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00:00What has been the biggest legal win for the Adele industry since you got involved with

00:04the FSC?

00:05I think that the biggest win and really was sort of Prop 60.

00:10And I think that the FSC had had victories before.

00:14It had gone, it's gone to the Supreme Court and it's won.

00:16It had a battle over essentially sort of barely legal content or what we used to term barely

00:21legal content, which, you know, was basically saying that if something looked like it was,

00:27they were underage, you know, if it didn't matter if you're 24 and pigtails, if a prosecutor

00:33thought that you looked too young, you would be brought up on, you know, sex abuse charges

00:38essentially, sort of, you know, child pornography.

00:40Which is insane.

00:41Because that's such like, I mean, you let one person decide that.

00:45I mean, it's the same with obscenity, right?

00:47Like it's just like this kind of arbitrary decision by what one person, I mean, then that's such

00:52a slippery slope.

00:52And it allows you to harass the business, right?

00:54So I think that anytime that you're talking about, you know, abuse material or people

00:59who are underage or things like that, you know, you're dealing with, you want a clear

01:03line, right?

01:04If somebody is 18 or they're not 18, they can consent or they can't consent.

01:09Once you start having, you know, conservative prosecutors say, well, I don't like the way

01:13that that person looks, you know, or, you know, then, and there's no sort of standard.

01:17Well, then they can go after anybody.

01:19It doesn't matter if, you know, there are performers who look young, but are 28, 29, 30.

01:24Um, that's not the same, you know, and the, the, the, the penalties for child pornography

01:30are incredibly high, right?

01:33It's like 25 years in jail.

01:34So being her image image.

01:37And I know that because in the Tracy Lawrence scandal, when my parents were facing jail,

01:42that was like the one thing that my father was, you know, that's why they destroyed all

01:46their content because they had like hundreds and hundreds of pictures of her and frames of

01:51a, of a video and just like absolutely terrified.

01:54Yeah.

01:55This industry has always, I mean, in my experience, and I'm sure yours as well, has always been

01:59really, really locked down when it comes to age, right?

02:03Like there's no joking, there's no pushing, right?

02:05Like someone may look younger, you know, have a younger look, but we make sure that they

02:10are of legal age, that they are consenting, that this is sort of how it goes.

02:14And I think that, so FSC had sort of, there was a law that was passed that said, you know,

02:19if you look underage, it's the same thing as if you're actually underage.

02:23Nobody wanted to fight it.

02:25FSC fought it.

02:25We went to the Supreme Court.

02:27We won.

02:28It was a victory, not just for us, but also for Hollywood, because the way that the law

02:32was written, it was if you appeared to be underage or if you appeared to be having sex.

02:36So in that regard, you know, whether it's Romeo and Juliet or euphoria or something that if

02:41it looks like it is a minor having sex, even if you're not seeing the explicit sex, you

02:46could be brought up on child porn charges.

02:48And so obviously they weren't probably going to go after Hollywood.

02:51They were going to go after us, but we fight those victories.

02:54So that was probably the biggest FSC victory for us.

02:57Prop 60, again, it was when we started out on that, it was a ballot initiative that would

03:02mandate condoms in adult films.

03:05And if you didn't, you know, if you didn't use a condom, whether you were making your own

03:10content or whether you were, you know, shooting for a studio, the enforcement was that someone

03:15who watched that video could sue you, right?

03:18So someone watches your video, you've got a content on a clip site or a fan site, they

03:26see that you're not using a condom, they're going to sue you because they think that it's

03:30a bad message, right?

03:31That was sort of what it was.

03:33That means that they get to drag you into court, right?

03:36That means that you get harassed and, and performers saw this immediately and said,

03:40first of all, my body, my choice, right?

03:42There's reasons when I want to use a condom.

03:44There's reasons that I don't, um, I'm tested every two weeks.

03:48I make these decisions about myself.

03:50And two, I don't want my stalkers coming in and having an excuse to say, oh, you didn't

03:56do this.

03:57Well, I'm going to drag you into court.

03:58Yeah.

03:58Right.

03:58I've got, there's a lot of those.

04:00So many girls have like really crazy stalker fans that will use.

04:04I mean, so many girls like deal with, uh, catfishing, right?

04:08And then these, these fans get catfished by these fake accounts.

04:12Happens to me too.

04:13I had some guy reach out to me the other day, said that he gave some fake Holly $7,000.

04:18And I said, I was going to move him out to my farm in Texas.

04:21I was like, I don't have a farm in Texas.

04:24You know what I mean?

04:24And then he was just like, oh my God, I'm handicapped.

04:26I can't afford this.

04:27I'm like, where the fuck did you send the money then?

04:29Yeah.

04:29Like you obviously never spoke to me.

04:32Like it was just, you know?

04:33So, but anyways, I, I have a friend, um, who has this, this one guy who is convinced that

04:39it's her fault that he felt for a scammer.

04:43And he's like trying to drag her into court.

04:45He's like harassing her because he sent money to a fake version of her, which is not her fault.

04:52No.

04:53It's just, and it's just crazy.

04:54And one thing I do actually want to say about, um, the condom law, a great, um, representation

05:01of, of why it was like not an ideal law whatsoever was actually when I was, uh, hosting a show

05:10for Playboy TV called adult film school.

05:12And so the whole premise of that was we took real couples that had been together for a long

05:18time and they wanted to make a professional sex tape.

05:20But because of the condom law and because it was Playboy and they were like very much

05:26about, you know, playing by the rules, I had to take these couples who'd been married for

05:3125 years, had three kids.

05:33Not only do I have to now put them like in front of a crew on a porn set and have sex,

05:39which is like intimidating for everyone.

05:41I have to make them wear condoms.

05:43These like real life couples who don't work because they're a couple.

05:46It was crazy.

05:48The fail rate was like 90%.

05:50It was so bad.

05:51It was so bad that the second season, we took it to Austin because of that condom loss.

05:58We took that work out of California.

06:00Because if you were not shooting in California, you didn't have to follow these regulations.

06:04I mean, I think that that's exactly it.

06:05When you have people who come outside the industry, they have these ideas as how the industry works

06:10and what should be done.

06:11And they don't have the insight that people who actually work on set do.

06:17And they don't want to listen to people who work on set because they think that, again,

06:21we're dumb, we're criminal, like we're manipulated or whatever it is.

06:25And as a result, they draft legislation and they draft regulation that just doesn't work

06:30because it's based on fictions, right?

06:32It's based on myths.

06:33It's based on things that they've seen on an HBO show, but not based on what the reality

06:39of everyone's lives and jobs are.

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