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00:00There are three people
00:03Murder?
00:05That said murder
00:06It's a murder
00:07Who can help?
00:08I've lost her energy
00:09Go on
00:10I've lost her
00:11What? What? What was that?
00:15What's the matter?
00:16In the name of the father and the son of the spirit
00:18Amen
00:19You can move on
00:30Is it strange that I've got butterflies?
00:34Like nervous
00:35Kind of tension
00:36Well, it's funny you say that
00:37Because I feel a huge responsibility with this one
00:39Stakes are high
00:40Yeah, I agree
00:41I mean this case is quite unusual
00:43Because the length of time it's been going on for
00:49In this investigation
00:51A celebrity who's been haunted for decades
00:5412 homes in 20 odd years
00:57He's appeared everywhere
01:00There are powerful entities
01:03Hey! Who said that?
01:04What was that?
01:05That will terrify everyone
01:10He was playing a game of cards
01:13And lost his soul to the devil
01:16And the team discover mind-blowing evidence
01:20No! Why?
01:21How are you feeling Ian?
01:30I'm feeling that the spirit or the spirits is more connected to the person than the house
01:37Which does worry me
01:40Although Barry and Jane have read the case notes
01:42Medium Ian relies solely on his psychic abilities
01:46This spirit has a very masculine energy
01:50Ah!
01:51Okay
01:52Sometimes spirits can be difficult to move on, can't they?
01:56Especially if they've formed a connection with a person
01:59Yeah, true
02:00I'm actually quite nervous
02:10Our experts have been called to this five bedroom 18th century farmhouse in rural Cheshire
02:16To investigate an intriguing supernatural case
02:19Well, I'm really excited to find out what you guys find in my home
02:33Because I'm sure you will find something
02:35I'm quite open about my relationship with my ghost
02:40People do think I'm mad, eccentric or a bit potty
02:45I don't care
02:47I am absolutely categorically telling you
02:51I have seen him like I'm seeing you
02:55This is the home of English actress Tina Malone
02:59I'm a devout Catholic
03:03I don't miss mass
03:05But at the same time I have a fascination with the paranormal
03:08With spirits, with the other world
03:10And I know what I have definitively seen
03:16My paranormal experiences started at the age of seven
03:21In the house I lived in in Percy Street in Liverpool
03:27With the appearance of a character
03:30A well-known merchant who'd been dead over 100 years at the time
03:34William James Mackenzie
03:36To me, he's James
03:41I always remember his hand being on my bed
03:44And it was gloved
03:46And he would pull the covers off my bed
03:48Some days he would have his grey face
03:52Some days he would have almost like a skeleton type face
03:55Under the top hat
03:57Other days he would just be the man he was
03:59Twelve homes in 20 odd years
04:02He's appeared everywhere
04:04I moved into this beautiful old home
04:08Nine weeks ago
04:10I guess to an extent to see
04:12If I could lose James, my ghost
04:16Or if he would follow me
04:19When I've had really bad bouts of depression
04:22In the last four or five years
04:23I've had a lot of bad luck
04:25I have blamed him
04:28I want him to help me here, help me life
04:31Stop terrifying me
04:33I'm 60 this year, it's a milestone
04:35And maybe it is time to rid myself of him
04:40So bring it on
04:42Bob, we're here
04:44Bob, we're here
04:46This is our pop tea
04:48Ooh, weird vibes
04:50Mmm, really weird vibes
04:52Hey, good luck
04:54Cheers mate, see you later
04:55While Barry and Jane head off to find out more about the case
05:09Ian goes into the house to discover what entities lie within
05:14Hello?
05:16Hello?
05:17Wow, there's a lot of energy in here
05:29I feel quite sick as soon as I walk into this kitchen area
05:34This is just something taking my breath
05:35I could hear
05:45This deep, throaty male voice
05:49When I was drawn into this room here
05:52Just feels wrong here
05:54Who's in this house?
06:00I could hear faint whispering
06:05So whatever's here does know that I'm here
06:12I can hear something in the distance
06:16Footsteps
06:18Where did they come from?
06:20Hello?
06:21Something is giving me the run around in here
06:35How's the door?
06:37It's upstairs
06:38Let's go
06:42Hello?
06:47Oh, I've got my hearts racing
06:51To find out more about what Tina's been experiencing
06:53and her relationship with her ghost, William James McKenzie,
06:58I've come to meet her good friend, Sarah.
07:01Sarah. Hi.
07:02So, I know that Tina's been affected massively
07:06by something or someone for many, many years now.
07:09Yeah. Can you tell me a little bit about this?
07:11In her 20s, she found a book called Haunted Liverpool.
07:15It was about this guy, James McKenzie,
07:17who haunts the street that Tina grew up on
07:20when she was seven.
07:21And she's since researched what he looks like
07:24and that is who she's seen.
07:26That is incredible.
07:27So, what type of phenomena does she experience?
07:30She's been laying in bed
07:31and he's been physically clawing at a sheet
07:33and pulling it off her.
07:35She'd just be absolutely terrified.
07:37Does she think that it's affecting her
07:39in more than just a physical way?
07:41She believes, you know,
07:43that the look she has is impacted by this spirit as well.
07:47So, it's gotten a sort of attachment to her.
07:51Attachment?
07:52Mm.
07:52So, it follows around.
07:53She'll look over her shoulder
07:54and she'll, you know, see a shadow.
07:57It's quite scary.
07:59How has this affected Tina over the many years?
08:03I know she still sleeps with a nightlight on.
08:06Every night?
08:07Every night.
08:07She'll go to sleep with a telly on,
08:09nightlights on, everything.
08:11Wow.
08:12She's absolutely petrified.
08:13It's really tormented her.
08:15So, if we can't help Tina,
08:18what's going to happen?
08:19I've got no idea.
08:21This is critical.
08:22You know, she can't run from it.
08:24She can't keep moving.
08:26It's almost as if there's no end to this plague.
08:28No, there's not.
08:32Hello?
08:33Hello?
08:33I feel all the time I'm walking around
08:40that there's just something here behind me,
08:42but I can't see it.
08:43I can just feel it.
08:49Why would somebody leave rosary beads on the bed?
08:53And why is there a massive cross on the wall?
08:58That's somebody who's got a really strong faith
09:03or they need a really strong faith.
09:10But it's almost as if this entity is flitting
09:15in and out of this property.
09:18I can't take my eyes off that room.
09:31I feel really nervous about that room.
09:40Wow.
09:40I just got a flash.
09:44An image then.
09:45I'm using something called psychometry.
09:48And psychometry is a way of reading an item
09:52through energy.
09:57It's almost as if somebody's been trapped in this room
10:00and I've struggled to get out.
10:14Something just touched me.
10:16Something just tapped me.
10:18There's definitely an entity here
10:20that's been quite protective
10:23and they're trying to get my attention
10:24so they're aware of this dark entity that I'm feeling
10:29and they're trying to warn me, I think.
10:31I've come just across the field from our celebrity's house
10:43to meet friend and historian Michaela Hume.
10:47It's lovely to see you again, Michaela.
10:49Do you know anything about that property?
10:51As far as grisly stories goes, to be honest,
10:54there haven't really been any.
10:56I haven't been able to find anything that would make me think,
11:00you know, that there is a presence inside the house.
11:02Nothing.
11:03So a bizarre element to this case is around a celebrity believing
11:08that she has had some kind of presence with her since childhood
11:13and she actually discovered that this may be someone called William James McKenzie.
11:19Do you know anything about that?
11:23Yeah.
11:23So I do know quite a bit about McKenzie.
11:26He was born in the 1780s in a place called Nelson in Lancashire
11:30and he made his money first in canals as an engineer
11:34and then later in railways.
11:36And he made quite a bit of money.
11:39I mean, we're talking like 40 odd million pounds worth when he died in today's money.
11:44And he died in 1851.
11:47He was a gambler, right?
11:49So he loved cards.
11:50He loved to gamble.
11:51The myth is he had a card game with the devil
11:55and lost his soul to the devil.
11:59Oh, my God.
12:01That's chilly.
12:03And because of that, he didn't want to be buried in the ground.
12:07So he's buried in this very extravagant pyramid-style tomb.
12:13And he actually thought maybe that if he was buried in the ground,
12:16the devil could take his soul.
12:18Absolutely.
12:19Yeah.
12:20He sat at a table with a winning card hand in his bony fingers.
12:28Yeah.
12:28He decided that's how he was going to be buried, basically.
12:32So McKenzie actually thought he was having the last laugh over Satan.
12:35Absolutely.
12:35Oh, wow.
12:36But it doesn't quite end there.
12:38Right.
12:38Because he wanders round the streets of Liverpool,
12:42the same streets where our celebrity grew up,
12:46because he's not at peace.
12:47Oh, my God.
12:48Yeah.
12:48The ghost of William James Mackenzie still prowls.
12:51Mm.
12:52So as a very little girl,
12:55this energy, this entity, has been with her.
12:59So it does make you wonder if that's the case, if she's correct.
13:03Why on earth would someone like William James Mackenzie do that
13:07or be interested in a child?
13:09Who's in here?
13:18That curtain's moving.
13:19OK.
13:31Are you trying to warn me about something?
13:33I'm ready for an uncomfortable in this house.
13:50I can hear constant shuffling.
13:53That's indicating that there is something following me.
13:56Why can't I sense it?
13:57Why can't I feel it?
13:59That's really frustrating.
14:00I can't see it again.
14:12Now we have more background on the case,
14:15it's time for us to regroup and meet the celebrity who lives here.
14:20You all right?
14:20How are you?
14:20Get on.
14:21Well, I'm confused.
14:23Why?
14:24The house is haunted.
14:25There's a lot going on there.
14:26But there's just this missing link.
14:28There's just something not sitting right with me for some reason
14:30and I don't know what that is.
14:32Well, do you want to know whose house this is?
14:34Hmm?
14:35This is Tina Malone.
14:36Right, OK, the actress.
14:37Yeah.
14:37Oh, wow, OK.
14:38Yeah, yeah.
14:39Hello.
14:39Hello.
14:40Hi, nice to meet you.
14:41Hi, I'm Ian.
14:41Lovely to meet you.
14:42Ian, nice to meet you, Tina.
14:44Barry, nice to meet you.
14:44Barry, nice to meet you.
14:46Are you up for joining us for the first bit, Tina?
14:48Yes, yes, let's go.
14:49Let's make a start.
14:49I'll follow.
14:50OK, thank you.
14:51Sit down.
14:56Thanks, Tina.
14:58Yeah, thank you.
15:02Really funny because I felt this dark presence,
15:05but I also felt this energy that was trying to protect something.
15:10But the bedroom that was active for me
15:12was if you go up the stairs, the far right one.
15:17Really?
15:17Mm.
15:18That was really active.
15:19This is no word of a lie.
15:21Yesterday, I got locked in the room.
15:26Locked in.
15:28And I mean there is no lock on that door.
15:30I ended up screaming.
15:33Well, I'm going to add to that now.
15:34Oh, God.
15:35Because I touched the door
15:36and I tried to read it with psychometry,
15:40which is placing an object in your hand
15:42and trying to read it,
15:43and I felt something negative from that door.
15:46Oh.
15:46I can't believe you said that,
15:48that you was locked in.
15:50Wow.
15:51I'm still quite confused about the case.
15:53And the reason why is because every house you've moved to...
15:56Yeah.
15:56...you've been affected,
15:57you've seen things,
15:58you've experienced things.
15:59Yeah, it has, yeah.
16:01Now, Ian's saying that the house here is haunted.
16:03Mm.
16:04Is it the same spirit attachment?
16:06A couple of things are here,
16:07but the gentleman who was following me around
16:11could be connected with Tina.
16:14Very smart gentleman.
16:15He was a merchant.
16:17He was very tall.
16:18So you have an idea who he is?
16:20I know he is.
16:21Really?
16:22Yeah, he's been with me 53 years.
16:24He's a very famous merchant,
16:27eligible bachelor in Liverpool,
16:29very rich man.
16:30This is William James McKenzie we're talking about,
16:32isn't it, Tina?
16:33William.
16:33And William James McKenzie...
16:35James to me.
16:36James.
16:36I knew him as James.
16:37OK.
16:38And there's a very famous story about him
16:41selling his soul to the devil.
16:43He is now buried out of the ground
16:45in a pyramid in Liverpool.
16:47Really?
16:47Sitting at a table with a deck of cards in his hand.
16:50Why a deck of cards?
16:51Because he was a gambler.
16:53Did you ever play cards as a seven-year-old?
16:57All the time with me, Dad.
16:5987?
17:01All the time.
17:02That's attracted this man to you.
17:04Because that's a memory, isn't it?
17:07That's why he was attracted to you.
17:09We need to try and establish then, don't we,
17:11if he is connected to Tina,
17:14if he's here in this house,
17:16if he was following you, Ian,
17:17and aware of you,
17:18but also what or who else is here as well.
17:21Well, listen, there's a man here now,
17:23to my right.
17:24Yeah.
17:24So let's see who this is.
17:26All right.
17:27Let's use the digital voice recorder
17:28and do some EVP work.
17:30So this is calling out into the ether.
17:32Oh, my.
17:32You're going to ask the questions.
17:35You're kidding me.
17:36Okay.
17:37Okay.
17:39Is that you, William James Mackenzie?
17:43Are you with me again?
17:45And why are you with me?
17:51What do you want from me, James?
17:55Okay.
17:56In recording.
17:58Are you with me again?
18:00And why are you with me?
18:01There was a yes.
18:01Yes.
18:02Yes.
18:03Are you with me again?
18:06Yes.
18:07Yes.
18:07Are you with me?
18:08Oh, fucking hell.
18:13Did that say help me?
18:15Yes.
18:16Yes.
18:16It's fair it did.
18:16Listen.
18:18What do you want from me, James?
18:23Did you sell your soul to the devil?
18:28According.
18:29Did you sell your soul to the devil?
18:38What is all that shuffling?
18:40Where are you?
18:45Oh, my God.
18:46Play it again.
18:47Shuffling cards.
18:57Shuffling cards.
18:59Oh, my God.
19:01Yeah.
19:01Oh, my God.
19:08We've already got some evidence of William James Mackenzie in our spirit triggers.
19:12So, I want to try my dual scryer, a technique which combines ancient methods of talking to
19:19the dead.
19:21All right.
19:22Tina, would you have a seat on that side for me?
19:24Yeah, sure.
19:30So, I'm going to record this.
19:34We've invited our friend Paul, an expert regressionist and hypnotist with experience in spiritual
19:41attachments to join us in the nerve centre.
19:44Hi, Paul.
19:45Hey there, Barry.
19:46Good to see you.
19:47Yeah, good to see you.
19:48Good to see you.
19:48How are you?
19:49Now that William James has made some kind of contact with us, I would like you to speak
19:56to him and ask him if he'll come forward and show himself to you through me.
20:02But I want you to tell me if you start to see any changes in my features.
20:06You might see nothing.
20:07Okay.
20:09Hi, James.
20:11It's Tina.
20:13Would you show yourself to me, please?
20:16I know quite often when people are doing scry and they're actually going to a hypnotic
20:20state.
20:20Yeah.
20:21And whether it's the subconscious mind just creating something or essentially it could
20:25be that you're changing your brainwaves and you're actually tapping into more of the
20:29spiritual aspect.
20:30I sense that's the same.
20:33James?
20:35Oh.
20:37Wow.
20:38What can you see?
20:39It's not you, James.
20:41Okay.
20:42It's all right.
20:45Oh, no.
20:46We're facing Brother James and James.
20:49She is seeing James.
20:52Yeah, she's seeing James.
20:53Yeah, she's seeing James.
20:53Honestly.
20:55Your forehead's like protruding and your eyebrows are really bushy.
21:01Oh, my God.
21:03This is so weird.
21:06Have I changed?
21:08Am I me?
21:09You're you now, but at the very beginning, everything went black and I could literally only see your
21:18eyes.
21:18Do I look like me again now?
21:20Yeah.
21:22How did you change, Leipa?
21:24Yeah.
21:25He was eager to show himself to you and let's see if we can take you back to your childhood.
21:31Good luck, mate.
21:34Good luck.
21:34Thanks.
21:36Now Paul has seen how strong the bond is between Tina and James.
21:40He's going to use his skills to regress Tina back to her first meeting with James.
21:47Close your eyes now.
21:48Close them down.
21:49That's right.
21:49And just allow yourself to relax deeper.
21:52And we're testing for relaxation as well.
21:54Very good.
21:55Allow yourself to relax deeper and deeper and allow my words to soothe you.
22:04Where do you call me?
22:05Hello.
22:06Let's start in.
22:06Yes.
22:07Hi.
22:08Why don't you just go back in time to that time when you first came in contact with James?
22:19He's at the end of my bed.
22:21Sometimes he's just this grey, fat face at the top and thin at the bottom, just like an old man.
22:30And then other nights he just comes and he's like a ghoul.
22:35It changes.
22:36It's not hip.
22:38Every night it's not hip.
22:40What?
22:40What?
22:41Three different faces.
22:43She's got it.
22:44When James is James, he's James.
22:49The other nights when it's the face, it can't be him because it's someone else.
22:55It is taking on the impression of this man.
22:57Masquerading.
22:58This man.
23:00I like the connection with James now to come forward and allow a message to come to you now.
23:05It's his fault because he got them there because he's after him.
23:12Ah.
23:13God, it's the devil.
23:16Well, so they're after William James.
23:19He knows it's the devil and it's his fault that they come.
23:28These other entities are basically the devil's helpers.
23:32Well, he sold his soul, so they're going to want that soul.
23:35They're after James.
23:36Tell me more about that.
23:38Maybe they're also after her.
23:41If they can't let him, they want a substitute.
23:43Yes.
23:44So he's protecting her as well.
23:46Three eyes open.
23:48Alert.
23:50Refreshed.
23:53With the regression over, we head back in to catch up with Tina.
23:58Oh, my God, we were watching that and listening.
24:03That worked really well, didn't it?
24:05Yeah, James has come to me with three faces.
24:10I don't think the two other faces are him.
24:13They're not him.
24:13He's a good guy.
24:15The others are the negative ones that we have to deal with.
24:17Your ordeal for now is over and we will do everything we can to resolve this for you.
24:23But right now, you guys are going to leave us.
24:26We've got a massive job to do.
24:28So thank you.
24:29Good luck.
24:30As Tina leaves us for the night, we know we're not only dealing with James,
24:39but potentially another two spirits sent for his soul.
24:43Wow.
24:45I bring the team to the nerve centre to show them where I've placed the cameras for tonight's investigation.
24:53Spirit triggers was absolutely crazy.
24:55Yeah, it was phenomenal, wasn't it?
24:57That was a really intense experience for Tina, but look at how much information she gave us.
25:02Challenging case in the very old farmhouse.
25:05So I've got eight cameras that I've set up across the building, starting on the ground floor.
25:09Camera number one is located in the dining room where Jane, you carried out that scrying experiment.
25:14I mean, that worked really well really quickly, didn't it?
25:17And I think that shows just how strong a connection William James has with Tina.
25:22Indeed.
25:22The second camera I've placed in the living room where we began spirit triggers.
25:27And we also captured some phenomenal EVPs.
25:30The third fixed infrared camera is on the basement stairs.
25:34Now this is looking down towards the basement.
25:36The fourth camera I've placed down in the basement.
25:39And there's a living room down there, so this has got a good view of that entire room.
25:43The fifth infrared camera is down in the basement, but in the bedroom that's down there.
25:47I've put camera number six upstairs on the landing.
25:53And the seventh fixed camera is in the master bedroom upstairs.
25:57And I felt really strange in there, because there were some rosary beads placed on the bed and that big crucifix on the wall.
26:03I've put the last fixed camera upstairs in the child's bedroom.
26:07Yeah, and that's where I got touched on the shoulder, and I also put my hand on the door to try psychometry.
26:13Well, look, guys, we already know that there are two negative entities that are attached to Tina, but following James around.
26:21Yeah.
26:22I think we should head upstairs and begin this investigation and try to find out who they are, what they are, what they want.
26:29It's a good idea.
26:29Let's go.
26:29We now know we could be dealing with multiple spirits in the house.
26:44Tina's ghost James and two negative beings who we think are here to collect his soul.
26:54This house is really creepy.
26:56It is.
26:56It is really creepy.
26:57It's got a different kind of feel to any others.
26:59Yeah, I agree with you.
27:01We're starting our investigation upstairs, where Ian sends the most activity.
27:08What was that?
27:10I've just heard movement in the area.
27:12I'm going in.
27:13I've got an EMF detector here.
27:14OK.
27:15OK.
27:15The EMF detector is a device that measures any fluctuations spirits may be causing in the surrounding electromagnetic fields.
27:23We're asking for the spirits that were within this house, can you let us know you're here?
27:36Barry, there's a shadow right behind you.
27:44Where?
27:45Where?
27:45I thought it was your shadow.
27:46It's not.
27:49Who's with Barry?
27:53Identify yourself.
27:54Did you just say something?
28:03What?
28:03What was that?
28:04Who said that?
28:04What was that?
28:06What the hell was that?
28:07I just had a spike on the EMF.
28:08Someone said, get out.
28:09There was like a...
28:10No, it was just a growl.
28:11It wasn't.
28:12It was get out.
28:13Did you record that?
28:14Yeah, I'm recording.
28:16Oh, that's just made me go really hard.
28:18That was in here that I came from in that room.
28:21Who's there?
28:24Did you just say something?
28:28What was that?
28:29What was that?
28:30I could hear it before.
28:34What was that?
28:35What does it say?
28:37Get out.
28:38Get out.
28:40In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to tell us your name.
28:46He's whispering.
28:47I wasn't speaking.
28:48Someone was whispering.
28:49Yeah, there were.
28:50No.
28:51No.
28:52Where are you?
28:59We need to know what these entities are.
29:01Yeah.
29:02Do you want to try Necrometer?
29:04Yeah.
29:05Necrometer provides pre-recorded sounds that spirits can manipulate to convey coherent messages.
29:12Okay, it's running.
29:13Where did you come from?
29:17Are you still recording?
29:18I don't know that.
29:19What?
29:19Follower.
29:21Follower?
29:21They're followers.
29:23Yeah.
29:23They're following James.
29:25Follower.
29:26Oh, my God.
29:27Maybe that's what these demons are called, followers, because they're following the spirit
29:31that they're trying to take.
29:32Where are you now?
29:35This confirms that the residual spirits are angry with the entities following Tina, so we
29:42move to the master bedroom to try and communicate with William James using our spirit box, which
29:47scans radio waves to allow spirit to communicate.
29:51That's it.
29:53William, if you can hear me, are you with Tina?
29:55Are you Tina's friend?
30:02Yes.
30:06How can we help you?
30:08We're not really getting a lot from William James, are we?
30:21No.
30:21His energy was very much here when Tina was here, but now it isn't.
30:26I know.
30:27And I think he is protecting Tina.
30:29He'll be with her now.
30:30Well, these followers are trying to take his soul back to him.
30:33Yeah.
30:33Well, they are dark, aren't we?
30:38Hey.
30:39At this time?
30:41Who's ringing?
30:42Have a look at the screen.
30:44Hello.
30:45We are not available now.
30:46Please leave your name and phone number.
30:48Speak for you.
30:49Yeah, then.
30:49We will return your call.
30:53Isn't that weird?
30:54That is weird.
30:56Who would ring at this time?
30:58And again.
30:59What the fuck is going on?
31:02What?
31:02Don't take it right at genuinely.
31:10Do you see your name and phone number after the beep?
31:13If someone's calling at this time and they're calling twice,
31:15they'd leave a message.
31:16Yeah.
31:17Tina's analogue landline allows spirits to use their energy
31:21to communicate using electronic frequencies.
31:25Spirits, if that's you and you're messing with this,
31:27how about you ring the phone again?
31:31Fuck off!
31:35Right, listen.
31:36Get a recorder.
31:37Press record.
31:38Press speakerphone.
31:39Bottom left.
31:39Bottom left.
31:40Hello?
31:49What's your message?
31:50Oh, no!
31:52Shut up!
31:53Shut up!
31:53Why?
31:54Shut up!
31:55Who are you?
31:56What's your name?
31:59I can't listen to that.
32:01Oh, my God.
32:12What the actual fuck was that?
32:15I've never experienced that in my entire life.
32:17That's what I could hear.
32:20What's your message?
32:21Oh, no!
32:24Oh, why?
32:25Shut up!
32:26Who are you?
32:28What's your name?
32:29What's your name?
32:38I'm Billy.
32:39Billy.
32:40I'm Billy.
32:41Is that William?
32:42Well, yeah, exactly.
32:43I'm Billy.
32:44I think that is the most chilling thing I've ever heard.
32:56We've established the entities in this house
32:58are not happy with Tina and her follower spirits.
33:02But that phone call from William James
33:04means he's crying out for help.
33:08It's blowing my mind, Baz.
33:12Why would he call us?
33:13Why would he use the phone?
33:14Do you think he's trying to warn us?
33:16Do you think he's with Tina?
33:20I think he's always with Tina.
33:23Yeah.
33:25It's an old-school form of electronic communication, isn't it?
33:29Spirits are able to manipulate those electronic phone lines.
33:32Telephone calls from the dead.
33:34It's like, it's a distance thing, isn't it?
33:36Mm-hmm.
33:37He's with her.
33:38Yeah.
33:39He'll be looking after her.
33:40He'll be guarding her, won't he?
33:42Protecting her.
33:43We've got to get Tina back, haven't we?
33:46Those two followers, soul collectors,
33:50they're going to be back as well.
33:52Mm-hmm.
33:52We need to act fast because
33:54them followers know we're after them
33:57and they could go get her small army.
34:03Or a legion.
34:04Mm-hmm.
34:05We've just experienced a once-in-a-lifetime phenomenon,
34:15a phone call from the dead.
34:17We now know James is with Tina.
34:20We're bringing her back as it's the only chance
34:22to send James to the light.
34:25But with the evil spirits sure to follow,
34:28we need to try and banish them once and for all.
34:31Hi, Tina.
34:38Hi, Tina.
34:38Hi, Mike.
34:39Thank you for coming back.
34:40Thank you for coming back.
34:41You're welcome.
34:41I think the revelation that
34:44William, James, Mackenzie is attached to you,
34:50those two other negative beings,
34:53ones that showed themselves to you,
34:55they're obviously following him
34:57because they want his soul.
35:00Hence the reason why you're back here,
35:01because you are bringing them back to us.
35:05So who are they or what are they, these things?
35:09We're still very unsure.
35:11All we know is that they're quite demonic.
35:14Whilst you've come back now,
35:16I think the connection with William is stronger.
35:19OK.
35:19See whether we get any responses on this REM pod.
35:22Now, the REM pod radiates its own electromagnetic field.
35:25OK, you have to get very close.
35:30We want William to use this device
35:33to communicate yes, no responses, similar to that.
35:37OK.
35:39Hi, James.
35:41It's Tina.
35:42Are you here?
35:44Yes.
35:48Is somebody else here with you?
35:52That's a yes.
35:55James, are the two negative entities with you, demonic?
36:03Are they evil?
36:06Wow.
36:09I like that.
36:12Are you here with us now?
36:17Answer me, demons.
36:21Whoa.
36:22They're here.
36:28I think they've always been there.
36:30Now I'm really kind of quite scared.
36:33I'm going to use the power of Christ
36:35to get rid of these demonic entities.
36:38I'm going to try and send William James to the light
36:42before these followers can get him.
36:47OK.
36:47In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
36:58I'm calling out to William James Mackenzie
37:03to come forward.
37:06You'll see the light,
37:08but the followers will follow.
37:12I see the followers.
37:22Do you need us, James, to go towards you, please?
37:26James, move towards me, towards the light.
37:29Go towards the light, James.
37:31Go towards the light, James.
37:33On the count of three,
37:37we want you to tell these entities
37:39to leave you alone
37:41and go back where they belong.
37:43We're going one, two, three.
37:45Leave me alone, demons.
37:47There's a father and a son.
37:49Leave me alone.
37:51You're not wanted.
37:55Get the fuck out!
37:58Thank you in the name of the Father,
38:01Son, and the Holy Spirit.
38:02Amen.
38:06God, I'm shaking.
38:10Well done.
38:10God bless you.
38:11It's over.
38:13Oh, God.
38:13You're going to feel different in the morning.
38:17You can blow the candle out.
38:18God bless you all.
38:37As morning breaks,
38:38it's time for Tina to return home once again
38:41so we can fill her in on the rest of our investigation.
38:45Yeah, so...
38:46Good morning.
38:48Good morning, Tina.
38:48Good morning.
38:49Good morning.
38:49How did you sleep?
38:51Like a baby.
38:52Brilliant.
38:52Well, we've got a lot to show you,
38:54so let's crack on, shall we?
38:56We had one of the most mind-blowing experiences,
39:00and I don't say that lightly,
39:02that I've ever had in my career,
39:04and I think these guys will agree.
39:06If you remember,
39:07we all sat in your front room
39:08and we were trying to communicate
39:09with William James McKenzie,
39:12who you felt has been attached to you
39:15ever since the age of seven.
39:16Yeah.
39:16Now, Ian sensed the presence of this male spirit
39:20straight away, didn't you?
39:21Yeah, if you remember,
39:22I felt him to my right-hand side.
39:24Yeah.
39:25And then in my head,
39:26I felt I needed to ask you that question,
39:28whether you'd played cards at the age of seven.
39:30That's why he drew himself to you.
39:33Yeah.
39:33So we knew it was William James
39:35who we was dealing with at this point.
39:38Yeah.
39:39You then left us, didn't you, Tina?
39:41And we continued our investigation.
39:43We head upstairs to the back right room,
39:45as we felt that that'd be a really good area
39:47to try and communicate with those two negative entities.
39:51And at one point, when Barry was in there,
39:54it's almost as if there was a shadow
39:55following Barry's shadow.
40:00Jane and myself and Ian heard what sounded like a growl.
40:04I came running out of that room thinking,
40:06oh, my God, something's going to grab me in the dark.
40:08Jane recorded it, and here's what she got.
40:10Get her, get her, get out.
40:23Which, I mean, it worked,
40:25because it got the guys out of that room.
40:27We began running an application called Necrometer.
40:31It allows spirits to use the word banks
40:34and the phonetics in there to try and communicate with us.
40:37Almost immediately as we started using it,
40:40word came out,
40:41and we recorded straight away this response.
40:45Who sent you?
40:47You said which one?
40:49You said which one?
40:50What?
40:51Follower.
40:52Follower.
40:53Yeah.
40:54Now, we surmised at the time
40:56that the two negative beings
40:59that you visualised in your regression,
41:02I know.
41:04Yes.
41:04And we thought, they are followers.
41:06And I even said, are they like soul collectors?
41:09Mm-hmm.
41:10Like debt collectors,
41:11collecting William's soul.
41:13But we decided to move the investigation
41:14into your master bedroom.
41:16This is where and when,
41:20as a collective team,
41:21we experienced something
41:22that you only read about in books.
41:24Mm-hmm.
41:25And this is the holy grail for me.
41:28In terms of proof of the afterlife
41:31in instrumental transcommunication,
41:33I was blown away.
41:36There's a telephone upstairs in your bedroom.
41:38The phone rang.
41:40The phone rang, which is not abnormal,
41:42because it's a phone.
41:44I answered it, put it up to my ear,
41:45and I could hear static.
41:46I can't express enough to you
41:51how significant this is
41:54in terms of paranormal evidence.
41:57When I was 16, I read about things like this,
42:00and it's the reason I do what I do now.
42:03I'm going to play this for you.
42:07Hello?
42:08Hello?
42:08Can I...
42:14Can we help you?
42:16What's your message?
42:18Oh, no!
42:20Why?
42:21Shut up!
42:22Who are you?
42:31That has never happened before.
42:34I've found that for us.
42:36A ghost used a landline to talk to us,
42:42and it was William.
42:43What is your name, we asked.
42:45Billy.
42:46Yeah.
42:46What is Billy?
42:46Billy's a nickname for William.
42:48He used Billy.
42:50Yeah, which confused us slightly.
42:54Can you just play that Billy part again for us, please?
42:58Oh.
43:00I'm Billy.
43:02Oh.
43:02Oh, goosebumps.
43:07Yeah.
43:08I mean, to say that it left us shocked is an understatement.
43:12How did he ring your phone?
43:14Well...
43:15I don't know the number.
43:19I mean, obviously, it's making you emotional.
43:22It's making me emotional.
43:22It's really weird, isn't it?
43:26Yeah.
43:28So he hasn't been here...
43:30He hasn't been...
43:31He hasn't been here after me, has he?
43:34No.
43:35He's been...
43:36He was that desperate for help.
43:38He was desperate.
43:40So for us, Tina, it was to rescue you, as well as William, James.
43:44So what I decided to do was light a candle with you here present.
43:49And it was very important to entrap these two negative, dark spirits.
43:56So we put James into the light.
43:59He's now at peace.
44:00He's now at rest.
44:01He is.
44:01And the two entities we trapped, now they've been banished away from you.
44:07They've been banished away from this house as well.
44:11And that now means that you're at rest and you will start to see that you'll have better luck.
44:22I've had a massive emotional shift of 53 years of thinking he hated me or he was coming to hate me.
44:29I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
44:32We're just so grateful to you, Tina.
44:34This has been mind-blowing for us.
44:37We feel really privileged to have taken part in this journey with you.
44:43You're welcome.
44:43I can't thank you enough.
44:46This case has provided some career-defining evidence for our experts.
44:51That's got to be one of the best investigations.
44:54What do you think to that?
44:54I just don't know what to think.
44:57I just think it's mind-blowing.
44:59It is.
45:00Incredible.
45:02But who knows what the next case will bring.
45:05Now, how do you think about the future?
45:14Whatever the future has delivered.
45:16It is.
45:17It is.
45:17It is.
45:18What do you think about the future?
45:19I guess what will it be?
45:19I think I know what will it be?
45:20No one will win if you.
45:22It is.
45:22The future has luggage on me.
45:24It is.
45:25Toinks on me.
45:26Thanks.
45:27Thanks.
45:27Thanks.
45:28Thanks.
45:29Now, I got friends.
45:29What will it be?
45:30Let's go in.
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