00:02hello it's me again so yesterday i thought we did a wonderful job as a team here we didn't
00:09want to start out angry we had a little fun we got into the laporta thing and thought all in
00:14all
00:14was very good show i don't really get that choice today because this truly is suck city it really
00:20is like we don't get to just feel good about anything and it begins with another 17 stupid
00:28reports about the red wings which i'm increasingly start to believe are stupid like so i'll read
00:35these to you not because i want to but because i have to and we're going to end up having
00:40the same
00:40conversation we're on the flow chart rico and i are going down the rapids together and we take a
00:46little turn in the boat and we put the oars and we're when it ends at linkedin because smile for
00:52the picture nothing changes yeah so here's your edvinson report which is all stupid because he
00:58could have been signed this summer he wanted to be here um what's tripping the red wings up to some
01:04degree chris johnston says is they have most cider signed at eight and a half million long term
01:10and i think edvinson would be viewed as their second best defenseman and they would want that
01:16to be the ceiling i.e what i've been saying is the red wings play by stupid rules that are
01:21made up in
01:22their head like the boogeyman or the tooth fairy that i can't pay my captain more than x or i
01:27can't
01:28pay most you know another player more than cider they signed in a different economy then you have
01:35another report from michael russo stating that dylan larkin trade the wild checked in again had a call
01:41with detroit they were trying to convince them that a futures deal you could use those futures to get
01:46other things which feels hyper patronizing and passive aggressive but the biggest news of the
01:52day is the following uh pierre lebrun tsn elliot friedman is weighed in as well it's a clear
02:00understanding especially where the player is this is edvinson he feels it's dragged out so long the most
02:06logical option for him is a trade he stopped short of making an official request like larkin did
02:12sean horkoff has said he's not interested in trade talks one problem pierre lebrun says that detroit has
02:19had trade talks with up to 10 interested teams should the situation continue to deteriorate
02:25horkoff still wants to sign him rico and is still holding out hope there but he's continuing to have
02:31talks there's up to 10 teams look the san jose sharks are the one that's interesting to me just because
02:36they have 20 million in cap space and according to hockey nerds a ton of good forward prospects
02:41but i'm crazy because i'd be i'd be doing i'd be doing futures packages because this team stinks i was
02:46about to say mike but nobody can come in right away and contribute to this no and and again even
02:51tsn is
02:52saying it like what with noah dobson or or bone byram got traded you're gonna do a first round pick
02:58or
02:58two and a prospect so we sit here today and here's what you got you got apparently a larkin deal
03:05could
03:06happen at any moment and it's probably going to be the same deal you would have got this summer
03:10and then you're going to end up trading your 23 year old 6 6 225 pound freight train of a
03:16defenseman
03:17because you didn't want to pay him more than most cider because apparently you're not living in the
03:22new economy where the salary caps are going up to 150 sooner than rather than later so instead of
03:28signing that player you've angered that player so much that he's going to be traded oh and by the way
03:36you're not even the full-time gm let me check linkedin to see how things are going i just i'm
03:42tired of this franchise being such an effing joke i'm sick of this i'm tired of all of this i
03:48don't
03:48even want to do this i have no desire right now to even do this topic because it all ends
03:53in the
03:53same thing you've terrible ownership you don't have a front office the front office people that
03:58were there are just eiserman loyalists and and here's where we're at the captain isn't the captain
04:03anymore and he wanted out and you got a 23 year old defenseman who 10 other teams value and have
04:09no
04:09problem probably paying him 11 and a half million a year but you're the team that does it you're having
04:14your off season in season all with mr belding is your gm it's like what am i supposed to tell
04:22people
04:22like what am i supposed to say anymore no the funny thing mike when you look at with how this
04:27wings organization is acting they're acting as if we're still back in the days before the internet and
04:34before social media and before we actually knew what everybody was doing what everybody was thinking
04:39when day when deals were done in silence and it was just breaking news oh wait this person just got
04:46moved we all know everything that's going on we all know the people and what they want
04:51the the prospects that you would get back and they constantly keep wanting to tell you no no no no
04:56no it's not like that it's like guys i can see right there it's all over the place you did
05:03talk i didn't
05:03talk to anybody actually you did because nine other teams are saying that you called them like times have
05:09changed but it's like this team hasn't they're stuck in 15 years ago and it's like we know what's going
05:18on you're right my biggest it's not even a fear we're gonna go through all of this and you just
05:26said
05:26it to get what you could have gotten summer right like so what was all of this extra for they
05:32don't
05:33know what they're doing well i shouldn't say they chris doesn't know what he's doing call it seriously
05:43if it's pizza or parking lots all right i trust the guy knows what he's doing knows how to scale
05:47a business as far as running a hockey team show me look at this from the from the time you
05:53got rid
05:53of eiserman to your grandiose hundred person plan to now you're going on linkedin and and and tiktok
06:02and whatever else you're going on to because you won't stand in front of a podium like an adult
06:06you're telling people you may not hire a gm until the season's over now all of a sudden you're going
06:10to
06:10hire a hawk a president a pobo you know a poho as reger would say before you hire a gm
06:17and look
06:18at this we're we're 10 games into the season rico we're talking about you're going to trade your
06:22captain but you don't want to rebuild and we're going to trade a 23 year old defense who wanted
06:26to be here and you're only going to get a futures package back which triggers a rebid buddy i just
06:33let me hearken back to man yesterday how you know we started with a fun topic we started with movies
06:40right can we go i feel like no chris farley and tommy bar is just like ah i can't i
06:47can't take
06:47it now you see how i felt the other day when i was like this team just can't do anything
06:51simple
06:52and you just have to you do realize we are living real life draft day with this wings team feels
07:03like
07:04all the things i mean this this is becoming a bad movie that we will make fun of like we
07:10make fun of
07:11draft day oh you want to sit and have a a funeral irish dance on draft day and you want
07:17to do this
07:17and you're walking around with a jumpsuit that says coach oh you're going to interview a hundred people
07:22oh okay like it's so ridiculous if you take the step back we're living draft day the movie we are
07:33red wings edition because it's ridiculous oh okay well where's your uh where's your defenseman oh he's
07:40overseas he flew away he wanted a deal he didn't get any left what about your captain well he wanted
07:45out
07:46but you know he's still here he's going to play for us but what are we going to do i
07:51mean is horkoff
07:53having this pocket you know what get futures no matter what he can't i mean on one hand every piece
07:59of reporting is the wings refuse futures driven's package and then horkoff is on the record saying
08:05he doesn't want to trade evansom it it's they don't know what they're doing they don't just call it what
08:10it is you get fire iserman but then you moved him up like if you really if you just want
08:15to have
08:15some fun think of this off season and the current wing situation as draft day and then you start
08:23chuckling i'm not chuckling we are we're really living this as bad as we said that that movie is
08:28and it's so unrealistic until it happens you know the other thing and i admit this like i know this
08:33is going to sound irrational to people it'll probably sound unfair or mean i don't think it's any of those
08:39things it's just me being honest with my listeners i said it then i'll say it again this this really
08:44makes me angry at at to bring it because you know what to bring it comes off as the company
08:51man
08:51the bill lumberg of of of the red wings to bring it could have put this thing over the edge
08:57like
08:58thelma and louise by saying i want to trade yeah and instead he was the good company man and he
09:03showed
09:04up at the family picnic and he operated the the the egg race and any and he took their money
09:10and the only one willing to do it it just really pisses me off i can't help it and it's
09:15it's like
09:15it's his life he can do whatever he wants and you know he's got a young family i get it
09:20i know it's
09:21irrational but damn it to bring it insider held the cards i just i have told david i've made a
09:28donation
09:28to greater life church to pray for mo cider to demand a trade i just there needs to be something
09:34that
09:34is so seismic that if dylan wasn't enough and the evanson thing isn't enough then what would be it
09:41it would have been to brinkett saying i'm leaving but but he was company man he was right up there
09:47milton did you get a piece of cake i mean he took their money kids like the schools man i
09:54don't care
09:55no i am tommy lee jones and the fugitive i don't care i don't care so is there a question
10:02in this
10:03i don't know hockey elite do you even care anymore or are you reaching the point i'm reaching
10:10i mean i think the question would be how do you feel when when all said and done it ends
10:17up being
10:17the deal that should have been made over the summer where you got a futures driven packet and they've
10:22wasted all of this time and you're sitting here in late october to early november and you don't have
10:28dylan larkin and you don't have simon evanson but the team said they didn't want to rebuild
10:35question mark like what is the impetus to bother i mean it's a laugh factory that that's the problem
10:44this isn't even how a it's not how a major league team behaves itself
10:52that's all right we'll wait for the next myspace update from chris
10:58everything's going great now check out this track from florida talk to you guys in a month
11:03i i just i don't know here paul paul can you hear me do me a solid lean into that
11:10microphone
11:11ask the audience a question to throw the number out i quit i don't i don't care anymore i can't
11:16this this this is this is it's absurd all these reports friedman lebrun johnston pagnata if i have
11:24to hear from another canadian goofball my head's going to explode you know it gets to a point
11:30poop or get off the potty like just make the trades and we can react but enough of this this
11:37this
11:37blood draw this is just chinese water torture oh they had to talk to put the cards on the
11:46go ahead paul but here's the thing let's see what paul's made of ask him a question throw the
11:52number out fill the lines or you're going home i'm kidding paul i'm kidding we love you jeez
11:58let's get get that man energy drink go ahead you ask people a question well i was gonna ask you
12:04guys
12:04because i know you're upset that the brinkett agreed to stay and took the extension why would
12:09horcoff agree to be in the position he's in like i get it's one of 30 teams but you could
12:14be
12:14fired at any moment the owner keeps saying that publicly paul i was just gonna say that
12:20we're in the vicious circle because if you want them to make a deal then that means that horcoff
12:27is your guy but if he's not your guy you can't make the deal so now we have to sit
12:33and wait until
12:33we get a guy but we need to do something right now so go make the deal but wait a
12:37minute he's not the
12:38guy and you just keep going around and around and around that's where they are right now because
12:45you don't have so because the next moves that are going to be made will be seismic for this organization
12:52you can't have a substitute teacher make those types of colossal decisions and then expect somebody
13:00to walk in here and say i'm cool with that i would do the same thing you can't do that
13:05so you're
13:06stuck in this quagmire where you just have to sit here and it looks ridiculous but the only
13:14alternative is we could be really bad for a year or we could be really bad for the next four
13:21or five
13:21years so let's just stop and think this thing through until we get a real gm so yes we're gonna
13:28go around we're gonna do this dance and we're gonna keep doing this dance mike for a while yeah and
13:32answer i don't know i'll formulate an answer for paul at some point uh just 248-539-9797 do what
13:39you
13:39want i gotta open phone lines you figure it out i quit come on back buddy it's just this is
13:46so stupid
13:47this is so stupid go ahead you talk to him 97-1
13:52you
13:53you
