00:00I have to ask you two about dad talk which has been getting significantly more airtime as the
00:04seasons have gone on how do you two feel about dad talk taking on such a big role do you
00:08feel
00:08like some of them are maybe trying to overshadow or might be a little bit jealous of mom talk I
00:13think they're paying the editors is what I think I'm like I think they're slipping them some cash
00:17because what why are they so prevalent yeah I think we know who's talking to the lawyers oh we
00:22do know who talks to lawyers it's not our husbands but um yeah no I mean I'm like happy that
00:27they
00:27can have like a friendship or whatever I'm like just don't be like toxic yeah I just don't like
00:33I don't know I think it's the mindset of it for me I'm like absolutely it's such a fun experience
00:37I
00:38want everyone to be able to experience it like it's so fun of course yeah um but it's it's the
00:44um
00:45the competition mindset for me of like well I want to be like I don't want to be this person's
00:50husband
00:50I want to be doing this and like it's not it's time for us to step out of their shadows
00:55I'm like
00:56yeah I'm like you're you only have a platform because of us I don't think we really feel it
01:01with our husbands though so I think we're mostly speaking about some of the other men to be honest
01:05but like even with villa like I like told my husband to go he was not gonna go and I
01:10was like
01:10go like go have fun like you know I was like two weeks I told my husband absolutely not your
01:16ass is
01:17staying home and like I think it's like my worst nightmare to hang out in a villa with those men
01:21and I imagine it would be his Michaela we're talking about the husbands and everything I was
01:26so sad for you and Jace when you guys decided to separate this season so Jace and I stayed up
01:31late
01:31last night talking out the pros and the cons of separating between all of the mom talk drama and
01:37the pressure that I feel to get my marriage in a good place I'm definitely reaching a breaking point
01:42I saw you guys spent Christmas and Valentine's Day together are you still separated what's the update
01:48there how are things going I think the update is just it's a work in progress like it it's a
01:55lot
01:55it's with kids and our schedule and yeah my health stuff it's a lot and like I kind of set
02:01that
02:02expectation for him of like I'm not able to work through this and give it a hundred percent until I
02:07can work through my health stuff because unfortunately my health stuff is out of my control and it they it
02:14comes with a lot of physical ailments that I'm not able to like remove myself out of my body and
02:19be
02:19present in this moment with him or with the kids and so yeah that's the update it's just a work
02:24in
02:24progress and I think it's going to be that way for a long time and I think it's going to
02:28have its ups
02:28and it's going to have its downs but I can also double your mistake and choose with me on Valentine's
02:32Day as well I was there yeah I was like I'm actually on a date with my other I'm like
02:37thank you
02:37her husband just happened to be there so yeah Macy I want to ask you about Whitney bailing on your
02:43book event um because I know some of you guys were pretty frustrated about that he called me last
02:48night and she was like crying to me and she said I just I'm so exhausted I'm so good but
02:52two things can
02:52be true she can be exhausted and overwhelmed but also still be a good friend also production paid for
02:56her flight they had someone at the airport waiting to pick her up she just never told them she
02:59wasn't coming but I'm wondering if you've changed your outlook on that situation since seeing
03:03you know what Whitney was going through at the time behind the scenes with the dancing
03:07with the stars exhaustion the mom gill all of that stuff yeah I think the question is did she say
03:11she regretted it no and I honestly going back to the baby mama event I said this a million times
03:18but
03:18I'm like it's not even the fact that you didn't come it was like everything leading up to it the
03:21context was kind of cut out of the show but there was a lot missing and it was more than
03:25just her
03:25showing up but also like for this event I totally understood she called me the night before and like
03:30was crying to me and I was like we talked on the phone for like 45 minutes and I was
03:33like I have zero
03:34expectations for you to come like don't even stress like I think the other girls were more
03:38upset in that moment but I think I like was so burnt out even in that moment like I was
03:44like
03:44whatever like don't come it's no big deal like at least I don't think it made it look like I
03:48was
03:48upset but I wasn't you know like in that moment yeah I think there's a lot of context missing from
03:52the show I think that's just something that's kind of out of our control is like a lot of the
03:56context
03:56that we could use to explain situations but at the end of the day I think it's just again being
04:01freshly postpartum we are showing up 24 7 and so it's hard when there's people and I feel like
04:06our knee-jerk reaction is to be like well we're here why is nobody else showing up like we're not
04:10going through things it's all hard yeah at the end of the day it's also kind of taking a step
04:14back
04:14and giving those people the grace too because yeah it's hard to say maybe in a couple months from now
04:19Macy won't be able to show up to one of my things and I'll be understanding and like I totally
04:22get it
04:23Michaela it's been a long time coming but you and Whitney are finally back on good terms
04:27what did you think of Zach showing up to fight Jen's battle for oh god I have so many opinions
04:32I would never like the way I would be so embarrassed if my husband went to go and fight my
04:37battles for
04:38me and like if I ever saw my husband talking to another woman like that I would be like
04:43no thanks I'm good to be honest I think she's probably scared to come here and get yelled at by
04:48you you do that a lot yeah you know what else I did I voice memoed her an apology for
04:54yelling at her
04:54yeah Whitney it was a fake apology I heard it myself so yeah I have a lot of opinions with
05:01that
05:01thoughts there for sure and I honestly I actually love seeing Connor get spicy in the FaceTime call
05:07Connor get him how are you guys with Jen right now I feel like we're fine yeah I feel like
05:14we're good I
05:15feel like it's hard again she's been gone a lot and so um it's hard to really build that relationship
05:22or like have a super deep meaningful relationship when she's not really here and she doesn't really
05:28respond to texts either she's kind of like in her own world so it's like I think we're all good
05:32it's
05:32just like it's hard to have a deep friendship with people who maybe don't want it or like we're kind
05:37of doing their own thing you know there's only so much you can do
05:39you
05:39you
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