“This Muslim Culture Is Creeping In” | Labour To Appoint ‘Anti-Muslim Hostility’ Tsar

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“This Muslim Culture Is Creeping In” | Labour To Appoint ‘Anti-Muslim Hostility’ Tsar

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00:00Morning, Sarah Pochin.

00:01Jesus Christ.

00:02I'm sorry, Jeremy, I shouldn't laugh, but I think if we don't laugh,

00:05we'd cry, wouldn't we, at the state of the nation.

00:08What is going on?

00:10I just, I've ranted so much, I'm past ranting,

00:13I think I'm going to go into a facility.

00:15I'll let you, I'm going to throw this all at you,

00:17the First Lady of Reform, we're going to talk about jury trials,

00:19we're going to talk about the Greens, we're going to talk about flags,

00:21but we're going to start with, it turns out, and I get this,

00:26that a majority of people in this country perhaps don't support

00:28being involved in a war that was going to finish quickly

00:30and Peyton Lee isn't, I get that.

00:32Nigel was at Mar-a-Lago this weekend with Trump,

00:35but the fact of the matter is, the weakness of Starmer

00:39is about his lack of leadership, Sarah,

00:41because I've always been of the opinion that you and I

00:43can disagree on something, but if you hold your position

00:45and I hold mine, that's a democracy, but he doesn't.

00:48Even when Blair came out and criticised him,

00:50I'd have taken aim at Blair and gone,

00:51this is exactly why I've got this position,

00:53because you took us into an illegal war, you idiot,

00:55but he didn't. He cozies up to Blair,

00:58he then apologises to Trump,

01:00and he's left looking impotent, isn't he?

01:03Surely one of the main functions, if you like,

01:07of the Prime Minister is to convey to the people

01:11that voted him in why he is doing the things he's doing,

01:15what he believes in.

01:16And my view on this whole situation in Iran

01:20is that Keir Starmer should have done two things,

01:22come out very clearly and explained to the British people

01:26that the threat of the Iranian nuclear capability

01:30is a long-term and entrenched threat

01:33that needs to be stopped.

01:36The second thing that Keir Starmer has made a big mistake on

01:40is not supporting our allies.

01:43And I mean by that,

01:45not necessarily in the bombing of Iran,

01:48but in allowing them to use our military bases.

01:51Our stance would always be with a reformed government

01:55that we will stand by our allies.

01:58So Keir Starmer has made two fundamental errors

02:01in the way he is communicating and explaining his position

02:05to the British people.

02:06And of course, he then U-turned,

02:08which just makes him look so weak once again.

02:14And in a time of global crisis,

02:16and let's not underestimate this is a global crisis,

02:21every country is looking to the leader to be strong,

02:24to be quite clear in their position,

02:27and to put the British people first.

02:30But you know what you've said,

02:31and you're absolutely spot on, I love you,

02:33but communicate your position.

02:36He doesn't know his bloody position, Sarah.

02:38He is so used to, I think,

02:41trying to play the I'll please all the people.

02:44If I said it, and I'll say it all, Sarah,

02:47if I had been his communications chief,

02:48the minute Blair spoke out,

02:49I'd have been high-fiving everybody,

02:51because I would have put my man out there and gone,

02:54right.

02:54The reason I did this is that we didn't end up

02:56in a position like that idiot got us into

02:58in an illegal war, right?

03:00This is my decision.

03:02A majority of you agree with me.

03:03I admit I should have done it.

03:05None of that.

03:06None of that.

03:06That's what's wrong with him.

03:07You try and please all the people all the time,

03:09you end up alienating most of the people.

03:12We know, you know this scathing tweet

03:14that Donald sent, which said,

03:16the United Kingdom are once great ally.

03:18This was Saturday morning.

03:19Maybe the greatest of them all is finally giving

03:21serious thought to sending aircraft carriers

03:23to the Middle East.

03:24That's OK, Prime Minister Starmer.

03:26We don't need them any longer,

03:27but we will remember.

03:29Wow.

03:30We don't need people to join wars

03:32after they've already been won.

03:33Do you think that tweet was the result of Nigel

03:35being in his ear over dinner on Friday night

03:37at Mar-a-Lago?

03:38But it's a very powerful tweet, isn't it?

03:41Very powerful words.

03:43You know, nobody needs support once the...

03:46Well, Donald Trump has just said the war is won.

03:48I don't think...

03:48I think we're far from that.

03:49But the point is, is nobody wants allies

03:51when it's too late.

03:53You need people.

03:53And would Margaret Thatcher have ever not stood up

03:57and stood by, side by side,

03:59with Ronald Reagan in this sort of situation

04:02and allowed the Americans immediately

04:03to use our bases?

04:05Of course she wouldn't.

04:07And that's what the British people want to see.

04:09But I'll tell you what,

04:10Starmer has got people in his ear,

04:12like mad Ed Miliband,

04:14you know, telling,

04:15oh, you know,

04:16don't worry about oil prices,

04:18let's just build some more solar farms

04:20or put some more wind turbines in.

04:22This is a crazy situation.

04:24We have, reportedly,

04:26only days' supply of gas now in this country.

04:29We are sitting on,

04:31standing on,

04:32walking on,

04:33years,

04:34decades' worth of gas

04:35under our very own feet.

04:37I don't get it.

04:38A reformed government

04:39will get gas out of our ground.

04:41A reformed government

04:42will get oil

04:43out of the North Sea.

04:44We don't need to be

04:45in this situation, Jeremy.

04:47It's got up to $114 a barrel.

04:49The oil crisis

04:50is going to impact

04:50the rest of the world.

04:51The cynics are saying

04:52that's why the Donald

04:53went into Venezuela,

04:55because he's fine.

04:55But here's the deal.

04:56I've never...

04:57I said it earlier,

04:58I'll put it to you.

04:59I'm skint, right?

05:01Literally,

05:02in a terrible, terrible way,

05:04but in me attic

05:06is a family heirloom

05:08that's worth so much money

05:10that it'll get rid of all my debts.

05:12I'm going to sell it.

05:13No, we're not.

05:14We're not going to upsell it,

05:15because it might upset grandad.

05:16Sod grandad.

05:17I'm selling it.

05:18I don't understand

05:19the theory

05:20that we're spending

05:21$10, $12 billion a month

05:23in interest on debts

05:24we cannot afford,

05:26and underneath,

05:27to coin the phrase

05:28that nobody likes,

05:29there's your money,

05:30liquid gold.

05:30It makes no sense to me.

05:31It makes no sense.

05:33But then so much

05:34of this government

05:34don't make any sense.

05:35Do you think, by the way,

05:36the Labour Party called...

05:37Some of the PLP

05:38are calling for the Foreign Office

05:40to postpone

05:40the King's State visit to America.

05:42Do you think that will happen?

05:44Or do you think it'll go ahead?

05:45Look, do you know what, Jeremy?

05:46I think the British people

05:47couldn't give a toss

05:48about the King's State visit to America.

05:50They're worrying

05:50about their energy prices.

05:51They're worrying

05:52about their bills.

05:53And the fact is

05:54that we could bring down

05:56those bills.

05:56We don't have to suffer

05:57this oil.

05:59We don't have to suffer

06:00this lack of gas.

06:01We've got all of our resources here.

06:03And a reformed government

06:04will put the British people first

06:05and worry about the energy bills

06:07in our homes.

06:08But, you know,

06:08who cares, really?

06:10I'm not being frivolous,

06:11but who cares

06:11whether the King goes to America

06:13this month,

06:14next month,

06:14or in six months' time?

06:15The fact is,

06:16we have a global crisis.

06:18We have an energy crisis.

06:19And the people in this country

06:20cannot pay their energy bills.

06:22And the people that I look after

06:24in my constituency of Runcorn

06:26and Hellsby

06:27really could not give two hoots

06:30whether the King

06:30or when the King

06:31goes to America.

06:33They cannot pay

06:34their household bills.

06:36I could completely put as ever.

06:38We're going to talk jury trials

06:39in a minute.

06:40We're going to talk about flags,

06:41but I want a straight face here,

06:42please.

06:43My father-in-law is listening

06:44in the car,

06:44and he thinks you're the best thing

06:45since sliced bread.

06:47Whilst World War III

06:48is on a precipice,

06:49Army chiefs have launched

06:50a review,

06:51the results of which

06:52have arrived this morning,

06:53into whether male soldiers

06:54can wear make-up.

06:55Apparently,

06:57stay with it, Jess,

06:58all serving soldiers

06:59have been asked

06:59whether they think men,

07:01under gender-free changes,

07:02it's all right to wear make-up

07:04with long hair,

07:04hair extensions,

07:05painted nails and earrings

07:07to war.

07:08Pete says,

07:09I'm a bit confused.

07:10How can a bloody soldier

07:12load or fire a gun

07:13with long nails?

07:14But that doesn't mean

07:14that we're sexist here

07:15on the Jeremy Kyle Breakfast Show.

07:17Is that really where

07:18we've got to

07:19as the United Kingdom,

07:20as Great Britain?

07:21You can have long hair

07:22and nails

07:23whilst the rest of the world

07:24is up in arms

07:25about what's going on.

07:26What is wrong with us,

07:27Sarah Pochin?

07:28It's awful.

07:29How utterly embarrassing

07:31for the British people,

07:32how humiliating

07:33for the British army.

07:35You're not telling me

07:36that these soldiers

07:37agree with this kind

07:38of nonsense.

07:40And I'll tell you what,

07:40under a reformed government,

07:42all of this woke,

07:44liberati rubbish

07:44goes out the window

07:46because people,

07:47young men and women

07:49that join the British army

07:50do so to protect the country

07:52because if they are needed,

07:54they will go into war

07:56and they will put

07:56their lives on the line.

07:57They couldn't,

07:58again, you know,

07:59who is syncing up

08:00this stuff

08:01in an office somewhere

08:03in Labour HQ?

08:04I'm sure of it.

08:05Mate, your morning's

08:05not going to get in it.

08:06That's military madness.

08:07Your morning's

08:08not going to get in it.

08:09Now, watch her face

08:10if you're watching on YouTube

08:11because it's going to contort

08:12and she's going to say

08:13something worse

08:13than what she did before.

08:15According to a government

08:17social cohesion

08:20strategy meeting,

08:22I can't say,

08:23Rob's going to be

08:24head-butting

08:24the windscreen of the car,

08:25flying the English

08:26and union flags

08:27on streets

08:28has been linked

08:28to tools of hate

08:29in a leaked government draft.

08:32It warns that flags

08:33are being used

08:34to exclude

08:35and intimidate

08:36and that the far right,

08:38who are the only people

08:39that fly them apparently,

08:40have used the symbols

08:42of pride

08:43and they've turned

08:43them into hate.

08:44They've also decided

08:45it would be a really good idea

08:47in 2026

08:48to appoint

08:48an anti-Muslim hostility czar,

08:51an apologist for me swearing,

08:52but no bloody sign

08:54of an anti-Semitism

08:55hostility czar

08:57anywhere in this country.

08:59Disgraceful.

09:00It is disgraceful

09:01and we cannot underestimate

09:03the creeping threat

09:04of cultures

09:07coming in

09:08and being allowed

09:09to dictate

09:10in this country

09:12how we think

09:13and how we behave.

09:15It's a foreign culture

09:16that is not,

09:17and this is not acceptable

09:18and I get,

09:20you know,

09:20I know I will get abused

09:21for saying this,

09:23Jeremy,

09:23but the fact is

09:24that this Muslim culture

09:25is creeping in,

09:26it is not healthy,

09:28it is divisive,

09:29it is being led

09:30by people

09:31who have no idea

09:32what the long-term

09:34impact on this country

09:36will be

09:37unless we stop

09:38this kind of nonsense.

09:39So I read this yesterday

09:40and immediately

09:41put a picture

09:42on my social media

09:43of me standing

09:44in front of a Union Jack,

09:46loud and proud,

09:47and I'll tell you what,

09:48when a reformed government

09:49gets in...

09:50You racist bigot,

09:51you racist bigot,

09:53you dreadful.

09:54Every public building

09:55will have a Union Jack

09:57being blown proudly

09:58from it

09:59under a reformed government,

10:01and we encourage

10:02every household

10:02to fly Union Jacks

10:04as I do,

10:05and my constituency

10:06is full of Union Jacks.

10:08Bring it on.

10:09We will not put up

10:10with this.

10:11It is racist.

10:12They are being racist.

10:13This is where I don't

10:14understand this government.

10:15You've got a Yvette Cooper clip.

10:16Can you get that for me?

10:18A year ago,

10:19when all of this

10:20happened before,

10:21right,

10:21because I think

10:22the government

10:23and the BBC

10:23are about to start

10:24a whole big thing again.

10:25I completely agree

10:26with Betty.

10:26She says,

10:26you watch,

10:27the next few months

10:28will be all about

10:28how divisive it is.

10:29A year ago,

10:30when Common Sense

10:31actually won,

10:32they did a complete

10:33U-turn.

10:34This was Yvette Cooper

10:35pretending that she

10:36loved the flag

10:3712 months ago.

10:37Have a listen to this

10:38barking mad.

10:39We actually have

10:40Union Jack bunting

10:41on our garden shed

10:42at the moment.

10:43I've got

10:44St George's flags.

10:45I've got St George's bunting.

10:47I've got the

10:48Yorkshire Rose bunting

10:49as well.

10:50I've got Union Jacks

10:52flags and tablecloths.

10:53We've got the lot.

10:54I've even actually got

10:55some Yorkshire tea bunting,

10:57which is probably

10:57taking things a bit far.

10:59And she wonders,

11:00and this government

11:01wonders,

11:01why nobody takes them straight.

11:02That was 362 days ago yesterday.

11:04She described them

11:05as tools of hate.

11:07These people turn more times

11:08than a bloody merry-go-round,

11:10don't they?

11:11She sounds so pathetic

11:12and the British people

11:13can see right through that

11:15because the fact is

11:17they're not actually doing

11:18what she's just said,

11:19are they?

11:20They're not supporting

11:21the flying of the Union flag.

11:23And it's just a fundamental right.

11:25And how can we?

11:26It comes back to you.

11:27It affects all sorts of our lives,

11:29aspects of our lives.

11:30How can we expect

11:32young people to join

11:33the British Army,

11:34for example,

11:36when a time now

11:37when we know

11:37more than ever

11:38we've neglected

11:39our defence,

11:40we've neglected

11:41our military capability,

11:42and yet we're saying

11:43the government is saying

11:44you can't be proud

11:45to represent this nation,

11:48to fly the flag.

11:48You can paint your nails

11:50but don't be proud

11:51of the flag

11:51that you're supposed

11:52to be fighting for.

11:53Bloody ludicrous.

11:54There's something I know

11:55because you sent

11:56apparently a late-night text

11:57to Christian.

11:58Is that true?

11:59It might be.

12:00Well, I didn't get one.

12:02Anyway,

12:02this is really important.

12:04One of the biggest criticisms

12:05of this government,

12:06quite rightly too,

12:07is David Lammy.

12:08I mean, honestly,

12:10if you ever, ever believe

12:11you can get anywhere in life,

12:12look at that idiot.

12:13He has decided

12:15that jury trials

12:16should disappear,

12:16the very bedrock

12:17of what you were

12:18a magistrate for 20 years.

12:20You know the importance

12:21of that by being,

12:22you know, judged

12:23by your peers,

12:24not a single judge

12:25who might have a view.

12:27High court challenges

12:28tomorrow, I believe,

12:29or at some point,

12:30and also a big debate

12:31in the House of Commons

12:32tomorrow about this.

12:33Very important issue,

12:34isn't it?

12:35Look, this is massively important

12:37and yes,

12:37we're debating it tomorrow

12:39in the Houses of Parliament.

12:40I will, of course,

12:41be speaking on this subject.

12:43It's a subject

12:43that I speak on such a lot.

12:46But jury trials

12:47is a fundamental right,

12:49it's the bedrock

12:49of law and order

12:50in this country.

12:51If you take away

12:52the right to being judged

12:54by your peers

12:55and replace it

12:56with the right,

12:58with being judged

12:59by effectively the state,

13:01then suddenly

13:02that is not justice anymore.

13:04And I feel very strongly

13:05about this

13:05because I'll tell you why,

13:06Jeremy,

13:06one single justice,

13:08there is no scrutiny

13:09of that person's decisions.

13:10So that person could,

13:13for example,

13:14give more lenient sentences

13:17out to, say,

13:18people from ethnic minorities

13:20because they are in fear

13:21of being accused

13:22of being racist.

13:23That judge,

13:24that single justice,

13:25may, for example,

13:27not give somebody

13:28a custodial sentence

13:29when they absolutely deserve

13:31a custodial sentence

13:32because they are

13:33under political pressure

13:34and that will come through

13:35the clerks in the court

13:37not to fill up prison spaces

13:39that we don't have.

13:40There are so many

13:41different ways

13:42that this is wrong

13:43and nobody is scrutinising

13:45that judge.

13:46And that's the difference.

13:48In a magistrate's court,

13:49when we conduct trials,

13:50there's always three of us.

13:52So it's always

13:52the majority view.

13:53In a crown court,

13:54you have a jury.

13:56But under this new system

13:57that will go through

13:58because they will vote it through,

14:00although I have to say

14:00that are...

14:01Hold on a minute.

14:01...socumers of rebellions.

14:03This is really important.

14:04Dozens of Labour MPs

14:05have joined the rebellion

14:06to soften jury reforms.

14:08I don't...

14:09I'm sure you're altogether right.

14:10You might be.

14:10I think Lamb is in real trouble with this.

14:12I think common sense

14:13might well prevail.

14:14I think it's ludicrous.

14:15Absolutely ludicrous.

14:16The motivation is different.

14:17So apparently 65 might rebel.

14:20They need 80 to rebel

14:21to actually stop it going through.

14:23But you're right,

14:24it's getting very close.

14:25But they are rebelling

14:26because they're concerned

14:28about access to legal aid.

14:30Those Labour MPs

14:31are concerned about restrictions

14:32to legal aid, for example.

14:33I am concerned

14:35about the fundamental right

14:37to be tried

14:39by your peers

14:40in this country

14:40and the risks

14:41of one single person

14:43that is not scrutinised

14:44and the prejudice

14:46that he or she

14:47may have creeping

14:48into judgements.

14:50And that is not justice.

14:51Couldn't agree more.

14:52Love having you on.

14:53We'll be watching you

14:54in your silk blouse

14:55tomorrow

14:56in the House of Commons,

14:57giving it large

14:58because you know

14:58all about that justice thing.

15:00Really good to have you on.

15:01Thank you so much.

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