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00:00:04I don't believe in any truly thinking God who takes note of the fall of every bird
00:00:11in Australia and every insect in India. A God who records all our sins in a big book.
00:00:18of gold and judges us when we die. I don't want to believe in a God who voluntarily creates
00:00:25bad people and then willingly send them to roast in the hell of his own making.
00:00:32No, but I think there must be something.
00:01:15Thank you all.
00:01:41I could not control my actions because since childhood I have never been able to
00:01:46to see me as a real man and a complete human being. They followed me like dogs because
00:01:56I couldn't understand it myself. Maybe I had a magnetic gaze back then.
00:02:04I am ready to testify about the crimes I have committed but please do not torment me with
00:02:09the details because my mind couldn't bear them. What I did makes me tremble.
00:02:25Exactly. I don't want to make any mistakes. I think 55. 55 victims.
00:02:41Saci, Russia. A winter afternoon. It's cold. People are hurrying home.
00:02:56But one man, among the crowd, doesn't seem to be in a hurry. He looks around. Then something catches his attention.
00:03:09Or rather, someone. He approaches her cautiously. He talks to her. He asks her how she is. What her name is. Where she's going.
00:03:21The little girl tells him she's going to give birth to the youngest. But she doesn't want to do it on the street.
00:03:27If you want, I live nearby. It'll be a few minutes. You can go to the bathroom there.
00:03:32The little girl doesn't know she's going into the wolf's den.
00:03:39I was finally free. I had freed myself from all the shackles that had bound me.
00:03:45But that night, the night he commits his first murder, the night he kills the little alien, the monster
00:03:54commits a carelessness.
00:03:56He doesn't turn off the lights in the house.
00:03:59The images of Andrei Ciccatilo have entered the tragic gallery of the most ruthless murderers.
00:04:05Truly scary images.
00:04:07Because inside you can read the encounter between lucid madness and evil.
00:04:11Any child would tell you that this is exactly the ogre from fairy tales.
00:04:14And he wouldn't be wrong.
00:04:19December 22, 1978.
00:04:23Andrei Ciccatilo is 42 years old.
00:04:26He is married. He has two children.
00:04:28He's a teacher.
00:04:30In fact, he is one of the managers of the school where he works.
00:04:34He's a good man.
00:04:36He doesn't drink.
00:04:37Don't blaspheme.
00:04:38He is not violent.
00:04:40It's better than many seas.
00:04:42He has a degree.
00:04:44He is a convinced communist.
00:04:46He loves children.
00:04:56It was so hard to send our children to bed, to separate them from their father in the evening.
00:05:01How many hours on all fours on the floor to entertain them, to make them play.
00:05:05And how angry he was when Feina, his wife, confessed to him, some time later, that she had had an abortion.
00:05:17You allowed a doctor to kill my son.
00:05:23He scolds her, full of pain.
00:05:28This is the phenomenon called splitting.
00:05:38That is, the consciousness of the self splits, so to speak, horizontally.
00:05:45The right hand does not know what the left hand is doing.
00:05:48It is a splitting mechanism by which one can be one way, in a certain situation, another.
00:05:56So it's entirely possible that these people are loving fathers, even perfect citizens in a certain area.
00:06:06And then somewhere else, in the shadow, in the shadow of their own ego-consciousness, they are catastrophically destructive people.
00:06:20So it is possible.
00:06:21And if you think about it, this also happens normally.
00:06:25Many people are one way in one context, but another way in another context.
00:06:32Perhaps this happens to all of us a little bit, who are, as Shakespeare says, all the world's a play.
00:06:44Perhaps each of us plays his part and has another part inside.
00:06:49The old Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde always serves to indicate this phenomenon of splitting,
00:06:56which, normal, acceptable and mild in the norm of things, can become terrible.
00:07:05And you can have people who have two totally different conditions.
00:07:15This is the man who, on the evening of December 22, 1978, with a switchblade,
00:07:22he fatally wounds the little alien, strangling her with his hands,
00:07:26who throws the little girl's body into the waters of the Khrushchevka River.
00:07:31This is the man who, 12 years later, on November 6, 1990, killed Svetlana, a 22-year-old girl.
00:07:42This is the man who humiliates, kills, and mutilates 53 other victims: women, girls, and boys.
00:07:56This man, for everyone, is the Rostov Monster.
00:08:06Rostov-on-Don is a commercial city, an important city in the 12th century.
00:08:13and with some rather important palaces, of the rich aristocratic families and of the commercial aristocracy,
00:08:22because in some ways it was one of those centers where the East and the West met,
00:08:30of a certain intellectuality, but when one could see it in the 70s-80s,
00:08:38it was one of those sadly social-realist societies, with a suburb made up of prefabricated houses,
00:08:49old soon after being built, a city of extremely low vitality,
00:09:00with a dirty gray color and a smell of cabbage and bad gasoline.
00:09:13Rostov, 1200 kilometers from Moscow, on the right bank of the Don, is the largest city in the south
00:09:21of Russia, a populous province that brings together more than 4.5 million people,
00:09:28crossroads between the Russian plains and the Caucasus Mountains, between Europe and Asia, between Christianity
00:09:35and Islam. A crossroads of trade, traps, and...
00:09:42A safe destination today, for those looking for a nice wife without any crazy ideas in her head,
00:09:48they advertise marriage agencies.
00:09:55But in the 1980s, Rostov was a dangerous city. The economic crisis had filled
00:10:02the streets of the marginalized, the unemployed, people on the margins of society, all potential victims
00:10:10which risked going unnoticed for days, weeks, months, easy prey for a
00:10:18distorted mind.
00:10:24We imagine a normal city full of bars and taverns where people could sit down and have a drink.
00:10:31This was not there, there were some very expensive restaurants that had to be booked weeks in advance,
00:10:38So the people who were on the streets didn't know where to go. Here's the bench, here's
00:10:44why people sit on the bench, that's why the student who then maybe has a
00:10:49train in the evening that takes her 50 kilometers away home, etc., etc., that's why
00:10:55he moves in this circle among vagabonds, among those who have nothing to do, among those who wait
00:11:04a train, among those having a snack on the ground and with many benches and it is such a spectacle
00:11:12human also very interesting, very tender if you want, but also very dramatic.
00:11:23They followed me like dogs.
00:11:29Catilus tells us, many years later, to those who question him.
00:11:36I didn't need to go looking for them, they were there every step I took. I began to wonder.
00:11:43if these degenerate elements had the right to exist. It is not difficult to do
00:11:49getting to know these people. They don't try to hold back, they crawl right into your soul,
00:11:56asking for money, food, vodka, and offering sex. I always saw them wandering off to lonely places.
00:12:09Predestined victims, in a way.
00:12:16But why did Catilus kill so many times? Why didn't he stop? Especially among
00:12:21the Syrians and Achilles who kill for sexual pleasure, but almost all serial killers,
00:12:26daydreaming, fantasizing about a sadistic and brutal experience with the victim, is a moment
00:12:30fundamental. The behavior that the murderer displays at the crime scene derives precisely from
00:12:35from these fantasies that anticipate the action. But it is impossible for the victim to respond
00:12:39to the aggression in an exactly predictable way. There is always a difference between what was imagined
00:12:44and what is experienced in the field. There can never be a complete correspondence between expectations
00:12:49and reality. Here then is the fuel for new and ever more refined fantasies and for
00:12:55the desire to translate them into murder.
00:13:01At first, it's just the desire to fulfill his sexual fantasies. That's why Andrea
00:13:10Icicatilo buys a shack on the outskirts of Saci. He brings homeless people, prostitutes, and alcoholics.
00:13:19which he collects for a few pennies or in exchange for a glass of vodka. In this shack
00:13:26He secretly gives vent to his perversions. He transforms into a monster. Far from Feina,
00:13:37from that wife he never loved, never desired, who he will never be able to make happy. But
00:13:44especially away from the eyes of his fellow teachers and the school's students.
00:13:51The students don't like Professor Cicatilo. They don't respect him, they don't fear him, they don't appreciate him.
00:13:59The boys call him Goose because of a strange way he walks. Or worse,
00:14:06Fennel, because of the rumors going around about him.
00:14:11There are those who say that once Professor Cicatilo, the Goose, the Fennel, sneaked in
00:14:19at night in the boys' dormitory, who molested a student. But rumors are also circulating
00:14:27of harassing female students. Ania, a 13-year-old girl, tells her parents that the professor
00:14:36Cicatilo, while punishing her with the ruler. Insinuations always ignored by adults, by
00:14:46school management.
00:14:52And if this was part of normal life, that is, a certain roughness of people, that
00:15:01which today an American might perceive as mobbing, even today seems ridiculous to a Russian,
00:15:07no? A pat on the head, a this, you this, a little help, come inside and warm up,
00:15:14It seems to me that this was part of it and that the kids also told these things, at least
00:15:19as far as I remember, to the parents like that, like a joke, right? And that these went
00:15:27maybe they even told the headmaster, but this, well, wasn't the living sensitivity on this
00:15:35problem that seems to me to be an issue that dates back to not many decades ago.
00:15:44Once during a school trip on the river, it is hot, the water is fresh, the grapes,
00:15:56a very pretty fifteen-year-old girl, goes away to take a bath.
00:16:11Cicatilo can't resist, he follows her, he wants to touch her, he becomes insistent, he stops
00:16:32only when the others arrive. The rumors begin to circulate, insistent, they arrive
00:16:40up to the ears of Feina, his wife, but she too, like everyone else, ignores them,
00:16:47she considers them false, nothing more than rumors, so much so that one day she tells a friend.
00:16:52What do you want? Maybe he wanted to try someone younger.
00:16:57People who are very close to these characters, yes, yes, undoubtedly leave
00:17:03sometimes perplexed, because they say, but how could you? But I believe that very often,
00:17:12or maybe almost always, they are sincere. That is, they really think so, but you have to keep in mind
00:17:19two things take into account. On the one hand, the rigidity and efficiency of the split. Sometimes a
00:17:27person plays the other part perfectly, but there is also another point to take into account,
00:17:34that we are used to trusting our sensoriality, our perceptions, a little too much.
00:17:41In reality, we all see mostly what we want to see. And since then, let's say,
00:17:47It is possible that the wife, the son, the person who is close to these people, in reality
00:17:55They just don't see certain things. They let them slip by, deny them, push them away. They see
00:18:00only those they love to see, that is, the husband, the affectionate father. But those palenii of things
00:18:08left-wing ones that may appear, they cancel them out. So I believe there is sincerity. That
00:18:16that, let's say, there is no objectivity. This is not the case.
00:18:23The man who is known and married is an intellectual. He has always preferred sex to
00:18:30television or reading his beloved regime newspapers. Things between them in bed
00:18:36They've never worked, since their wedding night. It takes all your patience.
00:18:41of Feina and a week to consummate the marriage. It was due to shyness, he had thought.
00:18:48She. It will pass, but it had never passed. Feina, kind, she had never given up. But
00:18:58He had always been elusive. He had always withdrawn, increasingly embarrassed.
00:19:05Why don't we go to a therapist? She'd suggested it, after years of defeat.
00:19:11You're obsessed. You always think about the same thing. Every once in a while, try to think.
00:19:17to something else. He had answered her furiously.
00:19:25Once, in fact, he had indulged her. And they had gone to a sexologist. Only once,
00:19:32But then, he didn't want to go back. If only I had listened to you, Feniocchka,
00:19:38I had followed your advice and taken care of myself. He will whisper to her one day from behind
00:19:43prison bars. But in the meantime, Cicatilo has found a way to deal differently.
00:19:50his impotence, his fantasies.
00:20:03A man becomes a murderer when he cannot contain his impulses. We must do this.
00:20:09say. But we never talk about a fit of rage. A fit of rage starting from fantasy psychology. It's not that
00:20:14I'm normal and then one day I go crazy. It's just a habit.
00:20:19with aggression, perhaps well hidden, well concealed, which explodes one day. However
00:20:27It is never an event that triggers violence. It is always a path that ends with
00:20:32a violent act. This path should be investigated first. So, I don't know, a husband
00:20:37A man who habitually beats his wife may one day kill her. But the problem is
00:20:43It's not that day he kills her. The problem is that he always beat her and so this
00:20:46aggression has built a relational system based on the aggressive dimension
00:20:51which on a certain day ends in a certain violent and murderous act.
00:20:57December 24, 1978. The police find the body of the little alien. Two days have passed.
00:21:06since her death. The little girl's school bag is abandoned on the shore. Police officers nearby
00:21:13They investigate door to door. They direct their attention to Miesevoi Pieri Oloc, the street
00:21:21closer to the crime scene. Their suspicions focus on number 26. Neighbors say
00:21:28that in that house the light was on all night, not to mention the javai
00:21:33of women, girls, and vagabonds in recent months. The owner of the house is Professor
00:21:39Andriei Cicatilo. They interrogated him nine times. There were many rumors about him, incidents of harassment,
00:21:49testimonies from colleagues and students, but the man has an ironclad alibi.
00:21:55He spent the whole evening at home, with his family. His wife told the officers. The professor
00:22:03Thus he was removed from the list of suspects. In his place, six years later, he was convicted.
00:22:12to death an innocent man, Alexander Kravchenko.
00:22:19And if the police, the judges, the whole apparatus of justice were aimed only at crime
00:22:27political, to dissent, to the boycott of production, to theft, in a sphere completely
00:22:43different, completely abandoning what concerned, could concern personal life.
00:22:51I believe that the Police did not have, then Arostov around there, did not have the tools to operate
00:22:59in the right way. I would say a paradox, if this had been said below the Soviet Union, yes
00:23:06he would have been found in three months, if he raped some little girls, nobody knew where and how
00:23:13look for.
00:23:17The defamatory rumours, the accusations of harassment, the repeated police interrogations for the
00:23:24The case of the little line. Professor Cicatilo's reputation is tarnished. The school
00:23:31forces him to resign. It is March 1981. Cicatilo begins a new
00:23:40He works as an employee in the supply department of a company. This job takes him on trips.
00:23:46in the country. He must convince factory managers to increase production of supplies
00:23:53more requests. Sometimes he returns to the office with trucks full of construction materials. It is
00:24:01a disqualifying job for a graduate in Russian language and literature, but it has an advantage
00:24:07from freedom.
00:24:11People knew they could trample me and that I wouldn't defend myself. They could
00:24:16to hurt and humiliate me in any way they wanted. I felt the irresistible need
00:24:21to kill when I couldn't fight back against those who tormented me. If something went wrong
00:24:25in my life or work, I found myself again at the train station or in the forest.
00:24:31and so it all started again. That frustration kept me under pressure. It was boiling inside me.
00:24:36me every hour.
00:24:48Some of these trips lasted only a day, some a week, some even
00:24:55Ten days. No one can verify with certainty where he is or what he is doing. Cicatilo,
00:25:03Despite his frustration, he quickly realizes one thing. He's found his ideal job.
00:25:15I often spent time in train stations, on trains, trams and buses. There are
00:25:22a large number of vagabonds, both young and old. They ask, they demand, they take. They are
00:25:31drunk since morning. These vagrants drag minors into their activities. They crawl
00:25:38from the stations in various directions on board the trains. At the station and on the train I have often seen
00:25:45scenes of their sexual life. And I remembered my humiliation for never having been
00:25:51capable of fully realizing myself as a male.
00:25:56Ten or twenty years can pass between a traumatic event and the murders. A period
00:26:01during which the killer removed the trauma and moved it outside of his own
00:26:05awareness. A dissociation that allowed him to maintain sufficient control
00:26:09of reality and an acceptable adaptation to the world he lives in. But when a factor occurs
00:26:14triggering, a fact that also symbolically brings him back to the past as a humiliation or a
00:26:20abandonment, all balances are thrown off, threatening to overwhelm a precarious mental state, of
00:26:26annihilate. We must then face the anguish, the panic, the unbearable feeling of being
00:26:32vulnerable. Action is needed to regain control. Killing becomes a way to dominate.
00:26:38fear.
00:26:401981. Three years have passed since the little alien's death. Cicatilo is on the hunt again.
00:26:49He meets Larisa, a 17-year-old girl, at a bus stop. She is fascinated by him.
00:26:56from that older man, so cultured and gentle-mannered. Together they set off along a
00:27:03path leading into the woods. Soon the man's ways change. He becomes aggressive. The girl
00:27:11She rebels and begins to fight. Cicatilo is no longer able to control himself. He hits her.
00:27:18on her head, squeezes her neck, wounds her breast with a bite. Then, as if preyed upon
00:27:25an absurd delirium, he grabs the girl's torn clothes and in front of that torn body
00:27:31I suddenly fell into a dance. I felt like a partisan, like a hero who fought
00:27:37the Nazi invaders.
00:27:51There is a famous poem by Oden, W. H. Oden, great English poet, who had, let's say,
00:28:04the announcement of the outbreak of World War II. He wrote a poem entitled September
00:28:121939, which says this, and I translate it directly, but I and the public know what everyone,
00:28:22Even school children know. Men to whom evil is done, do evil in return.
00:28:30Those who are harmed, harm themselves in return. I think it can be summed up in two lines.
00:28:37a great truth, not only to whom harm is done, but also who are in the midst of it
00:28:43to wickedness. Wickedness is a bad counselor, a bad educator.
00:28:49Ukraine, 1936. The Soviet Union has sunk into poverty. The collectivization of the countryside
00:29:00imposed by the communist revolution reduces the peasants to starvation. Desperation pushes
00:29:07to cannibalism. Soldiers of the army were sent against the kulaks, the richest peasants.
00:29:16red. Remain undecided about creating heavy industry at the expense of agriculture. The police,
00:29:23indeed, those of the KGB and those who certainly don't know how to deal with what a pedophile is,
00:29:29They go from one house to another, they find that every farmer has a sack of grain. But they don't know
00:29:36that this wheat is the seed for the following season. Therefore in 1931 there is no
00:29:44reserve of nothing and the farmers find themselves suffering from hunger. Ulak, that is, the farmer
00:29:51rich, he is one who has a horse and a brick house. Ulak, of these, and these come
00:29:58deported. No family is spared from the horrors, not even that of Andriei Cicatilo.
00:30:06The father tries to adapt to the situation, finds work on a collective farm as
00:30:13laborer. It's a truce of a few years. Then the troops of Nazi Germany will invade.
00:30:22the Soviet Union. Andriei Cicatilo was five years old when his father was sent
00:30:28at the front. Ukrainian partisans organize a tenacious, violent resistance. Around
00:30:36He'll carry these horrors inside him for his whole life and they will make him
00:30:45He's a pedophile, a sadist, a cannibal. Let's not forget that this dimension of introjection
00:30:52The strength of the other also becomes a configuration of religions. When we take communion
00:30:59we eat the body and blood of Christ, which is a kind of symbol of cannibalism.
00:31:06And so from this perspective the underlying reason for this dimension is the increase in strength.
00:31:13through the acquisition of the enemy's strength.
00:31:16I was filled with disgust, the Rostov Monster will tell the psychiatrist.
00:31:22I always dreamed of capturing German soldiers, taking them into the woods, tying them to a tree
00:31:27and to torture them. I felt like a partisan, like a hero fighting the Nazi invaders.
00:31:36If that wasn't enough, on the cold winter evenings of his childhood, a perverse mother terrorized
00:31:42He and his little sister with terrible stories. One of them is the one in which his brother Stefan
00:31:46He was kidnapped, killed, and then starved to death during the 1930 famine in Ukraine.
00:31:52Even today we don't even know if this brother ever existed.
00:32:00Our older brother, I think he was six, went out of the house looking for something
00:32:06to eat, but then he never returned home. It was said that he had been killed and eaten.
00:32:13This fact has always tormented my brother. Our mother tells this story several times.
00:32:18and I would go crying. Many went mad, attacked other people, ate them. So they took
00:32:30My brother was ten years old and they ate it. My mother often told me about it. She told me
00:32:35stay inside the courtyard or they will catch you too and eat you.
00:32:45At school I was always teased, I didn't know how to defend myself. If I didn't have ink
00:32:50or the pen, I sat and cried.
00:32:55A shy, introverted child with no friends. His classmates remember him this way.
00:33:02And he, Andriei, hates them during his school days, he's afraid of them. He's convinced that everyone
00:33:09They want to hurt him. He's convinced they want to know his secrets. He doesn't want to
00:33:15that it is known that he wets the bed. Or worse yet, that he is short-sighted. Myopia becomes the
00:33:22His obsession. He thinks it's his fault he can't read from a distance. So
00:33:28He doesn't tell anyone, not at home, not his teachers, not his classmates.
00:33:34He doesn't want to be made fun of. He doesn't want to be called Oshkarik, four eyes.
00:33:56The girl who begins to tell lies, it is clear that she becomes a slave to a vice that
00:34:04Tomorrow it could really ruin it. Because what drives you to tell a lie? It's always
00:34:09I'm afraid of an evil, I'm afraid of a gain, of something that is pressing on you, that goes against you
00:34:13the truth.
00:34:16Andriei Cicatilo, however, sees us closely. Thus, reading becomes his refuge. He reads.
00:34:23anything that extols the heroism of the communist partisans. Become an excellent student,
00:34:30then a brilliant member of the Communist Party. Makoto, a terrible complex. He can't
00:34:38to have sexual intercourse with girls. He's impotent. He's homosexual. He's Pinocchio,
00:34:48There's talk of him. It's a kind of persecution. He's starting to believe it too, but the anger...
00:34:55that is in the body is about to explode. Certainly fate has not been kind to
00:35:01Cicatilo. First he afflicted him with such severe myopia since he was little that it affected him
00:35:06life. Then, in adolescence, it condemned him to a series of sexual difficulties. And he
00:35:11then he began to think that his flaws were not just a sad coincidence, the sign
00:35:15of bad luck, but the effect of a deliberate attack suffered as a newborn. A curse
00:35:21in which he could not react without accumulating anger. An anger that would explode, it was
00:35:25inevitable, just a matter of time.
00:35:30Sitting, hugging a girl, he squeezes her tightly. She's annoyed. He tries to free himself.
00:35:39first gently, then more and more frantically, almost fighting. Then finally he lets go.
00:35:45go. Yet that day Cicatilo learns the pleasure that comes from dominating another
00:35:52person. He will never forget the girl's terrified look. It's a feeling he won't
00:36:01will abandon more. Most of us act out situations in our imagination
00:36:08ranging from the most innocent to the most aggressive, giving it a substantially positive value
00:36:13and often therapeutic. In the serial killer, violence and sex are secondary to a pleasure
00:36:18major, which is the total control of the victim. This is such an important fact that often
00:36:23The victim's death is a kind of unwanted accident. This explains the story.
00:36:28of those who managed to survive, just by doing everything the attacker asked
00:36:32them, obedient slaves to his fantasies of total control.
00:36:38Liena, a nine-year-old girl. Larisa, 17. Cicatilo killed twice between 1978 and 1980.
00:36:50and 1981. June 1982. The Rostov Monster kills again. Liuba, 13 years old, then six more victims,
00:37:06before the end of the year. The eldest is 19, the youngest is only 9. Her name is Oleg,
00:37:15It's a child. For the first time, the killer kills a male. His body will not be
00:37:23I've never found it again. I can't stand the pain I feel and see anymore. I can't stand the people anymore.
00:37:31bad girl who hurts herself. I can't stand all the times I wanted to make amends anymore.
00:37:36and I couldn't. I can't stand being in the dark anymore.
00:37:40A killer who kills without distinction of object is a particular situation that stands alone.
00:37:52I would identify it as a Gilles de Ress syndrome, Blue Beard syndrome, because it was the
00:37:59first. Gilles de Ress was a French feudal lord of the early fifteenth century who killed
00:38:073000 people, including children, girls, boys, toddlers, etc. I think it still has
00:38:17the record. After that, this situation sometimes occurs, which has two characteristics:
00:38:26in this context. The absolute non-specificity and generic nature of the object both on the temporal level
00:38:36both on the level of sexual gender. They are people who kill living human beings. Generally
00:38:45the distinction is made by going into the female gender, into the adult, but no longer into the child
00:38:54where there isn't one. And it doesn't matter what age they are or what gender they are. Which proves
00:39:02that these are very particular situations in which a primitive and disorganized nature appears from the background
00:39:12aggression that no longer has anything to do with the sexuality that it ultimately represents
00:39:17a more evolved, more specific instinct. These people have the characteristic of striking
00:39:26the object no longer has any specificity. They are extremely dangerous and catastrophic people.
00:39:32Males, females, children, women. Victims united by death, but in reality different.
00:39:43in life, by age, social class, and family upbringing. Cicatilo kills them cruelly,
00:39:51He stabs them, mutilates them, tears them to pieces. They all die after atrocious agony.
00:40:03They all have terrible wounds around their eyes. Sadism takes no pleasure in death.
00:40:12of the other, but from the suffering of the other. And these are two different things. So in the moment
00:40:19where the person turns off the desired object in this perverse way, when he turns it off
00:40:29Sadism is over. Sadism exists when the other suffers and the suffering
00:40:35of the other is transformed through a complex, perverse process into his pleasure. Sometimes, however, it is necessary
00:40:44It is said that these people follow rituals. One of the rituals may be hitting people.
00:40:52in the same place, hurt in the same way, repeat a gesture. The ritual is always reassuring,
00:41:00it serves to prolong the act endlessly, to always repeat the same act, which reassures the person
00:41:10of a certain total control of the object, of a certain omnipotence. Of course there are organs
00:41:16which are privileged, for example the eyes, violent aggression with blindness
00:41:24It raises a major ancient problem regarding the sexual meaning of sight. Therefore
00:41:34the eye becomes strongly charged with elements of a guilty, anguished nature,
00:41:42of an ancient type and above all it is loaded with sexual meaning, hence the control
00:41:49visual not only has the meaning of control, but also has a sexual meaning with
00:41:54all the blame, so it is likely that the eye is a particularly affected organ in this situation.
00:42:09Russian authorities decide to form a special police team. This is the operation
00:42:15called Lesopolosa, a path in the woods. A special task force from Moscow also arrives.
00:42:24Vladimir Kazakov is part of this unit. He was the first to realize that the murders were behind them.
00:42:30There is only one hand, the hand of a serial killer. But incredibly, almost no one knows about it yet.
00:42:39This story. It's not talked about in the press, it's not reported on the news. People
00:42:46in Rostov he doesn't know that there is a ferocious killer on the loose.
00:42:54The Russian newspapers, the Soviet newspapers, did not carry crime news, they did not even carry
00:43:00the negative facts for socialism, because socialism produced, won, conquered
00:43:06to the five-year plans. Usually the editorial opened as a success of some kind
00:43:12colossus that produced 5 more cows than expected. Therefore, the interesting things
00:43:19of politics could be glimpsed between the lines, but certainly not the crime news. The news
00:43:25black is an achievement of the first Gorbachev period, of this glasnost, but then before
00:43:34that the censor had completely disappeared both from reality and from the minds of those who made
00:43:41the newspapers have been around for many years.
00:43:47Investigators are convinced that these brutal murders are the work of a mentally ill person.
00:43:54mind. Investigations begin in mental institutions, arrests are made,
00:44:02The first confessions, forced, were later retracted. Searches are also being conducted in prisons.
00:44:1125,000 people are being profiled, it's a titanic undertaking. Hundreds of thousands of data are being processed.
00:44:18Transcribed by hand, but there's a problem. The killer continues to strike.
00:44:27There are already more than 20 victims. Then, finally, a clue. March 27, 1984. The
00:44:37body of a 10-year-old boy, Dima, mortally wounded, 54 stab wounds around the eyes.
00:44:44not far from the body a footprint, the imprint of a rather large foot, 43-44 in size.
00:44:52And not only that.
00:44:56Someone saw the boy walking away with a stranger, a few minutes before the
00:45:01crime. She's a woman.
00:45:06He tells the police that he only saw him from behind, but that's enough to describe him.
00:45:12Height 1.90 m. Age between 50 and 55. Distinguishing features: glasses and a handbag. But
00:45:21One detail in particular. The man is dragging his leg slightly. The hunt for the citizen begins.
00:45:29X, the elusive serial killer. The pattern with which Cicatilo arrives at killing is that
00:45:38common to many serial killers. A kind of cycle studied by an American psychologist who
00:45:43His name is Joel Norris. The first phase is called auroral, during which the killer slowly
00:45:49he withdraws from reality, into a world of increasingly precise and articulated fantasies, which push him
00:45:54into action. Then comes the targeting phase. The killer is on the hunt for his prey.
00:45:59On a terrain that he studies carefully, concentrated, determined, he has transformed into a predator
00:46:04lethal. The seduction phase is the approach to the victim, which is precisely
00:46:09first seduced, then deceived and overwhelmed. In quick succession comes the capture phase,
00:46:14then the murder, then the totemic one. This represents a particular and important moment,
00:46:20when the serial killer tries to prolong the pleasure derived as long as possible
00:46:24from killing. Hence the photographing, the dismembering, the cannibalistic acts, the taking possession
00:46:30of body parts or objects of the victim as trophies. As soon as the illusion vanishes,
00:46:35pleasure fades and the murderer realizes that nothing has changed in his life, omnipotence
00:46:41savoured in disposing of the life and death of his victim leaves room for the profound
00:46:46inadequacy, the impossibility of overcoming the abyss of one's own loneliness. It is the phase
00:46:51Depressive. The cycle is complete, but slowly the fantasies begin to invade the mind again.
00:46:56of the killer, who returns to hunt for a new victim.
00:47:02Psychiatrists also work alongside the investigators. They must draw a portrait.
00:47:07psychological impact of the killer. One of them comes very close. His name is Alexander Bukanovsky.
00:47:14For him the mysterious killer is a man of normal appearance, probably married, with a job
00:47:23regular and not the crazy maniac everyone thinks he is.
00:47:49The stages of development of psychiatric pathology are different from individual to individual because
00:47:54Madness is always personalized and I'm not crazy like you. So when psychiatrists
00:47:59they say schizophrenia they are not saying anything at all because my way of being schizophrenic
00:48:04It's not someone else's way of being schizophrenic. So psychiatry, until it becomes
00:48:10individualized, he is not saying appropriate things. That said, the stages of development are through
00:48:17signals that are very often barely perceptible because they resemble our signals.
00:48:25Depression may begin with a sort of bad mood, lack of motivation, things that everyone
00:48:30How many we experience and don't notice. The slow process of depressive development.
00:48:38makes it so that it reveals itself when I am already immobilized, I look at the ceiling and I don't
00:48:43I move more. So let's say, then we are in a crazy condition. But the ascent towards
00:48:48This condition goes through the same stages as all normal people. All of us
00:48:52we have a kinship with madness and we can understand it precisely because we experience it.
00:48:58Aleksandr Bukanovski is convinced that the killer is a person suffering from trauma
00:49:03sexual abuse behind his back. This drives him to brutalize his victims. With these beliefs
00:49:10He ventures a surprise move. He tries to contact the killer through television.
00:49:18I know it's difficult for her, I know it well and I realize that sometimes she goes through
00:49:24moments of deep despair and desperation. I know that at times you are prey to violent impulses.
00:49:29outside of his will and not rendered his thoughts, his actions. He turns to
00:49:35Come to me, look for me, call me, find a way to get in touch with me. Please.
00:49:42But are serial killers born or made? Aleksandr Bukanovski, professor at the University of
00:49:48of Rostov, he has no doubts. He, together with the Russian police investigators, dealt with
00:49:52investigations on the cicatino and since then he has never stopped studying serial killers. He has examined
00:49:57the brains and psyches of 57 other maniacs and murderers and concluded that all were
00:50:03born to kill, because they have evident brain modifications, the consequence
00:50:08of frozen factors. The Russian psychiatrist has identified three of them, present in all subjects
00:50:12that he studied. A cyst, then a flattening of the contours of the cerebral convolutions
00:50:18and finally the right shift of the cerebral diaphragm with significant breast enlargement
00:50:23frontal. All the areas affected by these malformations are responsible for the structuring
00:50:28of personality, ethics, and instinctive desires. For Bukanovski, the serial killer
00:50:34he is a morally impaired individual and without any fears in his instinctive life, but he is also
00:50:39detectable in advance, with a simple CT scan, and he is a man who, if caught in time, can
00:50:45be treated. September 13, 1984. Inspector Zanasowski is tailing a man. He noticed him
00:50:58for the first time two weeks earlier at the train station. A tall man, with
00:51:04thick glasses and a clean suit. In an hour he approached at least a dozen girls.
00:51:11He finally makes a faux pas. He molests a girl. The inspector approaches him, beats him up.
00:51:19a hand on his shoulder, shows him his badge, then searches his bag. Inside are
00:51:28a kitchen knife with a 20cm blade, some strings, and a jar of Vaseline. I think
00:51:37that he found citizen X, he tells the officer on duty at his station, when at dawn
00:51:43He delivers Mr. Cicatilo to him. Cicatilo is sent to prison, ten days for disturbance.
00:51:54of public peace and punishment for those who harass women. But that's what the police need.
00:52:00to perform tests on the compatibility of his blood with traces of seminal fluid
00:52:07found on the victims. But Cicatilo's blood is of group A and the seminal fluid instead
00:52:15He is blood type AB. His blood and sperm don't match. This is a shock to investigators. Only four
00:52:24years later a Japanese research disproved the theorem that the blood and sperm of a
00:52:29people are always from the same group. This is a very rare case, but it can happen.
00:52:36In one case in 10,000, perhaps one in a million, the two liquids may be from different groups.
00:52:42But meanwhile, Citizen X is released. He killed 32 people. He will strike again.
00:53:01I don't really believe in this speech or person so bad that it can only be completely
00:53:09crazy and therefore can't know what's going on... It's not true, it's not true. Bad guys exist.
00:53:16And how if they exist? And there's no need for them to be crazy in this sense, to be unaware.
00:53:23of their actions and of the social significance of their actions. In fact, another is that
00:53:30It's very important. It's that these people don't have empathy, they are disempathic, as you
00:53:37he says. They know very well what they are doing, they know the suffering it causes for others, they know
00:53:44the transgression that it entails for society, they know that this should not be done, they know
00:53:50all this, but they don't care. They don't care. The suffering of others leaves them
00:53:56indifferent. In fact, it is sometimes transformed into one's own pleasure.
00:54:06After being released from prison, Cicatilo finds work as a clerk in a locomotive factory
00:54:12near Nova Cercassa and starts travelling again, taking trains, frequenting
00:54:19the bus stations, to kill. In Musca, on the borders of Siberia, in the mountains
00:54:29Urals, near Rostov, Ukraine, within a radius of hundreds of kilometers, but still in close proximity
00:54:36of railway lines. Frequent business trips with short trips home. It's a job
00:54:43that no one wants to do. Endless hours on trains, nights spent in dirty hostels
00:54:50of the factories. His colleagues don't understand him. That man, so detached, silent, indifferent
00:54:58To the insults of their bosses, it's a mystery to them. And then, always that bag, which he never leaves.
00:55:07So, once, taking advantage of a moment of absence of cicatilo, some of them did not
00:55:14They resist temptation and open it. But it's a disappointment. Inside, there's only a bar of soap.
00:55:20and a towel. None of them can imagine that the most sadistic, most wanted citizen
00:55:28of the Soviet Union, he is that reserved and silent man.
00:55:40November 6, 1990. The Berlin Wall fell a year earlier. Things are changing.
00:55:54Don Lashkos Station. The sergeant assigned to guard that small outlying post.
00:56:01I'm only twenty years old. Around four in the afternoon I notice a man. A guy in his fifties, I live
00:56:09Gray, tie, glasses, and a shoulder bag. One of the many mushroom hunters in the area,
00:56:16He thinks. But there are two details that intrigue him. A red spot on his cheek.
00:56:26and a bandaged finger. The sergeant approaches the man and asks for his documents. Comrade
00:56:34He'll tell him, he can go, he tells him, dismissing him. At the end of the day he leaves his report on the
00:56:42boss's desk. Seven days later, the body was found nearby, savagely
00:56:48A girl's mutilation. Sergeant Rybakov's report is pulled from the drawer.
00:56:57November 20. Three plainclothes police officers stop Cicatilo in front of a bar. The scene is
00:57:10filmed by an officer with a hidden camera.
00:57:47What did he study at? Rostov University. What major did he major in? Languages. Does he have a family?
00:58:04Married with two children. Wedding date? 1900, I don't remember. Anything else to add?
00:58:32The rest is news. The news goes around the world. The on-site inspections with the killer
00:58:39At the crime scenes. The detailed reconstructions of the atrocities. The interviews.
00:58:50What did you do here? I approached a woman at the bus stop. Which stop?
00:58:59Show it to us. That one. Where did you take it? To the left of the Don River. The trial.
00:59:16The relatives' desperation. The senseless, delirious, and disorganized
00:59:25the monster's joy. The monster inside the cage. His devilish eyes.
00:59:34I think I'm a mistake of nature. I disgust myself.
00:59:41On February 16, 1994, a news agency dispatch stopped Andrei Romanovici Cicatino.
00:59:48executed this morning. But the story of the Rostov Monster is one of those destined not to be
00:59:53be forgotten so quickly. Because some are starting to say that maybe Cicatino isn't dead.
00:59:59Because his defense attorney had gotten the green light for an appeal trial
01:00:03in the autumn of '93. And then that disturbing news came out in Der Spiegel shortly before
01:00:08of Christmas of the same year. There were two research institutes, one American and one
01:00:13European, who wanted to examine the killer alive and for a considerable sum of money.
01:00:18Metropolitan people have no basis in opinion, but that's not what really matters.
01:00:22What matters is that Andrei Romanovici Cicatino represents the embodiment of
01:00:26of evil, the monster, which seems difficult to have captured and defeated. It must still be
01:00:31alive. Maybe in one of those cells, like the Silence of the Lambs. And instead, no,
01:00:36He will not be able to add any more suffering to what he has already given to the world.
01:00:48I've already said everything, everything, without stopping. Wherever I went, wherever I worked I
01:00:57I left corpses. I killed I don't know how many people. I lost count. I was confused,
01:01:08unconscious. I had three knives in my jacket pockets and in my bag.
01:01:27I threw myself at anyone I hit. I have a calm character, a feminine character, a character
01:01:41like an idiot. I did nothing but cry and faint. They treated me so badly. It was necessary that
01:01:58I took revenge on someone. It was a kind of mental relief, a sexual relief.
01:02:08What else do you want me to tell you? I'm still a wild wolf. I've become a savage.
01:02:19in this society. I am a monster, a mistake of nature.
01:02:34Waves of anger and fear circulate through the bright and darkened regions of the earth,
01:02:41haunting our private lives. The unspeakable stench of death offends the September night.
01:02:53The public and I know what children learn in school. Those who are harmed,
01:03:04they will do harm in return.
01:03:24We go to school.
01:03:34Thank you all.
01:03:58I don't want to make any mistakes, I think 55, 55 victims.
01:04:12Sachi, Russia, a winter afternoon, it's cold, people are hurrying to get home.
01:04:26But one man, among the people, doesn't seem to be in a hurry.
01:04:34He looks around, then something catches his attention.
01:04:40Actually, someone.
01:04:43He cautiously approaches her, talks to her, asks her how she is, what her name is, where she is going.
01:04:52The little girl tells him that she needs to pee, but she doesn't want to do it in the street.
01:04:58If you want, I live nearby. It'll only take a few minutes. You can go to the bathroom there.
01:05:04The little girl doesn't know she's going into the wolf's den.
01:05:10I was finally free. I had freed myself from all the shackles that had bound me.
01:05:15But that evening, the evening he commits his first murder, the evening he kills the little girl,
01:05:24the monster commits a carelessness.
01:05:28He doesn't turn off the lights in the house.
01:05:31The images of Andrei Ciccatino have entered the tragic gallery of the most ruthless assassins.
01:05:36Truly scary images.
01:05:38Because inside you can read the encounter between lucid madness and evil.
01:05:41Any child would tell you that this is exactly the ogre from fairy tales.
01:05:45And he wouldn't be wrong.
01:05:50December 22, 1978.
01:05:54Andrei Ciccatino is 42 years old.
01:05:57He is married. He has two children.
01:05:59He's a teacher. In fact, he's one of the principals of the school where he works.
01:06:05He's a good man.
01:06:07He doesn't drink, he doesn't swear, he's not violent.
01:06:10It's better than many marines.
01:06:13He has a degree.
01:06:14He is a convinced communist.
01:06:17He loves children.
01:06:27It was so hard to send our children to bed, to separate them from their father in the evening.
01:06:32How many hours on all fours on the floor to entertain them, to make them play.
01:06:36And how angry he was when Feina, his wife, confessed to him, some time later, that she had had an abortion.
01:06:48You allowed a doctor to kill my son.
01:06:53He scolds her, full of pain.
01:07:04This is the phenomenon called splitting.
01:07:09That is, the consciousness of the self splits, so to speak, horizontally.
01:07:16The right hand does not know what the left hand is doing.
01:07:19It is a splitting mechanism by which one can be one way, in a certain situation, another.
01:07:26So it's entirely possible that these people are loving fathers, even perfect citizens in a certain area.
01:07:37And then somewhere else, in the shadow, in the shadow of their own ego-consciousness, they are catastrophically destructive people.
01:07:51So it's possible.
01:07:52And if you think about it, this also happens normally.
01:07:56Many people are one way in one context, but another way in another context.
01:08:03Perhaps this happens to all of us a little bit, who are, as Shakespeare says, all the world's a play.
01:08:16Perhaps each of us plays his part and has another part inside.
01:08:20The old Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde always serves to indicate this phenomenon of splitting,
01:08:27which, normal, acceptable and mild in the norm of things, can become terrible.
01:08:36And you can have people who have two totally different conditions.
01:08:46This is the man who, on the evening of December 22, 1978, with a switchblade,
01:08:53he fatally wounds the little alien, strangling her with his hands,
01:08:57who throws the little girl's body into the waters of the Krusiebka River.
01:09:03This is the man who, 12 years later, on November 6, 1990, killed Svetlana, a 22-year-old girl.
01:09:13This is the man who humiliates, kills, and mutilates 53 other victims: women, girls, and boys.
01:09:27This man, for everyone, is the Rostov Monster.
01:09:37Rostov-on-Don, a commercial city, an important city in the 12th century
01:09:44and with some rather important palaces, of the rich aristocratic families and of the commercial aristocracy,
01:09:53because in some ways it was one of those centers where the East and the West met,
01:10:01of a certain intellectuality, but when one could see it in the 70s-80s,
01:10:09it was one of those sadly social-realist societies, with a suburb made up of prefabricated houses,
01:10:20old soon after being built, a city of extremely low vitality,
01:10:31with a dirty gray color and a smell of cabbage and bad gasoline.
01:10:45Rostov, 1200 kilometers from Moscow, on the right bank of the Don, is the largest city
01:10:52of southern Russia, a populous province that brings together more than 4.5 million people,
01:10:59crossroads between the Russian plains and the Caucasus Mountains, between Europe and Asia, between Christianity
01:11:06and Islam. A crossroads of trade, traps, and...
01:11:13A safe destination today, for those looking for a nice wife without any crazy ideas in her head,
01:11:19they advertise marriage agencies.
01:11:26But in the 1980s Rostov was a dangerous city.
01:11:30The economic crisis had filled the streets with marginalized people, unemployed people, and people on the margins.
01:11:38of society. All potential victims who risked going unnoticed for days,
01:11:45weeks, months. Easy prey for a distorted mind.
01:11:56We imagine a normal city full of bars and taverns, where they had to sit down and have a drink.
01:12:01This was not there, there were some very expensive restaurants that had to be booked weeks in advance,
01:12:09So the people on the streets didn't know where to go. Here's the bench, that's why
01:12:15people sit on the bench, that's why the student who then maybe has a train towards
01:12:21evening that takes her 50 kilometers away from home, that's why she moves in this circle
01:12:31among vagabonds, among those who have nothing to do, among those who wait for a train, among those who have a snack
01:12:37on the ground and with many benches and so it is a very interesting human spectacle,
01:12:45very tender if you want, but also very dramatic.
01:12:55They followed me like dogs.
01:13:00Catilus tells us, many years later, to those who question him.
01:13:07I didn't need to go looking for them, they were there every step I took. I began to wonder.
01:13:14if these degenerate elements had the right to exist. It is not difficult to do
01:13:20getting to know these people. They don't try to hold back, they crawl right into your soul,
01:13:27asking for money, food, vodka, and offering sex. I always saw them wandering off to lonely places.
01:13:44I don't believe in any truly thinking god who takes note of the fall of every bird
01:13:51in Australia and every insect in India. A god who records all our sins in a big book.
01:13:58of gold and judges us when we die. I don't want to believe in a god who voluntarily creates
01:14:05bad people and then willingly send them to roast in the hell of his own making.
01:14:12No, not this. But I think there must be something.
01:14:55Thank you all.
01:15:22I could not control my actions because since childhood I have never been
01:15:26able to see me as a real man and a complete human being. They followed me like
01:15:33dogs. Why? I couldn't figure it out myself. Maybe I had a magnetic gaze back then.
01:15:44I am ready to testify about the crimes I have committed, but please do not torment me with
01:15:49the details, because my mind couldn't bear them. What I did makes me tremble.
01:16:01Exactly.
01:16:02Exactly.
01:16:04What I did.
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