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Seth and Sean discuss the Texans picking up the 5th year team option for CJ Stroud and Will Anderson Jr.
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00:00So the news for the Texans yesterday was that, to nobody's surprise,
00:06C.J. Stroud and Will Anderson Jr., Seth, it was reported first by Field Yates is who I saw
00:12reported first of ESPN, that C.J. Stroud and Will Anderson Jr. will get their fifth-year
00:18options exercised. So they are now guaranteed their contracts through the 2027 season. So
00:27two more years. So the Texans, and look, I think we all know which direction things are going to be
00:32going here with Will Anderson Jr. at some point this offseason. Everybody that talks about Will
00:36treats the contract extension like the same formality level that this news was yesterday.
00:43C.J. is a different story, and we'll talk about that some more here. But they pretty much got
00:49everybody, if you take their 22, I'll call them starters, I know that they rotate at certain
00:54positions, but just the listed starters. And there are three specialists. All but like three
01:02or four are locked up for at least two more years now. Like this is a roster, by NFL standards,
01:08you know, when there's so much turnover in the NFL, this is a very solidified roster over the
01:13next couple years. Yeah, the biggest really remaining questions are all stuff that it's
01:19following the natural timeline with guys like Kamari Lasseter and Kalen Bullock and exactly what
01:25happens when it comes their time to have these discussions, which we're right around the corner
01:29with Kamari Lasseter next year. Next year, yeah. Yeah. But I mean, like obviously C.J. Stroud is going
01:34to be the big one. I was curious about this. I saw this story trending in a lot of ways,
01:39and I think
01:39it's probably just because of the name Will Anderson and C.J. Stroud. And yet it's not really big news
01:46because it would have been big news if either of these options hadn't been exercised. Yes. The
01:51assumption was you're going to go into, unless they're out on C.J. or extremely skeptical, that
01:57they were going to pick up the fifth-year option. So it would have been a big story if they
02:01didn't.
02:01So now what you have is neither Will Anderson or C.J. Stroud have as much leverage as they would
02:07have if they were going to be free agents at the end of the year. Yeah, that's the thing.
02:10Or that, yeah. And it's just first-rounders that this is, you know, so this won't be a thing with
02:15Kamari Lasseter next year. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. There's no fifth-year option
02:19deal. Yeah. Yeah. So it's an important distinction there. So yeah, that's, and they are two of
02:26just a few that have had it picked up so far. Teams have until, I think, May 1st to decide.
02:31But there's no reason to, you know, drag their feet on this. Well, they've dragged their feet.
02:36You know, Titus Howard, I recall, it came closer to the May deadline, if I remember correctly.
02:42Yeah. So every now and then, and it's still, you hesitate to read too much into that just
02:46because you never know what kind of negotiations are going on or whether it's just all, it could
02:51be all administrative type stuff. Yeah. But I think it does now, it brings C.J. Stroud's
02:57name up in conversations with people around the league, especially as there's very little
03:03going on. There's a, there's annoyingly little draft chatter in the way of rumors or anything
03:08right now. It's bothering me. You brought this up before the show. And since you brought
03:12that up, I I've been kind of during the break, just going through the, like the, the mock
03:17draft consensus and the consensus big board. Yeah. And, and maybe it's maybe part of it
03:24is because the Texans don't have nearly as many acute needs as they've had in years past.
03:29Again, that goes back to what we just talked about a few minutes ago. Nick Casario has done
03:33a nice job of putting together a pretty good roster that's solidified over the next couple
03:38of years here. There's not a lot of spaces for a high draft pick to come in and contribute
03:43early. So maybe some of that is just that there hasn't been as much of a keen interest
03:48in some of these first rounders for us because the roster just isn't as wide open for rookies
03:54to come in and contribute. But even, even then you look at it and you're right. Like that
04:00if Fernando Mendoza is the big name in this draft, I think is perfectly symbolic of what
04:05this draft class is. It's a corny, boring draft class. These guys, there aren't even that many
04:11behavioral issues. I know. I don't know what the hell's gotten into these kids that they're
04:15not getting into more video games. Yeah. Your damn phones, get off your phone, get out there
04:21and transgress. That's it, man. I'm tired. I'm tired of all these, these just boring milk dud
04:29leveled interest. Just, this is bland. Yes. This is not even exciting. I can't even get
04:36a Snickers bar. Oh my God. Rob a liquor store. Do something. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Don't shoot
04:41anybody. Nothing that hurts people physically or anything, but just give us some spice man.
04:46Um, so both these guys are locked in now through 2027. CJ is set to make fully guaranteed, uh,
04:54nearly 26 million in 2027. And Will Anderson jr. Is set to make 21 and a half million in 2027.
05:02And those, the way extensions work, like we'll use will cause he's the far more likely to get an
05:07extension. He'll sign a four-year extension or whatever it is sometime in the next few months.
05:12And it'll start, it'll like the big money other than the signing bonus. They give him the big
05:16money. He'll kick in in 2028. So, so the, the CJ and will are still going to be at a
05:23reasonable
05:25manageable salary cap figure this year, a little less manageable in 2027, but not an absolute killer.
05:33I think what we're all hoping for is that CJ Stroud has a season in 2026. That makes this a
05:37conversation again. That's what I'm hoping for, um, is that he has a really good season that,
05:42that makes it feel, that makes it feel good to give him a contract extension. I don't want a season
05:47that kind of hovers in the middle where they feel like they give him one of those contract extensions
05:52where it's like, all right, well, it's harder to go find somebody to replace CJ Stroud than it is to
05:57just go ahead and pay CJ Stroud. I want to feel good about it. You know? Yeah. That's, um, you
06:01want to,
06:01you're exactly. And even if you don't feel great about it, you can go to back to Trevor Lawrence.
06:07And when he got his extension, I don't look the first half of this season, I go on in Jacksonville
06:13radio every now and then those guys didn't see ball seem all that super enthusiastic about having
06:18paid Trevor Lawrence. And then the second half of the season with a, with a new coach, things kind
06:23of clicked, but we've seen that story before with Trevor Lawrence, with Doug Peterson, where in the
06:28second half of that season, everything kind of clicked for him and he looked like he was
06:32going to be everything that people had promised in the draft. I, yeah, I just, I don't want to go
06:37into, I really, really, really don't feel like going to next off season feeling like, oh boy, well,
06:43I guess, I guess you got to pay him because what else are you going to do? Damn it. They
06:48finished,
06:48they made the playoffs again. So they got the 28th overall pick and who are you going to get anyway?
06:53We'll kick this around at the top of the hour. Again, the thought of what would a lack of an
06:58extension mean to CJ Stroud or potentially the locker room, a national pundit and host that we
07:04discuss on this show from time to time had some takes on it that we'll get to at the top
07:08of the
07:09hour. We'll do that at seven o'clock. If we go through this, so I found the most polarizing
07:13players in the draft right now, since what we're looking for is spiciness. Yeah, we need spice.
07:18Let's stop when we get to one that's relevant to the Texans. Okay. Ty Simpson, just because of the
07:24the fact that he's a quarterback and he's the second best quarterback in the NFL and he's in
07:28the draft. He is in, he is of interest to the Texans the same way Jackson Dart was last year.
07:34Yeah. If he starts to fall in the draft, then Nick puts the pickup for sale. Yeah. You know,
07:38like teams you want, if you're a Texan fan that wants to get out of the first round. Yeah. You
07:43should want Ty Simpson to fall to 28 in the draft. So, okay. And then we need to monitor which
07:48teams
07:48might be. Okay. Good. Right. That's good, Sean. Thanks. I like that. Thank you. That's good.
07:53Reuben Bain and his elfin arms. His skinny little gator arms. Yeah. They're not skinny. They're pretty
07:59stout, but they're just short. Yep. Reuben Bain and will his elfin arms keep him from finally
08:06climbing that tree? That's not, that's, that is very bland spice right there. It's still,
08:11yeah, it's not going to get all the way down to the Texans either. Yeah. The other, I mean,
08:14uh, you know, uh, the cornerback McCoy, it's because he had an ACL tear. That's not necessarily
08:19interesting to the Texans. Um, Micah Morris, the guard. Yeah. Guard he, uh, Georgia, right?
08:27Yeah. Yeah. Some teams have questions about his work. He's like a day two or day three guys. So
08:32yeah. Well, right. No, but that's, but that's a potentially a guy. Okay. Might be off the board.
08:37Yeah. I, that's weird. Micah Morris, they have listed here above Caden Proctor. Do you,
08:42is that the, that's the one you're looking at the Jeremy Fowler article, right? Yeah. That's
08:45when, when you get to Caden Proctor, I think that's the, that's the one that's most relevant
08:50to the Texans, a guy that physically looks like he should be a top 15 talent, but could fall all
08:56the way to the Texans really because of concerns about whether he can manage his weight and perhaps
09:01his personality and all these other things. How spicy is laziness? It's spicy when you come to,
09:07all right, this is good. If, if Caden Proctor keeps falling on the draft board and you're a
09:12Texans fan, you're going to be watching highlights of Caden Proctor as a receiver,
09:17trucking people into the end zone, pancaking people and everything. If that's, if there's
09:21a chance that he might not even be on the Texans board, if that's the only condiment on the table
09:26at the diner, I guess I'll have to sprinkle it on my omelet right now from the Jeremy Fowler article.
09:31He should be a top five pick. He can be so good if he wants to be, but some of
09:36the questions
09:36surrounding Proctor have to do with his weight, which scouts say balloon to around 390 early in
09:42390. Yeah. I played his way into shape to a down 350. I would say you said this when we
09:49were,
09:49we did a segment on Proctor. He was probably one of the picks in the mock draft injection
09:52a couple of weeks ago is when you first said this is that, uh, or it might've been anonymous scouts
09:58or something. It was the anonymous scouts. That's what it was. And you said that he might not even be
10:02on
10:02the Texans board, just based on some of the things these scouts are saying and what we know,
10:06a, the Texans look for and be this, the, the sheer size of the Texans big board is smaller than
10:12most
10:12teams. This is what you need to know about Caden Proctor. I think from a physical standpoint and
10:17from some of the things he's done on the football field, the Texans are definitely interested in him.
10:21Why do I know that? Because they brought him in for a top 30. I was just looking that up.
10:23Okay,
10:24good. They did bring him up. Okay. They brought him in for a top 30 visit, but as D'Amico
10:27and Nick have
10:28said at various times, sometimes you bring in a guy on a top 30 visit just to confirm that you
10:34don't want the guy. That's correct. That you're intrigued by him, but there's certain things that
10:39are holding you back and you just want to be sure about it. So for Caden Proctor, a lot of
10:44it really
10:44might come down to how did he conduct himself on his top 30 visit? Yeah. Did he have answers for
10:49some
10:50because John had brought up that, Hey, his weight was a concern, but they figured out a way to motivate
10:54him to keep his weight down. Yep. But part of it was reportedly by promising them that they would
11:00use him as a receiver. It was like, all right, let's do that. Do you think he asked for that
11:04at his 30 visit? Like how are you, how do you guys plan to use me as a receiver in
11:09the office?
11:10That would be beautiful. He's the last guy who remains unsigned because he demands at least 10
11:17touches a year, three touches a game. Yeah. He's like a center in basketball, a big man where sometimes
11:22you just got to be sure you get them involved early on to keep them engaged. If you don't
11:25get Caden Proctor involved in the offense early, he checks out just like you gotta, just like
11:30you gotta give, you gotta allow Dwight to have a couple post-ups early in the game to,
11:35to, so he can, so he can just piss up the couple slant routes and, and check. Yeah.
11:41A couple slant routes to the big man.
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