00:00Have you had any negative experiences in the industry with transphobia?
00:04Yes, but it was literally on my last movie, the I Am Aubrey movie, with one of my partners.
00:11Really?
00:12So, like, I drove all the way.
00:14So I was living in New York, and I have a house in Vegas, too.
00:18So I flew from New York to Vegas and drove down to L.A., like, all in one day.
00:25And I had a call time of, like, 5 a.m. or something, because I had to get in hair and makeup.
00:30And he came, and he was, like, messaging me, like, on Twitter.
00:34And you probably know who it is.
00:35Oh, I do remember this story.
00:37And he, like, came on set, and, like, I did my whole interview.
00:40He did his whole interview.
00:42And during his interview, they asked, like, are you excited, like, for your first trans experience or something like that?
00:48And I guess he didn't know, which I don't understand, because, like, this was, like, my eighth or ninth year in the porn industry, you know?
00:56And, like, I already won my three AVN Awards, like, Performer of the Year.
01:00And, like, he was there.
01:02Like, and he fucking shook my hand and said, congratulations.
01:05So it was very weird.
01:07But then he left, and, like, Aiden came up to me, and she was, like, um, he had a herpy outbreak.
01:15Like, like, just, like, totally lied to, like, not hurt my feelings.
01:20Oh, okay.
01:20You know?
01:21Yeah.
01:21And, like, I don't know if he has that, but whatever.
01:24But that's, like, what she told me.
01:25She was, like, he had a herpy outbreak.
01:26Sorry, but, like, can we do somebody else?
01:28Yeah.
01:28Like, trying just, like, not kill my mood or, like, make me feel bad or sad.
01:33And then he, like, messages me.
01:36And he's, like, how dare you trick me?
01:39Like, all this stuff.
01:40I was, like, my very first pain of my Twitter is my dick out.
01:45You know?
01:45Like, it was, like, me holding my dick.
01:46And it was, like, OnlyFans.
01:48Like, all this stuff.
01:49Did he message you on Twitter?
01:51Yeah.
01:51And it was, like, this whole, like, nasty thing.
01:53And he blocked me and all this stuff.
01:56And then there was, like, some YouTube that was, like, Aubrey Kate ruins so-and-so.
02:03And it was, like, this, like, hour, like, video.
02:06And they were, like, posting up, like, screenshots and stuff.
02:09And I'm just, like, what the heck?
02:11Wow.
02:11But that was kind of, like, my only time, like, facing that.
02:16And it was just kind of a whole weird experience.
02:19It was, like, what?
02:21Yeah.
02:22I mean, how do you feel, like, if somebody doesn't want to work with someone who's trans?
02:27So I have, like, I guess two different parts of that.
02:30I feel like guys that are in my DM that just want to fuck me behind camera and not let anybody know.
02:36Okay.
02:37Like, you can go fuck off.
02:38Yeah.
02:39You know?
02:40But, like, if you're not into trans women and, like, you don't want to film with a trans woman, like, who cares?
02:46Like, they're just not into it, you know?
02:48Like, you're not making—I mean, there's some, like, guy performers that say they do, like, they do gay porn and they're straight.
02:55You know?
02:56Like, I don't get that because, like, I guess I do at some sort of as well.
03:01I kind of get that because, like, I do not like women.
03:04Like, I'm not sexually into women, but I film a lot with women.
03:07But, like, I have to, like, take a lot of dick pills and, like, have, like, porn on the back.
03:13Like, I feel bad for the girl, but they all know.
03:16Like, they know that I'm not into it and it's, like, I'm a lesbian for pay.
03:19Yeah, you know?
03:20I get it.
03:21So I don't know.
03:22I guess it's kind of, like, it depends.
03:25Yeah, I mean, I think there's—sexuality can be, I think, a lot more fluid than people will accept.
03:30Yeah.
03:30And then also there's a lot of shame, especially around men.
03:33Like, you know, having sex with, like, somebody who's not, like, a cis woman.
03:38Like, that's been built into a lot of guys.
03:40Even if they, you know, have interest in that, that, you know, they're shamed for that.
03:46Or even, like, even if they, like, ass play in any shape or form, like, with a cis woman, you know, there's a lot of guys who have, like, issues around that, too.
03:53I think it's especially hard for men, so—
03:57Yeah, I feel like women are a little bit more judgy, to be honest.
04:00Yeah.
04:01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:02No, I think—yeah, I think definitely.
04:04I think, like, you know, women are—I mean, there—I remember, it's definitely changed a lot now, but I remember there was a time that a lot of women in the industry would not work with a guy who'd ever, ever done gay porn.
04:19Even if it was, like, 10 years ago.
04:21Yeah.
04:22Or, like, worked with trans or whatever.
04:25Mm-hmm.
04:25And, you know, sometimes I would book somebody with, like, say, Christian XXX.
04:29Yeah.
04:29Right?
04:30Who worked with a lot of trans.
04:31And then the girl would find out, and then she'd, like, demand that I replace him.
04:35Yeah.
04:36And it's like, well, I can't—I can't tell you who to have sex with, right?
04:39Like, that's a personal choice.
04:41Yeah, no, exactly.
04:42But it's also, like—
04:43Right.
04:44I feel like that's where it helps with the whole yes and no list.
04:47Mm-hmm.
04:47I had more of a yes list than a no list towards the end.
04:50I was just like, I will work with these 10 guys and those 10 guys only.
04:54Yeah.
04:55And then you at least know, like, who you're working with.
04:57Yeah.
04:57And you're comfortable with them, and you have that chemistry.
05:00Right.
05:00And that's always really nice.
05:01And that's kind of the thing with, like, trans porn, too.
05:03There's literally only, like, 15 guys that, like, are active consistently to do porn, you know?
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