00:00Mike Garofalo of the NFL Network said yesterday, Seth, that there has been no progress on a solution between Trent
00:06Williams and the 49ers, and they need to find one soon.
00:09And I thought that was interesting, and I saw that, that report, because it was retweeted by Grant Cohn, who
00:17covers the 49ers.
00:19Yes.
00:19In a somewhat polarizing and controversial fashion.
00:22Very successful, much despised.
00:25Yes, yes.
00:25Which I love.
00:26He's a very successful YouTuber out there.
00:29He gets into it with Kyle Shanahan and everything.
00:33Yes, he's at the press conferences and so forth.
00:38He retweeted that report from Garofalo and just said, trade him to Houston.
00:42I kind of like that.
00:43I kind of like that somebody around the 49ers is thinking that way.
00:47I wonder why Houston was what he came up with first.
00:50I wonder if it's the connection with D'Amico or whatever else.
00:54I'm trying to think, what's the big 49ers-Texans trade that I'm forgetting or the evidence of them having worked
01:01together in the past?
01:02Grant Cohn probably is just an NFL fan who saw the news they traded Titus Howard and said they've got
01:06a needed tackle, I would think.
01:07And the D'Amico factor.
01:11But then also, I wonder if maybe, I'm trying to figure out if also the Texans, maybe he thinks of
01:17the Texans as a team that's willing to make a crazy trade or something.
01:21I don't know.
01:22And he may know that Trent Williams has a house down here also.
01:25That's true.
01:26He covers Trent on a day-to-day basis, so it could be that.
01:30As you and I are just sitting here workshopping why he could have tweeted that, Grant Cohn, I feel like,
01:35man, we just came up with a really good list of reasons why that trade should happen maybe by me.
01:39I did a video on it yesterday.
01:41Oh, on Trent Williams?
01:42On my YouTube channel.
01:43On Trent Williams.
01:44Oh, awesome.
01:44And basically, I came from it with this angle.
01:47There are all the legitimate financial and strategic reasons for the Texans to not even dabble in this pool.
01:55And yet there's a more viscerally motivated side of me that says, it's Trent freaking Williams.
02:02Have you watched this guy play football?
02:04He's incredible.
02:05He's everything that you want in an offensive lineman who's not just one of the best offensive tackles in the
02:11league, but does it in a really tough and gritty and swarmy type fashion.
02:15You want, does this sound, okay, does this sound like offensive tackles that we've had here in the past that
02:20make a boatload of money?
02:22Wow.
02:22Now, on run plays, he's a demon, and he gets after it.
02:28No.
02:29Particularly on screens and outside run plays, he gets 20 yards downfield trucking people in open space and everything.
02:39Absolutely not.
02:39It looks like he has a real passion for running the football.
02:43Hell no.
02:43As well as being one of the best pass protectors in the league.
02:46Nope.
02:47Your question was, does that describe anybody that we've had in that spot?
02:52And I say, no, no.
02:54Well, at least recently.
02:55Some Texans fans might think, well, yes, but does he have 15 false starts a season?
03:00Unfortunately, no.
03:02Unfortunately, no.
03:03No, he actually is really good at not getting penalized.
03:05How stylish is his bag that he takes on the road to go to road games?
03:11I don't know if he's into Instagram as much as Laramie Tunsil is, but he definitely, yeah,
03:16he has some pretty smooth outfits.
03:17I will say he's a pretty good dresser, yeah.
03:19Okay.
03:20But in such a way that it always looks kind of like, I think he might be a very fashionable
03:27enforcer for the mob.
03:28Okay.
03:29He might work for an old Italian guy.
03:31Yeah.
03:31Like, he looks like.
03:32Not Laramie.
03:33He might show up, and I'm like, oh, this is a, if I'm going to have my fingers broken,
03:38at least this guy is stylishly dressed.
03:41Connor McGovern is putting out there, center recently, you know, of late for the Buffalo Bills,
03:46been around the league a while, is giving indications.
03:51He doesn't think he's going to be back.
03:52He and his representation have not heard anything from Brandon Bean, the recently promoted general
03:57manager for the Buffalo Bills.
03:59They haven't heard anything.
04:00So he's putting it out there.
04:02He was interviewed, and he doesn't expect to be back with the Buffalo Bills.
04:05We talked a ton about Tyler Linderbaum and throwing money at him.
04:09He would be, for sure, the highest paid center that's out there now.
04:13But should we be shifting our attention, Seth, to maybe the next aisle over, which would be
04:18Connor McGovern, maybe Tyler Biedash from the Washington Commanders, who's going to get
04:23cut here pretty soon, who's been a pretty solid center for them.
04:27Yeah.
04:27The spot rack value on McGovern is $16.3 million, for what that's worth.
04:31That's the AAV, as they say.
04:34I think that the important thing to remember right now is where, for one, don't worry about
04:38whatever cap numbers you see with the Texans, because it looks like they don't have any
04:44money to spend at all.
04:45They can create as much room as they need, realistically.
04:48And the biggest thing is that, as of right now, the Texans are, they have the least amount
04:53of money in the league committed to their offensive line.
04:56And even at spending, if they were to spend, like, just to have a cap hit of $10 million
05:04per year with five new offensive linemen, they still would only be slightly above average.
05:10So, and I think that that's not the way it all works.
05:15I don't want to get overly complicated about it.
05:17But they can spend, they could go out and sign four veteran players, as long as they're
05:22guys that are making about, you know, what the average starter in free agency would make
05:27and still be an average spending team when it comes to your offensive line, that I think
05:33that's very feasible.
05:33And it comes with getting guys like Connor McGovern instead of guys like Tyler Linderbaum.
05:37Yeah, yeah.
05:38That if you want to, if you want to get three or four new veterans on your roster, yeah,
05:42that's the aisle you should be shopping in.
05:45And, and I'm skeptical that they would go after a Linderbaum or frankly, a, a Trent Williams.
05:51Yeah, well, you, you made the analogy yesterday and it was a good one, which is, this is, this
05:55could be when we go back and look and see what they end up doing.
05:58Cause I think they will spend in free agency on the offensive line.
06:01If they wind up with say a McGovern and I don't know, uh, the, the, the guard from Pittsburgh,
06:06see a Malo, let's say they wind up with those two at a total of 25 million.
06:10Well, you could have Linderbaum at 25 million.
06:12It's a little bit of a Nnamdi Asamoah situation from 2011, where everybody wanted the Texans assigned
06:18Asamoah, man, this Kareem Jackson, he had drafted in 2010.
06:202010 is terrible.
06:22And he was, as a rookie became good.
06:24He's terrible.
06:25They need a corner.
06:26Nnamdi Asamoah is one of the best corners in football.
06:28Go sign that guy.
06:29And I'm sure that Rick Smith was in on him.
06:32Um, but instead they signed Jonathan Joseph and Daniel Manning for slightly more than
06:36what a Nnamdi Asamoah would have cost.
06:38And that could not have worked out any better.
06:39Now, I don't know that Linderbaum is going to go all Asamoah on us.
06:42I think Linderbaum will be fine.
06:44You know, it's funny though.
06:45And this is what you have to remember is that I got hit with a little bit of what I
06:47think
06:48was revisionist history.
06:49After we had that discussion, one of our listeners said, yeah, but Seth, everybody was super excited
06:55when it played out that way because they got two for the price of one.
06:59And I'm boy, I don't remember it that way.
07:03I remember it being until eventually people felt that way.
07:07But in the heat of the moment, I remember there being a lot of people that were saying, oh, here
07:11we go again.
07:12Yeah.
07:12Couldn't even go after the best player.
07:14Can't believe they're doing this.
07:15They suck.
07:16Blah, blah, blah, blah.
07:17I'm trying to remember how I felt at that time.
07:18I remember where I was when it happened.
07:20I was at Hubcap Burger up on 19th Street in the Heights.
07:23Delicious Burger.
07:24That isn't open anymore.
07:25That location.
07:26But anyway, it's a great name.
07:27Yeah, it's a good spot.
07:29Shout out to Ricky, the owner.
07:32But I remember, you know what I remember, Seth?
07:35I remember just being happy that they made moves.
07:37I remember being happy in that offseason, them doing things, which started with hiring Wade Phillips.
07:44Hiring Wade Phillips was the trigger event for drafting J.J. Watt.
07:49They had other, drafting Brooks Reed in the second round.
07:53Yeah.
07:53And then getting aggressive and free.
07:55It was still, even though it wasn't Nnamdi Asamoah, it was still an act of aggressiveness in free agency, which
08:01I liked.
08:02Well, and then, you know, J.J. Watt famously booed after they drafted him as well.
08:06Right.
08:06The public, the PR on a lot of the moves they made that offseason wasn't nearly as good as it
08:11would be six months later when the defense ended up being really good.
08:14Nope.
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