00:00All right, and now it's time for Love Bites, the virtual reality segment brought to you by Sonic.
00:04And with everything going on between you guys and Taylor at the moment, do you feel like she was ready
00:08to lead The Bachelorette?
00:10Was she ready to really begin her search for love?
00:13I think, I think she's working through a lot and like, we were very open with saying like,
00:19I don't think this is the best time for her to do The Bachelorette because of everything going on in
00:24her life.
00:24Like, everything is still so fresh and she hasn't fully worked through it.
00:27And so it's hard for you to jump into a relationship when you don't fully love yourself or think that
00:33you're deserving of these opportunities and of a good love.
00:36But I do think it was a good opportunity for her to leave her toxic cycle that she was in
00:42every single day with Dakota.
00:44I think regardless of being in the love bubble, it's like she still has so much going on that she
00:49needs to heal that like, regardless, it's not going to matter.
00:52She's still going to have those feelings regardless of who she's with and like what she's doing.
00:57You know, it's something that she needs to heal too.
00:59And like, well, I think she's the only one that can do it.
01:02So, yeah.
01:03I feel like you two have really put in a lot of work to heal from past trauma.
01:08Do you have any advice for Taylor on how to fully heal from her past trauma?
01:14Lots.
01:14I would say, yeah, there's a lot of things, but I would say seeking peace instead of revenge is a
01:20big one.
01:21Like letting, it's not like letting people walk all over you, but it's like keeping your peace and letting things
01:25go that like just need to be in the past so you can move on to have your own future.
01:29Like if I kept myself in the past, I would have never moved on.
01:32I would have never found my husband.
01:33Like you have to let certain things go, even if you don't have answers or control and like move forward.
01:40So I feel like for me, it's like choosing peace, choosing happiness over chaos or revenge or people who did
01:46me wrong.
01:47Like that's something that I feel like I had to do on my journey to heal and move forward.
01:52Obviously like therapy and things like that.
01:54But that's like, that's kind of like the no brainer part of it.
01:57I'm like, look at you now.
01:58You're thriving.
02:00I think silence, silence and just like finding things that you're passionate about and thriving is the best form of
02:07revenge.
02:08Yeah, success.
02:09Success is the best form of revenge.
02:11It really is.
02:12And Macy, I love so much when you were doing your New York rounds for your book tour or the
02:16book press and everything like that.
02:18And just this having that on the world now for some time now, how has it all been like, how
02:24has that all been feeling?
02:25And I know when you left here last time, you were debating a second book.
02:29How is that still standing?
02:31Yeah.
02:31I mean, for right now, I'm like, I'm not doing anything.
02:34So I also have so many other things I'm doing and behind the scenes and other businesses I'm starting that
02:38I'm like, I don't have time right now to write it.
02:41But it's definitely something I want to revisit that I'm hoping that like I can do over time.
02:45Because I'm like, I kind of want to live in this era and learn like from what I'm doing from
02:49day to day to write another book.
02:51Because even people are like, you're really young to write a memoir.
02:53I'm like, yeah, I live a lot of life, though.
02:55I was going to say, that book was filled.
02:58Yeah.
02:58Yeah, it was filled.
02:59But I still think like moving forward, I want to do more like the era that I'm even living in
03:03right now.
03:04So like maybe like five years from now would make sense.
03:07But start writing it in the next year or so because I want to have a lot of time for
03:11this one.
03:11I didn't have as much time to write the last one.
03:13So I'm really going to take my time and write this one differently because the other one was written more
03:16like a diary because it was taken from a lot from my diary.
03:19Whereas this one, I want to write it more from like where I'm at now.
03:22If that makes sense.
03:23Gotcha.
03:23Now, Michaela, if you were to ever write a book, one chapter I'd be very interested in reading is the
03:29chapter about how you and Whitney Levitt somehow miraculously made up.
03:33That was like the best development ever because I love the two of you so much.
03:38And to know that I can stand both of you equally and feel as though I don't have to choose
03:42sides.
03:43It's a very, a very peaceful place for me.
03:46How did you and Whitney come to a place of peace?
03:49Yeah, I think Macy feels similar.
03:51No, same.
03:51It felt like Christmas morning.
03:53I don't know that she was on my side the whole time.
03:56Yeah, I think, I think it goes into the same thing.
04:00Like choose the peace, the healing, the happiness over the revenge or like the anger.
04:08And I think I was working through a lot.
04:11I think that's what people don't understand is when you are unfolding this trauma, it does come in the waves
04:16of like anger first.
04:18And then you're able to voice that hurt.
04:20And so I feel like I was projecting a lot of that anger, even though like rightfully so she was
04:24doing things that were frustrating for a lot of us.
04:28I don't think in, you know, I think she's admitted to not being a good friend in those in that
04:32first season.
04:33But I think just being able to work through that anger and like I was working through a lot of
04:38heavy, heavy, heavy trauma during that time too.
04:41And so projecting that as well into the situation.
04:43And we're in these very high-end emotional situations while filming that it's hard not to kind of project that
04:50onto other people.
04:53But yeah, I think being able to just have her more involved in my health and healing and being vulnerable
04:59in that way is what ultimately made our friendship grow the most.
05:03And I'm very happy where it's at right now.
05:06I would say that Kumbaya was the turning point though.
05:08That's kind of what, I'm not kidding.
05:10I feel like that's what made it kind of like, I think the hearts were opened.
05:15I feel like that's what happened.
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