"I Pity Britain!" | One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson 'Doesn't Want Australia To Become Like UK'

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"I Pity Britain!" | One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson 'Doesn't Want Australia To Become Like UK'

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00:00In a talk breakfast exclusive by the leader and founder of the One Nation Party in Australia,

00:06Pauline Hanson. Good morning, Pauline. Good morning, Mark. Hello. A delight to have you on

00:11the programme. Can you tell us about the current state of Australia with its incumbent Prime

00:18Minister? How are things in Australia, economically, immigration and all the rest of it?

00:25Well, Mark, good question there, because I feel that economically we're hitting a trillion

00:30dollar debt. And on top of that, we've actually got mass migration. And one year between 22

00:36and 23, they're brought in 740,000 people. We've had the highest immigration levels into

00:42the country for 100 years, since the beginning of the last century. People are just fed up

00:50with the major political party, both of them, actually, the Liberal and the Labour Party.

00:56And the Prime Minister is not really liked. But then again, we haven't really got a good

01:02opposition leader. And they've just changed it again just a few weeks ago, the opposition

01:05leader in Australia. So it's dire straits.

01:09So it seems like the two main parties, we've got a similar issue here, Pauline, which is

01:13the uni party, whether it's left or right, the policies are broadly the same.

01:18Correct. So they haven't got policies. The coalition government here, because Labour is

01:24the government in Australia. So the coalition government, they haven't put out their policies.

01:28They've got no policies whatsoever. The people are fed up the major political parties, no

01:32patriotism in Australia anymore. They've fed up where the country is headed. They're worried

01:37about the future generations. We've got people living in poverty. They can't access decent health

01:42care, housing. There's a shortage in housing. It's just terrible in Australia. And the people

01:49have had a gutful of the major political parties. They're looking for change.

01:53And it's my understanding, Pauline, that legal immigration is proportionally higher than

01:59across most of the free world, including the United Kingdom. Why have the establishment

02:06opened the borders to such an extent?

02:09I think it's to prop up the GDP, gross domestic product in the country. So they've overspent

02:17beyond their means. You know, the credit card just comes out all the time, putting it on the

02:22credit card. We can't afford it as a nation. And we're paying about 50 billion a year, about

02:2650, $50,000 every minute on our interest loan. So we can't cope with that anymore as a nation.

02:36No. Mass immigration, Pauline, that's cooking the books, isn't it? Because it creates temporary

02:42economic growth, but not per head, not per Australian, not per Brits.

02:48No, we go backwards in Australia. So, you know, years ago, you could actually, you could buy a house

02:54with about three times your age. Now it's 14, 15 times your age to actually buy a house in Australia.

02:59So the medium house price is a million dollars plus. And that's how expensive it is. And young

03:04Australians can't afford it to find $100,000 just as a deposit. It's out of their realm. They can't

03:11afford it. And the foreign investors in this country is out of control, which I want to stop

03:14foreign investment in Australia, not only of our housing, but also of our land, prime agricultural

03:20land. Why is common sense so absent from the Australian political establishment?

03:27I, hey, it's not just not Australia. I think this is a worldwide problem, don't you think?

03:33Yeah. It's happened in Britain. You've got so many problems over there. And all I got to say to

03:37people out here, I don't want Australia to become like Britain. I think we're only a matter of years

03:42behind Britain and what's happened over there. And that's my argument. I don't want Australia to

03:47become like Britain. Look, my parents, my grandparents came from Britain. I love England.

03:52I love traveling over there. And I think it's a beautiful country. But I just don't want Australia

03:59to become the way that Britain has. Well, I think it's damning, Pauline, that you've said that,

04:04that you are worried that Australia will become like the United Kingdom. And how would you

04:09characterize the perception of Britain from Australia? What do you think is going so horribly

04:15wrong in Britain? I think you've lost your national identity. I think there's no pride

04:20in flying the British flag. I think that people don't know who they are anymore. The amount of

04:26migrants you've led into the country, there's no pride for them ever to assimilate or become British.

04:30I have concern about Sharia law. You've got over 2,000 Sharia law, you know, or mosques in the country.

04:38I think, you know, that is a problem. We have it in some of the suburbs in Sydney,

04:42Sharia law. And it's not compatible with our culture and our way of life. And you can't just

04:49go along and let blindly ignore it, because it undermines your culture, who you are as a nation.

04:56And I think I welcome people from around the world, migration, but we need to cut back to we can

05:02provide

05:02the housing and the infrastructure for the people here in Australia. I don't want to see people living in

05:07their cars. I don't want to see families living there. I don't see the pensioners that aren't

05:12looked after to provide them the decent health care they should be getting. And what about our

05:17veterans? Number of veterans that are living on our streets or suiciding is appalling. You know,

05:24my responsibility as a member of parliament is to the people of Australia first and foremost.

05:28And then when you can manage that, fine, have more migrants, if it does support our

05:36resources that we have. But I'll tell you now, Mark, we were supposed to have 26.4 million people

05:42by 2050. Do you know, we've already reached 28 million, 24 years ahead of that time.

05:51It's shocking. It's unsustainable. It's unprecedented. Historically, there's no hope of integration

05:56or indeed of economic success to come from those levels of immigration, Pauline. Are we now in a

06:03situation, given the fact that you're a very significant political figure in Australia, that

06:08in fact, you feel sorry for Britain, that you pity what's happened to Britain?

06:13I really do. I feel for the people over there that they've lost hope in themselves. Look, all those

06:20migrants, I see the refugees that were put in the hotels and accommodations, the people were on the

06:24streets, they're protesting over it. I see the crime that's happening on the streets. And the rights

06:29of those migrants are above the rights of the British citizens. I saw one councillor there in

06:35an interview said, I was born and bred. As soon as she said it, she put a hand in her

06:39mouth, oh my god,

06:40I shouldn't have said that. What the hell is happening over there? That just upsets me so much.

06:45And that's why I'm determined that will not come here. And I will keep standing up for Australia,

06:50the values here. So if you want to come here, you give your loyalty to this country.

06:55Don't use our laws to change our culture and our way of life and our laws to suit yourself.

07:01Don't come here. Pauline, I agree with every syllable of what you've said. How much support

07:06do you have from the Australian public in your ambition to close the border, to have sensible

07:12immigration, to have a sensible energy policy, and to bring back common sense?

07:17How significant is your support now electorally?

07:22Well, at the last election nationally, we increased double the vote number of representation.

07:28Wow.

07:29So we did that. And from that election, we had only six and a half percent nationally the vote.

07:35Now our national vote is up to 28 percent. And some seats were even out polling the coalition.

07:45We're going to an election by-election, first federal by-election since then, and it'll be in about

07:51nine weeks' time. We're in the low 30s. The coalition is on 20 percent and the national party on 10

07:59percent.

08:00Now we're way above them and the Labor Party even aren't going to send a candidate.

08:06And today, I tell you what, I was nearly in tears today when I got off the plane. And the

08:11number of

08:12people that are coming up to me, even Chinese, Australians, and people with different cultural

08:17backgrounds, but people came up to me and just said, keep dying. Please don't give up. You're

08:21our last hope. Just the support. And it just, it was a bit overwhelming for me. And I realize that

08:27people

08:28say to me, you are our last hope. And, you know, I've been in this 30 years this year,

08:35this week, on 2nd March. 30 years ago, I was elected to the Australian Parliament.

08:41And it's been a long road. But now, you know, to hear that from the Australian people,

08:45it breaks my heart that people feel that I'm their last hope. It's not terrible the way

08:50what it gets to. It's devastating. And Pauline, you've been a lonely figure in the past,

08:58calling out the madness of these globalist policies. Like you said, it's happening

09:01across the West, you know, open borders, the madness of net zero, wokery in public institutions,

09:08not knowing the difference between a man and a woman, that sort of stuff. But you're not such a

09:13lonely figure now, with huge popular support. Can you ever get close to power?

09:21I think the possibility is there. If we can win the seat of Farrah, it's going to put a real

09:26strong message out to both the major political parties who are both worried about the Labour Party,

09:31are very interested and scared about the rise of One Nation. Because we're not just taking the

09:37coalition conservative vote, which we are a very conservative party. I'm not

09:42extreme by no means. But even the Labour Party, they're losing voters. And a lady said to me

09:48today, she said, I've always voted Labour. She said, no more. I'm voting One Nation. So we're

09:52pulling the votes from both sides of politics. It's going to be very interesting how this vote goes

09:57in the seat of Farrah. It's been a lonely place for you in the past. And you've shown political courage,

10:04political will as well, Pauline. Have you paid a personal price for your position and your

10:12wider comments?

10:15Have I paid a price? I know that years ago, in 2003, I did 11 weeks in prison, in maximum

10:24security,

10:25as Australia's first political prisoner. That was started by the former Prime Minister,

10:30Tony Abbott, before he became Prime Minister of the country. It's had its ups and downs. But,

10:36you know, I love my country. I feel for the Australian people. And if I'm not there speaking

10:43up for them, who will? Because, you know, these politicians just get so comfortable on those

10:49green leather chairs and the red leather chairs and don't really, really understand how important

10:56their job is to represent the people of this nation without fear or favour. And that means having a

11:02voice because the people out there can't, they haven't got a voice. They depend on us to give

11:06them that voice and speak up on their behalf. I take that with, you know, so much dedication and

11:14and, you know, respect for the job that I have. And I'm not going to back away. I don't back

11:19away

11:19from what I truly believe. And I've been the first one to come out against the COVID

11:25injection, the first one to oppose the voice, the first one to back away from this net zero

11:31climate change rubbish that's been, you know, foisted upon us. So, you know, and people respect me now

11:38because I haven't backed away from it. I'm consistent with my policies, with my message,

11:42and I stand true and firm and they trust me.

11:47And Pauline, you are not a career politician. You've lived in the real world, which is at the

11:53heart of your political philosophy.

11:57Well, and truly I have, you know, I'm married at 16, my first child at 17. I've had four children.

12:04I've

12:04been a single mother most of my life since 87 as a single mother rearing my four children by myself.

12:09I've run businesses. I've had cattle life. You know, I've had a plumbing business with one of my

12:16husbands. So, you know, employing staff and apprentices. So I've had a wide range of jobs

12:22and different things that I've done. So I'm a grassroots person and I'll never, ever forget that.

12:28I've had my hard times and that's why I can relate to people out there who are doing it tough.

12:34Now, Pauline, many of my viewers and listeners tell me on this program,

12:38they feel that Nigel Farage, the leader of Reform UK, is Britain's only hope. I understand you've

12:44spent some time with Nigel. What do you make of Nigel Farage and the Reform project?

12:50I like Nigel. When I've spoken to him and I saw him the first time, well, when he came on

12:56his trips

12:56to Australia and I sat down and I had a talk with him. I've met him again at Mar-a

13:03-Lago at a dinner

13:03one night and I sat down with him as well. And I think Nigel has the heart of Britain.

13:12You know, I think he is concerned about mass migration, what's happened to Britain.

13:17And I think we're very much on the same page. And it's up to the people. What I say to

13:22people out

13:22there, go and look at the policies, understand and research for yourself. Don't believe what the media

13:29will tell you. Understand the person. Listen to them personally. Because the media and self-interest

13:35groups and those aggressors out there will actually try to pull you down and distort the true message.

13:42People must really go and research yourself. Is Nigel Farage the person for you to lead your

13:48interests, where you want your country to go? You've got to research that.

13:53And why have the Australians abandoned the importance of national identity and patriotism?

14:04I think the policies over the period of time, our Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese,

14:09tried to introduce a voice to parliament, and that was an Aboriginal voice. So it's like a separate

14:14parliament with Aboriginals who will look at legislation and approve it before it comes before the parliament.

14:22We have elections here. So anyone can stand for elections. Now we have about 11 members that

14:27elected to parliament of Aboriginal and Aboriginality. Now, that's a process that's fair and equal.

14:35People around the country, over 60% rejected the voice to parliament, which was divisive. That's

14:40exactly what it was. It's dividing our nation again. You know, other things that have happened,

14:47the mass migration bringing people in, I think they're bringing a lot of people in purely for the vote.

14:51They actually opened up the floodgates to bring in people from Gaza. A lot of these people

14:56have a different mindset, supported terrorism, the Hamas in their own country. You know,

15:03who are we bringing into the country? I think we have to be mindful of who we bring in.

15:09Most definitely. And it's obviously particularly raw at the moment, Pauline, following the awful

15:14Bondi beach attack at the tail end of last year, which is absolutely devastating for the people of

15:21Australia, a truly horrific incident. What are your thoughts about the threat of radical Islam

15:28in Australia? Because it's something that we're grappling with here.

15:33I think we shouldn't take our finger off the pulse for that and don't disregard it,

15:38because I think we should know what's going on. I personally, after what's happened at Bondi,

15:44we've had other terrorist attacks previous to this, but Bondi was a big awakening to a lot of Australians.

15:50And we have to ensure that who we bring into the country are going to be part of this nation.

15:56Don't

15:56bring your hatred here. Don't bring your ideology or your beliefs to this country that is incompatible

16:02with the Australian way of life. Like I said, I don't agree with Sharia law. I don't think it is

16:07compatible with our laws in Australia. And therefore, I will continue to speak out against it.

16:14Have you been demonised by the political and media establishment, Pauline? Have they tried to

16:19characterise you as an extremist or far right? Of course. My whole 30 years, constantly. It never

16:26stops. I'm a threat to them. Your media here are so lefty. They really are. And they've been brainwashed

16:34in our educational system, in the universities. And then you have the owners of these organisations,

16:40the media organisations that are pushing them. And the biggest one in Australia is the ABC.

16:46They're so lefty. It's unbelievable. And they're the equivalent of the BBC in Australia, aren't they?

16:51And they're paid by the taxpayer $1.2 billion a year to run this radical organisation,

16:57as far as I'm concerned, which is not fair and equal in delivering critical way of thinking or,

17:04you know, objective way of thinking or politics in Australia.

17:09Now, Pauline, you had your own boats crisis in Australia in the early 2000s. And there was a policy

17:17called Operation Sovereign Borders, which was very successful, and it ended illegal immigration.

17:23But do you feel now that in 2026, with mass legal migration, that that great legacy has been squandered?

17:32No, all during that period of time. Actually, I was the one at the time I was in Parliament,

17:37and I had the rise of One Nation back then at that time, that I said, turn the boats back.

17:42And John

17:43Howard took up that policy. And that was Operation Sovereign Borders to turn the boats back. At that

17:49time, also, we had a lot of people coming in via planes. And once they landed by the planes,

17:54with the planes, they destroyed their identification. That was told to me by the Australian Federal

18:00Police. They destroyed their identification. We have a lot more people coming into Australia now

18:06via planes and destroying their identification. Or once they land here, then they claim that if they

18:12go back to their own country, they'll be persecuted. So then they claim asylum once they landed in

18:17Australia. It's a big problem. We've got over 100,000 people have overstayed their visas. We've got 4.8

18:24million people in Australia who are on permanent or visas in Australia. So we have a huge number of

18:30people who are abusing our laws using our court systems to further themselves. We've got foreign

18:35students coming in here, then they actually then change their course, what they want to do, then get

18:41a bridging visa, then they start working. And we've got about 10, it's estimated between 10 to 15 billion a

18:47year leaves our country by these workers, international workers coming here as students

18:52or other workers coming into the country. Pauli, what would you say to someone that would try to

18:58characterize you as racist or Islamophobic? I just feel that they're not ready to have to debate me or be

19:08truthful about what is happening in our country. I'm not going to apologize to anyone for being a

19:13patriotic Australian that cares about our culture and our way of life, respect the men and women that

19:17have fought and died for what we have in Australia. So it's an easy way. People, you know, criticism is

19:25not racism. To raise issues about immigration, the impact it's having on the country is not racism.

19:32So my job as a member of parliament is to raise these issues, debate them and then find out the

19:38answers.

19:38Like I said, my responsibility is to the people here in Australia, first and foremost. And then when

19:45we can clean up our own backyard, then you might be able to look at bringing other people in the

19:49country. I've had people from all different races that have stood for me, cultural backgrounds,

19:54I should say, have stood for me as candidates, as I have in South Australia, you know, a lovely fellow

20:00who's from South Africa. He's actually standing as a candidate. I've had a Muslim stand for me

20:07in one of the elections. I've had Indians, I've had Chinese, I've had all different cultures.

20:12So it's rubbish. Well, that's right. The support for One Nation in Australia, Pauline,

20:17is very similar to Reform UK in Britain. It's multi-ethnic support. And Nigel Farage's

20:23shadow cabinet is a multi-ethnic shadow cabinet that contains Muslims among people of other faiths.

20:31So you're right about that. I've got to tell you, you're winning a lot of plaudits here.

20:34You could easily be Prime Minister of this country. So why don't you jump on a plane?

20:39This from MQ. Sanity will prevail. What a woman Pauline is.

20:44Rob says, good morning, Mark. Your guest is amazing. She needs to come to Britain and

20:49join Reform and be the Deputy Prime Minister. Amazing, grounded politician. Hallelujah.

20:55God bless Pauline, says Michael in Islington. We don't have time for all of the praise.

21:00Before I let you go, Pauline, I've heard the emotion in your voice as well. You love your country.

21:04You're a patriot and you want to save Australia. What keeps you going on a daily basis?

21:12You know, like I said to you today, the people come up to me and they just,

21:15and so many people come up and just, can I hug you? They say, I feel as though, and I

21:20just give

21:20you a hug. And just feeling, and these people are trembling. It's just amazing. I can't express it

21:26to you. My daughter said to me this morning, she said, Mum, I don't know how you keep going.

21:30What keeps you going? And when I can save lives of children to get them a vaccination, if I can

21:36save that person who, you know, has the right to stay in the country, and I invite them to stay,

21:41for them to stay in the country, helping the farming sector, the pensioners, the veterans,

21:45these ones, you know, otherwise, I don't know where it would be. So I get satisfaction out of

21:52helping those ordinary people out there who don't know where to go, who to turn to.

21:57Well, it's clearly a very persuasive message, Pauline. This from Paul, who says, wow,

22:03common sense and critical thinking from the land down under. Great job, Pauline Hanson.

22:11I want to ask you, Pauline, before we let you go, what about net zero? How is it impacting

22:16the Australian economy? Yeah, dreadful, actually, Mark. We've actually had electricity bills go up

22:27here over 300% in the last 10 years. We've got pensioners living, you know, not able to put on

22:33the heating or the cooling. We've lost over 1,400 industries manufacturing, 40,000 small businesses

22:42have closed down. The stress in small businesses now, 45% are stressing to be able to pay their

22:47power bills. It's escalated so much. So the impact on households, the cost of living's gone up.

22:54It's stressful in Australia for a lot of people. And that's all driven by this net zero that they've

23:00brought in for 1% of the emissions. And it's been, you know, follow the money. Who's making money out

23:06of this? It's got nothing to do with that, changing the climate. We cannot change the climate.

23:11And Pauline, what do you think is behind woke ideology? You are a woman, a biological female,

23:18you have children. So you know what a woman is, unlike many in the media and political

23:22establishment. What do you think is behind the woke stuff? And what do you make of it as a common

23:27sense individual? Look, I think that people have gone into these positions in bureaucrats and different

23:35ones who have been pushing their own agenda. That's their own agenda. Look, people out there,

23:40who do have different sexual preferences, like the LGBTQ, that's their business. Don't push it

23:48onto anyone else. There are two biological sexes, male or female. Do you know in Australia, you know,

23:54on birth certificate of your child, you can determine what sex you want that child to be.

23:58It's just gone completely ridiculous. At four years of age, they're telling the kids in these

24:03childcare centers and talking to them, you can choose whether you want to be male or female. The

24:08sex discrimination commissioner in Australia will not define what is the male or female.

24:12This is how stupid it's got in this country.

24:15Stupid, stupid, obscene from an incredibly enlightened nation in Australia, which might

24:20just be saved by Pauline Hanson, either in power or by influencing and shaking up the establishment.

24:26Pauline, we are so grateful for your time. We know how packed your schedule is. And I do hope

24:31that we'll have the privilege of your company again in the near future.

24:34I'd love to. And I appreciate you having me on. And I do give all my regards to the people

24:39of

24:39Britain. I love Britain. That's half my heritage is British, and I'm so proud of it.

24:45And you're always welcome to come back home, maybe on a permanent basis, Pauline. I know my viewers and

24:49listeners would love that. Pauline Hanson, leader and founder of the One Nation Party in Australia,

24:54which, just like Reform UK here in Britain, is making huge electoral progress. Could Pauline Hanson be

25:02a national figure in the Australian political scene. Watch this space.

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