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00:00Yeah, you're diamonds, dream chasers, we won't wait
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00:30Be good, be very good
00:33I am trying, I don't know, I don't know
00:38But what I do know is I have a guest on the show
00:41And that is the QR code for the book
00:43Let me tell you something, this book, it hit me
00:46When I saw this book, it hit me
00:48And I want to thank my guest, Johnny Baker, for being on the show
00:50But let me tell you, Johnny, before anything
00:54Let me get you to run down
00:56Let me get you to run down, you ready for this?
00:59Okay
00:59Now Johnny, Johnny, you hit me, you hit me, you hit me good
01:03Because I don't go to church anymore
01:04The reason I go, and now most people are probably gonna criticize me
01:08I do study, I do study my Bible
01:10I'm, you know, devout and all that good stuff
01:13You know, you'll never see me with my boobies out
01:15That's not gonna happen
01:16But let me tell you what happened
01:19I left a particular congregation
01:23And it was a while before
01:27You know, I kind of inquired with a friend of mine
01:29Hey, so how's everybody doing over there?
01:31I'm like, oh girl, you don't know what happened
01:33I said, what happened?
01:34Well, the pastor's wife caught up with a girl
01:36In their own bedroom, in their own bed, in their house
01:39And it was the girl that they had helped
01:41And all this stuff
01:42And I was like, oh no!
01:45And they divorced
01:46And the custody battles
01:49And all this stuff
01:49And it was
01:50I was like, that's a mess
01:52And when you
01:53When you came on
01:54This show today
01:56Talking about sex in the church
01:58Darling
01:58Darling
02:00That just hit it home for me
02:02I want to welcome you, Johnny
02:03To the show
02:04Thank you so much for joining us
02:05Thank you for having me
02:07Now, I have to ask you
02:08I did not experience this firsthand
02:10This was stories
02:11That came back to me
02:13From various members of the congregation
02:15And they're all the same story
02:18All the same story
02:19So, obviously, it checks out
02:20Nobody told me
02:21A penny was a penny
02:23And then by the time
02:24I got to the end of the person
02:25It was ten cents
02:26No, it was the same
02:27So, I want to find out from you
02:30What and why did you write this book?
02:35Kind of like you said
02:36I also had a
02:37A tragedy
02:39In my life
02:41In the church
02:43Many pastors are bleeding
02:47But they're bleeding
02:48I went through this time period
02:50Where
02:50I was the only one
02:53Didn't know
02:54Something was going on
02:55In my own church
02:56Come on
02:57I had no idea either
02:59Oh, come on now
03:00Yeah
03:01And it affected me
03:02Wow
03:03So, when God told me
03:04To write this book
03:05It was kind of like
03:06A healing process for me
03:07As well
03:07But there is hurt in the church
03:10And you haven't been hurt
03:11Until you've been hurt
03:12In the church
03:13Yeah
03:13By those that are close to you
03:15Those that you trust
03:16And you love
03:17And you think that
03:19They are looking for your best
03:20But in the end
03:23A lot of times
03:23I mean, it's just life
03:26Yeah
03:27Yeah
03:28Now, I mean
03:29I understand that
03:30Infidelity happens
03:31Yeah
03:32I got it
03:32It does
03:33I mean, you know
03:34We're not
03:34I'm not criticizing the person
03:36For doing what they did
03:38Because it does happen
03:38It's we're human
03:39We all falter
03:40We all make mistakes
03:41Right?
03:42Yes
03:42But the cover up
03:43The cover up
03:45The lies
03:46That's where
03:47I kind of draw the line
03:49With being a pastor
03:50In the church
03:50And actually having
03:52A congregation
03:54Believe
03:54That you are
03:56Who you say you are
03:57When you aren't
03:58Yes
03:59Let's go back in time
04:01A little bit
04:01Before you wrote this book
04:02Were you happy
04:04At your congregation?
04:05Yes, I was happy
04:06Very happy
04:07With my congregation
04:08Everything was going smooth
04:09I thought
04:11Everything was going
04:11You know, great
04:12And next thing I know
04:15It's like a bombshell
04:16Mm
04:17Mm
04:18Mm
04:19Now
04:20The bombshell
04:21I want to talk about that
04:23Real quick
04:23Because I know
04:24The result is the book
04:25But the bombshell
04:27What did that do to your
04:28Did it shake your faith?
04:30Because a lot of people
04:31Don't realize that
04:32You know, of course
04:33We're all human
04:34We all make mistakes
04:34Even the pastor
04:35Okay
04:36But did it shake your faith?
04:38Did it shake your family's faith?
04:40What did it do
04:41As a result of
04:43The infidelity?
04:45Well, it
04:45It really shook
04:47It didn't shake my faith
04:49Because my faith
04:50Was trusting Jesus
04:51I was like, Lord
04:52But why
04:52It happened to me
04:53Why?
04:54Why?
04:55My church
04:55Why, you know
04:56Why?
04:57And
04:58And
05:00I mean
05:00I saw the red flags
05:02But
05:03Sometimes you ignore that
05:06And you just put it off
05:07You put it off
05:08And you're like
05:09And the Lord's showing you
05:10The whole time
05:11And you're like
05:11Okay, Lord
05:12No, that can't be true
05:13No, Lord
05:14It's not true
05:15And then
05:16Once it really hits
05:18At home
05:18And you find out that
05:19It's true
05:20Then that's when you
05:22Really, you know
05:23You're just
05:24You're out of it
05:24Then
05:24You're out of it
05:26I mean
05:27It's like
05:27You have to say
05:29Am I dreaming?
05:32Or is this real?
05:33Am I living this out
05:37Or what's going on?
05:38It's like
05:38Your whole life
05:39Is just
05:40Dumped
05:42I mean
05:42You're just
05:43Dumped
05:43You don't know
05:43Where to go from there
05:44Wow
05:45So how do you think
05:47That the current
05:47Understanding of sex
05:48In the church
05:49Contrasts with the reality
05:51Of sexual behavior
05:53In the world today
05:54As I was saying
05:58Sexual behavior
05:59In the world
06:00It first starts
06:01In the church
06:02The church has
06:03The guidelines
06:04Jesus drew
06:05The guidelines
06:05Thousands
06:07Of thousand years ago
06:08And he knew
06:08You know
06:09That men were
06:10That's why
06:11If you look at
06:12A woman in lust
06:13You start
06:14Commending
06:14Those in your heart
06:15And then you have
06:17The people on the job
06:18And the book
06:20Deals with sex
06:20In the church
06:21But also
06:21In the world
06:22Like you said
06:23The workplace
06:23Where you know
06:25After you're seeing
06:26Somebody every day
06:27And then you start
06:28Getting comfortable
06:29With each other
06:29Next thing you know
06:31Y'all going out
06:32To dinner
06:33Next thing you know
06:33You're going out
06:34To other places
06:35And next thing you know
06:37There's a relationship
06:37Yeah
06:39Because that's
06:40A buddy
06:40Buddy
06:41Feel good
06:41I'm better
06:42Than you know
06:43I can
06:44You know
06:45This is
06:45Person
06:46I'm having more fun
06:47With this person
06:47Than I am
06:47My own mate
06:48All that new stuff
06:50That new stuff
06:51That new stuff
06:52That's that new stuff
06:53Right there
06:54That's that new stuff
06:55And he said
06:56You have to keep
06:56A fire in your marriage
06:57And you keep
06:58A fire in your marriage
06:59But
06:59Like I said
07:00Temptation is out there
07:01That's a temptation
07:02And that's what
07:05A lot of pastors
07:05Deal with
07:06Daily
07:07I was just
07:07The thing with
07:08Noel Jones
07:08And this morning
07:10And it blew me
07:11When he says
07:12That
07:12The women
07:13Were weeping
07:14And crying
07:14At his wedding
07:15Because
07:17And one lady
07:18Said she couldn't
07:18Sit on the front row
07:19Because women
07:20Sit on the front row
07:21Without their
07:23Undergorments
07:23Yeah they do
07:24Yeah
07:25Yeah that's why
07:26I'm in the back
07:27Yeah
07:28That's why
07:29I sat in the back
07:30And that's
07:31That happens
07:32In the church
07:33And we have
07:33That
07:34That
07:35The church
07:36Is not a perfect
07:36Place
07:37Because we're all
07:37We all
07:38We all
07:39Imperfect
07:40We all had
07:40Those lies
07:41Before we got
07:41In the church
07:42But the thing
07:44Is that once
07:44You get delivered
07:45You know
07:47You should be
07:48Different
07:48It should be
07:49Different
07:49You know
07:50You should
07:51Make your
07:52Your every move
07:54To
07:54Not fall
07:56In that same
07:56Category
07:57That same stuff
07:58That you
07:58Fall back in
07:59Your own
07:59Miss used to be
08:01In other words
08:01Yeah
08:02You know
08:03There's so much
08:04Misunderstanding
08:05About the church
08:06But the
08:07The basic principle
08:08Is yeah
08:08If you see a woman
08:09And you're married
08:10You are lusting
08:11After you have
08:13Committed adultery
08:14Already in your heart
08:15And it's hard
08:17Because you have
08:18These women
08:19That aren't
08:20Really following
08:21Jesus
08:23Or in
08:24The Messianic
08:25Yeshua
08:25Yeshua
08:26But they're
08:28Following
08:29The cute
08:30Pastor
08:31The guy
08:31Look so good
08:32And he's got
08:33Power
08:33You know
08:34And look at him
08:35People listen
08:36To him
08:37And they
08:38Go after
08:39Their own lust
08:39It's hard
08:41To
08:42I guess
08:43Maybe for a pastor
08:45And correct me
08:46If I'm wrong
08:47This is more of a question
08:48It is a statement
08:49And maybe I should
08:51Phrase it that way
08:52Is it hard
08:54For a pastor
08:55Or someone
08:57I mean
08:57Just think of yourself
08:58Think of someone
08:59To correct
09:00On the spot
09:01The behavior
09:02Of some women
09:04If that were
09:05To happen
09:06What would happen
09:08With the church
09:09What do you think
09:10You can correct
09:12Behavior
09:14And a lot of times
09:16That's why
09:17So they have
09:18The first ladies
09:18The wives
09:20Of brown
09:21Because they
09:22Correct a lot
09:22Of the behavior
09:23And they keep
09:25A lot off
09:26Of my
09:26And my dad
09:27Told me
09:27Before I said
09:28Told my
09:29Ex-wife
09:30That
09:31You stay around
09:32Stay close
09:33To him
09:33Then you keep
09:35The
09:35You keep
09:36The
09:36What do you call it
09:38He called it
09:39Something else
09:39But you keep
09:40The women off
09:40Of you
09:41Basically what he
09:41Was saying
09:42Yeah
09:42That their
09:44Presence
09:44Makes a difference
09:45That she's
09:47They're too close
09:48To where you
09:48Can't get
09:49You know
09:49And but then
09:50I mean
09:51They're gonna try
09:52They don't care
09:53They will
09:54They will
09:55Like you were
09:56Saying they don't
09:56Care
09:56Yeah I've seen it
09:58I'm actually
09:59An ordained pastor
10:00And I had one lady
10:01Come up to me
10:02Talking about
10:02I know you want
10:03My husband
10:03I was like
10:04What
10:04I do not
10:08Want your husband
10:09I have a husband
10:09He's standing next
10:10To me
10:11You see my husband
10:11He was always
10:13With me
10:14My husband
10:14Was always with me
10:15There was no
10:15I've been with my
10:16Husband since I was
10:1717 years old
10:18I've seen
10:19I've been attacked
10:20Because women
10:22Think I want
10:23Their man
10:23I don't want
10:24Your man
10:24I don't want
10:26Your man
10:26I got enough
10:27Man right here
10:28To deal with
10:28Don't want
10:29A second one
10:30You know
10:31It's ridiculous
10:33And sometimes
10:34The problem is
10:35That their insecurity
10:36Yeah
10:37And you might
10:39Not believe this
10:39But one time
10:40My dad told me
10:41Because he was a
10:42Pastor a long time
10:43A man
10:44He said
10:44A lot of times
10:46The women
10:47Choose
10:47The woman
10:49For the pastor
10:52I'm like
10:52What
10:52What
10:53Well
10:54I see the way
10:55Sister son
10:55So is looking
10:56At you
10:56She just get
10:57Her eyes
10:58Look at you
10:58All the time
10:59And the guy
11:00Don't even know
11:00If he's loose
11:01Then he'll take
11:02All those cues
11:02And go with it
11:03That's crazy
11:06That is crazy
11:08That is absolutely
11:09Crazy
11:10But just like
11:10They were coming
11:11At you
11:11Then now
11:12It's like
11:13Then your husband
11:16Has an eye
11:17For you
11:18My husband
11:18Has an eye
11:19For you
11:19Basically
11:20That's what
11:20Happened
11:21And even
11:22In my book
11:23I talk about
11:23David
11:24David
11:24Looked too
11:25Long
11:25That look
11:26You don't see
11:27The look
11:28It's the look
11:29You know
11:30It's the look
11:30That we deal
11:31With
11:31Look
11:32And that
11:33They give you
11:33All kinds
11:34Of looks
11:34And all kinds
11:35Of you know
11:36Eyes and batting
11:38And everything
11:38And all these things
11:39You just have to
11:40Be strong
11:40And ignore
11:42Maybe to ignore
11:43Those
11:43The temptations
11:45I think it's
11:46The new stuff
11:47It's the new
11:48Journey
11:48It's that
11:49Newness
11:49That
11:50That newlywed
11:52Period
11:53Between a relationship
11:54That really gets
11:55A person
11:55And all of a sudden
11:56When they get past
11:57That they realize
11:57What they've done
11:58You know
12:00I
12:00Preferably don't like
12:02The newlywed period
12:03So I'd rather
12:04Not get involved
12:05That's the six months
12:07Of eating them up
12:08And the six months
12:08You wish you didn't
12:09I don't like it
12:11They don't like it
12:12I don't like that period
12:13I don't like the newness
12:14Of things
12:15I think people
12:16Are deceptive
12:16I think people
12:17Lie to
12:18To make you believe
12:19What they want you
12:20To believe about them
12:21And so
12:21I was never tempted
12:23With that
12:23What can parents do
12:26Because I do believe
12:27It starts with the parents
12:29And the children
12:30Being raised first
12:31Because they're seeing this
12:32These kids are not blind
12:34They're not blind
12:35They're not blind
12:36They see this
12:36The young men
12:3714 and 15
12:39They're looking
12:39They're looking
12:41They see this
12:42What can a parent do
12:44See
12:46Basically
12:47The children
12:49Will know first
12:49They will know first
12:52They will know
12:52Before others
12:53Because they're watching
12:54Everything
12:55They see
12:56Because they're mimicking
12:57They want to be
12:58Perfect
12:59Like their parents
13:00Are perfect
13:00In this way
13:01And they will
13:03Watch
13:04And they'll see
13:05And they'll know
13:06If mama's not doing right
13:08If dad's not doing right
13:09You know
13:10They'll probably
13:11Look at them
13:11Give them a look
13:12Or try to
13:13You know
13:13Get in between
13:14The person
13:14And them
13:15And do different things
13:16Because children
13:17Are trying to keep
13:17Everything pure
13:18They want pure
13:19Because the bible
13:20Says
13:20If you don't come
13:21Like a little child
13:22You have to come
13:22As a little child
13:23So children
13:24Know the right
13:26Things
13:26And they want it
13:27Done right
13:28And they don't want
13:29That's my
13:30That's my mama
13:31That's my daddy
13:31Yeah
13:32She belongs to my daddy
13:33And not you
13:35Don't look at her
13:36You know
13:36Yeah
13:37And nowadays
13:37We're living
13:38They got
13:38Little kids
13:39Will tell you
13:40They will tell you all
13:41They will tell you
13:42About their mama
13:42They will
13:43Yes
13:44We're a different generation
13:46Yes
13:47What if
13:49A pastor
13:51Is up on the
13:53Pulpit
13:53He's up on the stage
13:54He's up there
13:55He's preaching
13:56And all of a sudden
13:57He turns
13:57He sees this young lady
13:58Or an older lady
14:00With no underwear on
14:02Opening her legs
14:03And he
14:05Right then and there
14:07Right then and there
14:08Rebukes her
14:10What do you think
14:11That'll happen
14:12If every pastor
14:14Follows suit
14:14What do you think
14:15Will happen
14:16Well
14:17It's like
14:18The main thing
14:19Is that
14:20You have to
14:21Probably have
14:22Your entourage
14:23Or whoever
14:23And people are
14:25To ask
14:25The person
14:27It happened
14:28In a service
14:28Let me tell you
14:29What happened
14:29In a service
14:30It happened
14:30I was in a service
14:32And
14:33And my cousin
14:35It was my cousin
14:36He was getting ready
14:36To preach
14:37And my sister
14:38Is a female pastor
14:40As well
14:40So she was there
14:41She was down
14:43On the pulpit
14:43And then there
14:44Were other ones
14:45Beside her
14:46And then
14:46He was doing this
14:47And she said
14:48I seen him doing this
14:49He kept turning his head
14:50He kept turning
14:51And then
14:52Finally
14:53He whispered
14:54He said
14:54We go tell that sister
14:56Close her legs
14:57Yes
14:59That's how he was
15:01He was openly rebuked
15:03He was openly
15:03He said
15:04Please go tell her
15:05Yes
15:06And not saying
15:08That she didn't have
15:08Undergarments on
15:09It was just
15:10Yeah
15:10What he was
15:12He was trying to get focused
15:13And he could not focus
15:15For the temptation
15:16And he knew
15:16That he had a word
15:18For the people
15:18And that's the devil's job
15:20The enemy's job
15:21Is to get you off the word
15:22That's right
15:23So that word
15:24Will not go out
15:25To those people
15:25That need healing
15:26And need deliverance
15:27And that's what
15:29The main thing
15:29They really don't want
15:30The preacher
15:31He's not that good looking
15:32He's not all that
15:33To them he is
15:34But it's the spirit
15:35That he has
15:36And like you said
15:37The power
15:37The control
15:38They want to be
15:39The first lady
15:40I have a story
15:42In my book
15:42About the first lady
15:43Anyway
15:43But they have a
15:44They want to be
15:45First lady
15:45And they'll do anything
15:47Even
15:48I don't want to get
15:50To tell you too much
15:51About the book
15:52But even
15:52Go to
15:54Don't get too much
15:55But yeah
15:56I get it
15:56I get it
15:57Wow
15:58That
15:58You know what
15:59I commend him
15:59For doing that
16:00Because maybe
16:01It wasn't a temptation
16:02For him
16:02Maybe it was a distraction
16:04It was a distraction
16:04Maybe it was
16:06The fact that
16:07He could see it
16:08That the kids
16:09Could see it
16:10And this is not good
16:11For the young men
16:12That are sitting there
16:12Like the 14
16:13And 15 year olds
16:14That are going
16:14To suberty
16:15This is not
16:16Can you please
16:17Tell her to close her legs
16:19Yes
16:20Because maybe it wasn't
16:21Bothering him too much
16:22As it was
16:22The fact that she was doing
16:24It was bothering
16:25The whole situation
16:27In itself
16:27Yeah
16:28It was bothering him
16:29Oh my gosh
16:31It was bothering him
16:32Because he was trying
16:33To get to
16:34He couldn't look
16:35That way
16:35And then finally
16:37Come to the place
16:38To where
16:38He was like
16:39I've had enough
16:40Yeah
16:41Rebuke it
16:42Like you say
16:42Rebuke it
16:43Yeah
16:43Rebuke it
16:44I say rebuke it
16:46I say call it out
16:46I say young ladies
16:48And women in the congregation
16:49If you want to wear
16:50A dress
16:51A skirt
16:51Make it
16:52Below the knees
16:53Sit down
16:55You're not spreading
16:57Germs everywhere
16:59Yeah
17:00And our church
17:01The church of God
17:02In Christ
17:03Some of our mothers
17:04In our church
17:05Some of the people
17:05In our churches
17:06They will put
17:07A blanket on you
17:09Give you a
17:09Yes
17:10Give you a towel
17:11Yes
17:12And they know
17:13You're in front row
17:14They will go ahead
17:14And do that
17:15And take care of that
17:16And that's
17:16Rebuke
17:17That's what I love
17:17About our church
17:18The church of God
17:19Yeah
17:19I'm not saying
17:21That every church
17:23Does this
17:23No they don't
17:24But from the beginning
17:26I've been in the church
17:27Over 41 years
17:29Been pastoring
17:29Well this is my
17:3141st
17:32I started when I was 18
17:33Yes I started
17:35Pastoring when I was 18
17:35And I've
17:36I've been all over
17:38The world
17:39All over the country
17:40And
17:41And it's the same
17:42Everywhere
17:43And you have to understand
17:45That temptation
17:46Is
17:46Is not
17:47I mean it's not sin
17:49But yielding to it
17:50Is sin
17:51It definitely is
17:52So that's why
17:53When they see the temp
17:54The ladies
17:54They're boom
17:55Protecting their pastor
17:57Protecting their people
17:58A lot of times
17:58You have those women
17:59That protect you
18:00They protect
18:02Yeah you definitely
18:04Have to do that
18:04You know I
18:05I absolutely commend you
18:06For doing this
18:07And for writing that book
18:08Because we knew
18:09We do need to bring that out
18:10And we do need to point that out
18:12When I was in the church
18:13I hated skirts
18:14But every time I wore a skirt
18:15It was always ankle length
18:17Yes
18:17Always all the way down
18:18To the floor
18:19I came from
18:21A church
18:22Baptist
18:22In Chicago
18:23Where my godmother
18:24Used to take me
18:25And you used to put
18:26The doilies on your head
18:27And if you sat in the front
18:29They had covers for you
18:31If you had
18:32If you didn't have
18:32A long
18:33You know
18:34Dress
18:35Or skirt
18:35I used to wear
18:37Pants
18:38That weren't tight fitting
18:39Like really loose pants
18:41Nice little jacket
18:42You know what I mean
18:43Cover everything up
18:44I have to wear a shirt
18:47That comes up to here
18:48I have to
18:49I'm not comfortable
18:50Anywhere
18:51Anywhere else
18:52I don't like being
18:53A distraction
18:53I want to get through
18:55That moment
18:56That
18:57I want to hear
18:58What you have to say
18:58I want to hear it
19:00And I don't want to
19:00Distract you
19:01Or anyone else
19:02Especially the kids
19:03Going through puberty
19:04Yes
19:05Young boys
19:06They cannot focus
19:08They forget the young boys
19:09And the young boys
19:10Have a hard time
19:12They do
19:12And we just like
19:14Well it's not happening
19:14They're just young
19:16They're just boys
19:17They're doing
19:17No
19:17No
19:18They have a hard time
19:20And
19:20After I wrote this book
19:23It seemed like
19:24Every
19:24Teacher
19:26In this area
19:28Texas
19:29Look
19:30Not every teacher
19:31But
19:31It's like
19:32Every week
19:33There's a teacher
19:34Getting called
19:34With a 14 year old boy
19:36Mostly middle school
19:37I know
19:38I heard
19:3914, 13, 12
19:40All over the place
19:41And they're saying
19:42Stuff
19:42And being impregnated
19:43By them
19:4414 and 12 year olds
19:45And the other day
19:46There was a 6 year old boy
19:47In the car
19:48I'm like
19:48What
19:49I mean
19:49It is
19:50It is getting sick
19:51That's why I say
19:51Sex in the church
19:52Needs to be taught
19:53Absence
19:54These young boys
19:56Young boys
19:57Young kids
19:57They're being abused
19:59They're being
19:59You know
20:00Being drunk
20:01Being just
20:02Missed
20:02I mean
20:03It's just sad
20:04Because
20:04The sexual appetite
20:05For people
20:06Have just went
20:07Off the charts
20:09Oh yeah
20:10Oh yeah
20:11I agree with you
20:12So there has to be
20:13The church has to stand up
20:14And they have to get right
20:16They gotta get first
20:17You gotta get first
20:18Judgment starts
20:19In the house of God
20:20And
20:21And
20:22Like I said
20:22A lot of times
20:23People get away with stuff
20:24I've even
20:25Talked to ladies
20:26That have
20:26You know
20:28You know
20:29We're facing divorce
20:30And
20:30Come to find out
20:31That
20:31They were secretly
20:33You know
20:34Going with him before
20:35When he was married
20:36With somebody else
20:37So what makes you think
20:38That
20:39You know
20:39That you're gonna
20:41Get away
20:41With it
20:42That
20:43Because
20:44He's going with you now
20:46And you took him
20:46From somebody else
20:47And that's another thing
20:48That people don't understand
20:49That
20:50You know
20:50It's a commitment
20:52A life commitment
20:54And
20:55The only way
20:56Jesus said
20:56We could
20:57Dismiss
20:57Is through
20:58Sexual
21:00Misconduct
21:04In other words
21:05Adultery
21:07That's the only way
21:08And it kills
21:10I mean
21:11It breaks
21:12It's a
21:13Tearing apart
21:14Ripping away
21:14Of the heart
21:15It is
21:15It's when it
21:16It rips away
21:17Because a woman
21:18You're never devastating
21:19When people
21:20You're so devastated
21:20When people
21:21Even stay there
21:22And they stay
21:23In that relationship
21:24Many times
21:26They're crying
21:27They're hurting
21:28And they're just there
21:29They're just there
21:30They don't know
21:31What to do
21:32They won't stay there
21:33For the children
21:33Like many people
21:35Stayed for the children
21:36And when the children
21:36Is gone
21:37Boom
21:38They're out of there
21:39That's their
21:40That's their thing to go
21:41Because
21:41And they're treated bad
21:43Because it's like
21:44You know
21:45I'm still here
21:45And I'm treating him bad
21:47Now because I'm mad
21:48But I'm still in a relationship
21:50Yeah
21:51No
21:52No
21:53I mean
21:53I understand hormonal issues
21:55And differences
21:57In hormones
21:58As you get older
21:59As a woman
21:59You know
22:00Menopause
22:00Kind of changes
22:01Your whole
22:02Outlook on things
22:04But if you love that person
22:05You'll work it out
22:06Yeah
22:07You know
22:07So
22:08You know
22:09Women do change
22:10And we don't put up
22:11With much
22:11When we get older
22:12We get a little bit meaner
22:14Yeah
22:14Oh yeah
22:15But
22:15But it's not because
22:17We don't love the person
22:19It's because
22:19We are coming into
22:20Okay
22:21Now I just want to
22:23Do what I want to do
22:24For me
22:25Because I've been
22:26Ignoring me
22:26All this time
22:27And I can't believe
22:28That I've been
22:29Ignoring me
22:29All this time
22:30And I think
22:31That that is another
22:32Mindset of the women
22:33That are sitting
22:34In the front pew
22:35Thinking
22:36I'm going to get mine
22:37Yeah
22:37And see
22:38And that's what
22:39A pastor's wife
22:39She was like
22:40Well you need to write
22:41A book
22:41For pastor's wives
22:42She was like
22:43They don't know
22:44What we go through
22:44These women are always
22:46You know
22:46Chasing out of them
22:47I call them
22:48Mid to hour
22:49Call them time
22:49One come over
22:50Pray for them
22:51And all these
22:52Different things
22:52And they're dealing
22:53With all this
22:54Trump
22:55And then
22:55You know
22:56They share the pastor
22:57With the whole church
22:58And many times
22:58He's got more
22:59Work to do
23:00With the church
23:01And the thing
23:01Then they get
23:03Left out
23:03So she was like
23:05You need to write
23:05About these pastors
23:07So they don't forget
23:08They are married
23:09And they have a wife
23:10And they need
23:10Yeah
23:11Leave me alone
23:13Yeah
23:14And I have days
23:16My wife
23:16She's like
23:16You know
23:18You're working
23:18You're a teacher
23:19You're a preacher
23:20You're a teacher
23:21I appreciate basketball games
23:24You do this
23:24And she's like
23:25Sometimes I just need you
23:26To be home
23:26And I don't go to church
23:29As I did
23:30I don't mean
23:31I used to go to church
23:32Every night
23:33Through the week
23:35But like I said
23:36A lot of people
23:37Were raised like that
23:38Yeah
23:38And the thing is
23:40That you don't have
23:41To go to church
23:41Every day
23:43No you don't
23:44But you do need
23:45You do need
23:46The word of God
23:47Every daily
23:47You do need
23:48Your bible
23:49Your time
23:49And all that
23:50And that is what
23:52Keeps you
23:53Like I said
23:54The book
23:54Every pastor
23:56Needs a copy
23:56Of this book
23:57Yeah
23:58Every pastor
23:59And there is a QR code
24:01In the top corner
24:02Over there
24:03If you're watching
24:04And you have your phone out
24:05There's an Amazon link
24:07There for the QR code
24:08And also in the description box
24:10There will be
24:11The link in the description box
24:13So that it'll be easy
24:14For you guys to find
24:15This book on Amazon
24:17You can also just go to Amazon
24:18In the search bar
24:19And put
24:20Sex and the Church
24:21Johnny Baker
24:21And you will find it as well
24:23And yeah
24:24Oh my goodness
24:25Yeah
24:27Stay away from the new stuff
24:29Oh yeah
24:30Stay away from that
24:31Yeah what about
24:31Now you're talking about
24:32The women and hormones
24:33These older women
24:34Oh yeah
24:36They're going bug wild
24:37They are
24:39What is up with that
24:40The old women
24:42I'm talking older
24:43Older
24:44I'm like what has happened
24:45I don't know
24:47The grannies are not grannies
24:48No they are not
24:49They are not
24:51They are
24:51They are
24:52How can I say this
24:54In a nice way
24:55So your book
24:56Says Sex
24:57They are after that
24:59Yes
24:59And then some
25:00Even more than the young kids
25:02Like
25:02Yes
25:03These older men
25:04Can't even keep up
25:04With some of these older women
25:06They have to just
25:07Pass the buck down
25:08Because that's
25:09Just not gonna happen
25:10You know
25:11It's like
25:12What is going on
25:13Well we got more
25:14And I have to say this
25:16In all honesty
25:17There is more HRTs
25:18Going out now
25:19There's more understanding
25:20Of the women's bodies
25:22Now
25:22And what happens
25:23And sometimes
25:25The side effects
25:27Of some of the HRTs
25:29Which is hormone replacement therapies
25:31Yes
25:31Can bring on
25:34The desire
25:35To
25:36Yeah
25:38Every day
25:39Every day
25:41Every day
25:41Yeah
25:42Just every day
25:43And you don't know
25:44What's going on with you
25:45But
25:46You want that every day
25:48And that's not something
25:50That's normal
25:51But that is a side effect
25:53And it doesn't happen
25:53To everybody
25:54But it does happen
25:55To some women
25:56Yeah
25:56It's
25:58It's
25:58It's just
26:00But
26:00If you take that away
26:02From the woman
26:02And then she begins
26:03To die slowly
26:04Yeah
26:05And so
26:06What do you do
26:07There is no middle ground
26:08There is
26:08The Bible
26:09There is prayer
26:10There is
26:11You know
26:13Understanding
26:14And
26:14And knowing your situation
26:16And knowing who's around you
26:17And respect
26:18I think respect has gone down
26:21And it's value
26:22A lot
26:23It's going down
26:24Yes
26:25Okay
26:25Yeah
26:26Respect
26:26Respect for other people's
26:28Husbands
26:29And wives
26:31Because I know that there are men out there
26:32That are trying to go for the pastor's wife too
26:34Oh yeah
26:35Oh
26:35That's
26:36That's
26:37That's
26:37That's a big one
26:38Well
26:39You learn your lesson as a pastor
26:41You learn your lesson
26:42That
26:43You go take
26:45But all the courage
26:46In your own relationship
26:47Because
26:48Most pastor wives
26:51Like I have a beautiful wife
26:52My wife
26:53She was a supermodel
26:55Basically
26:56And
26:56And I tell her
26:58I'm sticking close
26:59She's like
26:59When you're trying to hide me out
27:00You keep
27:00Look
27:01I'm not going to get bit twice
27:02I hear that
27:04I hear that
27:06First time
27:06It was
27:07It's not my fault
27:08Second time
27:08It's my fault
27:09Yes
27:11So I'm going to make sure
27:13But I'm glad
27:14I'm glad you wrote this book
27:15I'm glad that we talked about it
27:17Because this is not something
27:18That no one knows about
27:19A lot of people are turned off
27:21Of the church
27:22Because of it
27:23And they don't want to go back
27:25Because they've been hurt
27:26But this book will bring to light
27:29That there are
27:29You know
27:30People in the church
27:31Not like robots
27:32You know
27:33There are people in church
27:34What kind of advice
27:36Can you give to someone
27:37When they are going through this situation
27:40If you're going through this issue
27:43That you are
27:43You need somebody
27:45That's not
27:45Connected
27:47With that circle
27:49Outside
27:50To let them know
27:51What's going on
27:52In your life
27:53What's going on
27:54And that person will tell you
27:55That's not right
27:56They'll let you know
27:57A friend outside of the church
28:00You know
28:02It's good to tell the people
28:03In church
28:03But like we say
28:04Sometimes
28:04Church
28:05People
28:06We cover stuff up
28:07And the Bible says
28:08If you cover it up
28:08God's bringing to open shame
28:09That's why
28:10A lot of these times
28:11When it does happen
28:11Like we've seen
28:12The big mega churches
28:13We've seen these pastors fall
28:15We've seen pastors
28:16You know
28:17Just falling by the wayside
28:18We've seen
28:18Sexual perversion
28:20Sexual misconduct
28:21And all of the big megas
28:23And we see it all over the world
28:25And that's why
28:26I wrote this
28:26Once I wrote this book
28:27It seemed like they started
28:28Dropping like flies
28:29It was like
28:30Every week
28:31It was like
28:31This one off
28:32That one
28:33What
28:33What
28:33And then you start
28:35But God is doing
28:36That uncovering
28:37So they can get
28:38Their lives right
28:39Yeah
28:40He's uncovering
28:41See 2025
28:42Was a year of uncovering
28:44And this 2026
28:45Is a year of the fix
28:46So it's time
28:48To fix your spirit
28:49You know
28:49Get
28:50You know
28:50Get the book
28:51Get the understanding
28:52What God says
28:53About sex
28:54And the things
28:55That you need to do
28:55To keep yourself
28:56From these
28:57You know
28:58These different
28:59Issues and things
29:00And our churches
29:01Are getting sued
29:02All churches
29:03Are getting sued
29:04All churches
29:05Are getting sued
29:06You remember
29:06The Catholic church
29:07Had a big suit
29:08And all other churches
29:10Are getting sued
29:11By people
29:13When these things happen
29:14And you know
29:15There's some
29:15In the news
29:16I don't need to name
29:17Any names
29:17But a famous musician
29:19I mean
29:19A songwriter
29:21Or a songster
29:26You know
29:26He's a preacher
29:27As well
29:27You know
29:28He's in the news
29:29Right now
29:30And it's always
29:31Going to be there
29:32Because
29:33Yeah
29:33We're dealing with
29:34Sex
29:34And what we did
29:35Is we
29:36As people
29:37Men
29:37Women
29:38We took sex
29:38And we abused it
29:40We didn't keep it
29:40Where God says
29:41And we
29:42Add so much stuff
29:43To it
29:44We do all
29:44All this extra
29:45Like you said earlier
29:46All this extra
29:47New stuff
29:48New stuff
29:49And it throws people
29:50Out there
29:51For out
29:52For out
29:53And it's all about
29:54It's a mind thing
29:55It's all about the mind
29:56Definitely
29:57Don't get intertwined
29:59With the new stuff
29:59The new stuff
30:00Ain't really new
30:01It's old
30:01Yeah
30:02It's just refurbished
30:03And it's spray painted
30:04Just stay away from it
30:06Stay away from it
30:07Just stay away from the new stuff
30:09You know
30:10I thank you so much
30:11Johnny
30:11For being on the show
30:12It's just been a pleasure
30:13Having you
30:14You know
30:14Where can people
30:16Find your book
30:16I mean
30:17Where can they go
30:18Besides Amazon
30:19Because we already know
30:19About Amazon
30:20But do you have
30:21Other places
30:21That your book
30:22Is published on
30:23Yes
30:24It's B.N.
30:25Barnes & Nobles
30:26Which is my publisher
30:27B.N.
30:27Barnes & Nobles
30:28Amazon is running
30:29A special right now
30:30So they can get it
30:31For less than a hamburger
30:32And maybe
30:34That's
30:34Maybe
30:34Everybody
30:35Go get their pastor
30:36With copy
30:37And put it in their hands
30:38Let them as a pastor
30:39This is called
30:40Sex in the church
30:41And it deals with
30:42The sexuality
30:43Of each person
30:45In the church
30:46And their people
30:48And also scripture
30:49That the last days
30:50That you talk
30:50Of the young people
30:51Boys and girls
30:52He said
30:52The sons and daughters
30:53Shall prophesy
30:54But the sons
30:55Don't know their sons
30:56And they think
30:57They're daughters
30:57And the daughters
30:58Think they're sons
30:58They're confused
31:00Well that's what happens
31:01With the young generation
31:02They're confused
31:04And they're trying it
31:05And they're
31:05They're getting confused
31:06And the older people
31:08Are confusing them as well
31:10So it's a messed up world
31:12So we're just
31:13Going to have to
31:14Pray that
31:15We maintain
31:17Until Jesus returns
31:18That's right
31:19Well thank you so much
31:20Johnny for being on the show
31:21I appreciate it
31:22And I hope this
31:23Has helped you guys
31:24To understand that
31:25You know
31:25We are people
31:26In the church
31:27And people have
31:28We have things
31:29That we have to get over
31:31We have things
31:31That we have to have
31:32Healed
31:33Corrected
31:34Rebuked
31:35You know
31:36And
31:37Sometimes it'll happen
31:38Right then and there
31:39And if that's something
31:41That you have to work on
31:42I do suggest
31:44Not sitting in the front row
31:46Kind of go to the middle
31:47Of the back row
31:48And
31:48Kind of correct it
31:50And you know
31:51And when you see it
31:52You'll be happier
31:53About yourself
31:54For respecting
31:56The relationship
31:57That took so long
31:58For the pastor
31:59And his wife
32:00To actually work on
32:01As well as
32:03Continue to work on
32:04Because again
32:05Whoever the pastor
32:06Is in that congregation
32:07Has a very big responsibility
32:09Yes
32:10Well thank you so much
32:12Johnny
32:13Thank you so much
32:13Thank you for having me
32:14Oh thank you
32:15And thank you guys
32:16Don't forget it
32:16Sex in the Church
32:17By Johnny Baker
32:18You can get that
32:18On Barnes and Nobles
32:19As well as Amazon
32:20We do have the QR code
32:21In the corner
32:22So that way
32:23It's easy for you guys
32:24To find it
32:24But if you can't
32:25Find it in the QR corner
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32:31Thank you guys so much
32:32For tuning in
32:33And don't forget
32:33To dare to be different
32:35And be good
32:36Just be good
32:37Thank you
32:39Come on
32:40Women's talk
32:42We are your diamonds
32:43Turn it up
32:44Let's ride it
32:46Stories made of
32:47Thunder
32:48Heart and soul
32:49Women's talk
32:51We are your diamonds
32:52Feel that power rising
32:54Every word is gold
32:57Let the good times roll
32:59Thank you for watching
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