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What exactly are the Detroit Red Wings doing?
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00:00I want to mix in something Jeremy had in the update
00:02because I would really love to hear from the hockey elite.
00:09This Red Wing thing is turning into something very bizarre.
00:13I mean, we are sitting here on August 12th.
00:16You do not have a general manager.
00:19Your star, according to every report, is not backing off of his trade demand.
00:25You heard that Jeff Greenberg would be in consideration to be the GM of the team.
00:30You know, the current GM of the Tigers who spent 10 minutes with the Blackhawks.
00:36Now, while Greenberg might be qualified as a table setter, a placeholder,
00:41let's be clear on something.
00:42This is the Detroit Red Wings.
00:45This isn't the Columbus Blue Jackets.
00:47It's an original six franchise.
00:49They've got a great arena.
00:50They have tradition.
00:53We're thinking of doing what?
00:55Having a guy who works for the family's baseball team just slide down the hallway?
01:01And then you hear the Ted Coffin report, and it's like,
01:05well, they think Larkin will come to camp because money and things.
01:10While Larkin might begrudgingly come back,
01:13you do realize the fans in this town have made up their mind.
01:16You will be creating one of the ugliest situations in the league.
01:19That's before we get to you had a non-starter offseason.
01:26It's like if you do so little of your school assignments, you didn't fail the class.
01:32You were given an incomplete.
01:33You didn't have an offseason.
01:36Right now, the Wings are one of the three worst teams in the Eastern Conference.
01:41What the hell is going on here?
01:43I don't know.
01:45It's to the point where it's almost like not the Tigers are expecting a strike in baseball,
01:51but it's like they're expecting a strike in hockey.
01:53It's like, guys, wrong sport.
01:55You're going to be playing next year.
01:56What are we doing?
01:58Is Dylan still on the team?
02:00Is he the captain?
02:01Who's going to run the team?
02:02Like, there's so many questions.
02:04And I guess what bothers me, there's no sense of urgency.
02:09It's almost like, oh, well, the regular season, I mean, the Stanley Cup was just handed out.
02:14So we got months ahead.
02:15No, you don't.
02:16You got weeks before we were going to kick this thing out.
02:19And there's so many questions and nobody's come out to talk about this.
02:23So we're all in the dark.
02:25You don't know if Dylan's going to still be here, who's going to be the GM.
02:31What are we doing?
02:32And it feels like, to me, looks like, seems like, feels like you've just pretty much said,
02:39okay, well, this next season doesn't count.
02:41We'll start fresh the season following that.
02:44That's how it feels like to me.
02:45It's really bizarre.
02:47I don't think I've ever seen anything like this.
02:49So now you have what, Sean Horkoff behind the scenes, running things, but he's not going
02:54to be the GM, and it might be Greenberg.
02:57And all the while, two more Larkin teams on the list have essentially pulled out.
03:02You have reports today and yesterday that Minnesota offered multiple first-round picks,
03:08multiple players.
03:09Wings don't want what they're offering.
03:11And you're on a collision course to bring in somebody back who doesn't want to be here,
03:15who hasn't changed his stance.
03:18The firing of Iserman didn't change anything, and your team didn't get better.
03:24What a mess.
03:26Just a total mess.
03:28That's the best way to put it is, yeah, just no sense of urgency, just kind of dragging
03:34their feet, showing up to work, going to do anything today?
03:37See, that's the thing.
03:38It's the dragging of the feet.
03:41Because July 15th was the day that Iserman announced that he was going to step away.
03:46And that was already late in the offseason process, right?
03:49We already, we know this.
03:51And yet, over the weekend, Elliott Friedman, who knows a lot about this sport, knows a lot
03:56about the inside that happens, over the weekend, had a report that this is the week they were
04:02going to start their search.
04:04I'm sorry.
04:05That's a month after Iserman stepped away.
04:08So now, you're already late in the process of him stepping away in the offseason, and
04:13now you waited a month to then start the process to find a replacement?
04:17And then, Mike, you mentioned it.
04:19This week, reports of what you may want for Larkin, teams that want to get involved.
04:24Well, how can that happen when you don't have someone running the show?
04:28How can you agree to wanting prospects or wanting players?
04:31Well, because it'll also hurt your ability to hire the full-time general manager.
04:36I mean, you could make a move, but as an intern, like, let's say Horkoff is your intern.
04:41So you're going to make a move, and then what if the guy you would have hired is like, yeah,
04:47nah, that ain't what we're doing.
04:49This is my whole problem.
04:50And I'll say it again.
04:52This is just a bigger, more exacerbated version of the Pistons offseason.
04:57The Pistons couldn't have the offseason they really wanted to have, A, because their GM
05:02is a lightweight and can't get anything done, but B, they had the Duren thing hanging over
05:07them.
05:08And when I say lightweight, let me be clear.
05:10When you try to play the card with the team-friendly media, hey, we tried, or we made calls.
05:16No, no.
05:17There is no try.
05:17There's only do.
05:19Well, this is just a bigger version.
05:21Listen, you've had no offseason because your captain wanted out, and then your hero quit
05:30so he could go play golf.
05:32So then what are you supposed to do with Vin Debrinkit?
05:34No clue, because you have nobody running it.
05:37Simon Evanson is out there.
05:39If I'm, hey, you're lucky Debrinkit's from here.
05:42And if I have to hear he's raising a young family here again, my head is going to cave
05:46in on itself like the Titan sub.
05:48I can't take anymore.
05:49If I'm Debrinkit, you know what?
05:51My kids will like it somewhere else, and we'll have a summer house in Michigan.
05:54I can't do this anymore.
05:56This team blows.
05:58It's just unbelievable to me how lucky they are.
06:01Like, I'm waiting for someone to offer sheet Edvinson.
06:05You wanted that.
06:07You called that a long time ago.
06:08I choose violence.
06:09Out of chaos, but now it's like, you know what?
06:11It's going to force you to do something.
06:13It's going to force you to say, you know what?
06:14This is the person who's going to be in charge, because I think you put it best.
06:18Interim GM, okay, I'm going to make this trade.
06:20Next GM is like, whoa, I wouldn't have done that.
06:23Correct.
06:25You know what?
06:25I don't want this job.
06:26The only way it gets better is if Sider asks out.
06:29I need something to shake up the echoes here.
06:32Is this franchise alive?
06:35Oh, they're confident he'll show up to camp.
06:38I don't want Larkin at camp.
06:40He doesn't want to be here.
06:43He's going to be there, buddy.
06:46Just be prepared.
06:47Okay.
06:48Where's my C?
06:51It's with the dude from Switzerland or Germany or wherever the hell Sider's from.
06:57Another thing I didn't like about this offseason for the Wings, though, is in the middle of
07:01between when Iserman stepped down and now, they've also seemed to change their strategy.
07:06Because when Iserman left, the team said that he was going to stick around and continue
07:10to facilitate day-to-day activities, ensuring his seamless transition, and that he'd be
07:15part of the search committee for the new GM.
07:17Well, now all that's out the window.
07:19Horkoff's actually running things.
07:20Who knows what Iserman's actually doing?
07:22You've hired a third-party firm, so Iserman's not helping with the new GM either.
07:26So they've also completely trained their strategy in the offseason.
07:29You hired a third-party firm to end up on an interior candidate?
07:35And the idea that they told a third-party firm that a hockey background isn't necessarily
07:39something they need to have.
07:41Well, I believe you called it a turd party.
07:44It's a third party.
07:46I just want to make sure you don't get crucified on Texas.
07:48Okay.
07:49That's the Florida accent.
07:50It is.
07:51Lake Okeechobee.
07:52He meant third, not turd.
07:55Carry on, Paul.
07:55You're doing great.
07:56Well.
07:59Well.
08:00brought to you by the same firm that brought you Jonathan Smith.
08:05But the thing is, it's like, why are you looking for guys that might not have a hockey
08:10background?
08:11Why wouldn't that be a major thing?
08:13Maybe.
08:14Look, hockey.
08:14I guess.
08:15Look, hockey is kind of the last bastion of being data-friendly.
08:20And it's becoming more data-friendly.
08:22And the team that just won the cup was data-friendly.
08:25Paul, I'm just trying to explain it, but I'm with you in that it can't be this way.
08:30How the hell can you be without a GM?
08:32You're the Red Wings.
08:34It's just, I'm saying, the Jeremy Otto and the audio was, it was just like, what are we
08:41doing?
08:42It just feels embarrassing.
08:46It doesn't feel embarrassing, Mike.
08:48It looks embarrassing, because as of now, it is.
08:52Okay.
08:52No, because we don't even know what they're thinking.
08:56What about a turd party solution?
09:01Poor Paul.
09:02Go ahead.
09:03I mean, it's kind of being run that way.
09:06I've never understood the search firms.
09:08Have you?
09:09It's a good grift.
09:10It is.
09:11It's a great grift.
09:12Grift.
09:13Because so many coaches suck, but they're all recommended by search firms.
09:17The only thing better grift than that is to have your own law firm and then audit your
09:21own old university.
09:24Oh, boy.
09:29If you know, you know.
09:31I'll leave it alone.
09:32David, the text communications.
09:35Damn.
09:37That's a rough one right there.
09:38That was like, you were like Will Ferrell and Elle throwing the snowballs 800 miles an
09:42hour.
09:42Damn.
09:43Oh, hey, guys.
09:44Mike in a truck here.
09:46You hit it right on the head.
09:47I've been telling the guys at work.
09:49It's like the Red Wings are out of business.
09:51They're not even a team anymore.
09:54Someone else says, I also don't know what's going on.
09:58Questions with Cider.
09:59Questions with Raymond.
10:00Questions with Debrinkit.
10:01No one can answer them because no one is running the organization.
10:06And by the way, nice press conference to address Iserman quitting or being fired or whatever
10:12it is.
10:12Oh, wait, there wasn't.
10:14Oh, you missed it.
10:15It was while you were at Saratoga.
10:17Oh, wait.
10:18Yeah, it wasn't.
10:19Maybe it was Monday when I was out.
10:21Only in this town could an owner get away with that.
10:23That little two step.
10:25You Steve Iserman left.
10:27This wasn't some goofball people didn't like.
10:30This was the legend.
10:32He disappeared out of thin air.
10:36He's golfing.
10:37No press conference.
10:39Boiler plate chat GPT Gemini statement.
10:42That's what we get.
10:45Awesome.
10:46And that's all you'll.
10:47Yeah, you'll like it.
10:48That's it.
10:49We're working on it.
10:51From Steve.
10:52I don't think turd party is all that wrong.
10:54Just saying.
10:55All right.
10:56Just a big sign on the LCA back in five minutes.
11:01It's like when MSU like uses these firms to hire coaches.
11:05It's the same thing.
11:06It's a grift.
11:07Who recommended this guy?
11:09Oh, golden ticket search party.
11:12You're like, what?
11:13What did we pay you for this?
11:15You brought us Mel Tucker's penis.
11:17That's what you brought us.
11:21Someone else.
11:22They didn't use one and went and got Jonathan Smith.
11:24So there's that.
11:25Yeah, that's right.
11:26Paul Blart went rogue.
11:29Just for you, Paul.
11:30And I said that slip.
11:30Probably the greatest slip up in radio history.
11:33Guys, I don't understand it.
11:34You're using a turd party.
11:37Hey, sometimes the Florida man just escapes.
11:40I can't.
11:40That's okay.
11:40If you were saying that in like a pink tank top with pit vipers on, you'd really be Florida
11:45man.
11:45But Paul, looking at the entirety of the situation.
11:48Two-farted t-shirt.
11:50The entirety of the situation, it's apt.
11:54I'll allow it.
11:56Yeah.
11:57Just get you a mullet and knock out a few teeth.
12:01You'll be okay.
12:02Oh, come on.
12:04He's not from Daytona.
12:06He's from Fort Lauderdale.
12:07I mean, there is a difference.
12:08Is there?
12:09There is.
12:09There is.
12:10There is.
12:10Come on.
12:11There's Broward.
12:11There's Dade.
12:12There's Palm Beach.
12:12There's around Jacksonville and Orlando.
12:14And the rest is Arkansas.
12:15So, yes.
12:17You say you're from where?
12:17Fort Lauderdale?
12:18From Hollywood, Florida.
12:20Are there gold teeth there?
12:22Ask Cedric Irvin.
12:23Well, yes, there is.
12:25Hollywood's finest.
12:26All right.
12:28Maybe not a great example.
12:3197.1.
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