00:01Doug Carr, Scott Anderson, 97.1.
00:04All right, so we got a little insight on what the thought thinking was
00:06with the offensive line.
00:08And listening to Brad Holmes with the Detroit Lions Collective,
00:12here's where we're going to get right into the philosophy,
00:14which I think is everybody in Detroit wants the same thing, right?
00:18All Lions fans want to see that team raising Lombardi,
00:21the Lombardi Trophy, Dan Campbell holding it high in the air,
00:24and this team doing the unthinkable, winning the Super Bowl,
00:28which is, in many people's minds, it is the unthinkable.
00:31But, you know, they're going to play a season next year,
00:34and they're going to try.
00:36We all want the same thing.
00:37Any debate over it really centers on what's the correct way of getting there,
00:41right?
00:41The debate is, okay, how do you get to the top?
00:45Brad Holmes has this philosophy,
00:47and we'll start with the financial constraints that he mentioned,
00:52and you heard him say when he was talking about Borum and Cade Mays,
00:58this is sort of the core of his philosophy,
01:01and here's where he speaks to it.
03:11And because he wants to sign his own guys, there are financial constraints.
03:17And so when you get into free agency, the best free agents don't want to sign that one-year contract,
03:21which they like one-year contracts because the big money they've got to spend on Gibbs and Campbell.
03:28And presumably LaPorta and branch, I mean, he's talked about, I'd like to see him move around a bit.
03:32So he's probably pausing that a little bit, but Gibbs and Campbell are going to cost money.
03:39And you know, you might, you could debate whether or not a running back is worth extending in this world,
03:45but it's pretty clear that that's what future money is earmarked for.
03:51And so when you start talking about the best free agents, they cut into those budgets.
03:56It's a different way of doing things.
03:59It's a different way of doing things, but it's, it's his philosophy and he's clearly sticking to it.
04:04Well, that is his philosophy and he's, he's a GM.
04:07He can do what he's going to do.
04:08We can disagree with it.
04:09And I think, I think it's a mistake to not give yourself some flexibility.
04:14I think it's a mistake to commit to your guys because you're falling in love with your own guys and
04:22maybe not being farsighted enough to see who's a free agent or who's going to be a free agent and
04:28say, well, if I can get that guy at the same price, would I rather have that guy?
04:32But you're automatically locked in because they're your guys.
04:35I think that there's a flaws in this, um, this way of doing things, but you know, for the lions,
04:43it's, it's worked to an extent.
04:45It hasn't been good enough.
04:47No, it hasn't been good enough.
04:48That's worked to get them to be competitive.
04:50They're very competitive.
04:51Yep.
04:52Um, but this philosophy now with the constraints is preventing this team from looking at better players in the off
05:04season.
05:05So we, we, we, we went through this the other day, ticket items.
05:08Well, they don't have to be big ticket.
05:10We've looked at it, the, the, all the players that they signed and the only one that for sure is
05:18better than what they had is.
05:20And even we're still not even for sure, but pretty sure it's Kate Mays.
05:24Yeah.
05:25Everything else that they've brought in is, are they, you know, depth?
05:29At one point he implied, okay, like he said, look, Amik Robertson and, uh, Elkuddin Muhammad.
05:36These are players that they signed to minimal contracts that just got big contracts.
05:43And he implied that he thinks they just did that with their next round of players, that they signed to
05:49minimal contracts, players who will outperform those contracts.
05:51He made that implication.
05:54He believes, okay, for what it's worth, clearly listening to him.
05:58He believes that we're undervaluing a player like Larry Borum.
06:04He believes that we are perhaps undervaluing a player like a DJ Wonham and that those guys will outperform their
06:10contracts that a, that, uh, the Izzy, the safety will outperform his contract.
06:15I like Izzy in a lot.
06:17Yep.
06:17Um, one of them, not, not so much.
06:19And if these guys are the contracts that have been on or just, there's one year deals.
06:23Yep.
06:24Um, and he believes that those guys will do what, but Akeem, what Elkuddin Muhammad did and Amik Robertson.
06:31And that is signed bigger deals because they'll outperform those contracts.
06:34Yeah.
06:35I, okay.
06:36That's his belief.
06:36It's not my belief.
06:37And I think that when you're talking about Elkuddin Muhammad, he didn't get a giant contract.
06:42He got one year and 6 million.
06:44That's a Brad Holmes special for the same money though on the cap this year.
06:49Okay.
06:49On the cap this year, he got DJ Wonham and Cade Mays for the same money.
06:54No.
06:54On the cap this year.
06:56Well, on the cap this year, he did.
06:59Because what is, what is Mays, I mean, Mays is annual value is 8 million, but his cap
07:04hit this year is 2.7 and DJ Wonham is less than that.
07:09And so on the cap this year, he fit two players that he thinks are going to play for him
07:14for
07:14the price of Elkuddin Muhammad.
07:15And when he talked about Elkuddin Muhammad, he didn't say this was him, but he said guys
07:19that, and I can't remember his exact wording, but, and I'm just interpreting his philosophy
07:25here.
07:26Okay.
07:27But he said guys that are just free running at the quarterback get gashed in the run
07:31game.
07:32Yeah.
07:33And they're a better team when they're stopping the run.
07:35There's no question about that.
07:36When injuries started to mountain this team that they, they went, you know, first few
07:39games of the season or first five games of the year, they were very good against the
07:42run.
07:42But then injuries came in and not only their run defense got worse, their, their pass rush
07:47got worse.
07:48And yeah, there's lots of metrics to look at with that.
07:51I just, I kind of, I kind of roll my eyes when it comes to this, this topic, because it's,
07:56we talk about it all the time.
07:58Cap space is to be manipulated, however you want to manipulate it.
08:02And he's manipulating it too.
08:04And, um, and, and I don't necessarily agree with how he's manipulating the cap space.
08:10I, it, you could have created more, you could have asked golf to give up more, you could
08:15have gone to another player and restructured another contract.
08:18Um, and I think what, what the lions are in danger of doing, what Brad Holmes is in danger
08:23of doing is just trying to keep this team good and not going for the great.
08:29And the fans want the chance to go for the great.
08:32The fans want this team to go for it.
08:34Take a bite on the big apple, make a big move, make a splash move.
08:38Like Philly does Philly drafts extraordinarily well.
08:41And they make big splash moves, you know, do something like that.
08:45Do something with the Rams are doing F them picks.
08:47I'm just going to go get guys going to make this team better.
08:49Give us a chance to win the Superbowl because this team has a core group of players.
08:53It looks like they can win, you know, some games.
08:55If you get another big player to the mix and the reluctant to do that because of constraints
09:01and a, and a self-imposed constraints that are brought on by their philosophy.
09:07I feel like I don't want them to make a move just to make a move Gator, like, you know,
09:11whether it's the Rams or Eagles, but I'm glad you brought those two teams up because I feel
09:14like the lions are playing by rules that no one else is playing by.
09:18Like the, the way they operate is like, why do these other teams able to manipulate the
09:22cap and do all these moves and trades and free agency and the lions are not, and I'm not
09:27a capologist.
09:28I know it's very, you know, uh, it's the, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole.
09:31I'm sure it's a very, you know, hard to figure that out, but what the, I think the whole point
09:37of the interview yesterday, honestly, was that financial constraints.
09:41I think, I think he just wanted that out there and then the rest of the stuff will answer,
09:44but I think he wants everyone to know we're not spending money because we don't have the
09:47money.
09:48And that was his message.
09:49Yeah.
09:49And that's fine.
09:50Believe it or not.
09:50Yeah.
09:51So you know who else has financial constraints?
09:53Like if you look around 31 other teams.
09:55Yeah.
09:55And you know who else is looking for edge rushers right now, new England, San Francisco, Chicago,
10:02looking for edge rushers fans.
10:04Like, where's the edge rusher Kansas city doesn't know who their starting corners are
10:08going to be at the season starts.
10:09Like you, we don't see that other teams have, have issues to other Superbowl contenders.
10:15I brought those teams up cause they're, you know, they have Superbowl aspirations.
10:18And so, yeah, there are, there are holes to be filled here.
10:22It's important to remember.
10:24It's not unique.
10:24It happens around the league.
10:25Other teams, fan bases are panicked over certain things that haven't happened yet, but we'll
10:33get to more of your phone calls and feedback on this.
10:35And, uh, he goes a little bit more into his philosophy.
10:38Also, why won't them over Muhammad?
10:41And he talks about what still could be ahead in this off season.
10:45All that with Brad Holmes.
10:46Thanks to Detroit lines, collective good stuff there.
10:48Uh, 1235, another edition of, are you going to eat that?
10:52We'll talk from tigers before the show is done.
10:53And the season starts tomorrow, man.
10:57Unbelievable.
10:58And people still reacting in the big news regarding Kevin McGonigal making the team out of spring
11:02training.
11:02All that coming up before the show is done.
11:04Carson Anderson, 97.
11:06One.
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