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About the Book:
Sage Weiss loses his mother in an unimaginable murder. After he returns home to investigate, he suffers
a second heartbreak when his fiancée is murdered. While recovering from the horrific losses, he
stumbles onto a theory that leads him to discover that some humans have genetic predispositions to be
attracted to one another. These dispositions also create the reasons that we hate one another and even
explain why some people kill.
Along with his brother, Parker, and Detective Johnson, Sage uncovers evidence that indicates that these
circumstances develop based on conditions surrounding one’s conception. The trio must locate the
origin of the phenomenon and the people responsible before they fall victim to the killers.
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00:10my name is James Moore today we're going to talk about my book squirm it is a book that deals
00:17with
00:18a lot of things on a lot of levels relationships sci-fi it's a murder mystery heart and soul
00:24passion i'm here with ya ya diamond
00:26ya ya diamond dream chasers we won't wait subscribe today before it's too late inspiration flow and
00:49just like the breeze chase your dreams and feel at ease
00:56be good be very good i don't know i don't know if i want to be good i mean this
01:04is totally not about
01:06being good this is about being good i don't know i don't know the acronyms and all the other things
01:11that you could say like two and two and two but we got squirm now it's not spelled the way
01:18you think
01:18it would be spelled okay so no we got squirm today we're going to be talking about the author
01:23uh and the book and the volume and the purpose of squirm today with author james c moore i want
01:33to
01:33welcome him to the show thank you so much for joining us thank you for having me i appreciate
01:37it and i must say i love your intro videos they're awesome thank you it's you know what it's it's
01:43a
01:43collection that i update from time to time with different interviews and people that i've had on
01:48the show and it's wonderful but i never ever take my mother out to tell her to be be good
01:52because that
01:53is the the last thing that she she told me before she passed away you better be good
01:58so yeah that's why that's there you better be good she always i love it i love it i love
02:04it thank
02:04you thank you and she's always told me that you better be good so
02:10i'm not i'm not i'm i'm a mischievous person i like to get into things
02:16we'll talk about some mischievousness later too that's okay and i think that's what your book is
02:22a little bit of about i mean squirm right yes a little bit let's go let's go back a little
02:27bit
02:27let's talk about you let's talk about the moment that you decided and that you knew because a lot
02:32of people don't know that sometimes this knocks you right in the head and you're supposed to be
02:36doing a book you're supposed to be doing something yet you don't do it so tell me about this
02:43so it's interesting the squirm came to me the the the concept came to me about 30 years ago
02:51and it came from a video i watched and it was it was a show about relationships and it was
03:00men and
03:00women when they're in a couple and they spend time away uh when they get back together the man's body
03:07produces an inordinate amount of sperm and part of that sperm is designed to be killer sperm that its job
03:14is to seek out and destroy any foreign sperm that may be within and may be within the woman's body
03:20oh and you know i i kind of thought about i was like oh what happens if that sperm actually
03:25fertilizes
03:26an egg what's the outcome and my thought was maybe that's where serial killers come from
03:34yeah because if you know if if you're born of a a killer sperm and your job is to seek
03:40out and destroy
03:41what does that person turn into that was the question that i asked that was that was the
03:45overarching question um i found that killer sperm generally don't fertilize eggs but my question
03:53was what if it did so that i sat on for 30 years i had a radio show with some
04:00buddies and i brought this
04:01concept up and they were like yeah we're kind of against that that's really high level we don't
04:05we don't want to put that on the show i said okay no problem so i was sitting in my
04:10office and this
04:10very office talking with my dad and i was explaining that same concept to him and what i thought of
04:16it
04:16and i told him i said you know pop this would make a a great book or a great movie
04:21i could write this
04:22amazing story and he turned to me and he said son what's stopping you and i thought for about three
04:30seconds and by the time he left my office it was about 20 minutes i had bought i purchased uh
04:35screen
04:35writing software and i started right out i had the story laid out i created a world i created a
04:40codex i created all these things to build this world around squirm and then um i put it together
04:49and i started writing i told myself you know i had full beard i'm not gonna shave until this is
04:53done
04:53it's probably gonna be months i'll look like you know scraggly old man and i had the screenplay done
05:00with 10 episodes in roughly 30 days oh my gosh done absolutely done um it was interesting because
05:12i had the idea i had the concept had the story what i didn't have was the skill set to
05:19write a
05:19screenplay because i didn't know the formats and you know the you know eight turn and the cat and all
05:25i
05:25didn't know anything of that and you know i'd gone to a couple people like hey i had this great
05:28idea
05:29can you know you work at the local college can we make this into a you know short trailer and
05:34concept and they're like yeah you you don't know what you're doing i'm like okay it's a good story
05:39right like thanks for sharing your baby with me we appreciate it but you need to go get a skill
05:43set
05:44for writing all of your your your screenplay stuff so what happened in the meantime you know i was a
05:52little
05:53disheartened by that at first yeah but i realized okay i don't know how to write screenplays but what
05:58i do know how to do is write i know how to tell stories so i took each scene from
06:05each episode and
06:07that basically became a chapter in the book and next thing i know i had over 200 pages like that
06:13and it
06:14took me two months and i had to find a publisher and all that good stuff but that's kind of
06:18how it became
06:19the book and so what i found about the book is that i could go into the characters minds and
06:27share their
06:27thoughts and what they were going through i could enhance their dialogue you know show more of the
06:33reaction between the characters why they did what they did why the other people did what they did what
06:38the phenomenon was i built a world in which it could exist and explain why and then yeah what i
06:47did is
06:47i found those things that are scary to us those things that we couldn't explain
06:56and i rooted the book around those things that were realistic so it's a sci-fi book rooted in truth
07:03rooted in science and i started explaining phenomenon that we couldn't normally or didn't we kind of maybe
07:12dismissed it and i turned that into sections of the book and concepts in the book and that's kind of
07:21how
07:21i got started oh my gosh that is absolutely crazy to get that idea like what if oh you know
07:34i don't like
07:35um horror i'm not a horror person i'm more of a runaway because there is horror
07:43it's like why is yaya running just don't ask just run with me just run with me
07:49right if i see you running i'm gonna run with you i'm not gonna wait
07:52just run with me there is a reason that yaya is running because yaya doesn't run
08:00my gosh oh gosh okay that's scary that is truly truly like nerve-breakingly scary and you put that
08:08in my head in my head and now i'm probably going to be thinking about that for the rest of
08:10the day
08:11but okay there's some other scary stuff you might it's not scary in terms of rah-rah it's scary it's
08:18it's it yeah it's cray cray scary yeah a little bit yeah yeah it's a cray cray scary yeah that's
08:27like
08:27that that that rogue sperm exactly exactly
08:34so what so when you got this out what did it mean to you to write the book like when
08:39you wrote
08:40because i know you said you didn't you you took the screenplay that you did write that you didn't
08:44understand you i mean i figured that that would be kind of like your synopsis for each chapter and the
08:50book's way of presenting itself to you even though you didn't know how to write a screenplay
08:57but what did it mean to you when you were done and after that whole month of writing and getting
09:03everything down so the screenplay took me the the 10 episodes took me about a month the book took me
09:12a couple of months and what i in essence did is i laid out the screenplay in my document and
09:19each
09:19segment i expanded and put those thoughts in there and then when i finished i thought to myself like
09:26that was my first thought and i'm like wow i i i've done something and for me yeah yeah i
09:32grew
09:32up south side of tucson i'm a product of the foster care system and uh as you may have heard
09:41me mention
09:41before i was told i was supposed to be a statistic so i was you know without breaking my arm
09:48a little pat
09:49on the back i was like okay you've done something you've done and something that most people where
09:54i'm from don't do they don't do that and not only do they not do it but some people ask
10:00why are you
10:01doing that and you know maybe you shouldn't yeah and so i i took a different spin on it and
10:07i was
10:07like okay and you know for a minute i was i i thought about it's not that big of a
10:11deal but
10:12then i talked to a couple of folks and and they said you know hey who else has done this
10:16in your
10:17family your circle come on so i had to kind of change my own perspective you know that inner
10:23dialogue like hey man you've actually done something here yeah man yeah i agree so when i
10:29actually saw it in print because you know i'd worked with the publisher and you know we'd worked
10:33on the the front cover and all that other stuff but when i saw it the editor's notes and all
10:39that
10:39stuff and then i got my first copy if i could toot my own horn i got the copy and
10:44they sent me like
10:4510 copies in a box and i was like oh my gosh that's me on that page and there's a
10:52box of books
10:54with my name on them and it's really cool because they're on the internet and barnes and noble and
10:58amazon and people can order them there's a digital i was i was just blown away i was like
11:03oh wow look what i've i've done it i kind of got like like chills a little bit and then
11:08honestly there was a part where i got a little nervous i'm like okay i just put my whole heart
11:11on this
11:12book you know you know i'm i'm i'm an artist sort of you know i'm a former professional chef
11:17so we you know we know what it's like to be critiqued like this isn't good you know or this
11:22is good you know we we live off of those comments you know you only ask whatever you know so
11:27it was
11:27it was quite the journey they're quite the journey wow well you know i figure like a lot of people
11:35would be like you know you're just living and then you're gonna die what's the point
11:40the point is to fill the between the little dash to live to live to do something that you've always
11:50wanted to do and you know the question was always in my head and and that's probably why i'm a
11:55podcaster and a tv show host and and done a lot of different things on radio is because
11:59i have the stupidest questions but but they make sense yeah you know answers yeah it's like i need
12:07answers to these questions somebody's got to answer me okay now you know and my very first question was
12:15why is broccoli called broccoli when it should be called pods interesting
12:24interesting interesting so my mom says i don't have time for your broccoli question
12:30she says you need to put that on the radio or something and that was like and i was like
12:35five
12:37okay she said you asked too many questions i said well i'm getting no answers
12:44yeah but it should be pods they're little pods
12:48okay did you ask a little flower i never got an answer never got an answer so did you ask
12:54her about
12:55cauliflower oh you know what i just didn't go there i just didn't go there i asked her about a
13:01lot of
13:02different things and when she came home sometimes her stuff was in pieces because i wanted to see what
13:07was inside so she would tell me be good be good that was her thing so you know i'm the
13:16kind of person
13:16where if my lawnmower breaks i'm taking it apart to see what part of it is bad that's exactly what
13:27they're for and i'm here to take it apart to see how it's going to do it and i put
13:30it in sequence
13:32so that i can put it back together again and that's how i fix my stuff my mama's always told
13:37me be good
13:38so yeah but you know taking your book apart taking it so let's take it apart for a second
13:48because i love the the inquisitive thought about a rogue sperm the one that's supposed to destroy
13:57all other sperm now he kicking people out of there now what is she doing with other sperm we're not
14:04talking about that we're not going to talk about that that is part of the story though how it is
14:09part of the story okay but we can't talk about that because then it would reveal too much
14:16they gotta read the book yeah you do have to read the book but yeah there's there's there's a
14:21reasoning behind okay let me ask you a question okay questions have you ever met somebody that
14:27when you met them you just automatically clicked and maybe you stayed friends for for years ever
14:32yeah maybe you're in your relationship you met someone you're like this is my soulmate you do you
14:37just knew you just knew yeah yep that's it and then there's other times you meet people and you're like
14:42i don't know why but i just can't stand that person i always told my husband i said i can't
14:47put my finger
14:48on it but there there's something there's something that it keeps evading me i can't put my finger on it
14:56but i don't like it yeah sperm tells you why tells you exactly why that is oh goodness is that
15:04in your
15:04book it is in the book how about a codex it's a codex in your book it is because what
15:10happens is
15:11there's in in the book are three types of humans regular humans like me and you and then ones that
15:19we
15:19kind of code name greens and ones that we code name reds okay when you have green and reds
15:26together they don't get along okay but two greens together are those best friends for life
15:34two reds together are very mischievous
15:39okay so now you kind of get to see like all right reds and greens don't really match up
15:46that's why when you meet that person you're like man i don't know why i don't trust that guy yeah
15:51if you
15:52use the the theory and the codex of the book it's because you're probably agreeing to that person's
15:56red oh is this in real life i tied it to real life so that's the concept of the book
16:05because
16:05yeah because like you i had questions so i said why is it i just i can't stand that joker
16:12right there i
16:12don't know why and then this person over here like this is this this is my best friend we're we're
16:17friends
16:17from i have friends like that i have a buddy we've been friends since we're 14. we've been friends
16:22for 40 years okay and other people we click we just squirm explains why that is and how that is
16:31and why you get that creepy feeling around some people creepy that's that's the understatement of
16:37the day like you know if you saw a person that said hey you need to run to the restroom
16:40at the airport
16:41would you leave your kid with that person uh no absolutely no ain't no way okay that's telling
16:47you something and so when i had all these questions i said okay we have this sort of internal guidance
16:52system this radar that tells us something where does it come from so i built that into the world
16:57of squirm i said okay here here's how that works here's why it works just like uh for instance have
17:05you ever had your ear itch like way down in there you just oh i hate to it oh yes
17:11squirm tells you why
17:12that is okay that's me rooting those those real life things into the sci-fi and say okay you've
17:21experienced this you saw something out of the corner of your eye you didn't know what it was
17:24oh you're gonna learn and tonight after you read squirm you might have some second thoughts before you
17:29turn the lights off you're gonna scare me i had to build a world for it for all these things
17:41to
17:41happen and so in the short there's one way of looking at squirm is about relationships
17:49overarching but the main character's name is sage and his best friend slash brother is parker
17:55they are tight like parker was at sage's house all the time called his mother mom that's how close
18:03they were they refer to each other as brothers sage is african-american parker is asian but when they
18:08say we're brothers people are like wait what that's how tight they are okay right this whole concept is
18:15built around those relationships and they're discovering why these things are happening and not
18:23just that they're happening but they've been happening going back to the beginning of time
18:27just we didn't know what those things were we didn't know what they were called we didn't know
18:31why serial killers did what they did we didn't know how they got started or what caused it and it
18:37discusses that maybe way back when in tribes there maybe there was a purpose for those guys
18:44so it covers a lot of things you know in terms of relationships but it's tied into that scary
18:51part that wait a minute something something's just not right here let me can't quite why am i nervous
18:56around this person what is that no yeah i usually don't hang out like you know something comes up
19:05right away like oh i forgot exactly exactly well what did you forget anything anything other than this
19:14anything other than this i'll tell you when i find it i'll let you know you know i got adhd
19:19and you
19:20know i walked into the room yeah but this is not a room this outside yeah this is outside room
19:26this is
19:27a lot of processing i gotta go back i gotta pick up something i gotta leave i'm going so let
19:34me ask you
19:35question why did you why did you name the book squirm i kind of got an idea okay but the
19:42spelling is weird
19:44right as everyone wants it is it is it is you in there somewhere you know and it's kind of
19:54interesting
19:55when i started writing i couldn't call the book killer sperm because i was like that's going to be a
20:02word but so when i first started kind of mocking up what i thought the the cover should look like
20:09in my own little animations i took the word sperm and i turned the p around and made it a
20:14cue that's
20:15what i thought yeah that yeah that's what it was because you know if you saw the other words sitting
20:20on the book you'd be like yeah i don't think i'm gonna pick that up and read it because what's
20:23it about
20:24so squirm kind of meant a lot of things like you know when you're uncomfortable you squirm
20:30it's a play on the word and then also what's missing the you so where's you
20:37you know what i mean so it kind of became kind of a thing that was accidentally deep
20:41now when i sat down i was thinking about the name of it and i tried to come up with
20:45the names of the
20:45characters like everybody's name kind of has a meaning behind it or a reason or a logic to it
20:53and every character is based on one or more people that i actually know so that's something else i did
21:00because my my research told me that if you can't put yourself into that person or into the mind of
21:06that person you shouldn't write them so i know this is going to sound silly but i found myself being
21:12those characters and sitting here like okay if i'm this guy what would i say to this guy and oh
21:17yeah and
21:17then this lady would say that because of who they are and i based them on i'll be honest when
21:23i needed
21:23like a jerk or a blankety blank type person um i went back in my mental rolodex like oh yeah
21:30that guy
21:31did me that's this character like i remember when you yeah yeah this is you this is my book i
21:41wrote about you
21:44the names are changed to protect the innocent and maybe partially guilty but you're in there
21:49you don't have to look at them like this you know i wrote about you there you go exactly exactly
21:57just look at them like you know i wrote exactly and then you know it was it was such fun
22:03because
22:04like i based parker sage's brother slash counterpart on a person that was a brilliant researcher i went
22:13to school with him and i always joke that if you ask this guy there's a book out there on
22:19earth that
22:19has a fly smashed on on page 72 what book is that give him 24 hours he'll tell you and
22:25so
22:27i based that character on him because he was such a brilliant researcher he found he found everything
22:33wow like everything still to this day he sends me hey i just found this i'm like you still find
22:39everything i hear you wow wow we do have those amazing friends like i have a friend of mine he's
22:46autistic but if you ask him anything about any era of music he'll tell you right off the bat like
22:51right
22:51there like right there like within a couple of seconds he'll know just amazing amazing people
22:58just amazing people they have these amazing talents and so many and i don't have that
23:04i could take things apart and put it back together in order and fix the part that doesn't look good
23:10and
23:10fix the actual thing without ever ever being ever having to have done that before
23:17that's something i can do but we all have our own skill sets and we gravitate towards people who
23:22complement what we do and that's what happens with sage and parker and some of the other folks is
23:28you know you in the book you find out kind of like okay why is this person ocd oh here
23:35we go okay cool i
23:36get that makes perfect sense now so once again rooting that that science into it and you know think about
23:42you probably have two or three friends that when you all get together you each have a specialty and
23:47all together you're you're an unstoppable team yeah yeah yeah and i'm glad i'm happy because i can't do what
23:55they do and vice versa right you know so and vice versa yeah and vice versa yeah but they see
24:01the three of you
24:02sitting there and they're like yeah you know better than to go over to that table and start something
24:05because yeah because you got one face looking at you like why are you over here and the other one's
24:10like uh can you leave because we all think the same thing it's like huh exactly
24:20wow i want to thank you so much for being on the show james i appreciate it you know as
24:26as and i know
24:27we've run out of time but i wanted to ask you this and it's a really important question and not
24:33just for
24:34us but for those who are listening and watching today you know if you could go back in time and
24:40look at the reason and and look at the results of this book not today but right after you finish
24:46writing it and someone asked you you know why should i even go after my dreams what would you tell
24:53them
24:55what a cool question um i would tell them a couple of things no one can ever steal your dreams
25:05so
25:06always follow them no one can steal your education so always get some and when you follow your dreams
25:12with that little bit of education in whatever area that is you create something that no one can steal from
25:19you and see for me i was told i couldn't and that became fuel for me and it was a
25:26person really close
25:27to me and if you'd like me to share that i will with you but it was it was a
25:31really deep intimate
25:34moment that momentarily broke my heart but became such fuel in my tank that i said you know what no
25:43one
25:43will ever stop me not gonna happen so don't let anybody stop you go after that that even if it's
25:50small and it starts small let let it grow let it get your your dream chasers right oh yeah chase
25:57that
25:57dream chase that dream go out there and grab it and let somebody tell you no every time they tell
26:04you
26:04no so i bet you i can i bet you i can that's it that's how i feel that's how
26:12i feel and and you
26:13know what someone close to me told me the same thing and you know what i told them right i'm
26:20not
26:20gonna say it here i'm not gonna say it here but use your imagination use your imagination because no one
26:29tells me no for something that i really truly want to do and and that's why my mom always told
26:34me be
26:35good because i didn't hold back but james thank you so much for being on the show i appreciate it
26:42i want to thank you guys so much for tuning in we got the book and the website is squirm
26:46that's sq
26:47e r m dot com s q e r m dot com we gotta make sure we say that right
26:56jerry
26:59and uh go ahead and check that book out for yourself if you're looking to find out what the
27:04rogue sperm did and how it has affected all of the people around it then you need to read the
27:13book
27:14thank you so much yeah yeah i appreciate it anytime anytime and thank you guys again so
27:19much for tuning in don't forget to dare to be different until next time guys bye
27:38thank you for watching
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