Incidente OVNI Bariloche - Almorzando con Mirtha Legrand (Canal 9, 04/08/1995) - Vídeo Dailymotion

Luis Emilio Annino

- Caso: Incidente OVNI Bariloche  - Moderadora: Mirtha Legrand  - Participantes: Jorge Polanco, Carlos Gaitán, Antonio Las Heras y el Matrimonio de Berta y Silverio Cabral.   1. Testimonio Técnico (Jorge Polanco - Comandante AR)  Fue el relato de mayor peso por su cercanía al objeto. Polanco expuso:  - Interacción directa: El objeto respondió a sus señales de luces. Cuando Polanco encendió los faros de aterrizaje, el objeto cambió de color blanco a un naranja intenso y aumentó su volumen.  - La Maniobra de Escape: Relató la tensión de estar en aproximación final hacia una pista a oscuras (por el apagón) con el objeto a solo 30 metros de su ala. Describió una estructura física sólida, no gaseosa, con forma de "disco" y luces que pulsaban rítmicamente.  - Desafío a la física: Destacó que el objeto se alejó a una velocidad inalcanzable para cualquier caza militar en el momento en que se restableció la luz en la pista.   2. Validación Aérea (Carlos Gaitán - Comandante Gendarmería)  Su intervención fue crucial para descartar errores de percepción de una sola tripulación:  - Triangulación: Confirmó que, desde su avión (vuelo sanitario), observaba el objeto desde un ángulo distinto al de Polanco, lo que ratifica la tridimensionalidad y existencia física del fenómeno.  - Confirmación de movimientos: Validó que el objeto "jugaba" con las aeronaves, moviéndose de forma errática y con aceleraciones instantáneas.   3. El Marco Científico (Antonio Las Heras - Especialista)  Las Heras elevó el debate del plano anecdótico al científico:  - Inteligencia no humana: Sostuvo que las maniobras (ángulos de 90 grados a alta velocidad) indicaban una tecnología que no utiliza propulsión convencional.  - Hipótesis Electromagnética: Explicó que el apagón total en el Aeropuerto de Bariloche y la ciudad fue, con alta probabilidad, una consecuencia del campo electromagnético generado por la cercanía de la nave.   4. La Evidencia desde Tierra (Matrimonio Cabrales)  Su participación cerró el círculo de testigos:  - Perspectiva Civil: Relataron haber visto las luces sobre el cerro y el aeropuerto desde su residencia. Su relato coincidió temporalmente con el reporte de los pilotos y el inicio del corte de luz.  - Impacto Visual: Describieron una luminosidad que no se parecía a nada conocido en la zona, descartando confusiones con estrellas o satélites debido a la baja altura y los movimientos bruscos.   Conclusión del Programa  La mesa concluyó que el evento fue innegable y físico, afectando la seguridad aérea de dos aeronaves y la infraestructura eléctrica de una ciudad. Este programa es recordado como el momento en que el "Caso Bariloche" se convirtió en un fenómeno de interés nacional, obligando años después a la desclasificación de archivos oficiales.

Transcript

00:00Jorge Polanco, airline pilot who was dazzled by the Bariloche UFO mid-flight.

00:06Well, he was dazzled, and thank you very much.

00:08We're going to get there.

00:16Forward.

00:20He must not be crazy, poor thing, right?

00:23No.

00:24Has it flown since then or not?

00:26No, I haven't been able to.

00:26Couldn't he?

00:27I haven't been able to because...

00:28Radio stations, television channels, television programs...

00:31This took on a dimension I never expected.

00:33Impressive, isn't it?

00:34Did he never wait?

00:35No.

00:36Not because...

00:37But that was to be expected, yes.

00:38The problem is that we haven't had the opportunity to reflect and calmly sit down and evaluate those who

00:46We had to live through this.

00:47Oh, you haven't gotten together? Haven't you met up with your colleagues?

00:49No, we haven't had the chance because this was...

00:52Thank you.

00:52Thank you. It was playing on New Year's Eve and again on Tuesday at 6:30 in the morning.

01:00the phone to my house and to this day we really haven't had the possibility, not even, except

01:06in some journalistic program, to meet and talk among ourselves.

01:12I even found out now that a married couple came on this show.

01:16Yes, from Bariloche, yes.

01:17This work in Bariloche would coincide exactly with what I experienced, but they experienced it from a different perspective.

01:24where...

01:24Ah, yes, yes. They saw him in Bariloche.

01:26So...

01:26They testify and attest that they have seen him.

01:29They just arrived, huh? After a terribly rough trip.

01:31Is the airport closed?

01:32It's closed. They traveled at night. I already mentioned that at the beginning.

01:35They traveled at night from Bariloche to Neuquén.

01:37They say the road was a horror, a horror, that there were cars stopped.

01:40So the minibus, the airline bus, had passengers on board ready to board, and there was no way because...

01:47They arrived on time.

01:48What a storm, too, tremendous, huh?

01:50Yes. I was telling him that exactly one week earlier, on the 26th, when the big storm hit Bariloche as well,

01:59I was the one who had to turn back from Bariloche on that flight because there was a major power outage.

02:02But in that case, it was because trees had fallen on top of the power plants or the

02:09high voltage cables

02:09And the whole city was left without power as well.

02:12I can imagine how many times he's told this story.

02:14Many.

02:15Are you tired of telling it already?

02:18The thing is, I believe there should be a period of time where one has the capacity to

02:26count

02:27and to tell what he had to live through.

02:31The only time we were all able to get together, those of us who lived through this, was on land.

02:37together with the gendarmerie commander.

02:39When you arrive, continue, I won't interrupt you.

02:42And the people at the airport, then, decided to prepare a document of everything we had seen and experienced

02:49And I signed it and left it, and that's where I made the mistake of leaving my phone.

02:54Because the next day, I repeat, at six thirty in the morning all this started, which, well,

02:58I can't handle it.

02:59It's really...

03:00And were you scared or not?

03:03I wasn't scared, but I'd say I wasn't prepared to have this kind of encounter with a

03:11object against something well defined, well...

03:15Besides...

03:16Now, their colleagues haven't done much to them...

03:18Leave, just leave your hat.

03:19They haven't done many interviews, have they?

03:21Who are they?

03:22Well, the first officer, my copilot, Mr. Dortona, the flight engineer, Mr. Jorge Allende,

03:31And accompanying them in the cockpit at that moment, on the flight, was a Boeing 747 Jumbo first officer.

03:37who was casually going to look for his son in Bariloche.

03:40Okay, then he's going to tell us about the dialogue between you, what happened when...

03:43Because something must have happened when they see this phenomenon.

03:46Hey, what's this? Look at the terrible thing that's coming our way.

03:49And asking for information from the ground, too, right?

03:52Constantly, yes, because at some point we start to worry...

03:55Clear.

03:56...seriously.

03:57Seriously, right?

03:57Yeah.

03:58Did you think it was going to overtake them, that it was coming at them?

04:00That he attacked them or that he confronted them.

04:02No, no, no, no.

04:03And what did you think it was? A UFO?

04:06I became aware of it when I saw it.

04:08Yeah?

04:08Until that moment I resisted or refused to think that it could be a UFO.

04:12Yes, yes, yes.

04:12Do you know that I didn't believe it, I never believed it, until two days ago when I heard you?

04:18Well, believe it.

04:19Hey?

04:19Believe it.

04:20Believe it.

04:21Yeah.

04:21Ah, it's because I've convinced them, they tell me.

04:23Yes, yes, yes.

04:23It almost scares me.

04:25No, they're not scary. That's the... the good thing about all this is that they're not scary.

04:29Okay, let's invite the commander now too...

04:32Excuse me for a moment, please, Commander Juan Domingo Gaitán,

04:35who is a gendarmerie pilot, who also saw the Bariloche UFO.

04:39Forward.

04:44Applause.

04:46Applause.

04:47Applause.

04:48Applause.

04:50Applause.

04:51Applause.

04:52Applause.

04:53Applause.

04:53Sit down, you'll be fine here.

04:55Well, Commander Gaitán, you're from the gendarmerie, I see, aren't you?

04:59Were you the commander of the ship, the plane, I mean?

05:02I was the pilot in command of the plane, the GN 705, which was flying from Neuquén to Bariloche to do a

05:10medical service to Aeroparque.

05:12Oh, did I have to pick someone up, help someone to my feet?

05:15Applause.

05:16Applause.

05:20Applause.

05:21And what happens when you see the phenomenon? You see it, right? The light.

05:24Of course, I don't have the opportunity, let's say, to see it directly like Polanco did.

05:30We saw another kind of manifestation of the phenomenon.

05:34You are, excuse me, I go by what I have read and what I have heard from you.

05:39on various television programs,

05:41But you were flying above the plane, weren't you?

05:44We were approaching Bariloche when we heard Polanco announce the news,

05:51He asks the Bariloche checkpoint if there was any traffic in the area.

05:56because it seemed to him there was a traffic.

05:59Transit is defined as any movement of a ship that is nearby.

06:03Then the tower tells him no, Polanco continues with his procedure to go to landing

06:11And suddenly he repeats the question to Bariloche.

06:15He tells her, no, the only traffic we have is the Gendarmerie 705, but it is still outside the TMA.

06:24What is TMA?

06:25The TMA is an area that has Bariloche under its control.

06:29Ah, I understand, yes, yes.

06:31Then he says, yes, but you tell me I don't have any transit, but I have a transit here to

06:3611 o'clock.

06:37In other words, at 11 o'clock, the reference point is the hour hand placed on the number 11.

06:42and number 12 would be the aircraft test, so it would be given slightly to the left.

06:46And did you communicate with each other?

06:48No, because it's not customary to...

06:50But we listened to each other.

06:51Ah, they could be heard.

06:52Because we were on the same wavelength.

06:54And what were you listening to? What the commander was saying?

06:56Exactly what the commander was talking about.

06:57With the Bariloche control tower.

06:59And what did you say to the control tower?

07:00Well, I asked him to certify the presence of any other traffic because, as it had remained

07:07Bariloche experienced a power outage for about 10 minutes, but they had regained power.

07:14with a generator set they have at the airport.

07:17Ah, yes, it was an emergency, of course.

07:19That's right, it was an emergency generator, but it can function normally, meaning it supplies the airport well.

07:25So we were doing that whole procedure thanks to that generator that I had running.

07:33I, until the beginning of the procedure, when I first begin to glimpse all that white light

07:39which was getting stronger and stronger and appeared to be on our path,

07:45What I started to do was... I didn't believe at that moment that it could be some object.

07:51Perfect. I was almost convinced it was some other plane in the area.

07:56And since communication had been interrupted, he was just wandering around.

08:00Well, I can confirm, the tower tells me no, negative, there is no traffic.

08:04The only thing is the November goal, it's nearby, I hear him confirming their position.

08:11And that's when I really started to worry because I realized it wasn't an airplane.

08:14Well, he'll tell me later at the table, because he tells me everything now.

08:17I want them to tell us everything really, really, really well in detail.

08:20No one on the passenger list noticed anything, right?

08:23There was a correspondent from La Nación there, wasn't there? Mariano de Bedia.

08:28It is important that you emphasize this.

08:31It is also standard practice for any airline, in our case Aerolíneas Argentinas, and as our responsibility,

08:39not to alert the passenger if one is experiencing such a phenomenon,

08:42Because people can take it calmly, or hysterically, so my responsibility is to keep my passengers calm.

08:49There were over 100 people with me, and I certainly couldn't put on a show about there being a

08:55flying saucer next to it.

08:57Furthermore, the light in the passenger cabin is much more intense, making it very difficult for the person who

09:03It's about visualizing what's out there.

09:05The fuselage has more light than the cabin.

09:09The bad, the strange thing about this is that I found out later that this journalist who was back there, poor guy,

09:15He, let's say, either misses this or doesn't take notice.

09:20And when we then proceeded to make the escape, I say that if I had been a journalist,

09:27My journalistic curiosity would have led me to go to the cockpit and ask the commander what was happening.

09:33And the poor man wakes up the next day realizing that the news passed him by and he didn't hear it.

09:38see.

09:39So I understand that he might be upset about that.

09:41He was going to an anniversary of the Balseiro Institute, wasn't he?

09:45Exact.

09:45The Atomic Energy Institute, exactly.

09:47Well, we now welcome, if you will allow me, the married couple Berta and Silverio Cabral,

09:53witnesses of the UFO sighting in Bariloche.

09:55Forward!

10:09I mean, how tired are they?

10:12Well, do you know Commander Polanco?

10:14We just met them here, and I found out about them at the same time as him. We started chatting and it surprised us because they really

10:25They were underneath,

10:29That is, they were able to observe from another perspective and practically from their home.

10:34I just found out that they had just arrived from Bariloche, so I'm glad they can be here because they

10:42They also have a different view.

10:43Another perspective, and poor things, I don't know how they can speak, what a trip, I am so grateful to them.

10:48I honestly don't know if I would have done it.

10:50What has led you to undertake such a cruel journey, I would say, of...

10:55How many are there? 600 kilometers from...

10:57Neuquén.

10:58From Neuquén, Bariloche to Neuquén and vice versa, well.

11:01600 kilometers?

11:03Did they do it by car?

11:05Yes, by car, yes.

11:05So what? Is it true that there was an airline bus that couldn't arrive?

11:10Yeah.

11:10Like three buses.

11:12On the route, on the way?

11:13Yes, they were crossed on the route.

11:14Why because of the snow? Impossible!

11:16And the ice that was there.

11:18And do the planes depart from Neuquén?

11:19Yes, from Neuquén, yes, it's operational.

11:22It is operable.

11:23But Bariloche remains closed.

11:24No, it's inoperable.

11:25Yeah.

11:25It is inoperable.

11:26Well, what do you see? Are you from Bariloche? No, I think you're from Formosa.

11:30Yes, I'm from Formosa, but I've been in Bariloche for many years.

11:34Uh-huh.

11:35Do they live there?

11:35We are 17 kilometers from Bariloche.

11:38Ah, yes.

11:38We are in an area...

11:40Which side are they on?

11:40In an area to the north, as if coming towards Buenos Aires.

11:44Uh-huh.

11:4517 kilometers from Bariloche.

11:49And we were there on the 31st night.

11:53Yeah.

11:54We'd grab it and it would be...

11:56No, the power goes out.

11:57The power goes out at approximately 8:05 pm.

12:015, 8 and it will have been more.

12:02Yes, yes.

12:03We don't calculate the time that...

12:05I tell my wife, I tell her, I took advantage of the power outage, let's go get some cigarettes.

12:10Well.

12:11Because the power had already been cut off a week earlier and they were without electricity for a long time.

12:15So, well, she tells me, and we left right away, we didn't think twice about leaving.

12:20Well.

12:21She leaves, she wants to start the car, because she drives the car, and the car won't start.

12:27Uh-huh.

12:27And we had taken it out of the workshop 3 days ago.

12:30The car wouldn't start?

12:31The car wouldn't start.

12:32But the new car.

12:32The car wouldn't start.

12:33But that's not it, it wasn't an electricity problem.

12:36Then I signal to him from the front to lift the hood, I touch it a little bit and he starts it.

12:43Perfect.

12:44Uh-huh.

12:45Uh-huh.

12:45We went all the way to the...

12:47More or less 10 blocks, 8 blocks, 10 remains.

12:50Uh-huh.

12:50Yes, yes.

12:51A supermarket that is complete has everything.

12:53Yes, yes.

12:54I buy two packs of cigarettes and go out, but very carefully, with plenty of ice.

12:59Clear.

12:59On the other side of the road.

13:01Uh-huh.

13:01We are on the lake side.

13:02Ah, yes.

13:03Well, and when we're about to cross the road, my husband tells me, be careful of the ice by the car,

13:11that they row there.

13:12It's extremely dangerous.

13:13It's extremely dangerous.

13:38It's extremely dangerous.

13:39Yes, yes.

13:39Very dangerous.

13:42Of course, the road from the airport goes right to where the television channel is located and then turns off towards Bariloche.

13:47Well, I was about that high up.

13:50But it was an immense light.

13:52Immense.

13:53Right.

13:53Give it to me, give it to me, I'll put it here.

13:55Give it to me.

13:55Yeah.

13:56Yes, an intense orange light.

14:00Uh-huh.

14:01And round.

14:02That matches what you explained.

14:03Very bright orange in color.

14:05It's just been revealed, let's see.

14:07And on both sides.

14:08Or in two, in three.

14:09No, it wasn't much.

14:10On both sides.

14:11We appreciate a green light between green and strong blue.

14:16The light was very beautiful, sometimes very orange and sometimes kind of white, that's what it wanted to be.

14:24I don't know if...

14:26Were there other people present at that time?

14:28No, no, there was nobody around at that time.

14:30Was it snowing?

14:31No, no, no.

14:32They weren't snowing.

14:32There were some clouds where I was, more or less, there were just a few clouds.

14:37There was a star and the moon.

14:39Well, they'll tell us all about it later.

14:40Yes, it's something that's fascinating, by the way.

14:44We will now welcome Dr. Antonio Laceras, a UFO researcher.

14:48Let's see what he has to say.

14:49A great legacy.

14:53A great legacy.

14:56How is the Cabral marriage arranged?

14:58It took us an hour, it took me an hour to interrogate them all.

15:02Ah, yes, well, please sit down.

15:03Everyone has already greeted each other, then.

15:05Thank you so much.

15:05Well, what do you think happened, Dr. Laceras?

15:07Yes, first I have to tell you that this is the first lunch where I think we're going to end up convincing her of the

15:14existence of unidentified flying objects.

15:16Still, we'll see.

15:17Wait.

15:17Don't rush.

15:19And what do I think?

15:20I think, firstly, that I am convinced, especially because of the testimonies, thank you, that I find, that we are in the presence of the observation of

15:30a piloted extraterrestrial vehicle.

15:32I didn't realize it.

15:33And then, throughout the program, I'll explain why, but as they tell their stories

15:38the anecdotes.

15:40Next, do you remember that on June 19th, when we were here, I told you about my UFO book?

15:46Astronaut documents?

15:47Yes, yes, yes.

15:48In this book, which predates what happens to them, I dedicated an entire chapter to them.

15:55UFO pilots, and even verbatim.

16:00It was reported more than once that the film cameras of the famous X-15 rocket plane, do you remember the

16:06X-15 test aircraft?

16:07The United States Air Force showed footage of unknown objects that they appeared to be closely monitoring.

16:15Those aeronautical experiences, like when the UFO followed your plane.

16:20And another thing we note here, in this book, UFOs, Astronaut Documents, the presence of extraterrestrial vehicles

16:27near an aircraft, it has not caused, at least until today, the shutdown of its propulsion sources.

16:34None of you had problems of that kind.

16:36Meanwhile, in Bariloche, the power supply had been cut off...

16:42Do you think it had anything to do with, that it was related to, the power outage at the airport?

16:47Commander, what is your opinion?

16:48I might think that, in some way, if I take as a definition that this type of object generates certain causes

16:59and effects in each appearance,

17:02It wouldn't be at all strange to connect it, because just here, before entering the program, I met him and the commander.

17:10Gaitán,

17:12We were discussing how, specifically at the airport, the generator has an amperage indicator,

17:20and that, prior to the passage of this object, the indicator made a whip-like motion as if... as if it had been

17:28He used up all his energy and then stopped.

17:30And the power went out, which is where it bothers me.

17:32The power goes out twice, doesn't it?

17:34Yes, but the first time it's cut off from the city.

17:37The power goes out, all of Bariloche is left without electricity, which is when, at the time the lady says, it was

17:418 o'clock...

17:428.15.

17:438.15.

17:44Yes, yes, I read it in the newspaper, it said, blackout, big blackout in Bariloche.

17:47Of course, we, flying from 31,000 feet, observed that the light, all the light of Bariloche, went out.

17:52And seeing that black lake there, how horrible, right?

17:55Well, it's obvious, it's obvious, it's obvious.

17:56No, it's not visible.

17:57Oh, you can't see it?

17:57Everything was dark.

17:58No, of course, a black hole, that's what I think, that's what you see.

18:01Okay, we have to go to the dining room, they're asking me to go here, and we'll continue with the topic.

18:04Do they have anything? Did they eat anything? No? Did they have breakfast or anything?

18:07Well, you all are hungry. Come on, let's go to the table.

18:10Join us. I'm going to make a toast to you all, because I'm so glad you're here.

18:13Ah, it has its own little homeland.

18:15There it is.

18:17Thank you so much. Thank you, doctor. Thank you, doctor.

18:20Thank you very much, Commander.

18:27They are having lunch today with Mrs. Mirta Legrán.

18:34Commander Jorge Polanco, Aerolíneas pilot.

18:48Commander Juan Domingo Gaitán, pilot of the Gendarmerie plane.

19:03Mrs. Berta Cabral, a housewife, witnessed the UFO sighting in Bariloche.

19:19Dr. Antonio Laceras, UFO researcher.

19:35Mr. Silverio Cabral, retired police officer.

19:41Witness to the UFO sighting in Bariloche.

19:50With us, Mrs. Mirta Legrán from Dinero.

20:01Well, this is informal, like we're at home, so tell us whatever you want.

20:07And if they disagree on something, they can say so too.

20:11You were just telling me something, Berta, during the break, that surprised me a lot.

20:15What caused all this?

20:18Having seen the UFO in his spirit.

20:22You told me that you achieved a calm, a peace.

20:26And I say that for me, something appears there on the planet, or there is something more than what we believe.

20:40that only we live.

20:42There is someone else.

20:43And they come to tell me, please stop for me, because it left me feeling sedated.

20:50It feels like a message within all of this.

20:52Oh, but you think they're from this planet?

20:54I don't know.

20:55No, no, I don't know from which planet, but I mean that on this planet we don't seem to live, we beings

21:03humans only.

21:04And weren't you scared?

21:05No no.

21:06Weren't you scared, Silverio?

21:07No, not at all.

21:09On the contrary, we were simply surprised.

21:13Yeah.

21:13Surprised by the, let's say, by the intense light that, let's say, flashed, let's say, for us who were inside the car.

21:24We thought it was an airplane, as I told my wife.

21:27Yes, yes, yes.

21:28But very strange.

21:28But very strange because of the intensity, let's say, of the orange light it gave off and the small flashes of color

21:35bright green and blue.

21:38And something orange, she told me too.

21:39And the one that stood out was the orange color.

21:42And then he loosened the orange a little and made it a little whiter, lighter.

21:49And you were just saying, Commander...

21:51It fully coincides with Commander Polanco's testimony.

21:52The commander was just saying that he and Commander Gaitán agreed, didn't they?, on the schedules that you...

21:59You tell me, you're hungry, aren't you?

22:01They haven't let me eat for three days.

22:03That the media, the reports, the articles...

22:06I was just asking him during the break, "Has this upset him at all?"

22:09I was asking Commander Polanco.

22:12I mean, has this changed anything?

22:14He tells me, yes, it has changed my life.

22:16He hopes things will return to normal.

22:17But it's temporary.

22:18It's the journalistic impact.

22:20Yes, of course, of course.

22:21It is not easy, I insist, to find testimonies from such qualified witnesses.

22:27That's what I meant.

22:28These people aren't going to confuse ball lightning with a lenticular cloud.

22:33There is no doubt that there was no other aircraft and no ground equipment nearby.

22:37With a meteorite.

22:38You shouldn't talk to a meteorite.

22:39Because now, Mirta knows, there are some groups like this that present themselves as scientific.

22:46These pseudo-skeptics, moreover, are already saying that what they have seen must be the result of some foreign experience regarding

22:55Argentine territory.

22:57Yes, the other day on a television program, where Commander Polanco was, there was a gentleman when they talked

23:02Regarding the blackout at the airport, he said no, that it was a human error by an employee, right?

23:07That he had not acted correctly or as he should have.

23:11The thing is, this good man worked...

23:13It bothered you, I think, didn't it?

23:14No, he obviously worked with fragmented information.

23:17You said, you have a...

23:18In other words, he collected little things that people told him.

23:21Yeah.

23:21And well, actually, what was really annoying was the fact that he denied that the lights were working.

23:29and the instruments at Bariloche airport

23:32with the generator that the airport has for these cases.

23:37I didn't like it because I witnessed the generator operator talking to me when he told me

23:47the novelty of what had happened to him.

23:49And I also heard when the Bariloche control told Captain Polanco that they weren't going to cross the line

23:58of the city where consumption had already been restored

24:01until he finished his maneuver so as not to alter the landing procedure in any way.

24:07That after landing they were going to change.

24:09Uh-huh.

24:10Well, it didn't even make it to land...

24:12What time were you supposed to go down, 8:30, 8:25?

24:15Yes, between 8 and 8:30.

24:17And they came down, they landed...

24:20And I don't have it precise in minutes because it was really a succession of events, of things, and it's like one

24:28it becomes...

24:30With the passage of time, it becomes timeless there, as if it begins to lose its dimension.

24:34I have everything I did clearly recorded, but I can't specify it down to the hour.

24:39Commander, tell me exactly where I'm going from here.

24:42What are you starting to see?

24:43Were you with three people in the cabin?

24:44Yes. I was accompanied by the first officer, Mr. Dortona.

24:51Allende?

24:51Jorge Allende, who is the flight engineer.

24:54And another colleague who was a Boeing 747 first officer, Mr. Benavente.

25:00The four of us started to worry once we began what is called the maneuver to move away from the airport.

25:07because we started to glimpse that white light and we weren't sure if it wasn't another plane.

25:16And we were constantly asking and checking with the tower to see if it wasn't another plane.

25:23Well, at one point even Gaitán's commander intervened here, who was still at a distance that wasn't

25:29the one of being vertically above, let's say, Bariloche.

25:3234 miles.

25:3334 miles.

25:34And that's where I start to worry because that's when I really start to get scared that it could actually be a

25:40plane,

25:40but that it wasn't communicated, but I wasn't seriously considering the possibility of an airplane yet.

25:46Yes, when a minute and a half had passed and I saw that the object was staying put or letting us advance

25:53towards him.

25:54Suspended?

25:55As suspended, yes.

25:57And I started to worry and I started to do something to them with the Boeing, I started to make a lot of light signals.

26:02You guys have very powerful lights, don't you?

26:04Thinking it might be another plane.

26:07In response to that, I can interpret it—I don't know if that's right—but in response to that, immediately to the

26:14The object takes 10 seconds.

26:17Or this saucer, whatever you want to call it, is like it starts to change position and its light intensity decreases

26:24and it remains as a dim, very white light.

26:26Now, about 10 seconds pass and we begin to turn back to what we call the approach.

26:35end,

26:36where we already coupled with precision elements to land the barrioche.

26:41At the precise moment we stabilized, the aircraft directly ahead was already 13 miles away.

26:48from the airport,

26:50The first officer tells me, look at this.

26:54I was fully immersed in the flight, I was working on autopilot.

26:59Let me explain, excuse me for interrupting, what a Boeing 727 is, which is enormous, by the way.

27:05It's an 88-ton plane.

27:07Enormous.

27:08And how long is it?

27:10It's over 50 meters long, almost.

27:13Oh my, how awful.

27:14That information is important for what we're going to ask next.

27:16With 102 people on board, isn't that right?

27:18We're talking about a large aircraft, a respectable one.

27:24So I...

27:25He tells him, look at this, let's get back to it, his partner tells him.

27:28He tells her, look at this.

27:29And I, without taking primary care away from what we were doing, which was the flight,

27:37I look to the right, I look again at the instruments,

27:42And I looked again because I really couldn't believe it.

27:46At that precise moment, the pilot who is here gets up, comes closer, and looks.

27:53And well...

27:54And what do they see?

27:55We started saying things that can't be repeated.

27:58Irreproducibles.

27:59"That's outrageous," they said.

28:01How terrible those who see.

28:03So I tell him, ask the tower, and the co-pilot asks the tower,

28:12"We have a traffic jam on the right," he tells her.

28:14We say transit as if it were an airplane.

28:16I find the terminology used by pilots amusing, don't you? Aeronautical terminology, aviation terminology.

28:21And the tower would also be puzzled, because, it says, we have no knowledge of anything.

28:27But they saw it.

28:28Then they stated that they saw some light approaching parallel to us.

28:35The problem is that with the number of lights the plane has,

28:38Only those who are used to seeing it can discern if there is another light besides what are the lights.

28:43regular passengers on the plane.

28:44Weren't you going to turn off the plane's lights at any point?

28:47No, no, no. At that moment, what I started to do, and we were constantly looking, what we observed was that...

28:54Why was he doing it on his right? Was it really his right?

28:56It was my right, of course.

28:57I was accompanying you.

28:59He started the descent maneuver with us, he was accompanying us.

29:02I was going down with you.

29:03Exact.

29:04He was with us. He made himself known, because I say that in some way,

29:08By standing at a distance of 40, 50 meters as he was, he was showing himself.

29:14And it didn't happen at any point, and this is important to me,

29:17because I also, in some way, believe I felt that way,

29:21I never got the feeling that I could put my aircraft at risk.

29:25Oh, no?

29:25My passengers, no, not at all.

29:26Did he ever doubt?

29:27Not at all.

29:28But I'm going to insist on what you just said.

29:30You're saying the object was 40, 50 meters from your plane.

29:36In other words, it's a very close observation.

29:38From the cabin, right?

29:38From the cabin.

29:39That there has been another case of an aviator who has been so close to an object of this type.

29:44Now, excuse me, the question I'm about to ask must be stupid.

29:47But inside, you couldn't see anything at all?

29:50No.

29:50Within that...

29:51Are you referring to this object?

29:52Yes, that object.

29:53Nothing could be seen.

29:54The shapes could be clearly seen, and what the lady and gentleman were saying here,

29:58that's what caught my attention so powerfully,

30:01It was its defined shape and almost at the ends, those bright green lights,

30:08and the orange light, which was the amber light that was in the center,

30:12which prevented me from determining if the object above was shaped like a...

30:17Let's say, it's commonly called an inverted plate.

30:19Yes, yes.

30:19Because it was very intense, and it diminished and faded, diminished and faded.

30:23Now, if someone told me it was a plane with two green lights,

30:28I say, well, it's exactly that, I mean, I had no doubt about what I was visualizing.

30:34There was no visual effect, nor could it have been produced by me, we were seeing it.

30:38But it looked like an airplane.

30:40No, it didn't look like a plane.

30:41Why didn't it look like an airplane?

30:41Because it had an elongated shape, it was an inverted plate.

30:44It didn't have wings, for example, it didn't have wings.

30:47Can it be called an upside-down plate or a cigar?

30:49No, no, no, no, I don't know, I don't know, because what I see is more of a compact shadow shape,

30:55with those lights and constantly accompanying...

30:59I'm interrupting you again, you just said, elongated or like a cigar, you said.

31:04No, ending in a point like that, as if it were...

31:06How long have you been flying, Commander?

31:08I started flying when I was 16, 25 years ago.

31:1225 years of flying.

31:14Do you never have an experience like this?

31:16No, no, my love.

31:18It didn't scare him, it didn't scare him.

31:20Can you sleep? Do you sleep well at night?

31:21Yeah.

31:22Yeah.

31:23It didn't scare him.

31:24What size do you think that hole was?

31:26That was the technical part, I'm going to...

31:27But it's important to know more or less what...

31:30It bombards me, every time I'm on the show the question bombards me.

31:33But this is a wonderful opportunity I have, and I'm not going to waste it.

31:37I love myself, because this is opportune, because I didn't know the lady, I met her a few moments ago here.

31:43Yes, I was in the middle when the presentations were made, there is no faith.

31:45No, no, they just arrived, there's no faith either.

31:47She was talking about something that is very important to me.

31:50I don't know if it was after everything we went through, but on the return flight, together

31:56with my colleagues,

31:58We too were experiencing a kind of tranquility.

32:02Let's see, let's see, commander.

32:07This is basic, it's what's always done, of course.

32:10This is what it looked like, seen from the side, this was its shape.

32:15On camera, Mr. Director.

32:16And the lights would be located here, at each end, and you can't see this well up here.

32:23There was always an intense light that diminished, but with great intensity.

32:27So it didn't allow you to see if this was a higher or lower belly.

32:32Either way, you were seeing it from the side.

32:34I don't know if it has windows or anything.

32:36If I place this plate, in this position, with light, next to the airplane window, it represents that.

32:45Exactly.

32:46In other words, removing it this way, because a large light would go here, which is what...

32:51The famous flying saucers have always been referred to as flying saucers.

32:55Thank you so much.

32:55Very timely, thank you very much.

32:57What size do you think it was?

32:59It was very close.

33:00The size wasn't small.

33:02Judging by the size it occupied in the window, it would have been no less than 30 meters in diameter.

33:08What size?

33:09Yes, 30 meters.

33:10It's big!

33:10Yes, yes, commander.

33:12And when they get off, is there anyone else, any passengers?

33:14Does nobody ask him anything?

33:16Nobody?

33:16No, I believe, I repeat, people, the regular passenger, when we do

33:24That whole escape maneuver, that's perhaps when people started to worry because they knew that

33:29There were power outages and you might be wondering what's going on, what we're going to do.

33:35So, as soon as we regained control and landed again, I didn't open the cockpit door,

33:44I stay there; the passengers get off quickly as usual.

33:51And then the people from the airport come, very excited, very excited, and ask me for permission

34:01To enter the cabin, he says to me, commander, did you see what I saw?

34:06I mean, look, here we are processing everything that we really had to live through.

34:09Who is asking him that?

34:11No, not the name, there's no need to say it, but what position does he hold?

34:14He was in charge of the airport headquarters, we call him, Major Oviedo, Major Oviedo.

34:18Oh, really? It's been in the newspapers, yes, that too.

34:21Air Force Major?

34:22Yes, yes, from the Air Force.

34:24And he was very excited, because he experienced it firsthand.

34:28Yes, yes, yes.

34:28Apart from the understandable concern of not knowing what it was and having an incident at the airfield

34:33It's not pleasant at all.

34:34Of course, it's not pleasant, is it?

34:35But I read some newspapers that said the passengers sometimes became extremely alarmed.

34:41Some even held hands and prayed, right?

34:44Because, listen to me, you have to be up there, you, commander, you're used to it,

34:48Anyway, regarding the ticket, well, we arrived at eight thirty.

34:52And at nine thirty they're still going around in circles with an airport where a blackout is going to happen.

34:56No, the passage did not suffer what is called any kind of worry.

35:02After you perform a maneuver like the one I had to do,

35:07Among each passenger there is one who crosses himself, there is one who holds hands,

35:11Well, that's typical of...

35:15It's common in the passage.

35:17But you had to make a sudden maneuver at some point.

35:19It's not abrupt, because someone who isn't in this profession misunderstands what a maneuver is.

35:25It's more of a maneuver, like a takeoff.

35:28The aircraft's attitude is changed, meaning...

35:30Is Panta going up again?

35:31Exact.

35:32Ah, of course.

35:32But how many meters above the ground did you get when you started climbing?

35:37It was a relative distance, because while we are descending,

35:41The road also descends towards the airport.

35:43We were actually at...

35:45of what would be called the header's touch point,

35:49We would be at about 5,000 feet, about 1,500 meters.

35:53He was still tall.

35:54And then we had to climb back up to the...

35:57And when does the phenomenon, the dish, disappear? When does it disappear?

36:01Well, we'll see it when we get the chance.

36:03Okay, after the break. They're asking me for a break.

36:05But according to the Clarín newspaper, which we trust completely,

36:12Commander Polanco says upon landing...

36:15Hold on with the music, Mr. Director.

36:17Upon landing, I had to wait 5 minutes in the cabin.

36:20because his heart was in his mouth.

36:24We'll be right back, everyone. Thank you very much.

36:26We're back.

36:26I have to put him back in his place.

36:38Oh, how impressive.

36:39You were saying, I was saying, how scary to come across this, right?

36:43Because it's a shock, without a doubt.

36:46It's a very big psychological impact.

36:47What impressed me most was what you told me there in the bar.

36:49Very big.

36:49When I said it, I didn't believe it.

36:50And you took me by the arm like this, you said, believe it, believe it.

36:54And did you believe that before?

36:55Did they used to believe in unidentified flying objects?

36:59No, obviously I wasn't prepared for this event.

37:07And I had, I accepted that this possibility existed.

37:11Ah, I accepted it.

37:14But, well, obviously from this, to paraphrase what I've been saying for quite some time,

37:24I cannot be so selfish as to think that we are the only ones who have the right to life.

37:28Now, doesn't it surprise you that the Air Force, which is the entity that deals with all this?

37:32Has the Air Force made any statement?

37:35Did they take your statement or not?

37:36No, no, no.

37:37But they were forbidden, weren't they?

37:38Not you.

37:39No, I am aware that the people at the airport, at the Air Force base,...

37:45Did they ask them not to drop the subject?

37:47Yes, they were asked to make a statement.

37:48Well, but the same Clarín newspaper that you just mentioned, yesterday's edition,

37:53It reports that the Air Force has said it will not investigate the matter,

37:59that they have nothing to investigate and that it is not their responsibility.

38:02And I get a little confused because if an object moves in the Earth's atmosphere

38:09and that it flies over national airspace should not be investigated by the Argentine Air Force,

38:15I actually short-circuited.

38:16I don't know who will have to investigate it.

38:18Except for private investigators with the limited resources we have, of course.

38:22And all the sidewalks, and why is it always hidden?

38:24In the United States too.

38:26Why do they always want to hide?

38:27I have my hypothesis.

38:29I have my hypothesis.

38:30All of this is classified information.

38:34Because, of course, we're talking about such a different technology,

38:39so superior to ours,

38:41whoever is able to build such a device first

38:45It breaks everything related to media,

38:49Rockets, airplanes, everything becomes obsolete.

38:53Now, that fact you just mentioned, Mirka,

38:56that at least the United States is dealing with this,

39:01is officially in charge,

39:02who spends a lot of money and hides it,

39:05I can prove it to you with documentation right now.

39:10Not because it's published in my book

39:12UFO Astronauts Document, no.

39:13I can show you documents.

39:16No, no, no, no, because I know that some criticism will follow.

39:22or you can say, and what you wrote.

39:24No, I want to show him.

39:26The letter from the United States Department of Defense...

39:32Are you going to read me that entire letter?

39:33No, I'm not going to read it.

39:34The intelligence agency, the letter addressed to me,

39:38to make it clear that the information is mine

39:39and it's top quality,

39:41with the seals of the Department of Defense,

39:44with the signature of the area head.

39:48And I've brought some information about what he does.

39:52This is classified information.

39:55But a couple of years ago, in the United States,

39:58There is a law called the free information law.

40:02So, if you specifically ask the indicated organization

40:06He sends what he needs.

40:08Here I have, for example,

40:11Department of Defense,

40:12Intelligence,

40:14the signatures of the authorities,

40:17says,

40:18country, nationalist China,

40:21subject of the memo,

40:24Unidentified flying object over Taiwan.

40:28Yeah.

40:28Date, August 26, 1966.

40:32But I'm interested in the one here.

40:34Garibaldi's.

40:35And he says, wait a second,

40:36There's a reason for saying it.

40:38I like the one here,

40:39the one at home.

40:40I like the place.

40:41He says that the control of the tower,

40:44from the Kung Fuam air base,

40:48The observers have been,

40:50both the Chinese,

40:53like the Chinese staff,

40:54as an American.

40:55And they say something that I'm going to like: that later Commander Gatán will tell what he saw.

41:01what the spotlight did,

41:03because it says that the object seen by the airport tower staff,

41:09It was a red object

41:12that at a certain point

41:16it shoots out vertically

41:19at an unknown speed

41:21and disappears instantly.

41:23This happens more or less to the walls.

41:25Thank you very much, Dr. Lanzera.

41:27Yes, that's when...

41:28It is concrete.

41:29Yes, but it's documentation...

41:31See if it is.

41:31When Captain Blanco is in full landing final approach,

41:34Well, he has the object next to him,

41:36disappears,

41:37The airport generator goes out of service,

41:39Bariloche,

41:40and he has to make an escape,

41:43which is also a publicized maneuver.

41:45At that moment,

41:46We are now close to the vertical,

41:50We had requested to follow a different procedure than the one published,

41:54which was to intercept the ILS trajectory directly

41:56after the airlines landed,

41:59And when this happens,

42:02the generator goes out of service and the lights go out,

42:05Bariloche orders the airlines to make the escape,

42:08and to place us 11,000 feet above Bariloche.

42:15While Polanco is performing,

42:17It has already reached 10,000 feet,

42:19is making a turn,

42:21let's say,

42:21approximately on Huemul Island,

42:24in that position,

42:258 miles from Bariloche airport,

42:29We have already reached the airport's vertical position,

42:32at an altitude of 3,300 meters,

42:37that is to say,

42:37not on the floor,

42:38but it is measured that way over the sea.

42:41Then,

42:44my co-pilot,

42:45who was the main commander of Cipuzac,

42:47He begins to observe a light.

42:49that does not exceed,

42:50below and to the right,

42:53me too,

42:53when he tells me,

42:55I also lean in to look at him.

42:57In an amber light,

42:59as if there were a yellow behind a tulip,

43:02something like that,

43:04which increased and decreased in intensity,

43:06but it moved horizontally

43:08at a very high speed.

43:10High speed.

43:11Extremely fast.

43:12We were going to,

43:14between 150 and 160 knots in that maneuver,

43:18that is to say,

43:18around 260,

43:20270 kilometers per hour,

43:22And it happened to us,

43:23let's say,

43:24I estimate,

43:25double,

43:26or a little more,

43:27of our speed.

43:27I'm going to ask you a question,

43:28Would the movement be silent?

43:31Or noisy?

43:31It's impossible to know.

43:32it isn't true?

43:33It's impossible to know for sure right now.

43:34It's impossible.

43:35It would be interesting to know,

43:36No?

43:36If it made noise.

43:37Apart from the noise...

43:38But more than anything, it's the flashes of light,

43:40No?

43:40Clear.

43:40But,

43:41there is...

43:42No, sir,

43:43The couple says you didn't hear anything.

43:46No no.

43:47You saw him pass by in absolute silence.

43:48No, no, no.

43:49No airplane noise.

43:50No, no, no.

43:51No turbine noise.

43:52No, no, it doesn't make any noise.

43:53Everything was silent.

43:55But the lights were there.

43:57Yeah,

43:57besides,

43:57As the commander says,

44:00when we spotted,

44:02let's say,

44:03that very bright light,

44:04that object,

44:06It was static.

44:08Ah,

44:08He was suspended.

44:09He was still.

44:10It was static at the moment we saw it.

44:12Second,

44:13more or less.

44:13Second.

44:13Ah, second.

44:14Don't worry.

44:14And it moved so fast

44:16that we were able to see.

44:20How impressive.

44:20We got off...

44:21He makes the movement,

44:23but the rest cannot be infinite.

44:25And how does he escape?

44:25Who sees him leave?

44:26Who sees it?

44:27You see it, don't you?

44:27Clear,

44:28Yeah,

44:28extremely high speed over the lake,

44:30But it's a tiny fraction of time.

44:32Yes, yes.

44:33And without even slowing down

44:35or to appreciate a parable,

44:38nothing,

44:39ascends thus,

44:3990 degrees,

44:41up.

44:42Well,

44:42up to that point,

44:43one might say,

44:44Well,

44:44It is an aircraft,

44:45a fighter jet or something like that

44:47which he performed,

44:49He installed afterburner,

44:50But nothing could be seen.

44:52It wouldn't be,

44:53It would still be questionable

44:54Maybe define it

44:56as an object

44:56of that nature.

44:59But what really

45:00It caught our attention

45:01It's when it reaches

45:02the airline's altitude,

45:03that is to say,

45:03the airline's trajectory,

45:05There was a small gauze of clouds.

45:07Yeah.

45:08Very weak.

45:09There was a small reflection

45:11of the city

45:11that is transmitted

45:13like orange,

45:15and it looked good

45:16the black hole

45:17that I tell him

45:18to the lake.

45:19From the lake,

45:19to Nahuel Huatí.

45:19It looks black,

45:20black, black.

45:20Uh-huh.

45:21Was it a dark night?

45:22Or rather...?

45:22Quite dark

45:23because there was no moon.

45:24There was no moon.

45:25No,

45:25quite dark.

45:26And well,

45:27at that speed

45:28that if we calculate

45:30that ascended

45:31from the 600s

45:32or 500 meters

45:34that was

45:34on the surface

45:35until reaching

45:36airline level

45:37that was

45:39at 3,000 meters,

45:40Yeah.

45:40in a second

45:42or something less

45:43of a second

45:43We're talking

45:44match 3,

45:45practically

45:46thrice

45:47the speed of sound.

45:48I wouldn't go in.

45:49to measure it,

45:49but I say

45:51that the displacements

45:51that has

45:52They go against the laws of nature.

45:53that we know.

45:54Yes, of course.

45:54It goes against the laws of nature.

45:56Nobody can sell us out

45:57that it's a device

45:58made on the earth.

45:59Clear.

45:59Because there is nothing.

46:00that it moves

46:01at 90 degrees

46:02without doing

46:02a trajectory

46:04as she defined it

46:05Here's the commander.

46:06And where does it disappear to?

46:08Towards anguish?

46:08Did you tell me?

46:09No, it stayed parked.

46:09No, but when he leaves.

46:11Clear,

46:11It's in the direction of

46:12approximate

46:13towards anguish.

46:13I waited for him.

46:14At high speed

46:16rises to 90 degrees

46:18but instantly

46:19it stops

46:20in the cloud gauze.

46:21Yes, yes, yes.

46:21That I couldn't do that

46:22no one I know

46:24at least.

46:24That's the phenomenon

46:25That's why I was reading to him

46:26This coincides

46:28with which the military personnel

46:31same sale.

46:32And he remains...

46:35We used to call him

46:36there at the tower.

46:36Now you're shocked,

46:37No?

46:37Excuse me, I'm sorry.

46:39Was he shocked?

46:40Were you impressed?

46:41It says here that I had

46:42a heart in the mouth.

46:43No, I didn't say that.

46:44at no time.

46:45But I said that

46:47I really stayed

46:48reflecting

46:48about what I had to live through.

46:50And the flight attendants?

46:51Did you see it?

46:51No, because they are seated

46:53In a place

46:53where they cannot observe

46:55none of this

46:55on the plane.

46:56Perhaps they don't even have them.

46:58windows,

46:59unless they have sat down

47:00in one of the seats

47:01that it has.

47:02Yes, yes.

47:02But I repeat,

47:03because of the brightness

47:04that the cabin has

47:05It's very difficult.

47:06outwards

47:06for them to visualize.

47:07And what explanations do you have?

47:09He gave the passage

47:10because they didn't go down?

47:12What did I tell them?

47:12The commander always...

47:13There was time at that moment.

47:14I explained it to them

47:14when we had

47:15the first power outage

47:16in the city

47:16that we remained orbiting.

47:18Yeah.

47:18And then I informed them

47:20that we were going to land

47:21when it is restored

47:22energy

47:23at the airport

47:24with its own generator.

47:25But then

47:26everything else...

47:28And you never thought

47:29that light

47:30Could they dress him?

47:31No.

47:31No?

47:32Despite...

47:33I thought about it,

47:35but he asked

47:36let the tower confirm it for me,

47:37But the light never...

47:38Even though he was leaving

47:39being intense,

47:40it gave the impression

47:41initially

47:42as if it could be

47:44static,

47:44but that it was nearby,

47:46but it didn't work out for us

47:47to cause

47:48no type

47:48of damage

47:50or flight collision.

47:50Now it is placed afterwards

47:51in the right sector,

47:52No?

47:52From the ship.

47:53Exact.

47:53When we finished

47:54the trip,

47:55That's where it really happens

47:57It leaves us shocked.

47:58because...

47:59And you,

48:00the Cabrals,

48:01What are they doing?

48:01Do they tell them later?

48:02to your friends?

48:03What is its structure?

48:04Your family?

48:05Do they have children?

48:06Yeah,

48:06We have three children.

48:07Three children?

48:08Do they have grandchildren?

48:09Three sons,

48:09grandchildren,

48:10We have three grandchildren.

48:11And when they tell them

48:12What do they tell them?

48:12Oh!

48:14This is a story

48:15or do they really believe them.

48:16No,

48:16They don't believe them.

48:17No,

48:17We don't count right away.

48:19Ah,

48:19Didn't they tell anyone right away?

48:20No,

48:20not because my husband

48:23that night

48:23He couldn't sleep

48:24because he was shocked

48:25equal.

48:26Clear.

48:27and went to bed

48:29went to bed

48:30about one and a half

48:31We went to put him to bed.

48:32and he tells me

48:32the next day

48:33in the morning

48:33I couldn't sleep

48:34last night

48:35She closed her eyes

48:36and saw

48:36the form.

48:38The shape.

48:39It stays in your mind

48:40That image remains.

48:42So you

48:42They don't report

48:43immediately to no one.

48:44No,

48:45not because we

48:45for us

48:46It was very strange.

48:47And it wasn't a flying saucer.

48:49as you say

48:50who doesn't believe it

48:52and not,

48:53No,

48:53We're not leaving right away.

48:54And the next day

48:55How do you get your information?

48:57Because this takes

48:58public status

48:58Right away, right?

48:59Yeah,

48:59the next day

49:00Well,

49:01I was commenting

49:02on an FM

49:03and he calls him

49:04he says

49:05I'm going to call him

49:06because as we saw

49:07us

49:08and at night

49:09I swear

49:10he told me

49:10that I'm still thinking

49:12in that light

49:13and on the plane

49:13That's the light it has

49:14and all

49:15That was it.

49:16You were talking

49:17from the plane with the lights

49:18clear

49:18But it wasn't a plane.

49:19because

49:19It wasn't obvious

49:21was this dish

49:22that we brought here

49:23no one will investigate

49:24the rare phenomenon

49:25from Bariloche

49:26This came out

49:27in yesterday's Clarín

49:28the strange phenomenon

49:29which complicated

49:30last Monday

49:31the landing

49:31from an airplane

49:32in Bariloche

49:32It is not being

49:34officially investigated

49:35by the Air Force

49:36quotation marks

49:37It's not an issue

49:38that concerns us

49:39us

49:39they explained to Clarín

49:41in the press office

49:42of that force

49:42the intense light

49:44of origin

49:46unidentified

49:46which followed

49:47to the airline plane

49:48for 15 minutes

49:49She is not being investigated either.

49:50by the leadership

49:51from the airport

49:52the press officer

49:53of airlines

49:54he assured

49:54that the company

49:55submitted a report

49:56written

49:57to the Air Force

49:58detailing

49:59what he saw

49:59the pilot

49:59Jorge Polanco

50:00but still

50:01We received no answers.

50:02It's not competition

50:04our

50:04investigate

50:04What happened?

50:05This came out

50:06in the Clarín newspaper

50:07from yesterday

50:07It's strange.

50:08that no investigation be conducted

50:10That's what they say

50:11We'll have to see.

50:11what happens

50:12from there in

50:14And what will it be for?

50:16because he wants

50:16a cut

50:17needs

50:17And what a burden!

50:17I didn't want to go out

50:18long

50:18straight ahead

50:19and then disappear

50:20like the UFO

50:22UFO images

50:23followed by the association

50:24from the sky

50:25to the earth

50:25we're going to spend

50:26immediately afterwards

50:27of this cut

50:28We must respect the road closures

50:29We'll be right back, folks.

50:30one dish at a time

50:31and we return

50:32applause

50:33applause

50:35applause

50:36applause

50:37applause

Incidente OVNI Bariloche - Almorzando con Mirtha Legrand (Canal 9, 04/08/1995)

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