00:01i think it is more than just this team but i'm okay focusing on this team i want to play
00:08a piece of audio after the red wings beat the flyers last night and i want to remind you
00:14the red wings at one point were leading their division and we talked about okay we're not
00:21going to have another march collapse and we proceeded to have another march collapse
00:24they currently have a seven not 17 not 70 they have a seven percent chance to make the playoffs
00:32and that's rounding up and after last night this was the audio that came out of that locker room
00:38and it makes it difficult because it's most cider who had arguably one of the great offensive games
00:44for any wings defenseman in history uh the wings haven't had a five point night from a defenseman
00:51since the 40s think about that and think about all the wonderful players who have played here
00:55so it has nothing to do with the way he or dylan larkin by the way thanks captain too little
01:01too
01:01late but fine listen to what mo cider had to say though and then i want to have a conversation
01:07david
01:28oh boy the old outside noise thing now that's the second time we've gotten that from the wings
01:34locker room in the last week and this is my question all right and maybe i'm too cynical
01:42i'm just i've done this too long do players not realize that criticism is part and parcel to what
01:50they do for a living you play a children's game for money you're not very good at it because once
01:58again flow chart seven percent chance to make playoffs and much like during the season when
02:04i'm on ross st brown went after the fans what why why is this a thing like to me when
02:11i look at the
02:12red wings first of all you shouldn't be listening to any outside criticism it's a waste of your time
02:17but you've chosen to do it the worst thing you can do is dignify it by responding that way you've
02:24given
02:24it oxygen you've dignified it now if you want to tell me he's just taking up for his captain that's
02:31one thing but he went a step further by saying we don't care what you guys say about us well
02:36there's
02:36a problem here mo by saying that you're telling us you do care which is equally silly you should care
02:44that you have a 93 chance of not making the playoffs and maybe some self-evaluation as to why
02:52people are criticizing you in the first place rico i just i'm the wrong person for this because
02:59anytime athletes do this i laugh it's like a chef being upset that the the michelin star guide is in
03:06house tonight and it put too much pressure on him and there's outside noise what are we talking about
03:12because everybody wants to hear the praise everybody wants to using the chef you want the five star rating
03:19you want all of that stuff call diana russini yeah i know if you want that type of journalism
03:25go ahead trade your access for for nice articles it happens all the time no you want to hear call
03:31shams it's it's mike it's human nature you want to hear the positive things you don't want to hear
03:35negative things because it's like well why do you have to say the negative thing if you accept you know
03:40the positive you got to accept the negative it comes with the job like you say and if you're paying
03:45that close attention then yeah it does affect you yes then the negative you could say we're not
03:52paying attention to it but as you say by simply saying that it means you took the time to listen
03:58to all the negative things that you think are negative which could just be truthful and fashionable
04:02there you go when did truth become negativity and by the way a conversation about dylan larkin's future
04:09here no one has said dylan larkin's a bad player we have said maybe it's time for a change of
04:15scenery
04:15it's run his course he's an 11 year pro who hasn't played a playoff game since his rookie year
04:21like that's a conversation i kenny i want i want you involved on this because mo is your guy
04:27so i'm worried you're not going to give a fair and balanced assessment here but like that commentary
04:33that's the second time now we got to hear these guys moaning about about the outside criticism
04:40well then play better look i i love most cider you know this he's my favorite red wing he's been
04:44my
04:44favorite red wing in the past call it a decade but he can't be saying things like this but it
04:49also to
04:50me i'd be i believe now it's a symptom of a bigger issue in the locker room whether it's a
04:55messaging
04:55from dylan larkin whether it's messaging from todd mcclellan you can't criticize the media when
05:01something bad happens or the outside noise or whatever you want to call the fan pressure it's it's
05:06all part of that's what the money's for you're making this amount of money as a professional athlete
05:10when things don't go your way they're allowed to be critical of you but i think it's an even bigger
05:15issue than mo saying that i think it's an issue of that's how they're talking inside of the locker
05:20room clearly it is an issue and clearly it's on their minds because they're thinking about it and
05:25like you said giving it oxygen commenting on it i want to hear from red wing fan on this and
05:30honestly
05:30sports fan in general because anytime athletes do this it drives me crazy these guys don't even know
05:36what negativity is playing in detroit is valhalla compared to other markets yeah but remember if
05:42you say something negative you don't know puck you don't know ball you don't know whatever because
05:48you didn't say what i needed you to say you didn't say i was nice you didn't say i was
05:52the greatest
05:52thing ever you didn't say i was a future hall of famer and this team was gonna win that has
05:57nothing
05:57to do with what i just said no no i'm saying handle playing in a real market if they think
06:02this is
06:02negative that's what i'm saying oh they can't handle it maybe that's what kenny's talking about
06:07go ahead take this motley crew who hasn't made the playoffs in a decade and go park them in boston
06:13let me know how that rolls you know what i'm saying like i i'm almost offended by it because honestly
06:19playing in detroit this is the best of both worlds for a pro athlete you get the big market passion
06:26you
06:26get big market dollars you get small market critique yes and i think that the small market critique
06:31has kind of walked itself out of the room because people are saying okay it's been a long time guys
06:37since you made like think about each year we keep lowering the bar if you can just make the playoffs
06:43that's all we ask you have to win a game just make the playoffs and you're not clearing that bar
06:49i want
06:50to hear the people are turning on okay two four eight five three nine ninety seven ninety seven i want
06:54to
06:54hear the people on this and and it's more than just the wings but this is the second time now
06:59from
06:59larkin and then from most cider talking about the outside noise the criticism now we don't care what
07:06you say about it guys you have a seven percent chance to make the playoffs the bad people outside
07:11your locker room are the least of your worries maybe look around your room seven percent to get in
07:17ninety three percent to not why is criticism out of line and why are you giving it oxygen and the
07:25fact
07:25that it's again i mean it's not the first time that this collapse has happened it's the third fourth
07:30time this collapse has happened so forgive us as fans or as media members or whomever you like
07:36to be upset about that or to be critical of it and we are at a point in time and
07:40even though the nhl
07:41is a poverty league athletes across the board in the united states of america have never made more
07:47money than this day today you play a kid's game now you're very good at what you do you got
07:55to be
07:55the one percent of the one percent to play it now congratulations you've made it to your respective
08:01league here's the give back you're going to be criticized that's part of the deal want to direct a
08:08marvel comics movie better not have it be a disaster that's one line no no no you're not kidding
08:16you know yeah and i can't name one that was bad because i don't know enough about them but the
08:20example is the example these are big budget big time promoted things yeah don't uh don't direct
08:26the marvels okay i'll take your word for it it's it's just it's jaw-dropping to me it is jaw
08:32-dropping
08:33because let's not forget you talked about saint brown and you talked about the other message that
08:37came this week from the wings but remember jared golf when he had that relish in negativity comment
08:42same thing and it's like same thing they like they chant your name at a grocery store you make
08:4750 some odd million dollars a year you essentially have your ass kissed 24 7 365 you have a five
08:56turnover game and now all of a sudden you want to call the wambulance i i'm sorry i think that's
09:02laughable give me a break i mean you think the guy who's up on a roof today wants to hear
09:10athletes
09:10cry about criticism he's freezing his balls off and he's trying to feed his two kids
09:15at a job he hates i mean give me a break any job that that has any level of profile
09:21you're going to
09:22get criticized do what you need to do to shield yourself from it not mire in it not be affected
09:27by it but the one thing you don't get to do is cry that's the part i can't figure out
09:35but that's where we are just not i mean we're sitting here we're 25 minutes deep in a show on
09:40a friday we're both in a good mood we've probably both been called some form of sex toy 50 times
09:45already by people in the in the in the inner interwebs i was gonna say yeah people are so mean
09:51to us i think i think my was five minutes in talking about the artemis thing my whole point is
09:56that's part
09:57of what we do now you don't have to partake in it you don't have to do what jim costa
10:01does where he
10:01gets in some weird wiener measuring contest with strangers but like you don't you don't cry about
10:07it comes with the territory it does but athletes like people say all the great things about me i
10:14love you say something bad it's just outside noise you don't know it's also this too it's kind of a
10:21blanket statement by and large not exclusively i just think athletes have never been more entitled
10:28it's just a grow up you got a seven percent chance to make the playoffs okay that's why there's noise
10:36focus on the root cause we'll get with some people next 97-1
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