Will Giants move Kayvon Thibodeaux, Dexter Lawrence before NFL's trade deadline?

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00:00The trade deadline is Tuesday.

00:02The Giants are 2-7 and teams are reportedly calling to try and make a deal

00:05for some of the bigger names on the roster.

00:07So is Joe Shane going to be a buyer or is he going to be a seller?

00:11Let's talk with our New York Post NFL writer Ryan Dunleavy

00:14on what he thinks Shane could do at the deadline.

00:18Ryan, thanks for hopping on.

00:192-7, no neighbors, no scataboo,

00:22and their playoff chances get slimmer each week with each loss.

00:26So if you're Joe Shane, let's put your Joe Shane hat on.

00:29Do you answer any calls for trades and who would make the most sense?

00:36Yeah, I mean, I always answer the call, Brandon.

00:38This isn't Dave Gettleman in the 2018 draft

00:41not telling people not to answer the phones.

00:43He's picking Zayquan Barkley.

00:44You always answer the phones.

00:47What makes the most sense?

00:49Probably staying pat, maybe trading away.

00:52If you have anybody that would take Jalen Hyatt or Evan Neal

00:57for like a late round pick or a pick swap,

01:00getting those guys off the team just for the sake of vibes

01:03probably makes the most sense.

01:05There's a lot of buzz about a lot of bigger things coming and going.

01:08I'm not sure any of that makes sense,

01:10especially if I'm owner and I have to approve this stuff

01:14with people that I'm not sure I want around next season.

01:17Who are some of those big names that you think could be dealt

01:20or that you may have heard have been reportedly checked on?

01:25Yeah, there's definitely people calling the Giants

01:27about Kayvon Thibodeau and Dexter Lawrence.

01:29Like that definitely happens.

01:31Dexter Lawrence made it clear yesterday

01:33that he doesn't want to go anywhere.

01:36Kayvon Thibodeau made it clear yesterday

01:37he doesn't want to go anywhere.

01:39I think those are admirable takes

01:40because look, the clock is ticking on careers, right?

01:44And the Giants have done nothing but lose

01:47since Kayvon and Dexter got here

01:50except that one year where they had a playoff win.

01:53But guys are in their primes.

01:55They don't want to waste them losing.

01:57And those two guys said they want to stay.

01:59Dexter Lawrence, I would think the Giants

02:01would want a first round pick for him.

02:03He's not playing at a first round pick trade caliber level.

02:07So that complicates it.

02:08Kayvon Thibodeau, the Athletic reported

02:11that the Giants want a first round pick.

02:13There's no chance anybody's giving that up

02:15for Kayvon Thibodeau.

02:17Thibodeau is under contract for next year.

02:19Dex is under contract for a few years.

02:21If Dex plays well, it's at a bargain rate.

02:23At the way he's playing right now,

02:27it's not a good contract for Dex.

02:28So you got to figure out who Dex is.

02:30And then Kayvon, you got to figure out

02:32if you're going to be able to resign him after the season

02:34because you only have one more year.

02:35And my gut tells me

02:37those could be some pretty tense contract talks, Brandon.

02:41Do you think Joe Shane becomes a buyer

02:45before the deadline?

02:46Like, especially with the team thin

02:48at the receiver position and in the secondary?

02:51I mean, I think it's very possible.

02:53I mean, I think back to when Dave Gettleman

02:55traded for Leonard Williams in 2019,

02:59I think it was when he was coming up on free agency.

03:02And he just saw a good value for the player.

03:05And the Giants were going nowhere that year.

03:09They were probably two and seven around that time,

03:11just like they are now.

03:13It ended up being a good move for the Giants,

03:15but they gave Leonard Williams

03:17all the negotiating leverage.

03:19And that ended up biting them in the butt.

03:21The Giants could do it.

03:22I mean, they could go out

03:23and make a trade for a receiver.

03:25And I understand the logic would be

03:28to get somebody under contract

03:30beyond just this year

03:31who can help Jackson Dart

03:32accelerate his development

03:33and then be a number two receiver

03:35for him going forward

03:38to pair with Malik Neighbors.

03:40I would have, if that was my thinking,

03:42I would have done it three weeks ago

03:43when I wrote it for the post

03:45and said they should do it

03:46when they were two and four.

03:47Now they're two and seven.

03:50It just kind of wipes out

03:51all the buzz of this year.

03:53They're giving up a top 40 pick,

03:55which is what their second round pick

03:56probably will be.

03:57It just seems like a lot to give up for a team.

04:00You just don't see two and seven teams

04:02that are buyers very often for a reason.

04:04You're usually trying to collect draft picks.

04:07All right.

04:07Ryan Dunleavy, thanks for the update, man.

04:09We'll be talking to you soon.

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