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00:00The New York Jets start the season 0-6 after a brutal, ugly loss to the Denver Broncos in London, 13-11.
00:08This is the Gangs All Here, post-game live show. I'm Ryan Sampson. That's my guy, Frankie Vittorini from U Stadium.
00:14Frankie, I'll start off right now. Just your initial thoughts. The Jets in a brutal, brutal game.
00:19Couldn't get anything going offensively. I'll start with the offense here, but let's start with that final drive.
00:23The Jets had a chance at the end to win the game and kick a field goal after getting great field position,
00:29after forcing the punt, and they can't get anything going. The drive almost starts in disaster when the ball gets snapped.
00:36Fields has the fumble. Brees picks it up. Gets actually a nice chunk yardage of game.
00:40Then they have a nice run. They get a first down, but then Fields is sacked on first down.
00:45They call a passing play. And then another play they throw to Garrett Wilson on second and 15.
00:49And then they have an incompletion to Garrett Wilson, who he had wide open on the left sideline.
00:53Throws late to him. Garrett's pretty banged up. Garrett can't complete the catch. It was a tough play.
00:57And then they get sacked on the fourth down and eight at the Denver 44. Felt like they could have
01:03kicked the field goal there. I would have kicked a field goal. Your reaction?
01:08I would have kicked a field goal too. Absolutely. Go for that 62 yard field goal. What are you putting
01:12Fields back out there for? To get sacked again? Seriously. Justin Fields was sacked nine times today.
01:19The Jets offense had negative 10 passing yards as a whole. Negative 10 passing yards.
01:24Insane. In today's modern NFL. Today's modern NFL. Negative 10 passing yards. He had as many
01:29completions as he was sacked. You're not winning in the NFL playing that kind of brand of football.
01:36It is pathetic at this point because when the defense plays probably their best game of the year,
01:42the offense plays their worst game of the year. And that's exactly what this Jets team is.
01:47They are just a bad football team. There's no cohesion. They're 0-6.
01:51They should have won today's game. I mean, like it was basically put out there. Denver did nothing in
01:57that second half and the Jets just came out and they just, uh, they, they can't put drives together
02:03when it's needed. They don't know how to utilize, uh, timeouts. They don't really know what's going
02:10on when it comes to play calling on both sides of the ball. It seems like when a team needs a big
02:15drive, they're going to get it. When we need a big drive, we don't get it. On that last drive,
02:19by the way, we were talking about this after Brees Hall had that 12 yard, uh, run and you ran it
02:26with Brees again, right? I I'm not throwing the ball there. So that last sequence, you had the
02:32Justin Fields fumble. It was kind of a bad snap. Brees gets 12 yards. Then you give it to Brees for
02:37four yards, right? It's second and three. Yep. You come back out. That was a first down. You come back
02:44out and Fields is throwing the ball. Like don't throw the ball there. He sacked for minus five
02:50yards. Then Fields hits Garrett Wilson for seven yards. And then you have that lasting completion
02:57before the inevitable Justin Fields getting sacked for negative 12 yards and the, and the game's over
03:02Ryan, this coaching staff looks really bad after this game. Now you're going to have people coming
03:08out and saying, Oh, well, uh, this is another moral victory that some fans are going to come
03:14out with and say, Oh, they played really good at times. They could have won the game. The defense
03:18looked really good. You got to win a football game like this. That's it. You have to win. You
03:24haven't won a game yet. Denver was terrible in that second half. Terrible.
03:29What does this team expect? You're not going to have performances from teams like that, that are
03:36literally Denver came out and they put it on, on, on, on the platter here. Here you go. Here,
03:43here's the game. Take it, please. Sean Payton. Maybe wanted Aaron to win his first game. Please take
03:48it. And we, we, we can't, we can't, we don't even try to know if it certainly felt like a trap game
03:54for the Broncos. They were, they were dead and hung over in this game for most of the, most of the
03:58game. I mean, the jets held Bo Nix without any passing yards to the fourth quarter, uh, in the
04:04second half. So the just defense, I think responded really well, but starting with Frankie and what
04:09he's saying about the coaching staff and this offense, it has regressed and it's gotten worse.
04:14Frankie, they didn't score a touchdown at all today. They had negative passing yards. This offense
04:20was brutal the entire game. How about the first half, the first half, the jets could refuse to
04:28use Justin Fields as a runner. And it put themselves in a situation of making him throw the ball. And
04:33what Frankie is saying at the end there, where they're throwing the ball, it was a bad choice
04:38by Tanner Angstra and Aaron Glenn to put the ball in Justin Fields hands at the end of the game.
04:42And you can't call this as a coach and say, well, he has to be our quarterback and he has to win
04:47us the football game. No, you had a special chance here today to actually win a football game.
04:52Special teams and defense were outstanding today for the jets and gave them a real chance to win
04:57this football game when the offense did absolutely nothing. In fact, they were negatives and you
05:01didn't coach around your biggest weakness today, which was Justin Fields who was holding the ball too
05:06long, was not processing the defense at all or the coverages and just refused. I've never seen a
05:12quarterback refuse to throw the football. It's almost like he had the yips out there, Frankie,
05:17because he didn't want to make a mistake with the, with the throw. So there became a point in time
05:23where you as a coaching staff should have recognized that and said, let's just run the ball. Like you
05:27said, especially in that last drive. And again, I would have kicked the field goal there. Even if it
05:31was a 60 plus yarder, I'd rather my most reliable offensive threat, which right now is Nick Falk.
05:37And all I need is a field goal to win this football game. I'd rather kick the field goal
05:42and take the chance with that kick over putting the ball in Justin Fields hands, who clearly is not
05:48a competent quarterback right now. And he can't even throw the football downfield. This jets offense
05:53is going backwards. And there's a point in time where you as a fan right now have to say,
05:58what the hell are we doing with Justin Fields? And can they continue to run him out there every
06:03single week? Everything Frankie said in the off season before Justin Fields was announced as a
06:08starter or when he was announced as a starter and was announced as a starting quarterback for the
06:10jets, he's coming to fruition. This jets team looks like they are dead in the water right now with
06:15Justin Fields as his quarterback. Perfectly said, Ryan. And listen, that last play, that fourth and
06:21eight, Justin Fields hadn't complete, had only completed one ball over eight yards all game,
06:26all game. That was to Josh Reynolds, who by the way, led the team in receiving with 25 yards receiving
06:31the next highest receiver was Garrett Wilson with 13. Mason Taylor was targeted once today for two
06:38yards. Garrett Wilson was targeted eight times today for 13 yards. What a pathetic performance
06:44by that passing offense. And I'll say this. If they were serious about winning this game,
06:49I wasn't on the bring Tyrod Taylor in train. I liked what they were doing with the read option in the
06:54second half. Finally, finally. Exactly. Yeah. Which they refused to do in the first half for whatever
06:58reason you saw the offense sort of move a bit when that factored in, but man, at some point,
07:05you got to make a tough decision when you're passing offense is looking that bad. Maybe you bring Tyrod
07:11Taylor in. I'm even talking the last couple of drives. Like maybe you just say, we cannot have
07:16this kid out there because he's not going to be able to move the ball down the field and get us in
07:20range to kick a field goal. Clearly wasn't able to there. This kid, Justin Fields cannot be a starting
07:28NFL quarterback right now. I am sorry to say it. I'm not trying to be a jerk about it. He is not an
07:34NFL quarterback because he cannot go through his reads and get the ball out. That's it. He cannot.
07:40If you tell him, Hey, Justin, you're going to hit Garrett on this comeback, or Hey, you're going to
07:44hit, uh, you know, your tight end across the middle on a crossing route or, or, you know, in this out
07:49or something's predetermined fields can play, but the NFL is on a predetermined league and you're going
07:55to throw him out there. The last play of the game on a fourth and eight with the way that rush was
08:00getting after him all game. And you're going to expect him to pick up a first down there. You,
08:04you, you gave them the game at that point. Try to try the 62 yarder. Look, you can't have a
08:10quarterback in the NFL that can't throw the football. I'm sorry. You just can't have, you
08:13can't play, you can't play offense in the NFL without a quarterback. They can't throw the football.
08:17Listen to this, Frankie, nine of 17 for 45 yards, passing negative 10 total for the team as a team.
08:25And then this is the best part. And they almost won the game and they almost won the football game
08:30per ESPN research at Justin Fields today, nine completions. He was sat nine times. He had
08:36passing yards of 55, uh, 45 today, but sat 55 times, which led to the negative 10 yards.
08:44Think about that. Think about what I'm saying right now. Nine completions, nine sacks, 45 yards,
08:50passing 55 yards in sacks. They had negative 10 passing yards because this quarterback refused to
08:56throw the football and can't throw the football. So this is Aaron Glenn now has to answer these
09:01questions. And Tanner Angstrand has to answer these questions about what exactly is your game plan here
09:06on offense? Because I'm seeing tweets right now from someone who I respect big time, Mark Cannizzaro,
09:11who's been around the jets for over 20 plus years. And he's been covering the football cover,
09:15covering the NFL and the jets for a long time. He said, quote, this is one of the worst offensive
09:20coaching jibes I've ever seen on the part of the jets and the worst quarterback performance I've
09:25ever seen. Frankie, is that the worst quarterback performance you've ever seen by a jets quarterback?
09:30That's saying a lot. I remember that game in Arizona when we played Arizona, I forget who the
09:35quarterbacks were. My brain's not working, but I remember it was a game sort of like this,
09:39uh, from our offense. It's one of the worst games I've ever seen from a quarterback here.
09:43Definitely. I mean, this is like, if you're playing quarterback Ryan and you have to go out
09:50there, take it easy, like don't diss me that bad. But, um, yeah, man, I mean, this is as bad as,
09:57as you'll see. I don't know if it's the worst I've ever seen. I've seen some bad quarterback
10:00performances with the jets. I mean, I've seen games where, um, you're, you're rather running back
10:06almost play back there and you you're calling for, you know, Spirano to run the wildcat all
10:10game. But, um, this was close to it. Yeah, this is really bad. And the worst part about this was
10:15the, the, the way the sacks were taken. This isn't like you were like Dak when we had a sack
10:21last week, but it was cause he slid and it was for a minus, you know, one yard or like fields was
10:25like stepping up in the pocket and just happened to take a sack for a few yards. Basically eight out
10:29of those nine sacks were like him dropping deep into the pocket and really losing yards. I mean,
10:34those are drive killers. That's why this team again, wasn't able to really, they weren't able
10:38to score a touchdown again. They weren't able to do anything again. Um, man, Garrett's Garrett's
10:45going to be pissed off. Patrick Sertan getting his number again, but Ryan on more important, um, in,
10:51in, in more important things. Um, what about the coaching staff? What about Aaron Glenn? I mean,
10:57let's talk about that halftime. Yeah. So, so let's get into it. So the jets in the first half,
11:03didn't run the read option at all with Justin Fields. They didn't target Garrett Wilson to
11:07almost halftime yet again. So they didn't get a first down to what two minutes left in the first
11:13half, Frankie. I think it was that final drive in the first, first half. So the jets offense can't
11:18get anything going in the past game, run game, nothing. They refusing to use their quarterback's
11:22legs, even though he can't throw the football and you should have seen it within the first three
11:26drives or two drives should have told you, you know what? Our quarterback might have the yips
11:30and we might have to run the ball to get some actual offense going. Instead, you don't go to
11:34the run. You abandon the run. You try to make long developing passing plays with your quarterback
11:39who can't process, can't throw the ball downfield, doesn't read defense as well. And then you end up
11:44getting him sacked a bunch of times. Your offense gets no protection for him. But then again, if
11:49they're asked to pass block for four, five, six seconds, and he can't get the ball out of his
11:53hands, what's an offensive line supposed to do? There's only so much they can do in protection of
11:57him. The end of the first half, the jets are down 10, six, they get the ball and they force
12:04to a fourth and one. And they're in their own 35 yard line, I believe, or 36 yard line. We possibly
12:10even the 40, they choose to go for it on the fake punt on their 37, 37 yard line. They go for the
12:16fake punt on fourth and one. They get the fourth and one, which no one saw because NFL networks got
12:22awful with these camera angles. You can't even tell where Brees Hall and the replays didn't show anything
12:27either. If you got the first down. So we're just supposed to go off of ref says first down. It's
12:31a first down. Great. So we go for it. I'm fourth to one. It's like, okay, you know what? The jets
12:35offense has been getting lucky because two field goals came from a turnover and a great kick return.
12:40Maybe they can get something going offensively. Kurt Warner is begging them to throw the ball downfield.
12:44They can't get anything going. And what do they do? Frankie, what do they do? They play conservative
12:50and run the clock out and don't even try to go down the field and score at least a field goal.
12:55At that point. Instead, they go into halftime saying, you know what? We're done. After you
13:00just went for it on fourth and one. Yeah. What is, what is, what is the, what is the call here?
13:05What is the game plan? Where's the coach head coach, Aaron Glenn saying, guys, we need to be more
13:10aggressive here. Let's go tempo. We need to get a score. Instead, instead you risked going for it on
13:16fourth and one in your own possession, in your own side of the field to give the ball back to the
13:20Broncos. If you don't get it, you get it. And then you play conservative and don't do anything
13:25with the ball. That is mind numbing. That is incredibly conservative. And that's not where
13:31this NFL game is right now. That to me is a big concern that Aaron Glenn is one in over his head
13:36and two doesn't know the game plan when he needs to be in critical situations. And that's a lack of
13:43adjustment and a lack of understanding the situation. Those are red flags for me, Frankie, big red flags.
13:48Yeah. I mean, listen, he's running onto the football field. He looks like some crazy high
13:52school head coach out there. And at the end of that sequence, can you throw a bomb into the end
13:58zone of hail Mary? I mean, it looks as bad as it's going to look, but at least with the hail Mary at
14:01the end, you could say, Oh, at least you took a shot. Maybe they throw a flag on, on a hail Mary.
14:06Who knows? They're not even able to manage the clock correctly to get a, an attempt at the end zone.
14:13The clock runs out on them. So you take this big risk because if you don't get Ryan, if they don't get that
14:18fourth and one, Denver's got an easy three and Denver's probably scoring because they only got
14:2237 yards to go. So you take a big risk on that fourth and one. Cool. Great. Now you're going
14:28to play what conservative, like you're saying, just to run the clock out. They hit the ball off
14:33the breeze hall. That very next play after they convert to four yards left on the clock. Mind you
14:39one minute left. It doesn't. And, and, and that's why there's no point of going for it on that fourth
14:44and one with the risk of you not getting it. If you're not looking to score, they didn't even have
14:49an opportunity to. And again, this passing offense has yet to target any receiver down the field since
14:57week one, we are not allowing this quarterback to throw the ball down the field. And it is a shame.
15:04It's pathetic. They don't even allow him to do it before the first half and the clock's running out.
15:08There's no downside. They're not going to, if they return a hail Mary, if they return a hail Mary
15:14interception in the end zone for a touchdown, uh, close up shop, literally sell the team. I doubt
15:21it's going to happen. They don't even allow him to do that. This team cannot move forward with this
15:27quarterback. I'm not saying for this year, let him play out the year. I really don't care about this
15:31year, but they cannot have this kid in their eyes as being any option moving forward. He's
15:37severely limited as a passer. The offensive coordinator is playing football in a remedial
15:44sense. It's a remedial offense. He's handcuffed with this guy and he's not really doing anything
15:49to help him. Also. I mean, like you said, we didn't run the read option and start the game.
15:54That should have been part of the game plan. How about that? How about that? You have one of the
15:57most athletic quarterbacks in the NFL, one of the most athletic. I am not doubting Justin Fields talent.
16:01He is a super athlete and he can run the ball better than any quarterback. I could argue
16:04better than Lamar Jackson. He is a freak, but they don't run the read option at all with the threat
16:10of the run as your quarterback. Think about that defensively. Frankie, if you're trying to
16:14schematically figure out how I'm going to stop this offense, right? You're thinking about one,
16:18one-on-one thing, right? Running the ball. The jets are going to try and run the ball against us.
16:22So we prepare for that. And the threat of the run, if I'm a defensive end or an outside linebacker
16:27or a pass rusher with Justin Fields gets me scared because if I lose contain, then I'm going to allow
16:33an explosive play when he goes and bust one for 40 yards. But instead, Tanner Engstrand handcuffed
16:38himself like you just eloquently said. He handcuffed himself by putting Justin Fields in the pocket and
16:45making him a passer. That was not knowing your personnel. And that's something I told you during
16:50the game in our text message conversation. I said, you have to know your personnel as an offensive
16:55coordinator, KYP. If you don't know your personnel, you don't know how to call a game. And clearly
17:01Tanner Engstrand is just calling plays off a sheet right now. And he doesn't have feel, feel that we
17:07desperately want from a head coach and from an offensive coordinator, feel out the game. If your
17:12quarterback is struggling to throw the ball in the first two, first two series, you need to start
17:17asking yourselves, can we drop screen passes? Can we get easy completions to him? Can we target Garrett
17:22Wilson? Can we make this easier on him? Because right now this is too much. Clearly the speed of
17:28the pass rush was getting to him. He was feeling some kind of pressure on wherever it was, whether
17:33it was inside or outside the pocket. And he was staring at wide open receivers, not throwing the
17:38ball. When he refused to throw the ball in the second half to Mason Taylor in the fourth quarter
17:42or the third quarter, I believe on the slant on the, on the flat. Yeah. Took the sack.
17:48That right there is concerning and alarming. You have to figure out how to make something happen
17:54with this offense. You chose Justin Fields. Correct me if I'm wrong, Frankie, Aaron Glenn,
18:00Darren Mugey, Tanner Engstrand. They all signed up for Justin Fields. You knew what his deficiencies
18:04were in the off season as a quarterback that couldn't process. Well, didn't was holding the ball too long,
18:10took too many sacks, took too many hits, and ultimately wasn't an accurate quarterback.
18:14You signed up for that. That is what the Jets signed up for. So do not be surprised when you
18:19go games like this, where you did nothing offensively, your defense and special teams
18:24gave you a chance to win this game. The Broncos nearly handed you the game, but you came up short.
18:30Don't be surprised when you get questioned in the post game. Why did you choose Justin Fields
18:34as your quarterback? Because that tape is going to be ugly tonight when you watch it.
18:40Yeah. And Justin Fields for the last couple of years of his career, maybe since he's been in the
18:44league, he's just afraid to throw the ball and maybe that ball get intercepted. He plays the
18:49quarterback position. Like he's shell shocked. He does not throw interceptions. He does not throw
18:54interceptions. He didn't throw one today. He threw one last year in Pittsburgh when they were four and
18:58two. That's not good enough, man. It's okay. Throw the ball down the field, please. I want him
19:04to throw an interception for, for his sake. Cause he doesn't want to, he stares, he stares,
19:09he stares. And to your point, they needed for some reason, they didn't come out and want to run
19:15the read option. They needed to, to start the game. They needed to in the first half. Now,
19:19why is that? Maybe because Fields has this concussion that he's recovering from. Maybe
19:24Brees Hall, who in the off season said he doesn't like the read option. Maybe he doesn't want to run it.
19:28Who knows what the reasons Tanner doesn't like to run it. He didn't run it in Detroit. You think
19:32they were running read options with Jared Goff, Justin Fields outside of concussions,
19:36a concussion he had, he doesn't want to run it because he doesn't really know how to run it.
19:40He's never been used to running it. So they come out and they try to play this sort of
19:44traditional pass pro style of offense, something similar to what Tanner likes to run and what he
19:50was running in Detroit. This guy, ain't the guy to do it. Nope. So, so then they, they go to plan B,
19:56which should have been plan a in the second half. They go to plan B, which is what they did against
20:01Pittsburgh and what they should be doing all year. You're going to, to your point,
20:05you made a great point just now. You're going to slow those defensive linemen down. You're going
20:10to slow the who fangas of the world down when you're running the read option. They can't line
20:15up on the edge and just, uh, you know, fly in, uh, like, like missiles aiming at your quarterback.
20:24I mean, they were, they were flying all over the place. You slow down a defense when you're able
20:29to read option. And for whatever reason, they didn't want to start the game doing that. If they
20:34did, they're probably winning this game, but we got to also give credit to that Denver defense because
20:40those guys were running around the entire day. They were playing with their quote unquote P hot.
20:46You know, I like to use that term, but Ryan, they had a great game overall. Uh, there was,
20:51there was not, I mean, I don't, I know fields wasn't really seeing it, but I don't think the
20:56Denver defense, right. They stopped Reese hall for most of the game. I disagree. They only had 20,
21:01uh, 22 carries for 59 yards, two points. They didn't start running the ball with Brees until
21:06the second half, Frankie. And that's when they finally started getting some going to run over
21:1010 yards, Ryan. I, well, can you blame him when the quarterback's not the threat at the run where
21:15they need to, they couldn't do anything offensively correctly today. And, and also I got some quotes
21:20here from Aaron Glenn. They're going to piss you off even more. Uh, Aaron Glenn said the passing
21:24offense today was quote non-existent and you can't win football games when you don't have the threat
21:28of a pass. So at least he acknowledges that. So figured right, Frankie, right? The thing you do
21:33want to ask him is okay, but Justin Fields was God awful today. In fact, he's, you could argue one of
21:38the worst jets quarterback performances you've ever seen. He was asked if Justin Fields is going to be the
21:42quarterback next week. His response, what kind of question is that? Oh, please. What kind of question is
21:49that? That's a very serious question. That's your quarterback, nine completions and was sacked nine
21:55times. You had negative 10 passing yards. If there's not a question about you should maybe think about
22:01starting a different quarterback here, then you're not being serious as a coach, or you're not being
22:06true. And what you said before the season, that this is actually a tank job this year. If you're
22:11throwing Justin Fields out there, then I think you're truly under the tank tank mode. I think this
22:15offense and everyone's saying, and this coach is trying to say, we're tanking, we're going for the
22:20number one pick. Be honest with that. Don't lie to us and say, this is a competitive team. This is a
22:25hungry team. We had great practice again this week. We're really in this. We can't finish the game at
22:30the end. The Broncos were handing you the game. And I think you befuddled this situation at the end of
22:37the first half by going for it on fourth and one, Aaron Glenn, and then running the ball after that
22:41and not getting the points at before halftime. And then going in as a defensive minded rookie
22:46head coach saying, you know what? We'll only go into halftime down one score instead of going for
22:50actual points. Kurt Warner was blasting you on national TV, a hall of fame quarterback. So take
22:55that Aaron Glenn for people that are criticizing you as a head coach. That's your game management
22:59style. Then in the end of the game, you don't kick the field goal with an actual chance because you
23:04have zero feel for the game. That's the problem I have with Aaron Glenn. He has zero feel Frankie.
23:09You should have known your quarterback was not set to make that throw. And when you had the
23:14opportunity to kick the field goal and take that chance for a 60 yarder, you instead put the ball
23:18back in Justin Fields' hands and he gets sacked. So that's on you. That's on Aaron Glenn. Today's
23:24loss is on Aaron Glenn and Tanner Engstrand for putting Justin Fields in that situation because
23:29they should have known better that Fields was compromised and couldn't throw the ball.
23:33Know your personnel and clearly this coach doesn't know his personnel. It doesn't have a feel for the
23:40game right now. That is a problem. And that to me is where you can actually start criticizing Aaron
23:46Glenn. Yeah, Ryan, this head coach looks like one of the worst head coaches that we've had in probably
23:57team history, which is saying a lot. Um, I hate getting there right now, but there is nothing I'm
24:04looking at that. Um, I'm excited about with this team. There really isn't. They just had a game on
24:10a silver platter. They couldn't win it. They couldn't win week one. They couldn't beat, uh, could have
24:14finished a game against Tampa. They look, they look like an amateur hour team. This guy came from a team
24:21in Detroit and fed us everything that Dan Campbell did there and how things are going to be different.
24:26And I guess today looked a little different at times because we weren't getting penalized every
24:32other play and we look like we were making tackles, but you got to finish the job, man.
24:38You got to finish the job. Life doesn't get easier. It just gets harder when you're constantly
24:43losing football games and all everyone in there knows is losing. You saw Garrett Wilson before the
24:50half go up to go up to, uh, Aaron. And, and I don't, I don't want to take stuff like that out
24:56of context. It happens. It's football guys are aggressive, but Aaron Glenn admitted that they
25:00weren't trying to score at the, at the end of the first half. So why would you go for it? I'm
25:04literally one from your 37. If you don't get it, you're screwed. The game admitted to it in the,
25:08in the media, he says, uh, that's basically we weren't trying to score. Just wanted to keep the
25:12ball away from Denver is basically what he was trying to say. Yeah. Well that's coaching scared.
25:18That's coaching scared. That's the worst freaking thing you could do as a head coach coach scared.
25:25Yup. The big bad wolf is coaching scared that that's what we're getting out of it. The big tough
25:31guy, the guy that came in here and said this, the, uh, this isn't the same old jets. We're built for
25:37this. That guy wants to play tough. Come, comes to press conferences with boxing gloves on. Hey now,
25:45we weren't trying to score. Yeah. So why? So you were going for it on fourth and one,
25:49what to run the clock out. Does any team in that situation ever go for it on fourth and one
25:54to run the clock out? I hate this team. Go for it. You know what you do? You go for it. I'll tell
26:01you what I would do. I am far, far away from ever being an NFL head coach or anything involving
26:07coaching. Trust me. Nobody wants me out there. Trust me. But you know what? I do know that if you're,
26:13if you pick up that fourth and one, Ryan, you have what? 50 seconds left, a minute left,
26:18throw the ball down the field. If it gets picked off, it's like a punt anyway. Do we realize that
26:26if it gets picked off, right? Am I right or wrong? You're a hundred percent right. If it gets,
26:32if you throw a deep ball to Garrett Wilson and Patrick Sertan picks it off, which will probably
26:37happen because fields can't throw a spiral, whatever. That's like the same thing as a punt,
26:42but at least you had the opportunity to get a flag or maybe Garrett makes an amazing catch
26:47or maybe fields has a nice throw. Maybe, maybe he needs to throw the ball down the field. Maybe
26:52he doesn't have any touch. Maybe it's good when he wings it a little bit. Maybe he gets that ball
26:56with some air under it. No, no, no. We're going to run the clip. They run it with Brees Hall and
27:01that's on the offensive coordinator too, by the way. Oh, a hundred percent. Who's had a
27:04tender insurance head last couple of games. He's looked bad. You know, I love very bad,
27:08very bad offensive. I'm not going to defend them. He's had some very bad performances.
27:12Tanner Sertan again, zero feel Frankie zero feel for the game. This coaching staff has zero feel
27:17for the game. Uh, Aaron Glenn on, uh, shuts down the question about fields. Will he be starting
27:22quarterback next week? He goes, look, there are guys that have bad games. That doesn't mean you
27:25just bench him. You know, better than that. It's been a steady decline for multiple weeks in here for
27:31this offense. Now, this is something that the narrative that Justin Fields and the passing offense,
27:36they, they, they pile on stats in garbage time. Aaron Glenn refuses to believe in garbage time.
27:41He thinks that's a BS narrative. The bottom line is guys, and this is where I, I, I want to be
27:48careful, but at the same time, I need to, to be honest here. I think we're watching a coach who
27:53is going through it in over his head is making BS narratives is gaslighting the media and doesn't
28:00want to give an honest answer. And I think this has gotten to a point where you were Oh, and six,
28:05you could seriously question if this guy is actually a real head coach in the NFL. And I
28:09think we're starting to find out our answer here, Frankie, where I don't think he's a viable head
28:12coach. I don't want to call for the firing. Cause that's ridiculous. Let him finish out the season,
28:18but we are looking at, and I am not kidding you. We are looking at a brutal season where this coach
28:24could be looking at a one and done here with the New York jets because of how bad this is.
28:29This guy is botching every answer, every situation, every, I mean, Frankie fourth quarter.
28:37How about this? You got less than your, your, you get the ball and you're calling timeouts
28:43with three minutes to go and punt the ball to them, punt the ball where you could have used that extra
28:49timeout in that final drive, or you could have used that extra timeout to stop the Broncos
28:55from running the play on the clock out. This guy has zero feel for the game. I'm, I'm hoping he,
29:03he turns it around. I really am. Can I explain something? Yeah, go ahead. No, really quick.
29:08Let's put this into context a little bit regarding the players on the field today, right? We got some
29:13good players on the field. We do. Brie saw a good player. Very, very good player. Um, Jamie and
29:19Sherwood as much hate as he was getting played really well today for the, for the most part flying all
29:23over the field. Uh, sauce Gardner. You didn't hear him much played pretty good today. Yeah,
29:29he did Sutton to one catch today. That's it. Jermaine Johnson played awesome today. Yep. Great
29:35having him back Jarvis Brownlee jr. Unreal. First game with the jets. The Jets defense was outstanding
29:41people. That's a, not a, that's not a terrible offensive. They, they shut down. That was a good
29:46offense. They held in check all day today. Yup. Kiko Kiko. Malwa. Yeah. Malagoa. Mafunga or
29:53whatever his name is. No, no, no. On our team. Yeah. I'm sorry. Whatever it is. Whatever. I struggle
29:59with those, uh, uh, those names, um, played really well today. Yeah, they did. Well, played well. Uh,
30:06Malachi Moore had some place today. Will McDonald had some nice place today. Yeah. The defense
30:12stopped Michael Clemens, Michael Clemens. You know what? I'll admit it. I hate Michael Clemens,
30:17but you know what? He had a good game today. He had a really good game today. They got two,
30:22two holding calls on him. Huge ones. One was a safety put us up 11, 10 by one of the best
30:26tackles in football and Garrett bowls. Now with that said, do you know what the jets do?
30:33Their coaching staff lets the players down. That's the issue. Your coaches today let you
30:42down. You were out coached again. And this team, I cannot remember Ryan, the last time this team
30:50put together a game where I'm like, Oh, they clearly out coached their opponent. And if there is one,
30:56there's 20 after and before that, that we were out coached in this coaching staff, let these players
31:02down today, because these players had the game today. It could have been a quarterback decision.
31:07It could have been a play calling. Uh, you know, it could have been differences in play calling in
31:12the first half. It could have been decisions before the half. It could have been decisions in the second
31:16half. It could have been a decision at the end of the game to go and kick a 62 yard field goal
31:21because your quarterback isn't converting a fourth and eight. But like always, our coaches have their heads
31:29up their rear ends and you get another L and you're Owen six. So I don't know that I thought we
31:38were going to win the game. Yeah. We, I thought so too. Yeah. Denver was handing the game in that
31:43direction. Denver was giving the jets a prime opportunity to get their first win of the season.
31:48And I mean that wholeheartedly the jets outplayed them in defensive and special teams. They forced the
31:54turnover early, Frankie, their first turnover this season. They got one. Uh, they, they got great returns.
31:59I thought today, but in Guamu on the kick return. And I think Williams had some nice plays in the
32:02return game. They were playing better. They were playing better in those two phases of the game,
32:07but offensively you played right into the Denver Broncos defense where you called a game plan to
32:13put Justin Fields as a pocket passer. You didn't call read options with him as a threat, as a runner
32:17until the second half, which was too late already at that point. And your offense couldn't get anything
32:22going. And then you tried to, to, I don't know what that was at the end of the first half where you
32:26said, I'm not trying to score there. I'm just trying to keep the ball away from the Broncos.
32:30That's literally you admitting you're coaching scared. That's what Aaron Glenn's doing people.
32:34He's coaching scared. And I, and he'll never admit that he'll never like, like, and that's where I,
32:39I as a fan and the media should call him out and be like, listen, dude, we're seeing it as it is.
32:44You're not coaching this game. You're not coaching this game to win like that. That's what it looks
32:48like right now. And you're blowing these chances. So I don't have much else to say, Frankie.
32:53I got to be honest with you. I think we should try and be positive here a little bit, which is hard
32:57to say because they're Owen six. Aaron Glenn is the worst start ever as a rookie head coach in
33:01Jets history. They finally got their first turnover today, but we have to hand out flowers to someone.
33:08I'll start with you, Frankie. Who are you handing flowers out to today? I know I have mine.
33:12You know what, man? I'm going to hand out my flowers to Jermaine Johnson. I think I took your guy.
33:16Did I? No, no, no, you didn't. All right. I'm going to give it to Jermaine Johnson. I just think
33:20having him back on the field just makes everything look better, makes things more cohesive. You see
33:25us playing the run better. You see there's more energy on defense. He's a leader out there,
33:30Jermaine Johnson. So you see the guys playing a lot better up front behind him, sideline to sideline.
33:36So I'm giving my flowers to Jermaine Johnson. It's nice to see him out there. I love when he plays.
33:40I don't think he's some generational talent or something at edge, but he's a quality football
33:46player. And the more Jermaine Johnson you have on your team, the better you'll perform as a whole.
33:52So flowers, Jermaine. I like that pick a lot. That's really good. Jermaine was awesome today.
33:58You could tell how much better this defensive pass rush was and just defense as a whole,
34:01they played more hungry. I'm going to go with the guy on the back end for there to go with
34:04Jermaine on the defense. Jarvis Brownlee Jr. How about him today? Punched the ball out to force
34:10the fumble, took on a double team on a wide receiver screen, blew up that play. He shot on
34:15the member. It was actually the first time that any offense was in the red zone. Shot up on the
34:21run play, made the loss for tackle on J.K. Dobbins. I think Jarvis Brownlee Jr. actually brings juice and
34:27energy to this defense, brings a nastiness, a toughness that they've needed. Sherwood played
34:32really well today, I think overall. I got to give credit to Jarvis Brownlee though. I think he helps
34:37these other guys feed off his energy. You could tell they were playing faster. They were playing
34:42more confident. Did they get bailed out in the first half by a couple bad penalties? Absolutely.
34:46But the second half, you have to give credit to a defense that shut them down in the second half
34:50and your offense really put them in a bad situation because they weren't putting any long sustainable
34:54drives. The Jets defense had to continue to go out there and make stops, which is nothing new for
34:58this team. Let's be honest, where this defense has to bail out the offense because of how inept it's
35:02been. So those are two good picks for the, uh, giving our flowers out. Final thoughts,
35:06Frankie on Justin Fields. Uh, is there actual credible reason for the Jets to actually consider
35:11changing the quarterback? A lot of people are saying, listen, this is not, this was on Justin
35:15Fields. He's afraid to throw the football. It doesn't look great right now. Um, and the Aaron
35:20Glenn's answers are no better. So if you're running this team, are you making the change of quarterback
35:25next week? I'm not, but you know what I'm doing? I'm completely changing the approach next week.
35:31I'm going to Justin this week. I'm going to say, Hey, we're going to change up the approach
35:34next week. We're going to have you throw the football down the field a bunch and see if
35:38you can do it. So I would go the next two or three games and I would just let him throw
35:41the ball down the field. I'm talking 15, 20, 30 yards down the field. I'm going to, if
35:46he can't do that, if he doesn't throw it, that's the problem. Then take sacks and you
35:51might get another. He didn't, he didn't throw it. He took sacks. Well, he's got nine of them.
35:56Well, Ryan, if you, Ryan, if you want to see what you got in this kid, which we're starting
36:00to figure it out now that there's no possible way to know already. Yeah. We guaranteed him
36:04what? $30 million. There's no possible way. This team is going to go into next season with
36:08Justin as your starter. If you really want to put a bow on it, or you want to put the
36:12cherry on top as to that decision being made, I would literally go out next week and just
36:17have him try to throw the ball all over the earth, force him to tell him you have to throw
36:20the ball down the field. You have to complete a ball. I don't think he's capable of it.
36:26If he's not, then you have, then you have your answer. I've never seen a quarterback afraid to
36:30throw today. And that's exactly what happened. Well, I also, he held onto the ball, which forces
36:36offensive line to try and block for him longer, which forced all these sacks. I understand Denver
36:42has a good defense, but there's no way we saw it. Mason Taylor was open in the flat. He had Garrett
36:47Wilson open for a first down multiple times. He hit him late on that final drive. Like the guys are
36:54running there open. It's taking him too long to look and read. And he's afraid to throw the
36:59football. If you have a quarterback that's afraid to throw a football and a coach that's afraid to
37:03coach to win, what exactly do we have here? Ryan, this is the thing that I talked to you about
37:10in the off season. You know, I had to bring up an off season point, Ryan, I foresaw something like
37:17this happening, right? Like I looked at Justin Fields and I said, there's going to be a point in the
37:21season. We may, we're probably going to be out of it. And there's no point to continue to put
37:26Justin out there. Now, what's the point of putting Tyrod Taylor out there when he's just a backup
37:31quarterback? There's no upside with Tyrod Taylor. It's not, you put Tyrod out there and he's going
37:36to play so well, they're going to consider starting them. That's why I wanted to draft the quarterback
37:40because if we had Riley Leonard on the roster or Will Howard on the roster or Shador Sanders on the
37:45roster or somebody else on the roster, that's a young quarterback. You can at least throw them out
37:51there and say, Hey, let's try him out. Who knows? Maybe he's a, maybe he's a perennial backup here.
37:56Maybe he's pretty good. Maybe we can go into next season. If we're going to bring in a rookie
37:59and you know, he, he, he could start. You're in a lose, lose right now. You're going to,
38:03they're going to start Justin a hundred percent next week. You saw what Glenn said. And there's
38:08no upside with Justin next year. And there's no upside with Tyrod Taylor because he's getting older.
38:12So he's old, excuse me, not getting older. He is old. He's beat up and old. That that's your
38:18quarterback selection pool right there. They, I doubt they're going to bring up cook,
38:22which makes you, it makes you, but they probably should. It makes you wonder again,
38:27is Aaron Glenn in over his head? I think he is. I think it's clear. Um, and I think,
38:33I hope what he's paying attention. Like, this is what you chose. You chose the hot, the interview
38:3850 different candidates. And this is what you got. This is what your conclusion came to.
38:42Thank you. Jets 30, 13, Mike Tannenbaum really appreciate it. Like this was your recommendation.
38:48You chose to go with Justin Fields. You chose to go with Aaron Glenn. You chose to go with a rookie
38:52GM, a rookie offensive coordinator. Doesn't it seem like, I guess we shouldn't be shocked anymore,
38:58right? We shouldn't be shocked anymore. We shouldn't, but doesn't it seem like Ryan,
39:01if a few moves were made correctly here, one correct move there, one there, one there,
39:06this team could be competitive. They could, they got players. I mean, it's not like this.
39:12This is not like, um, but we say this every year where they have players. And then
39:17we find out really this Jets team really isn't that good. They're not, they're not a good team,
39:22Frankie. No, they're not, but they're also continuous that continually the worst coach
39:26team in football. Like, like that is just an MO. Like no matter what happens, you know,
39:32we're going to be out coached in this particular game. I remember the last time we out coached the
39:36team. I'll give credit to the defense and I'll give credit to the special teams. Those guys showed up
39:40today. That defense, the defense showed up today. Special teams showed up today.
39:45Offense was completely missing because their quarterback was completely inept.
39:48And I don't blame the offensive line. I don't blame the wide receivers. Don't blame the tight
39:51ends. Don't blame the running backs. I blame the quarterback and I blame the offensive coordinator.
39:56And I blame the head coach for not knowing what the hell was going on during the game.
39:59The fact that you admitted that you were trying to keep the ball away from Denver the first half is,
40:03is inexcusable. People were literally making fun of us on social media about what you did there at the
40:10end of the first half. I had people texting me that I haven't heard from in weeks and months
40:13going, what the hell is going on? And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know anymore. I don't think
40:18anyone knows what's going on anymore with the Jets, but the narrative that they're competitive, Frankie
40:22will stay there because Aaron Glenn will tell you this was a one score game and we had a chance at the
40:27end of the game. So we were competitive in this game. But when in actuality that's gaslighting,
40:31because if you look at what really what the product was on field, you had negative 10 passing yards.
40:36No one's going to defend that, but you are. You're the only one that's defending that when that's the
40:41case. And on top of negative 10 passing yards, you were sacked nine times, which obviously plays
40:47into that. You couldn't establish a running game either. So it's not like a negative 10 passing
40:52yards and you were running the football. No, you weren't. You had 31 carries for 92 yards on the
40:58ground of which your quarterback had seven of those carries, three yards a carry. You almost average
41:03under three yards a carry. You were at three. Exactly. So, I mean, this offense looked so bad
41:09today. I mean, this was like reminiscence of, of as bad as a Zach offense or those backup quarterbacks
41:15that we've had in the past, that carousel going on. This was as bad as those guys. And even worse
41:20almost today when your defense played their best game of the season, your offense played their worst
41:25game of the season. And that's, that's the New York Jets in a nutshell for you. There's, there's never
41:31consistency on both sides of the football or an off or on all three levels. And you had a chance to
41:38win the game and, and you know what the theme of today is you had a chance to win the game and you
41:46didn't even try because that last play should have not have been a fourth and eight. Let Justin drop
41:53back again and get killed again. Like fields is going to complete a fourth and eight against that rush
42:00that we spoke about. How is 30 sacks on the year? To your point, to your point, how is anyone not
42:07telling Aaron Glenn coach? What are we doing? Yeah. Go kick the field goal. Kick the field goal. Who
42:11cares if it's 10 yards short? No, one's going to hate you. No, one's going to hate you for kicking
42:14that field goal, man. I just take the chance there. And that's again, a coach coaching scared,
42:19Frankie. And that's what I'll call it and leave it there. Coaches, coaching, scared quarterbacks,
42:22quarterbacks afraid to throw. This is a team during spooky season, Halloween. They're afraid to do
42:27anything right now. Right. And he could see it. You could see it on the field. Luckily,
42:32the defense showed signs today. Luckily, the special teams looks like it turned today and got
42:37better. You had great kicking from, from Nick Folk. You had good returns. Like those are positives.
42:42You can actually take out of this. And I'd be, I'd be proud of that, but the offense was scared and the
42:47head coach was scared and you could see it on the field. That's what the end product was. And that's why
42:51the jets are Owen six right now. The worst team in football. Welcome to the gangs all here. Post game show.
42:56Everyone, we're going to be here all season long. And I know some, so we almost had 300. We have
43:01like chat. Chat was on. We have way more than that. Chat's awesome today. We appreciate all the
43:05comments. I'm reading all of them. You're cracking me up people. Right. Let's stay out. Let's stay
43:09out. No, no, no. I can't do this anymore. I'm going to go watch real football now. Cause that was
43:13not real football today. Uh, we hope all of you enjoy this. We're going to be back next week. Um,
43:18hit that like and subscribe button, the New York post sports YouTube channel. Frankie and I will be
43:22doing this live after every game. Uh, and we all obviously we'll talk to cause tomorrow or
43:26maybe the later this week. Cause you come back from London. Uh, and then we'll do our preview
43:29show next week, but we appreciate all you guys coming on and watching us and be therapy session
43:34for us. Uh, as this team continues to find new lows that Frankie highlights every single
43:38week with me. Um, yeah. And we'll figure out where this team is going next week. All right,
43:43Frankie, Ryan, I really just don't want to do this anymore. Can I switch fan bases? No, what
43:50do I have to do? What are the steps? The team has to stay in London. Hang on. The only
43:55way, okay. I'm down with the team has to completely, if they move their franchise to London, which
44:01I think the NFL wants, then you can abandon them. And I could go to a new team. I don't
44:06have to stay with the Jets. Uh, I don't, we'd have to talk about that. You'd have to, you'd
44:10probably do some ritualistic things to figure out how to do like rooting for the next team.
44:14I'm heavily considerate. I'm a, I'm open to all opportunities, by the way, any team, any,
44:19any team I'll, I'll gladly accept. He's staying a Jets fan right now. I'm joking. I'm joking.
44:25Unfortunately, I, all right, we'll catch you next week, everyone. I'm not saying go Jets
44:28cause they don't deserve it. Oh, and six. Oh boy. We'll see you next week, everyone.
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