45with her sisters
01:01:47he got engaged
01:01:48from the Milanese prison
01:01:51he invoked
01:01:52pardon
01:01:53addressing
01:01:54to the bishop
01:01:55Peter Nones
01:01:56calling him
01:01:57father
01:02:04I think it is
01:02:05sincerely
01:02:07repentant
01:02:08and one of the little tests
01:02:10is this
01:02:11that what for which
01:02:13he did
01:02:15that great evil
01:02:17it overturned
01:02:19in the end
01:02:20and if he could have
01:02:23to deprive oneself
01:02:24a little money
01:02:26who had
01:02:27to give them
01:02:28to whom
01:02:29he didn't have any
01:02:30he would have left
01:02:32private
01:02:34undoubtedly
01:02:35in experience
01:02:37that I had
01:02:38as president
01:02:38of the court
01:02:39d'assist
01:02:40in Italy
01:02:41and also
01:02:42abroad
01:02:43shadow lines
01:02:45I crossed myself
01:02:48several
01:02:48episodes
01:02:50in which
01:02:51the man
01:02:53demonstrated
01:02:54a ferocity
01:02:56and unbearable
01:02:57and yet
01:02:59even in these
01:03:00episodes
01:03:01the size
01:03:03human
01:03:04it was almost never
01:03:06completely
01:03:07lost
01:03:11February 21st
01:03:132004
01:03:14After
01:03:165 years
01:03:17of hospital
01:03:18psychiatric
01:03:19in Castiglione
01:03:21of the Estilier
01:03:22the court
01:03:24of surveillance
01:03:24grants
01:03:26to Ferdinand
01:03:26Cart
01:03:27semi-liberty
01:03:29Then
01:03:31in 2006
01:03:33is entrusted
01:03:35to a community
01:03:36which hosts
01:03:37men and women
01:03:38with inconveniences
01:03:39psychiatric
01:03:40Cart
01:03:42gets
01:03:44freedom
01:03:44supervised
01:03:46follows
01:03:47of the courses
01:03:48of computer science
01:03:48dream
01:03:50a new life
01:03:51a new family
01:03:55he inherited
01:03:57the house
01:03:58of the street
01:03:58Rimini
01:03:59the house
01:04:00Where
01:04:01in August
01:04:02of '89
01:04:03in one night
01:04:04of madness
01:04:05his life
01:04:06it has changed
01:04:08forever
01:04:10but he doesn't want to
01:04:11no longer come back
01:04:13think one day
01:04:14to leave
01:04:16again
01:04:17Ferdinand Carretta
01:04:19in my opinion
01:04:20he is a person
01:04:21who has
01:04:21accomplished
01:04:23a long one
01:04:24path
01:04:25and has elaborated
01:04:26all that
01:04:27what happened
01:04:28I believe
01:04:29that won't be enough
01:04:30a life
01:04:31to overcome
01:04:32the drama
01:04:34the tragedy
01:04:35That
01:04:36precisely
01:04:37he shocked
01:04:39the existence
01:04:40by Ferdinando Carretta
01:04:42but
01:04:43him
01:04:44in this life
01:04:46is looking for
01:04:47Of
01:04:49reach
01:04:50a level
01:04:52bearable
01:04:53of pain
01:04:55even if today
01:04:56Cart
01:04:57has its own space
01:04:58one of his works
01:04:58made of commitment
01:04:59and relationships
01:05:00with colleagues
01:05:01the road
01:05:02it's not over yet
01:05:02and next to him
01:05:03ready to support it
01:05:05they are always there
01:05:05doctors
01:05:06and psychologists
01:05:07then the father
01:05:08and the mother
01:05:08the Bible says
01:05:09but Pietro Maso
01:05:11and Ferdinando Carretta
01:05:12they pushed themselves
01:05:13at the limit
01:05:13and they have overcome
01:05:14the border
01:05:16condemned
01:05:16to a pain
01:05:17that will never leave them again
01:05:19it is Christ
01:05:20the secret
01:05:21of my conversion
01:05:22and of my repentance
01:05:26I understood it
01:05:27although
01:05:27late
01:05:28father
01:05:28pray for me
01:05:29so that it is constant
01:05:30my path
01:05:31spiritual
01:05:37on the occasion
01:05:38of the party
01:05:39of the saints
01:05:39Peter and Paul
01:05:40I'm sending you
01:05:41my best wishes
01:05:41of good nomastic
01:05:43accompanied
01:05:43from prayer
01:05:44to Jesus
01:05:44that I receive
01:05:45every week
01:05:46in communion
01:05:54I consider it
01:05:55always like my father
01:05:56bless me
01:06:08I wish if someone
01:06:11can't forget
01:06:12what happened
01:06:13with my parent
01:06:15at least
01:06:17forgive me
01:06:18In short
01:06:18for what I did
01:06:19which is one thing
01:06:22that I would never have
01:06:23had to do
01:06:24absolutely
01:06:25that has me
01:06:26ruined life
01:06:27not just me
01:06:28but also
01:06:28to other people
01:06:31and I would also like
01:06:32to be judged
01:06:32for what
01:06:33I do it every day
01:06:35and what will I do
01:06:35they are not dead
01:06:36three people
01:06:37but they died
01:06:38four
01:06:40I mean me too
01:06:42that every day
01:06:43I'm trying hard
01:06:44to rebuild
01:06:46my life
01:06:47which is not easy
01:07:21my life
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