00:00Going into filming about this, of course, a lot of eyes are going to be on Jessie.
00:04Yes.
00:04And we are kind of shocked because we literally were with Jessie and her husband in September for our award show.
00:10And then when we saw the trailer and watched some of the episodes, I'm like, how are we with them together?
00:13Like, they clearly are in a better place now.
00:16But how do you feel you all are going to be preparing reliving a lot of this stuff?
00:20I think it's going to be hard, especially on Jessie and Jordan.
00:23I think that you kind of forget what happens and then seeing it back in front of the world.
00:28And then everyone's going to make their comments on their marriage and things.
00:30But I just think at the end of the day, we just want Jessie to be happy.
00:33And if that's with Jordan, that's awesome.
00:35And if it's not with Jordan, that's awesome, too.
00:37I just think that it's been a very emotionally taxing loss a little bit.
00:41And I hope that, like, the world can be gentle on her, honestly.
00:43Yeah.
00:43Oh, totally.
00:44I mean, she's been through a lot.
00:46And you kind of don't realize, I mean, because she opens up a lot in the season about what she kind of went through in the marriage.
00:52Did you have any idea that it was as bad as it had been?
00:56Because on the surface, like, Jessie really has it together.
00:59No, I think Jessie's really good at putting up a happy face.
01:02Even when she's struggling, I feel like I've seen Jessie at, like, her lowest moments now going through this.
01:07She's still good at, like, slapping a smile on.
01:09And, like, you would never know that she's going through a hard time.
01:11But I never knew the extent of her marriage, honestly.
01:13Like, Jordan is kind of a harder person to be around, honestly.
01:19Wait, what do you mean?
01:20He's just very, like, blunt and forward and, like, just says it how it is, but kind of in a rude way.
01:25But, like, we've always kind of just, like, excused it.
01:27And we're like, oh, that's just Jordan.
01:28But then now that I've, like, seen more things, I'm like, no, that's not Jordan.
01:32This is, like, you know, she's been emotionally abused.
01:34And it's very, very sad to see.
01:35Like, I just want the best for Jess.
01:37Do you feel his blunt and rudeness and everything increased as Jessie's popularity increased and notoriety?
01:44Or has he calmed down a little bit?
01:46You know what I mean?
01:46Like, was that a pressure point for them?
01:48No, I don't think it's necessarily increased, but I think it's just kind of stayed the same.
01:51Which I feel like more of if you have.
01:53Yeah.
01:54I think if you have, like, a platform now, you'd maybe kind of get a little nicer.
01:58Right.
01:58But, you know, that's not the same for him.
02:01What really broke my heart is in this season, she explains that she was meant to feel not beautiful or not desirable.
02:07And that kind of contributed to her moments with Marciano.
02:13What was it like hearing her say that?
02:15And it's also so crazy because she is literally so beautiful.
02:18Jessie's one of the most beautiful humans I've ever met inside and out.
02:20She's seriously such a gem.
02:22And I think it's hard, though, when you're in a relationship where you're not necessarily getting uplifted all the time and you're not getting that validation that you need.
02:28I mean, I get it.
02:28Being a girl's hard.
02:29And you just need to be told that you're beautiful.
02:31And if you're not getting that in your marriage, it's hard and it starts to affect your confidence a lot.
02:35So I just, I feel, I feel for her there.
02:37Who do you feel is, like, your current, like, your closest to, though?
02:41Miranda.
02:42Miranda.
02:42I love her.
02:43She is such a great addition.
02:44She really is.
02:44I'm so happy that she's part of the show and that she's maybe hopefully part of MomTalk if y'all ever let her in.
02:49Like, Jesus Christ.
02:51Poor Miranda.
02:52I don't love it.
02:53I hate it.
02:53It's the other girls that are hard on her.
02:55And I'm like, guys, let up.
02:56They're so tough on her.
02:58Do you think that her associations with Demi make it tougher for the entire group to welcome her?
03:04I think, naturally, Miranda's a very optimistic person when it comes to people.
03:09She's like, oh, I'm going to kind of see it out for myself first, which I get.
03:12I think that's, you have every right to do that.
03:14But I think with time she'll start to see Demi as true colors.
03:17Do you know what I really appreciate, though, about you is how close you are with Miranda and how willing you are to develop this friendship with her despite her associations with Demi.
03:26I mean, were you worried a little bit?
03:27Because you and Demi have been through it.
03:29No, I initially was, and we were kind of confused about who was, like, leaking information and things like that.
03:34But I think me and Miranda have so much in common that our friendship has always just felt very natural.
03:38Like, we're both single moms.
03:39We're both kind of very similar in age.
03:41We have different viewpoints and, or similar viewpoints and things like that, that I feel like our friendship just always felt very natural and makes sense.
03:48So I feel like I kind of just, I can separate friendships.
03:50Like, I can be like, you can be friends with Demi and then friends with me.
03:52And that doesn't, they don't have to, like, coexist, you know?
03:54Right.
03:54A little tease for this season is that people think Miranda is leaking information from one side of mom talking.
03:59To Demi, who's, like, on the outs with everyone, pretty much.
04:03Was there ever a moment where you felt like she truly was giving information to her?
04:07No, I think that this group all has big mouths.
04:09I'm going to be honest.
04:10I think it was everyone collectively as a whole, probably telling their husbands and their husbands go and tell the other husbands.
04:15And it's like, we're always just sharing each other's information.
04:18Well, it's kind of part of the job.
04:19Yeah.
04:19You know what I mean?
04:20So I don't think it was one particular person.
04:22I don't think it was just Miranda.
04:23Like, I could confidently say it was probably everyone.
04:25Do you feel everyone was like, oh, good, we have a scapegoat now to blame?
04:27I think, too, probably an easier person to target, you know?
04:31Because newer to the group, you know, doesn't have as deeper relationships formed yet.
04:35So I feel like it was just, like, an easy, like, oh, let's just kind of, like, put it on her.
04:38There are so many twists and turns that come this season.
04:40Because obviously last season ended on that cliffhanging conversation between you and Marciano.
04:44It's, like, so crazy that you ended up being the one to deliver that message.
04:48I know.
04:49I wouldn't talk to him.
04:50And then, so he makes certain claims, and then season three starts, and the claims kind
04:54of change.
04:55They get a little bit inflammatory.
04:57But then we realize that maybe he was coerced into inflaming those claims by a certain villain
05:05on the show.
05:06So it's so tough.
05:07Like, what do we believe?
05:09Like, what do you think?
05:11Like, what do you think is the truth of Marciano and Jessie?
05:14I think that what Jessie's saying is the truth.
05:16They didn't have sex.
05:17I think at this point, if she's already getting exposed for an affair, what good would it do
05:21her saying that we didn't have sex if they did?
05:23You know?
05:23Right.
05:24She's already getting exposed.
05:24She's already going to, like, face the consequences in her marriage and, like, probably, like,
05:28online hate for it.
05:29At that point, why would she lie about that small detail?
05:31Right.
05:31And it's almost like if you say all the truth of it, then you hope it just stops because
05:35there's nothing else people can keep on digging into.
05:37I think at that point she's like, I've suffered enough.
05:39Why would I hide more skeletons?
05:40Right.
05:40Do you think he's just trying to, like, twist the knife a little bit?
05:43Yeah.
05:44I think it's probably an ego thing.
05:46I think that he probably really liked Jessie and, like, it didn't work out and, like,
05:49things like that.
05:49I think it's just he's a very egotistical man.
05:52You can tell.
05:52And very fame hungry.
05:54He saw his end to the show and he got it.
05:56Isn't that wild?
05:57And also, yeah, I feel like is he trying to, like, DM to pop around with some of the other
06:01ladies?
06:02Oh, my God.
06:02I hope not.
06:03I know.
06:03Is the Marciano chat, does it kind of close after season three, do you think?
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