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00:00I don't know how camp's going with the Buffalo Bills.
00:03Probably a relevant camp to at least keep eyes on since that's the Tech 1 opponent.
00:08I'd imagine it's going fine.
00:09They've got a new head coach in Joe Brady, who's their old offensive coordinator.
00:13They also have C.J. Gardner-Johnson on their team.
00:15That's right.
00:16They signed him.
00:17C.J. Gardner-Johnson is on his 45th team in the last three years.
00:21Thereabouts.
00:22I counted.
00:23It looks like it's about 45 teams.
00:24It is only six teams in the last – well, five teams in the last six years,
00:28but that includes two separate stays with the Eagles.
00:30It's four in the last calendar year.
00:32In the calendar year?
00:34In the calendar year.
00:34He was a Texan this time last year.
00:36Right, but then he went to – where did he go before?
00:38Baltimore.
00:38Baltimore and then Chicago.
00:39Then Chicago, and now he's a Buffalo Bills.
00:41So six teams in the last six years.
00:43Yeah, and four in the last 12 months.
00:46Yeah.
00:46So it would appear C.J. Gardner-Johnson might be running out of string just in general
00:50as a football player here.
00:51Yeah.
00:51We'll see.
00:52He's on a one-year $3.5 million deal with the Buffalo Bills.
00:56He had a media scrum yesterday.
00:59Here's 38 seconds of audio with C.J. Gardner-Johnson in which he talks about his brief time in Houston
01:05last year, including the 0-3 start.
01:07Well, all reports out of here were that those three losses each had plays that C.J. Gardner-Johnson
01:13kind of went into business for himself.
01:15So we're going to play this audio, and then Seth is going to go back and pick it apart limb
01:19from limb.
01:20It's one of the most idiotic little defenses of oneself I've ever seen.
01:24This is when the guy decides to defend him.
01:28With no lawyer.
01:31Right, right.
01:32Yeah, defending yourself.
01:33He's no lawyer.
01:35Yeah, it's bad.
01:37It's bad.
01:37Here we go.
01:38C.J. Gardner-Johnson.
01:40I'm glad you asked about that text.
01:41You got me pissed now.
01:42I'm sorry.
01:42Appreciate you.
01:43Is that a good thing?
01:44That's a great thing.
01:45What happened?
01:46You said there were lies, like the way things ended.
01:48Y'all still ain't got no confirmed real story from what really happened.
01:52Let's talk about that.
01:53You want to talk about it?
01:54I'm like, well, where's the real story?
01:55What did I really do?
01:57They released you in September after you had, I think, a leg injury in August, right?
02:02They released me because I wasn't dealing with the team and I didn't fit well.
02:06Well, why didn't the coach spoke up about it?
02:11On the field or off the field, they say you didn't fit well.
02:15After the loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars, they said I didn't fit well.
02:18It was already starting 0-1-3, so how can it possibly be on one person?
02:21So now you're going to be fired up week one.
02:22I'm feeling it.
02:23No, Josh handled it up and the defense handled it up.
02:25So we'll do what we got to do.
02:26I mean, it's a good team.
02:27I'm not putting nothing past them.
02:28It's just the situation, how they handled me, and it just wasn't respectful.
02:32So as a grown man, I feel like when you see me, you see me.
02:36Yeah, it wasn't respectful.
02:38Okay, do you want to take these one at a time?
02:40I mean, because each step along the way, I'm like with each sentence.
02:43Okay, so first of all, the reporter screwed it up.
02:48That reporter sounded like he had no clue about all the story that came out after C.J. Gardner-Johnson
02:55was let go
02:56about him abdicating his responsibilities on the field in really big and harmful plays.
03:01Hexans defense, pointing fingers in the locker room, all of this stuff.
03:05Pocket watching.
03:06Yeah, pocket watching.
03:07Other contracts.
03:08Other contracts.
03:10We kind of assumed it was probably Jalen Petrie.
03:12All right, so take these one by one.
03:13All right, so why hasn't the coach spoke up about it?
03:16What the hell are you talking about?
03:17Is he talking about D'Amico?
03:18Yeah.
03:19Like, if those stories are true, how come the coach hasn't spoke up about it?
03:23That's more of an argument that it was true.
03:26Right.
03:26If a coach is going to speak up about something like this, usually coaches don't say a damn thing.
03:31If D'Amico felt like there was errant reporting on it or something, he might say, hey, you
03:35know what?
03:35It wasn't bad with C.J.
03:37We had a great time with him and everything.
03:38It just wasn't going to work out.
03:40Like, it wasn't as bad as it's being painted out.
03:43So, like, yeah, they never – nobody's ever like, oh, I can't believe D'Amico hasn't
03:48weighed in on this.
03:49No, this is precisely the kind of thing that D'Amico and other coaches wouldn't weigh in
03:53on.
03:53Right.
03:53The other part.
03:55All right.
03:55After starting 0-3, the quote, after starting 0-3, so how can it possibly be on one person?
04:02All right.
04:03First of all, straw man, nobody's claiming that any football game is ever about one
04:07single person.
04:08Like we talked about earlier with Shady McCoy.
04:10Yeah, there's multiple areas that you have to address.
04:13But how on earth can you sit there and say, oh, we're 0-3, but somehow it's my fault?
04:20Well, CJ Gardner-Johnson, they went 13-3 after you were gone.
04:24This is a bad look for you in trying to say that it wasn't about you.
04:28When they went on a 13-3 run after they let you go.
04:32Yeah, they were a better team.
04:33Look, correlation is not causation and whatnot, but since you're the one who's bringing it
04:37up, yeah, things got way better after you were gone.
04:42The situation and how they handled me, it just wasn't respectful.
04:46All right.
04:47Now, this is the thing.
04:48I don't know who gave DJ Bien-Aimé some of the info about what happened in the locker
04:54room.
04:54You don't know if that came from players, coaches, equipment staff, whatever it might
04:58be.
04:58I felt like as far as the team and how they released them and everything, it just made
05:02sense that they released them when they did.
05:04And they would go on to have great success on the defense without him.
05:08You could also tell that whoever fed it to DJ also gave very specific things in each
05:14of the games that were where fault was attributed to CJ Gardner-Johnson.
05:20Right.
05:20And it's stuff that you wouldn't necessarily know exactly unless you knew exactly what
05:24the coverage was.
05:25Like when CJ Gardner-Johnson took the route in the flat when he was supposed to be covering
05:32Brian Thomas Jr. on that long reception in the Jaguars game.
05:36That was like, you wouldn't 100% know that that was the case unless you knew what the
05:40coverage was.
05:40So that's coming in.
05:42That's coming from inside the building.
05:44But from whom?
05:44You don't know if it was the team, the players, whatever it might have been.
05:47Yeah.
05:47The, but then beyond that, it's just that this is now like CJ Gardner-Johnson, in his
05:53mind is 6-0 when it comes to it being the team's fault for why he was let go.
05:59You know, the Eagles didn't treat him right after they didn't choose to resign him.
06:03Oh, you're saying it was previous stops.
06:04It's always, it's always the team's fault.
06:06Are you, are you in retrospect?
06:08I thought about this yesterday watching this audio and I know there's a whole thing like,
06:12hey, like the Deontay Johnson is the example a couple of years ago.
06:15Like, hey, just get him in the building and maybe here in our environment, they, we get
06:19a better version of themselves.
06:21I think Stephon Diggs was a guy who had issues at previous stops and he came here and I thought
06:25they got, for the brief time he was here, I thought they got the best version of, I
06:29think they even voted Diggs a captain here.
06:31Everybody that, everything that Texans fans are saying right now about CJ Gardner-Johnson,
06:35the Bills fans, is what Bills fans were saying to us about Stephon Diggs.
06:38Correct.
06:39Now, in retrospect though, Stephon Diggs, prior to coming to Houston, had not been on four
06:44different teams in four different years.
06:47I listened to that audio yesterday and the further and further away we get from it, I'm
06:51shocked that they brought him in here.
06:52I know they got him for nothing.
06:54They traded, Kenyon Green they were going to cut, so they did one of those deals where the
06:58Eagles are looking to unload a contract.
06:59By the way, the Eagles, who re-sign everybody, they give extensions, they have credit cards
07:05out through, for the next six years to re-sign everybody.
07:09They just made Jalen Carter the highest paid defensive tackle.
07:12They don't let guys go there.
07:13They rarely have cap casualties because their owner is so willing to do all the voidable year
07:19things that rich owners can do.
07:22I'm just, the further and further away we get from it, I'm shocked that he ever became a
07:26Houston Texan in the first place.
07:27Well, they did.
07:27I'm not shocked because I think that's exactly, that's something that is, it was an old New
07:33England Patriots thing that I'm glad that Nick is open to, which is sign a guy like that,
07:38in the building, like Albert Hainsworth in New England, and as soon as you realize, okay,
07:43yep, he is exactly who people said he was, then you get rid of him.
07:46You gotta be, you gotta be willing to cut ties and not continue to try to muddle through
07:50a really bad situation.
07:51Yeah.
07:51So I felt like, I felt like they handled that perfectly.
07:54Maybe they should have seen the writing on the wall earlier.
07:57Maybe if he had, maybe if he hadn't gotten injured in camp, then maybe they, you know,
08:01they would have seen more of that behavior if he was out there.
08:04Yeah.
08:05This is the second year in a row now too, where he's had an injury in a camp practice and
08:09He been carted off.
08:10And been pretty damn dramatic about it to the point where it looked like he was done for
08:14the year and now all of a sudden he's back.
08:15Yeah, he was back practicing.
08:16For those who saw the news over the weekend that, oh my God, CJ Garner Johnson got carted off
08:20again.
08:21Yeah.
08:21He was at practice with a sleeve on his calf yesterday.
08:23Yeah.
08:24So, um, yeah.
08:25So he's, uh, he's dishing on the Houston Texans.
08:28The story he had also told to a Buffalo reporter, he told it to the athletic earlier, uh, this,
08:32this off season was that it all started when he got into it with some friend of the GMs
08:38who, uh, wasn't even involved all that much with the team.
08:42And ever since, and, and after that, okay.
08:44So yeah.
08:44Okay.
08:45Again, yet another altercation apparently where CJ Garner Johnson wasn't to blame.
08:49Right.
08:49And we're not like some guy who's nameless, some guy who's not even all that involved with
08:54the team, but he's a friend of the GM.
08:55There's a good chance it might've been Cal McNair.
08:57I don't like, how the hell does he know who is and isn't involved with the team all that
09:01much some guy who's sitting around on a golf cart could have been, you know, we were there.
09:07We were there.
09:07Yeah.
09:08Yeah.
09:08We're at the cream.
09:09We didn't get into it with CJ Garner.
09:10No, but he might thought we were being mugging him or something.
09:12He might've imagined that we were.
09:14Yeah.
09:15Yeah.
09:15Yeah.
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