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مسلسل Out There: Crimes of the Paranormal مترجم - Episode 1
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01:00And when Granger left, it was the worst storm
01:04Vancouver Island had had in years.
01:07But he said it was going to be a chance of a lifetime
01:10to go to space.
01:16He told me the day was already chosen by the aliens
01:19and they're here, they're here now.
01:21And of course, we're looking out the window
01:23trying to see through the clouds.
01:26And I'm 15, so, you know, I believe that he's going.
01:31And then...
01:38And that was the last time anybody had seen him.
01:43I was the last person to ever see him.
01:59And I was the last person to ever see him.
02:00that he says it's coming.
02:00So, no, we're not going to lose him.illon
02:05제품 is coming. I
02:05got his system. I
02:20Over the years, people have been asking me about what happened to Granger.
02:25I was hearing all of this stuff that was just sheer BS.
02:31It bothered me a bit because I literally was with the guy almost every day, right up until the end.
02:41I always tell people, there's so many different memories I have, and there's a few things that I felt a
02:49lot of people have missed.
02:52People don't just vanish off the face of this planet.
02:57There's billions of people that believe in a god, and there's absolutely zero evidence, yet billions of people believe in
03:06it.
03:07And then I believe in aliens, and I'm nuts.
03:11Go figure.
03:16I'm thoroughly convinced that we don't have proof of what happened to Granger.
03:31I remember driving into Duncan for one of the first times.
03:34It's very rugged, it's very remote, and it almost feels like you fall into it a little bit.
03:39I was trying to find a story.
03:40I was like a really green journalist, and I was hungry.
03:43When I came across Granger's story, there was talks of his mechanical genius, but also his obsession with UFO and
03:51aliens and other planets, and I was enthralled.
03:56From there, I just kind of became obsessed, and I started digging in the local archives, and then I think
04:02the big thing for me is I kept seeing this person commenting on this post, saying, you know, if you
04:07want the real story about Granger, someone needs to come talk to me.
04:11And once I tracked Robert down, and he started talking to me about Granger and how he knew him and
04:15how close they were, I was immediately hooked.
04:22When I finished the seventh grade, I didn't want to go to grade eight.
04:26So when I dropped out of school, I had nothing to do except hang out with my other dropout friends,
04:33and, you know, the streets of Duncan were the place to be.
04:37And I'm not saying that we did anything super criminal, but we were kind of going down that road.
04:44My dad was really concerned about me ending up either in prison or dead, and I just kind of remember
04:52Granger saying, I'll take him.
04:54I got projects going on the farm all the time.
04:56He can come and help me, and it'll keep him out of trouble.
05:01So eight o'clock every morning, he'd come and bang on my door and get me out of bed, and
05:06off we'd go.
05:14In the beginning, I thought my father was kind of punishing me by making me hang out at this farm
05:18and work for this guy for free.
05:21But it only took a few days, and I didn't want to leave.
05:26It came out that he owned a train, okay, a train like we're thinking toy train, and then when they
05:32said, no, a real train, he found it down a gully that had derailed, and he was out there, ripped
05:40it apart piece by piece, bolt by bolt, scattered it up throughout the yard, and then he would fix them
05:46all up and put it all back together.
05:50That's like awesome, you get to climb up there and stand on the train as it down the tracks, and
05:55you get to pull the horn, and that's like Disneyland.
06:00Granger was like the ultimate big brother, you know, what's our adventure today is Granger, and he always had a
06:06plan.
06:08I hate to admit it, but Granger was more intelligent than I was, and I thought I was the best
06:14mechanic that was ever born.
06:17Him and I got along great.
06:19I believe he had 28 cars that he had restored.
06:24He was only a year and a half younger than me, and I say, hey, Granger, let's go in one
06:29of your cars.
06:30Drive down the main drag there in Duncan, and I'd be waving like the queen.
06:39And then Granger was totally into dynamite.
06:43Every once in a while, kaboom, like that.
06:46Well, Granger made his own cannons.
06:48This guy was a brain.
06:52He had the brain where he could look inside stuff and build it, just like right inside here, just like
06:59nothing, eh?
07:00I don't know.
07:02It was just the way Granger was.
07:03It was kind of like, you know, what they say that when you're a genius, you're right on the borderline
07:08of nuts.
07:12We were at an air show watching a couple of World War II planes flew over, and there was one
07:18of them had the shark teeth painted on it.
07:21Oh, he says, I want one of those.
07:23And I said, well, how do you buy one of those?
07:25He says, we'll make one.
07:28And he built a plane basically from scratch.
07:32And I felt special when he gave me a paintbrush, and I got to paint the first shark tooth, just
07:39one tooth.
07:40But, you know, he still, he made me feel like I was a part of that.
07:49Robert was the first person to hang along with Granger and would come over to the property and hang out.
07:55To be honest, at first I thought it was strange.
07:56I was like, why is a grown man, like, hanging out with teenagers?
08:00And I think a lot of it was that, you know, Granger dropped out in grade eight, just like Robert.
08:04And I think being a dropout and not having much to do, it'd be really easy to want to go
08:08hang out and see what Granger was up to.
08:11There was a bit of a mythology starting around Granger.
08:14He was kind of quietly the talk of the town, like, who is this guy who's just doing these incredible,
08:19incredible feats of mechanical wonders.
08:23Our neighborhood, we called him the Gentle Giant.
08:26That was his nickname.
08:28But Granger didn't quite fit in with the group.
08:30He kind of went off by himself, and he'd say, I need a project.
08:34I need a project to be out of place, say.
08:39He liked to be alone because people got in the way.
08:42You know, he was more interested in doing his thing.
08:45And when you're as smart as he is, you kind of, you got this eccentric type aura around you.
08:53Like when he says, I want to paint my truck.
08:56He had these paint cans.
08:59And it was pink, and we kind of went, pink?
09:03Of course, I'm 15.
09:05I thought it was funny.
09:06But it was Granger.
09:08Like, nobody would think twice.
09:09They'd see a pink truck and go, oh, what the?
09:11Oh, that's Granger.
09:13We expect that out of Granger.
09:16He just had a different type of fun.
09:35We were at the farm.
09:37Out of the blue, he kind of stopped what he was doing, and he said, oh, I had the craziest
09:41dream last night.
09:42And, of course, I'm thinking now, it's a dream about girls.
09:45If he's telling me, it's got to be a dream about girls.
09:48But he said, I was visited by aliens.
09:51And, of course, I'm like, oh, cool.
09:54The phenomenon of unidentified flying objects.
09:58To some, these UFOs will be miracles.
10:01To others, real but unexplainable.
10:03Whatever the government may think about them, unidentified flying objects seem to be popular with the people.
10:08Columbia Pictures reports that its film, Close Encounters of a Third Kind, has grossed $39 million in three weeks.
10:16People walking out of the theater are glancing upward.
10:20We grew up in the age of, oh, the aliens that landed and, you know, anti-gravity shit and all
10:25that.
10:26And Granger studied UFOs from when he was a kid.
10:33Granger had a whole bunch of UFO magazines and all these alien books here, and he did a lot of
10:39reading on it.
10:43They were taking off to the moon then, and that's probably what sparked his interest in outer space.
10:51During that time in popular culture, films about space aliens, UFOs were exploding.
10:58You have Close Encounters of a Third Kind, Star Wars, Star Trek, E.T., Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
11:11And so all of this drives people to want to believe a bit more.
11:15And whenever you bring up Duncan and UFOs, there's folklore and a mythology around it within the town.
11:23Where we live in Duncan, when it was dark, it was dark.
11:26And it's one of the few places where you could look up at the sky and actually see the strip
11:31of the Milky Way.
11:34And I've heard stories about UFO sightings.
11:37And it goes back from even before I was born.
11:40But it's not just anywhere in the skies over Duncan.
11:44It's usually over Mount Pervot.
11:48There was a time I was at a drive-in.
11:51Of course, we're watching the movie, and now all of a sudden people in the drive-in are honking their
11:56horns.
11:56And we looked up and there were some lights going across the sky.
12:00And really kind of crazy things, like they're zipping, like, different directions.
12:04Zip! Stop!
12:06Zip! Stop!
12:07Zip! Stop!
12:09Brain, Jay.
12:14Of course, we had no explanation for it, and nobody knew, and it was just a huge thing.
12:18It was in the paper the next day, and as far as we're concerned, it's UFO, right?
12:23And I witnessed that firsthand, and that was over Mount Pervot.
12:26It was all happening over Mount Pervot.
12:28So that one was seen for miles and miles and miles around.
12:40Now you know that the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything, is going to be
12:47blue.
12:48All you need to do now.
13:01I was with Granger.
13:02We were going back and forth, and we were talking about other dimensions.
13:07He was at one of the metal recycling places, metal dumps, in town, and that's when he spotted the radar
13:15dishes.
13:16And he says, this is going to be the next project.
13:23So he went and got these dishes, and they're like 18 feet in diameter, so they were big dishes.
13:32And he set one up on a cradle.
13:35Somebody went, hey, what are you building?
13:37A spaceship?
13:39Ding!
13:41He put the two dishes together, welded them, and he made a spaceship.
13:48And that was his getaway, because he still lived in his parents' house.
13:52He had built a spaceship.
13:54It was a UFO.
13:56Difficult UFO.
13:58It was as big as this room, and then he had couches.
14:00You could sit in.
14:02Granger hung out there with Robert, and that would make him happy.
14:12We'd go out there on the weekends, and we'd, you know, party all weekend, and there was just one day.
14:18He said, I had another dream.
14:21And I wasn't expecting the aliens again.
14:26And he said, they came and visited me.
14:29I'm telling you, I could feel their energy.
14:32I could smell their vinegary odor.
14:36And I'm kind of giggling about it, because how do you take that seriously, right?
14:41And he said, but it was so vivid.
14:43It's like it really happened.
14:47I said, what did they look like?
14:49And he described them as just being very slender, like really stick-tight people.
14:55They didn't open their mouths, but they were able to communicate with him telepathically.
15:01And he says, this time they told me that they wanted me to go to their planet.
15:05It's a 42-month journey.
15:07They're going to come and get me, and it's going to be during a storm.
15:16He asked them why, and they said, because their ship isn't silent.
15:21They need the storm to mask their ship.
15:29Granger finished his story and said they want me to come to their planet and, you know,
15:33see their people and talk about Earth and explain some of the things that I do.
15:37And I said, well, why would they pick you?
15:39Why wouldn't they pick, like, Carl Sagan or Stephen Hawking?
15:44And he said, because Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking can tell you all day long on a blackboard
15:49how to build things.
15:50He says, I actually build things, and that's why they chose me.
15:56So he said, it's perfect.
15:58I'll be the first human in history to ever do this.
16:01He says, I'll get to go to places where no other human will ever get to go.
16:17At this point, you know, I was already smoking pot.
16:20Is that on the record?
16:22Oh, I guess it's legal now, so I can say.
16:24So I said, you know, maybe we just, we smoked a little too much pot last night.
16:32Ranger, it was sort of becoming more distant in a way, because I think he was trying some
16:38acid, LSD or whatever, so he was becoming a bit different.
16:44But everybody was doing it then, you know.
16:51I heard he did acid, and the people around here couldn't understand him about UFOs, and
16:57nobody...
16:57It's like, Ranger, you know, shut up.
16:59We're tired of this kind of crap, eh?
17:02He was saying, I gotta have another project all the time.
17:08Maybe this taking off in space was another project.
17:17It just got to a point where these dreams were reoccurring every night, every night, every
17:22night, and then they would give him more details, more details, more details.
17:28And finally he came and said, you know what, this is almost getting scary, because it's becoming
17:33real.
17:34This is going to happen.
17:40I said, well, you don't want to go now, or?
17:42And he goes, it's a chance of a lifetime, I have to go, right?
17:46Like, I'm not going to turn this down.
17:49During that time, Granger gets a will and probate together, which is, like, very bizarre for
17:54a 32-year-old.
17:56And the strangest thing about it is that he crossed out the word death and wrote departure.
18:05The day was already chosen by the aliens, November 29th, and Granger said, this is going to be like
18:13the storm of the century.
18:16And when it happened, the Times colonist out of Victoria, which is a newspaper in Victoria, wrote
18:23it down as the storm of the century.
18:36It was about five o'clock.
18:38Granger came to our house, said goodbye to my family.
18:43He was super happy, you know, I'm going, today's the day, it's all happening.
18:47Gave me a hug and said, you know, this is it.
18:51So I asked him, I said, can I go with you?
18:55And my dad, joking about it, said, yeah, take him.
18:58He's a pain in my ass, you know, take him, take him, go ahead, you know, you got my permission,
19:02because dad never believed it in the first place.
19:06And Granger said, I can't.
19:08And I said, why?
19:15He said, you weren't invited.
19:20Then he left.
19:48Dear mother and father,
19:51I have gone away to walk aboard an alien spaceship as reoccurring dreams assured a 42-month interstellar voyage
20:00to explore the vast universe, then return.
20:08I am leaving behind all my possessions to use as I will no longer will require the use of any.
20:16Please use the instructions in my will as a guide to help, Love Granger.
20:27That was the last day I saw him.
20:30That's the last day anyone saw him.
20:52When I got the news that Granger disappeared, I was living in an apartment in Vancouver.
20:59So, poor dad phoned the police.
21:02And mom was in Hawaii.
21:04And that was hard on her.
21:08It was a shock to the whole family, to me especially, because we were very close.
21:21I was a reporter at the local newspaper here in Victoria.
21:25I learned that Granger had vanished.
21:27And when I went into the background, there was a very intriguing element, of course,
21:32with regard to the UFOs and Granger meeting aliens.
21:37It was a very sort of strange thing because there's that, there's this short little note,
21:42but the details of his disappearance were really not widely known.
21:48But I was in touch with the police lot over the years.
21:51So I went up and looked at the police report.
21:54This is the first entry.
21:56November 29th, 1980.
21:57Mr. Taylor, last saw Granger at 7 a.m. November 29th.
22:02Note was left in his room, stuck on a closet door, along with the will.
22:07Another entry.
22:08December 3rd, 1980.
22:10Another person last saw Granger talking to someone in Bob's Grill.
22:15Talked of the upcoming space trip, would not divulge where it's set to take place.
22:20That same day, police checked Mount Prevost area for vehicle, unable to get up due to snow.
22:25That was their focus of investigation, trying to find his little Datsun.
22:30Flew in a fixed wing and searched area.
22:33Negative.
22:34Air patrol made near Mount Prevost.
22:36Also negative.
22:37Checked motor vehicle branches.
22:39All negative regarding vehicle.
22:42So there's a lot of questions.
22:44A lot of questions raised.
22:47The police hit a dead end.
22:50You know, they had no leads.
22:51And so they're like, well, we need to find the truck.
22:52That's mentioned over and over.
22:54Like, how come we have not seen this truck?
22:56Everyone knows Granger drives a pink truck.
22:59But there's not a shred of evidence of where he went.
23:03So it very quickly becomes a cold case.
23:10I heard all kinds of things like, oh, your friend, he was crazy right from the get-go.
23:16Might as well stop looking because now it's a body search.
23:20We got several stages here.
23:22We got disbelief, belief, and that part in the middle.
23:26And when he wrote, I will be away for 42 months.
23:30Now I'm starting to say maybe there was something to this, you know?
23:39That time was particularly devastating for his parents.
23:44Granger was very close with his mother.
23:46It was heartbreaking.
23:50The note said that he would be back in 42 months, so it made my mother kind of hopeful and
23:56sad at the same time because maybe he's still going to come back.
24:02Wait and see, you know?
24:24I was still working for the Coast Guard at that time, and I went out onto the deck of the
24:29boat and sat out there gazing up into the air.
24:34Waiting for Granger to come.
24:39That was how much I respected what Granger said.
24:43When he said he was going to do something, he was definitely going to do it.
24:48And I wanted to be outside watching him when he came back.
24:56People asked me, oh, are you excited?
24:59Granger's coming back.
25:00And I said, no, he's not.
25:02He won't be there.
25:03And they went, what do you mean?
25:04He said 42 months.
25:06But I knew that I wasn't going to see him again.
25:12Just a few days before he left, he told me that the 42-month journey would be his travel time.
25:19So he's only going to age 42 months.
25:24Granger explained to me, their planet is on the other side of our galaxy.
25:28It's over 100,000 light years away.
25:31Now, the only way to do that in 42 months is to fold space.
25:34Now, we're talking 1980s.
25:36I'd never, ever, ever heard about folding space.
25:39They fold space and we travel between their planets on that side, our planets on this side.
25:45That's a 42-month round trip back to Earth.
25:48And I said, so it's only 42 months.
25:52And he said, yeah, but we're still 100,000 light years away.
25:56So I will be 42 months older and you'll be long dead and gone.
26:02Your kids will be long dead and gone.
26:05Your grandkids will be long dead and gone.
26:08100,000 years will have passed on Earth.
26:14Granger visited me in Vancouver maybe a week or two before he left that note.
26:20He asked, could he stay in the living room?
26:22And then I asked my roommates and they said, no, it could be too crowded or whatever.
26:27But I thought, you know, if he'd stayed there for three or four nights or whatever until mom came back
26:32from Hawaii.
26:34And, you know, maybe everything would have gone as normal.
26:41I knew he was having a hard time.
26:44In fact, he actually had a personal ad running in the paper.
26:49Man 22, discreet, shy, very lonely.
26:54Owns an interesting museum, etc.
26:56Likes shows, outings, travel, etc.
26:59Wishes genuine companion, partnership of unattached girl, 18 to 20.
27:0325, great Granger Taylor.
27:05He had no clue what he was doing.
27:08He didn't know what he was doing.
27:09He really, really didn't.
27:11He knew he needed a girlfriend and like that, but he didn't know what to do next.
27:16I mean, here's a guy who predominantly hangs out with, you know, teenagers and he's a grown man.
27:21I don't think he had a lot of intimacy in his life.
27:23Like, I've never heard anyone mention that he had, you know, a woman in his life that was really important
27:28or someone else, you know, a significant other.
27:30He was also very smart.
27:32Like, he was so far beyond mechanically what local people could do that he probably didn't have anyone to really
27:37talk to about it.
27:39And maybe the more he started to think about other planets, other places, that becomes exciting.
27:46That becomes, well, maybe I could connect somewhere else.
27:54I did go and see Mrs. Taylor quite a few times after Granger left and we sat down at the
28:00kitchen table and talked.
28:02You know, I tried to explain to her what he had said to me and she said, well, Granger's not
28:06a liar.
28:07So if he says he's coming back in 42 space months, however long that takes us, you know, he's coming
28:15back.
28:16And she never let go of that because she loved her children dearly, dearly.
28:22They were her world.
28:25His mom, strong, strong relationship.
28:40Mom and dad kept the front door open for Granger after he left that note.
28:47They did leave the porch light on too for Granger in case he did come home.
29:21Six years later, they said they found a crater up on the mountain.
29:31And in this crater there were pieces of a truck.
29:41Municipal work crews are working in an area on Mount Provode and they find something startling.
29:47There's a huge crater, lots of metal fragments.
29:50There's a tire rim 60 feet up in the air in a tree.
29:55The police show up, they start canvassing the area and quickly realize, yeah, this is a massive explosion.
30:07I drove up the mountain and examined the vehicle.
30:12We examined the site.
30:15And on what was left of the truck, there's a serial number.
30:20And it was the serial number of Granger's vehicle.
30:29When Granger left, my father and I had been blasting a bunch of stumps.
30:35And there was a case of powder left over.
30:39And I determined that he had taken the case of powder with him when he went up the mountain.
30:48There were holes in the ground the truck was sitting on where the powder had exploded.
30:55So that's what made me decide that's what he had done.
31:03I knew that Granger was gone.
31:09It was a great loss.
31:16It struck me very strange that it wasn't until 1985, five years since the Granger's disappearance,
31:23that the police report mentions that some dynamite was missing.
31:28Their investigation from 1981 to 1985, nothing.
31:33And then in 85, we got to some dynamite missing.
31:3686, they find a car destroyed.
31:38Oh, let's link these two together.
31:41But it's hard to draw a conclusion from that.
31:45There's nothing there to confirm that Granger was blown up with the car.
31:52Going through the site, the biggest piece of evidence that the police end up finding
31:56are some bone fragments.
32:00And there was no DNA testing then.
32:03The pathologist could declare it was a human bone, but not that they were Granger's.
32:07But despite that, it's that blast site and all that circumstantial evidence.
32:11In the eyes of the coroner and the police, they were like, well, this is now a closed case.
32:15This is not a missing person anymore.
32:17Granger died in that blast.
32:21For a lot of people, that's the end of the Granger story.
32:24For a lot of people, it's not.
32:26It just raises more questions.
32:30The whole story behind the investigation is fishy.
32:35That he went up on the mountain in this storm and brought dynamite with him.
32:41Therefore, Granger committed suicide.
32:45As if a genius is going to put dynamite under his truck and blow himself up.
32:51The guy was a genius and he was an expert with dynamite.
32:54He didn't make mistakes.
32:57Robert Keller.
32:58I got to trust the man.
32:59He was with him near those final days.
33:02And I don't see Granger doing that.
33:05I don't see himself setting himself up like that and doing that.
33:09The human bone fragments, even the coroner, said it was inconclusive.
33:16Inconclusive, inconclusive, inconclusive.
33:18Everything was inconclusive.
33:19I don't know about you, but to me, inconclusive means we don't know.
33:25RCMP is supposed to be the best in the world.
33:28The Canadian equivalent to your FBI.
33:31How can you close a case that's inconclusive?
33:34It doesn't work that way.
33:42In this case, it's regrettable that there wasn't more of an investigation done.
33:49The hard facts aren't there.
33:52I presume suicide.
33:54Who knows?
33:55Did he leave to meet aliens?
33:58Who knows?
33:59Was it something else?
34:00We don't know.
34:02There's all sorts of very intriguing aspects that are totally, totally unanswered in this case.
34:11One of the things that's always confused me, this BS story about the truck up on the mountain being Granger's,
34:19but yet nothing was consistent with Granger's truck.
34:29Here's where the bullshit starts.
34:32There was a serial number off a truck from the blast site.
34:37But, but, but, the pickup they found out there was blue.
34:45That was a Granger's truck.
34:46His truck was pink.
34:50He didn't have a blue truck.
34:52He had a pink truck.
34:53I literally painted it.
34:54I know it was pink.
34:55That was the truck that he backed out of my driveway out that last day.
35:02And then, that VIN number was a partial VIN number.
35:06It wasn't a complete VIN number.
35:08To say that partial VIN number is consistent with Granger's truck, there could be 100,000 trucks that that was
35:16also consistent with.
35:19Plus, there was a license plate found.
35:22Nobody talks about that because the license plate didn't match Granger.
35:25So, the license plate, we're going to discard that.
35:28They found a wheel up in the tree from the explosion.
35:30It was a mag wheel.
35:32Granger didn't have mags on his truck.
35:35You know, I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but something's wrong with that picture.
35:40You know, what are you guys hiding?
35:46You know, there is a member of the family that had connections with the police.
35:50And this, of course, is just my opinion.
35:53But I believe that they did what they had to do to close the case, just to give Mrs. Taylor
35:59peace of mind because her health wasn't great.
36:02And after six years, they wanted to kind of ease her mind because she loved her kids.
36:07She loved her kids dearly.
36:08And she would have never given up on Granger.
36:12She would have went to her grave waiting and hoping.
36:16There are people out there who think that might not be Granger's vehicle that was found?
36:22No.
36:24It was his pickup and it was Granger that was there.
36:30No.
36:31That's total fabrication.
36:34He's...
36:35I don't believe everything he says.
36:49There's a lot of theories that are going around, but you have to look at the facts.
36:54You know, certainties.
36:55You can't trust memories because it gets skewed, especially with time.
36:59And the police report constantly refers to a blue Datsun pickup truck.
37:04The truck was probably registered in that color.
37:06But look at what the police report says about this explosion.
37:10It was massive.
37:11There was hardly any of the truck left.
37:13Like, the only parts that survived were, like, the engine block.
37:15It would have been conceivable that that pink paint just burned away.
37:20And I'm sure the family wanted closure, but whether someone would force that or manufacture something to get there, it's
37:27interesting.
37:28And it's interesting to me for one reason only, is that I do know that in January of 1986, two
37:34months before the blast site is located,
37:37that Granger's parents filed to have him declared dead so they could access his will.
37:43The timing of that is, I mean, yeah, it's a little strange, but, um...
37:49Was there collusion?
37:50Yeah, it's possible.
37:52One family member and the RCMP helped to fabricate the story.
37:56They needed to close up that situation so the family could rest, and all that legal stuff had to be
38:03all finalized.
38:04So if it was done, it was done for the right reasons for his mom and dad.
38:10Did your family ever have, like, a funeral or a memorial after the truck was found and someone...
38:16I don't know, we never did, because there was still hope that he might come back.
38:21And Mom never did get over it.
38:25All I've ever said, provide proof.
38:29Prove to me that that was Granger's truck.
38:32Show me one piece of pink paint.
38:35Show me the bones.
38:36Where is all of that stuff?
38:38They've lost it.
38:39What happened to the bones?
38:41Why don't the RCMP still have them?
38:43Why weren't they ever DNA tested even later on?
38:45And it's like, well, things get lost, especially after 30, 40 years.
38:49So is it acceptable?
38:50No, but it happens.
38:51And so that's a big, contentious point and why a lot of people won't let the Granger story go.
38:58People want to go a little further down the rabbit hole.
39:08Well, we're in the clouds, so we must be really close.
39:13Yeah, I've been coming up this mountain ever since I was, like, old enough to walk.
39:17My brothers and I used to hike up to the top all the time.
39:22And just a little ways down here is where they said they found this truck.
39:38So this is the spot just in here.
39:42It's all overgrown now.
39:43But this was the spot where they claimed that they found the truck.
39:47And there was supposed to be a crater in the ground just back in here.
39:52And a few years went by.
39:54We came out here.
39:56And we just found a small little ditch.
39:59But there was no truck parts left on it.
40:01But they claimed they had cleaned everything up.
40:03And that's the reason why we didn't find any parts.
40:07But I'm still saying it wasn't Granger's truck.
40:17I'm not in denial.
40:18It's been, what, it's almost 40 years.
40:21I mean, I'm not in denial.
40:24I just want to know.
40:25I'm like everybody else.
40:26I want to know what happened to Granger.
40:28I have to believe he went to space.
40:30I still believe he went to space.
40:32And nobody, not even the RCMP, can tell me different unless they provide me proof.
40:43I go back and forth over the years of, like, what I think actually happened to Granger.
40:48But it's starting to not really matter so much.
40:53Like, to me, it's the why.
40:56If you think about all the possibilities of what happened to Granger,
40:59whether he was of sound mind or not, to do it on purpose or by accident,
41:03you know, he could have been having some sort of mental health crisis or depressive episodes.
41:08I just don't know where his head was at.
41:10And I think no one knows.
41:11And that's the enigma of all of this.
41:13Because we don't have the truth.
41:16We are talking about this man as in the past.
41:20That's wrong.
41:22That's wrong.
41:24Granger is still here.
41:26Yeah, Granger is still here.
41:32A lot of different reasons.
41:34People he knew, things he made.
41:37He left a huge legacy.
41:42Granger restored so many things.
41:46A lot of them are in the Forest Museum.
41:48His cars, the locomotive.
41:51It's got its own room where it's sitting.
41:54It's beautiful.
41:57I think a lot of people want to believe in a way that Granger did meet aliens.
42:04Because grief can be a really hard thing to deal with.
42:10If Granger is in space right now, he's definitely happy.
42:14Because he'll be doing the mechanics and he would have found his project.
42:19Who knows?
42:20He might have met an alien girl.
42:25Maybe he will come back.
42:27You know?
42:28You never know.
42:36There's so many different memories I have.
42:39And I've told people for years and years and years, you know, despite what they've heard about him, you know,
42:46the real him, that's a story in itself.
42:51I mean, if I was an alien and I needed to take somebody, Granger Taylor would have been the guy.
43:01If Granger's got some satellite dish on that spaceship and this is going out to him, I would have to
43:08say, I miss you, right?
43:10I miss you.
43:11I wish you were here.
43:15And I hope you're having fun.
43:17Because that's what he said, right?
43:19It was going to be a chance of a lifetime.
43:22So I'm happy for him.
43:24And I hope he's enjoying his trip.
43:27And I'll miss him.
44:10And I hope he's enjoying his trip.
44:21And I hope he's enjoying his trip.
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