00:00The biggest criticism I've seen of the trade is they only got a fifth for a starting right tackle.
00:05Right, right, yeah.
00:07And I think that's where the salary part comes into it.
00:09I think that Titus is interesting.
00:11I think that nobody, there's never a consensus opinion on offensive linemen in general
00:18other than for the top tier guys.
00:21You're going to argue about whether Panay Sewell is the best
00:24or the third best offensive tackle in football.
00:27You can have an argument about that.
00:28Yeah, nobody's putting Titus Howard in the Panay Sewell market.
00:32It comes down to how much are you paying for that right tackle.
00:36And I think that's the part of it.
00:37I don't think there are a lot of teams that were interested perhaps in paying him $22 million a year
00:42like the Browns are right now and also trading a high pick for him.
00:46So I think Titus Howard is a viable either starter, maybe starter plus or whatever,
00:53offensive lineman in the NFL.
00:55But there's a lot of teams this time of year that would rather spend a draft pick on a guy
01:00like that.
01:01If they're going to spend a second round pick, they'd rather draft an offensive tackle
01:05who might develop into a Titus Howard than they want to just spend the pick and pay the money for
01:10it.
01:10And who's doing it at $2 million a year for the next four years on a rookie deal.
01:14Yeah, for sure.
01:15Well, it's funny too, you bring up that tier of tackles that Titus clearly is not in.
01:22The Texans just traded a guy who is viewed in that tier a year ago.
01:26And that may have to do with some of the seller's remorse that Texan fans are having.
01:31Like, hey man, we got a fifth for Titus.
01:33And we got a second, a third, a fourth, and a sixth for Laramie Tunsell.
01:38Like, you know, Laramie's a better player.
01:39But is he a better player to where the Jimmy Johnson trade chart blows Titus out of the water like
01:45that?
01:45And the answer's no.
01:47I mean, they're not that far apart as players.
01:50Laramie's clearly the better player of the two.
01:52But there is a certain increase in price.
01:56Like, there is a certain, you know, you get to a certain level of tackle.
01:59And the price just jumps way, way up because they're elite at what they do.
02:02There aren't many Laramie Tunsells walking the face of the earth.
02:05There are a lot of Titus Howards, many more Titus Howards walking the face of the earth.
02:09And that's not disrespect.
02:10That's just, that's just the league has spoken on both guys.
02:13That's how it is.
02:14If he was, if Titus Howard was willing to play for $15 million a year or just $10 million a
02:19year for the next three years,
02:20you would have gotten a much better price on him, obviously.
02:23That's right.
02:23So the Texans got a fifth.
02:25This is my question, Seth.
02:27I'm of the opinion that this Titus Howard trade is a precursor to something.
02:32I don't think this was done in a vacuum.
02:34Maybe I'm making more out of this than it is.
02:36Maybe they're just ready to move on from Titus.
02:38Maybe agitating for a new deal if he was or his representation was.
02:42His representation certainly took a victory lap on Twitter this morning after getting that extension from the Browns.
02:47If that was enough for them to go, no, we'll just move on.
02:50We'll find somebody else to do this.
02:52Then so be it.
02:53I think there's a decent chance that there's a ripple effect with this.
02:56Could the ripple effect be something that improves the Texans at another position of need?
03:00We know that D'Amico Ryans has said that offensive line, he volunteered this when he was asked about this
03:06by Judy Batista of the NFL Network,
03:08volunteered it and said offensive line and running back are the two.
03:13These are the two areas we need to improve in.
03:16Fifth round pick is what they got.
03:17Reportedly, Seth, the fifth round pick or a day three pick, and I think people are filling in the blanks
03:23with the fifth round,
03:24is what Detroit is looking to get in a trade for running back David Montgomery.
03:29Could it be something as simple as the Texans picking up this fifth so that they can go flip it
03:35to Detroit?
03:36I'll point out the Texans do have their fifth round pick in this draft, so they don't need a fifth
03:41round pick to go get David Montgomery.
03:44They have one, but do they feel like, okay, well, we got this extra one now.
03:47We can go trade for David Montgomery, and we don't have this big hole in our draft where we go.
03:51They right now on day three have a fourth, a fourth, a fifth, and two sevenths.
03:56Right.
03:56If they were to trade their own fifth for David Montgomery without this tightest deal, now you're talking about basically
04:02four hours that you're sitting there without a pick.
04:06Yeah, if you're thinking about the sum total of what you're doing, let's just look at that as the inner
04:12core of our offense.
04:13If we look at our five offensive linemen and one running back, whoever's playing running back at any given time,
04:19you don't want Woody Marks back there for 1,000 snaps per year.
04:23That how do we get this whole blob of six players better overall?
04:29That makes sense that, yep, all right, we lose Titus Howard.
04:33We're going to have to figure out a way to replace him, but we've just got an extreme upgrade at
04:37running back,
04:38and we still feel confident in our ability either in the draft or free agency or the trade we've already
04:44worked out elsewhere to replace Titus Howard.
04:48That makes sense.
04:48Where is this running back room if they make a David Montgomery trade in terms of how much do they
04:54still need?
04:55How do you feel about Montgomery as a lead back?
04:57I feel good about it.
04:58Look, at any given point, sure, I'd love to have five potential all-pro running backs.
05:03I think that if you've got a one-two punch like Montgomery and Woody Marks, I mean, this is 50
05:11% of the exact comparison that we were hoping for.
05:14When the Texans drafted Woody Marks, we hoped that it could turn into something that Joe Mixon and Woody Marks
05:19could be something like David Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs up in Detroit.
05:23Now, Jameer Gibbs is a more electrifying athlete than Woody Marks.
05:28Oh, yeah.
05:28Jameer Gibbs is in the conversation for best back in football.
05:31Right, right.
05:31But similar types of guys that run threat slash receiving threat, and then you pair them with more of a
05:38hammer type of a running back like David Montgomery or Joe Mixon, then you've got something you really like.
05:44So I think that's where then it doesn't become an A-1 priority headed into the draft that you don't
05:50feel like you have to draft a running back.
05:52You don't feel like you have to, and yet if the board fell in such a way that with one
05:59of their second-round picks, let's say the 59th pick overall, I'll just use Jadarian Price as an example.
06:04If he were still there at 59 and they drafted Price with the 59th pick even after having made a
06:09David Montgomery trade, I would be cool with that.
06:11I'd be cool with it.
06:12I think it's still – you've got to temper your wants and desires and remember that you're spreading this across
06:2022 different starting positions.
06:22It's that it is still the running back position and how heavily committed do you want to be to running
06:26back on your roster?
06:27Well, you still have, as of right now, four question marks on the offensive line.
06:32You do, no.
06:32You've got four question marks on the offensive line.
06:35Yeah, yeah, no, if they had gone like – if they had gone safety and some other position that wasn't
06:42offensive line at 28 and 38,
06:44and the fact that I'm even talking about these picks, like Nick's still going to be using these exact picks
06:48when draft time rolls around is silly unto itself.
06:52But if they hadn't done anything to address the offensive line in the draft and they're drafting another running back
06:56when they'd already traded for one, then sure.
06:57Yeah, you're 100% right.
06:59Like, I'm saying this blindly without knowing what moves they've made from March 9th through day one of the draft.
07:06Let me – okay, I'll – let me – let's put it this way.
07:08Yeah.
07:08Two years ago, they had Joe Mixon as a healthy running back behind your offensive line.
07:14Yep.
07:15Joe Mixon wasn't nearly the best version of himself behind that offensive line.
07:19So, I mean, you can keep drafting offensive line – or running backs and adding running backs all you want.
07:25But if you don't get to the core of the problem, you've got a bad foundation on your house, all
07:31right?
07:32I'm going to spend – I'm going to have a beautiful widow's peak on the roof of my house that
07:37– it doesn't – it doesn't matter how beautiful that widow's peak is.
07:41It's going to crumble when the foundation fails.
07:43Check out my man cave.
07:45Right.
07:45Yeah, that's – running backs are kind of a man cave thing.
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