00:01So, I'm going to open up my doors to perception here, even though I don't want to, even though
00:08I'm kind of playing for 2027, because I don't trust anybody working on 2026.
00:16Maybe it's because I just want to keep an open mind with less than a month until the
00:22draft.
00:22Maybe it's because we have Kalen DeBoer coming on the show tomorrow.
00:25I don't know.
00:27But maybe I need to open up my doors to perception on Ty Simpson just a little bit, just a
00:33smidge.
00:34Just say we have Kalen DeBoer coming on the show tomorrow.
00:39Glad you brought that up.
00:40Hell yeah.
00:41Head coach of Alabama joins us tomorrow morning on the show.
00:45And the first question I'm going to ask him is, how can I trust your quarterback, former
00:51quarterback, to finally stop the bleeding that's been going on since 1999 with the Cleveland
00:59Browns for 26 seasons?
01:01First question I've got to ask him right out of the box.
01:03Kalen DeBoer tomorrow morning.
01:06Because I think we might have jumped the shark yesterday.
01:08Here's Dan Orlovsky, former NFL quarterback, guy who breaks down a lot of film.
01:15ESPN's get up on Ty Simpson maybe being the best QB in this draft.
01:20I think Ty Simpson is QB1.
01:22I think Ty Simpson is the best quarterback in this class.
01:25I think when you look at the body of work and what was asked of these two quarterbacks,
01:30you have to start with the question, who needed to do more to carry their football team to play
01:35well?
01:35Ty Simpson.
01:36And it's not close between those two quarterbacks.
01:39Who took more games over throughout the course of the season?
01:42Ty Simpson.
01:43It's not even close.
01:44And if we're asking like, okay, we're trying to see what you are as a player in college
01:49and what you're going to be asked to do in the NFL and what translates.
01:52I start with, what do you do in moments of panic with the football?
01:55Because that's really what separates good to great.
01:58I would tell you that Ty Simpson is more consistent in that regard.
02:01There's not a ton of moments of panic out of Fernando Mendoza.
02:04And then there's moments when he immediately drops his eyes and becomes a runner.
02:08Ty Simpson, more consistent in that.
02:09What guy was asked to do more NFL throws?
02:11When I say NFL throws, I'm talking 15, 20, 25-yard in routes, crossing routes, deep corner
02:17or sail routes.
02:18Ty Simpson, and it's not even close in that regard.
02:22Downfield throws, the posts and the goes, I think they're close.
02:26Mendoza throws a lot of go routes, and he's good at it.
02:28But I think they're close.
02:29RPO, get it out.
02:30That's probably what Mendoza's offense was.
02:33And then I think throwing on the move, they're both equal.
02:36So when it comes to moments of panic and big throws, real NFL throws, I think it's clearly
02:41Ty Simpson.
02:41I would rather have Ty Simpson at the 15 to 20 range than Fernando Mendoza at one.
02:48I agree with almost everything except the end part of what he says about the big throws
02:56and things like that.
02:57I think Fernando Mendoza made some real big throws last year for Indiana.
03:01I think he was forced to make some big throws for California as well.
03:04I gotta tell you, I'm a little confused here.
03:07And I know people are going right to the, who represents Dan Orlovsky, who represents, you
03:12know, they're going to the agencies.
03:15Well, because immediately we try to draw that conclusion.
03:17Yeah, I'm not doing that.
03:18Like, Orlovsky's more than entitled to, I'm glad, honestly, I'm glad we have a difference
03:22of opinion because it gets boring if everybody just says, yeah, Mendoza number one, even though
03:25we know Mendoza's going number one overall and just had this amazing year.
03:29Mendoza, he's right about a lot of things, had less than he had to do because they stuck
03:34with the run there and Mendoza's stats are honestly kind of average.
03:40If you look at all the elite quarterbacks that have come out of the number one overall
03:43picks or whatever, his stats are way below everybody else's.
03:46Why?
03:46I mean, they had 30 point leads in the third quarter and they ran the ball.
03:50They weren't trying to get him a Heisman and he still won the Heisman because of how great
03:53it was and, you know, the rest of the field was kind of down.
03:56With all that said, Mendoza, I saw the numbers floated yesterday.
04:00He led college football for a guy that didn't throw that much compared to everybody else.
04:04Mendoza led college football with what they call opposite hash sideline throws.
04:10Like, those are NFL throws.
04:11Those back shoulder throws that I, that's what's got me thinking he's easily going to translate
04:17to the NFL.
04:17Mendoza or Simpson?
04:18Because of those back shoulder throws that I, I have never, I've never seen a college
04:24quarterback be so good at those.
04:27And that is such an NFL throw.
04:29That's every third down.
04:30Like that's Aaron Rodgers.
04:31That's all he's got left are the back shoulder throws.
04:34And Mendoza could do that like falling out of bed.
04:37So, so I, I, to me, I think it's kind of silly to act like Simpson is right there or
04:43his
04:43tape is so much better.
04:44See, I agree.
04:45Mendoza.
04:45I agree with you.
04:46Um, and I think that Mendoza, because of his body size, because of the experience, I think
04:51that he's going to be more, uh, easily available.
04:54I, I mean, I don't know what necessarily what the Raiders plans are.
04:57You know, if I, if you're Tom Brady, who definitely is spearheaded a lot of things when
05:02it comes to that football team, I don't know if I would just, because he's the number one
05:05picked, I mean, I'd start in week one.
05:06Uh, but if you were looking at for a guy who had to start as early as possible, I think
05:11Fernando Mendoza makes a lot of sense experience, body size, uh, the leadership that
05:15he's shown in two different places.
05:17That's all there for Ty Simpson.
05:18I do think he's shown good leadership with Alabama.
05:21I don't think that he's secretly a Bo Callahan type of person.
05:24I think far from it.
05:25I just look at the experience, the things he's had to do.
05:28And I'm thinking, is he, I think fit has to matter here.
05:31Is he a fit with this football team where you were to say you were to break the draft and
05:37you took him at number six, or you moved up to number 12, or maybe you moved back to
05:4112 and he's there and you guys start talking.
05:44And I, this is a scary scenario because you want to make that decision with conviction for
05:50that quarterback.
05:51You don't want to sit there and hem and haw and then he falls to you at six and you
05:54take
05:55him at six in a perfect world.
05:56You're laughing because you get all these other things, but regardless, if you got him, do
06:01we have what it takes to support him to not have to put him in too soon?
06:05Because the lack of experience scares me.
06:07There's some throws there that some of the anticipatory throws that are going to be brought
06:10up here during this last month.
06:11They're really, really good.
06:13And so I find myself here finding there.
06:15I have said a lot of times, 2027, that's where I'm looking at.
06:19If Shador Sanders can't hack it this year, then I think I'm looking at 2027.
06:24Ty Simpson becomes the last gasp tone.
06:27You know, I mean, we've had conversations about all these other QBs.
06:30We've had knockdown drag outs over all the free agents, the possible trades, anything
06:36that seems even somewhat realistic and all the things that don't seem realistic.
06:40We've had those discussions.
06:42Ty Simpson's that last gasp.
06:44Anybody after him, like, yeah, if they took Drew Aller, who's a local guy, I, I wouldn't
06:50like it because I don't think that going from one fishbowl to this fishbowl is good
06:54for him or good for his, good for his maturation process as a quarterback.
06:58But I think a lot of people would probably be excited about that.
07:01I wouldn't be for the reasons I just said, but I don't think that there's a real hope
07:05with any of the other QBs.
07:07You took Ty Simpson in the first round.
07:09You know, that changes a lot of people's perception of what this team could be, will
07:12be.
07:13It just doesn't make sense.
07:14How much they trust him.
07:14I don't think it makes sense either, but it doesn't make sense for me at all at this
07:17point.
07:18Not, not to say that he doesn't like, we were talking about guys and how they project yesterday
07:23when it came to Freeling.
07:26At quarterback, it's a different, it's a whole different ball game that you can, people would
07:30say, well, you're being hypocritical.
07:31You would say that the offensive lineman doesn't have to play day one on this team, but the quarterback,
07:35but you wouldn't take Simpson, even though I think there's so much more in terms of an
07:39investment and a consideration for Simpson, especially because you'd be taking them in the first
07:43round.
07:44Like, it's not like when you took Gabriel and, and which is still what top 100 pick or
07:50when you took Sanders in the fifth round, totally different ball game.
07:53When we're talking about a quarterback in the first round, because you're tethered to
07:56them in a way that you wouldn't be for other, other quarterback situations.
08:01I also don't think it makes sense because when you've started 15 games and you're still young.
08:07Now I brought up body size before, you know, six, one or six, one and a half, whatever
08:11it is, slight, he had three, he had three injuries this last year.
08:16I wonder if you're going to be able to take the punishment of the NFL.
08:19You know, I know Tony Eason was taller, but that's kind of how I see it.
08:22I'll have to ask that question to Kayla Naboor coming up tomorrow morning.
08:25Right.
08:26But there's also the fit of how is he going to be able to show what he can in this
08:31year
08:31when you may have a whole nother year of a great draft class.
08:36You might, I know we've been talking about the last couple of draft class.
08:39Well, this quarterback draft class is going to be better.
08:40This quarterback draft class is going to be better.
08:42All right.
08:43Well, if it's, if it stays that way with 2027, then you're going to have more options.
08:47I don't know what they're going to do with Andrew Barry after this year.
08:49If you don't go to where you need to go and get nine wins, maybe he's gone.
08:53If there's a new philosophy in there, did I just throw away a first round pick?
08:57Because how much is he going to be able to show me?
09:00And if we're bad enough this year, could the next quarterback for the Browns be undeniable?
09:05So now I wonder, is it ever a fit for the now and for the future?
09:09Or are we just wasting a pick and trying to take a flyer in the first round on a quarterback?
09:15I can understand fifth round.
09:17I can understand day three.
09:20When we're talking flyers on in first round, I mean, that's the way it would feel.
09:24Cause I don't think I would condone starting him week one.
09:28And then the conversation, you know, the conversation would be with some people.
09:31He can't even beat out the fifth round guy.
09:32He can't even beat out a guy they don't want to play.
09:34And I don't think that'd be fair to Ty Simpson.
09:36I don't think it'd be fair to anybody else in the quarterback room, but we know how narratives
09:39get formed.
09:40And so if you have a guy who starts out the season, say you do start the season out with
09:44your door.
09:45How soon does Ty Simpson have to come in where the season gets off the rails?
09:49And then you put him in and then he's got to deal with everything else.
09:52Oh, and you got another draft class coming up where we don't know the general manager's
09:56future and we don't know their future either.
09:58Like the more I say it, the more I'm just like, man, you got to really love Ty Simpson
10:04to even consider the conversation.
10:07And I just don't, it's, it's tough also.
10:11And maybe I'm oversimplifying and maybe the legal evolve again, but especially when I hear
10:16Todd Munkin talk about dual threat quarterbacks and how that is so much more of a cheat code
10:23in today's game.
10:24The way the defenses are structured when I, when, when you try to sell me on Ty Simpson,
10:29and by the way, I'll be saying the exact same thing about Julian saying a year from
10:32now, mark my words, it doesn't matter that he's a Buckeye and maybe he'll have won a national
10:36championship at that point with Ohio state looking at guys that are six, one, six, two,
10:43and don't run in today's NFL.
10:46It's hard for me, the way the sport has moved to process that is a first round pick.
10:52It really is.
10:54Well, I agree.
10:54Cause you got to get out of harm's way.
10:55You have to be all timer in accuracy and in the pocket for me to even consider that.
11:02And they keep saying like, well, Mendoza's a got the golf comparison.
11:06Mendoza can still take off and run.
11:08He still showed that ability.
11:09He did that national championship game with some big runs when things weren't really working.
11:14And I've seen that throughout Ty Simpson.
11:17I am not seeing that at all.
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