00:00The only thing I can tell you that I am vehemently against,
00:02I am in on Malik Willis to some degree.
00:05To some degree.
00:06Yeah, I'm in on Kyler Murray to some degree.
00:09I'm in on every quarterback possible except Anthony Richardson.
00:13Like when Zach Jackson was on with the Morning Boys today,
00:18Daryl, he kind of talked about the fallout from the combine
00:22and what's like, okay, Titus Howard trade, what's the next move?
00:26And I think he went pretty hard in the paint here
00:28for this idea of Anthony Richardson to Cleveland.
00:30I feel like the next trade has to be for Anthony Richardson.
00:33You know, I feel pretty strongly about that.
00:34That makes perfect sense with the open competition thing.
00:37He signed for one year.
00:38He's caught upside.
00:39He could compete with Shador Sanders for the starting job.
00:42And the hope would be, obviously, that one of them hits.
00:44And if it doesn't, you're still on track for next year.
00:46So maybe he will want to go somewhere else.
00:48I don't really buy into the thought of him going and sitting somewhere
00:52because he's only signed for one year.
00:53So it makes just a lot of sense for the Browns to go that route.
00:57It's cheap.
00:57It would probably be one of the other two fifth-round picks to acquire it.
01:01And he would get in and have a chance to resurrect his career
01:03and compete for the starting job.
01:04He was always drafted too young and drafted too early.
01:08And like I said, it would be the low-cost thing that would allow the Browns
01:11to continue to upgrade other areas to support, you know,
01:14whoever is going to be that QB or the multiple players
01:17who are going to take snaps in 2026 for the Browns.
01:20A fifth-rounder for a starting offensive lineman that can start
01:24for the next two to three years, that outweighs a developmental piece
01:28on the offensive line to me.
01:29I understand that value.
01:31A fifth-rounder for an absolute overdraft of a quarterback three years ago
01:36who hasn't done anything in the NFL to dispel what the knocks were coming out,
01:42including is he mature enough and does he love football,
01:45just so you can say you have another name in the quarterback room,
01:48does not, to me, make more sense than a developmental fifth-round pick
01:52that you'll have under contract for anywhere from three to five years.
01:55It just doesn't.
01:56No, the hard part I have is I get some teams going to have to invest time
02:00and they're going to try to put some resources towards Anthony Richardson.
02:02I just don't want it to be us.
02:04And I don't understand why it has to be us.
02:05We're not in the spot where it has to be.
02:07And so, yes, we need a quarterback, but between Shador and then obviously
02:12I know some people, you want to create a buffer between, you know,
02:15Shador and Deshaun Watson, but I just, I'm fine.
02:18If it's Shador and Deshaun, just let them battle it out and go for it.
02:20Also, I do think we're missing a step in the Anthony Richardson chronology here
02:24that matters.
02:25What's that?
02:26Sam Darnold needed to sit for a year before he got another chance,
02:29before he got his last chance, which ended up being Minnesota,
02:32which he extended.
02:32It's all about Richardson being too, basically, early to the party
02:35and still being too young.
02:36He's probably going to need to just hang out in NFL limbo for a few years,
02:39kind of like what's going through Trey Lance right now.
02:41Yes.
02:41It won't surprise me if two years from now Trey Lance all of a sudden
02:44gets another chance and an opportunity and he looks way different
02:47than what he has so far in his NFL career, but he needs this time
02:49where he's hanging out with Jim Harbaugh and he's under Justin Herbert
02:52and they're kind of teaching him how to do the NFL at a pace that
02:55he just didn't have before.
02:58I would rather Trey Lance than Anthony Richardson.
03:01This is where the conversation is.
03:03Trey Lance, who is a free agent this offseason, I would rather give him
03:07a one-year, $3 million deal to come in and compete
03:11with Shador.
03:12And again, they're different players, but they are guys that were overdrafted
03:16who had a limited amount of experience in college football.
03:20And even him, I think, and he's put in some work,
03:22but I think he's even a year or two away from legitimately saying,
03:25all right, the bird's cooked.
03:26Let's go see what we can do now.
03:27But he spent a year on the bench behind Dak in Dallas with Mike McCarthy.
03:31He spent a year on the bench behind Justin Herbert in L.A.
03:35I can at least tell you he sat on the bench for two years.
03:38And by the way...
03:39The game he got in, he looked awful.
03:41Well, yeah.
03:41That doesn't matter.
03:43If we're talking about less than 14 starts for either guy in the NFL,
03:47am I really going to say, well, Anthony Richardson's got like 12 starts.
03:51Trey Lance only has six.
03:53They both look better.
03:53Oh, no, no, no.
03:54I just meant the more recent one he got in this last season where you're like,
03:57well, how much did he learn with Jim Harbaugh?
03:59He looked horrendous.
04:00No, he did.
04:01And there's really no defense of what he's done on the field so far.
04:06But that continues to point how just ridiculous even the Malik Willis thing is.
04:10I mean, two good games.
04:12It's like, guys.
04:13Like, we're talking about such finite amount of information.
04:16And so, like, I don't...
04:19I would just not give anything up for Anthony Richardson.
04:22If he gets cut in Indy and you sign him as a free agent, I get it.
04:26But I do think that we're just starting...
04:29Well, it's just a fifth-round pick.
04:31No.
04:32Like, the flaw with the Browns and how their roster building is gone.
04:35And it's funny.
04:36I made the point this weekend on social media about, ultimately,
04:40Andrew Barry's inability to build a roster is, like, the most damning thing about him.
04:44And I think it was Xavier P said, well, but what about the defense?
04:47It's like, yeah, I understand he built a good defense.
04:51The problem is he has not consistently built things like depth
04:54and everything on the offensive side of the ball.
04:57And it's really easy just to say, hmm, Kevin Stefanski can't evaluate or help develop talent.
05:03Like, the Browns drafted, I think, four offensive linemen in six drafts for Andrew Barry.
05:09That's not enough.
05:11You need...
05:12Like, the reason why Green Bay, amongst other teams, can just habitually kick out guys like Rasheed Walker...
05:17Yeah, and like, in that, Whipler was a, what, seventh-round pick?
05:20A sixth-rounder.
05:21Six-rounder.
05:22And you get...
05:22And look at the value they've gotten out of that.
05:24But like, Rasheed Walker, seventh-round pick.
05:26Zach Tom was, I think, a seventh-round pick.
05:28Like, Sean Ryan was a third-round pick.
05:30Like, they just...
05:31You continue to take one to two offensive linemen a year, and that's where you need to be.
05:37I'm not willing to give up one of those potential guys for a year of Anthony Richardson to say,
05:43a year from now, hey, we tried it.
05:46Like, I still think Kenny Pickett for a fifth-round pick was a waste of a pick.
05:50Yeah.
05:51Because he didn't play a single damn down for you.
05:53Don't care that you then turned it into another fifth-round pick.
05:55You got it back, yeah.
05:56And then you turned it into...
05:57You got a little lucky there.
05:58Well, so that's kind of the weird thing, is it almost feels like sometimes with these guys...
06:01And maybe the Browns would be thinking about this, too.
06:03It's like, well, we turned...
06:04Anthony Richardson costs a fifth-round pick now, but after a year of him sitting,
06:08then another team is going to say, oh, wow, he really grew in Cleveland, didn't he?
06:11And we need a quarterback, and they're going to flip him for a spot like, I don't know,
06:1425 spots better and act as if they just won this big deal.
06:17They do a lot of that nonsense.
06:19They do.
06:19They do a lot of, like, hanging out with guys for a year just to try to win, like,
06:23a 20-spot increase in the draft.
06:25But, like, it's weird that we're in a spot where I don't really like Kyler Murray that much.
06:30And I feel like the safest...
06:32The outcome that's going to fill me with the least amount of what the hell are you doing
06:35is if Kyler Murray gives you a Russell Wilson kind of deal.
06:38At which point, by the way, the probability of him coming to Cleveland
06:41and you suddenly being a different organization or him being a different quarterback might be 25%.
06:46Yeah, I mean, he still doesn't have a playoff win.
06:48There's still...
06:48There's a lot to dislike as much as I like Kyler, but there's a lot to dislike about Kyler.
06:52But if he chooses you for $1 million, what's the harm there?
06:56And so, to draw it to the Russell Wilson conclusion, Russell Wilson versus Justin Fields.
07:03Now, Russ won, and then Russ went out there, and they had an okay season, whatever.
07:07But, like, because you were only paying Russell Wilson $1 million, you could then turn around
07:11and have him compete for the job, which I think for you makes sense because then you can see
07:16Kyler versus Shador and see where they go from there.
07:18Yeah, I just think...
07:19Well, I think Kyler...
07:20I think he's got enough options where, whether it's a team like the Jets or somebody else,
07:24I think he'd have, like, almost...
07:25Like, does Kyler get assurances he'd start week one if he signs there?
07:28I think he would.
07:29Where?
07:30Anywhere he chooses, yeah.
07:31I don't know.
07:33Here's the thing.
07:34He's been so under-talked about in all of this.
07:37I don't think anyone really knows what the market for Kyler is.
07:41People assume it's Minnesota.
07:43Minnesota's got multiple options because of Cousins and other guys like that.
07:47It would be funny if he ended up in Pittsburgh on a Russ deal just because...
07:51...at some point they would really start to...
07:54I mean, going from Russell Wilson to Aaron Rodgers to Kyler Murray would be a little fun.
07:57If Rodgers decides that he doesn't want to play, their plan right now is Will Howard.
08:01That's not a plan, friend.
08:03You've got to trade up and draft.
08:04As much as they want to tell you about Will Howard, that's not a plan.
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