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00:00I was still at home and my husband was at the office.
00:08He called me and said, "Did you speak to Mary earlier today?"
00:13And I don't.
00:13He spoke, didn't you see it on TV?
00:16I just happened to have the TV on.
00:18We are flying over the house right now.
00:20He said, "It's Mary's house."
00:21We'll be back with more information shortly.
00:23I thought, my God, this must be the worst day of her life.
00:30At around 8:30 a.m. on April 10th, police received several emergency calls about an explosion.
00:36My house was completely engulfed in flames.
00:41It was a neighborhood of small, single-story, detached houses, with about three bedrooms.
00:48The houses were close to each other, so we had to hold back.
00:51The police and firefighters are already on their way. Is anyone in the house?
00:55Yes, he did. He must have died. And the neighbor's house is going to catch fire too.
01:00They need to come to Holly Street. They're taking too long. There's a fire.
01:04They need to come to Holly Street.
01:07It wasn't just any explosion.
01:11Caused by gas that damaged part of the house, it was gigantic.
01:17The house was still on fire. There was a lot of debris.
01:21The house had already exploded. The walls had already collapsed.
01:24I remember that scene well.
01:29Distressed people, crowding together.
01:32It was a terrifying, almost surreal scene. It truly was.
01:36It was a huge mess. What happened?
01:39Was it an accident? Was it gas? Was it something else?
01:41And the first thing is to try to find the owner of the house, to see who lives here, where they are,
01:53Because if they're not outside, they're still inside.
01:57The house was completely engulfed in flames.
01:59As we spoke with some neighbors, we discovered that the house belonged to a young family.
02:10Robert and Mary Fisher, and their two children, Brittany and Bob.
02:14Brittany was about 12 years old at the time, and Bob was 10.
02:18I was in shock. I said, okay, then I'll go there, I'll go down.
02:24You know, my husband and I went down to her house.
02:27And smoke was still coming out.
02:30And by that time there was already a bit of a crowd.
02:34There were some police officers and firefighters.
02:39And right after that, Mary's parents arrived.
02:42They called the school, but Bob and Brittany weren't there.
02:49Nobody knew where Robert and Mary were.
02:51The investigator came and said, well, we, we found some bodies.
02:57And I was in shock. I went into shock.
03:01Were there people in the house?
03:04I was already beside myself.
03:06I felt like I was going to fall apart.
03:10Like, I looked at my husband and he was, he was crying.
03:17It was terrible.
03:21AND.
03:22AND.
03:32I've been in many fires throughout my career.
03:35And the smell of fire and burning bodies.
03:40And it's something you don't forget.
03:42You really don't forget.
03:44There is no way to.
03:46And it's impossible to distinguish the bodies.
03:49It wasn't possible at the time.
03:50We had doubts.
03:52So it was going to be a long day.
03:53This is the last photo they took.
04:05That's how I remember them.
04:10They were such a beautiful family.
04:15Mary was very religious.
04:18Robert too.
04:19And that's how they raised their children.
04:23Robert has always been very friendly.
04:26He spoke to everyone.
04:28He got along well with children.
04:31Listening.
04:32Put it in your ear.
04:34And Mary, she just wanted to be a good wife, a good mother.
04:38Raising her children.
04:42She was beautiful.
04:43And his personality...
04:45It made her even more beautiful.
04:51It is difficult.
04:57After they were removed from the house...
05:01It was determined whose three bodies they were.
05:05One of the family members wasn't there.
05:09DNA testing was still a novelty at the time.
05:12But another way to identify them was through the dental arch.
05:15We were waiting for the dentist to do the identification.
05:20Robert's pickup truck was parked in the driveway.
05:24But the neighbors said Mary's SUV wasn't there.
05:27He never drove her SUV.
05:30She never drove the pickup truck.
05:31So it must have been Robert who was at home.
05:34I remember calling our supervisor that day.
05:37And she was very emotional on the phone.
05:39I was sad and crying.
05:41And he said, "I think Bob was murdered."
05:43At the scene, investigators thought they might have died from smoke inhalation.
05:51But after they removed the bodies...
05:54They discovered that something much, much worse had happened.
05:58There was blood on the mattresses, under each of the three victims.
06:08So apparently, they were bleeding, probably before the fire started.
06:13They discovered that the pipeline supplying natural gas to the furnace was not broken.
06:34It had been unscrewed.
06:36This couldn't possibly be an accident.
06:39It's simply impossible.
06:40Someone left the gas pipe open until the house was filled with gas.
06:48It appears the fire was started by a candle that was placed at the end of the hallway.
06:56Close to the bedrooms.
07:00This is what we call a delay device.
07:02Because, to set something up like that, you need to have an escape route.
07:10It would take several hours for the natural gas to reach that ignition source.
07:16So, when the natural gas finally reached the other end of the house, it would catch fire.
07:25It wasn't just any murder scene.
07:30It was a situation where the fire was started to cover up a crime.
07:36I thought, this isn't possible.
07:39I thought it had been an accident.
07:41I would bet all my money on it.
07:42I swore on my life.
07:45After all,
07:46It was something I could never have imagined.
08:05We were trying
08:08keep hope
08:12that someone had been saved.
08:14And they were still looking for Mary.
08:19Mary always drove a silver SUV.
08:22Why was Robert's truck still there?
08:26We needed to find Mary where she was.
08:30Everyone thought Mary was going to show up any minute now.
08:33The victims identified were
08:41Bob Fischer,
08:42Brittany Fischer
08:43and their mother,
08:45Mary Fischer.
08:48Bob Junior and Brittany
08:50They did not die because of the fire.
08:54They died
08:56because their throats
08:57They were cut.
08:58Mary also had a gunshot wound.
09:02at the back of the head.
09:09It was a brutal attack.
09:12It was something
09:13premeditated
09:14And there had to be a reason.
09:17Who would be capable
09:17to enter
09:18someone's house
09:19and literally cut the throat
09:22of two children
09:22While they were sleeping?
09:26AND
09:26Something unimaginable.
09:28Hey, hi!
09:32Do you know who's missing?
09:33In this photo?
09:34Dad!
09:35Yes, Dad!
09:38My God,
09:40Robert,
09:40He's going to be devastated.
09:42He lost.
09:43The whole family.
09:44The whole family
09:46in one day.
09:48And he wasn't there.
09:51I wasn't there.
09:52to help,
09:52to save the children,
09:54to save his wife.
09:56I thought,
09:56he will stay
09:57completely
09:59out of his mind.
10:05Hello!
10:06See you later, Mom.
10:07I'll be back on Sunday.
10:10Where is Robert Fisher?
10:12We needed to find him.
10:13As quickly as possible.
10:15He liked...
10:16outdoor activities,
10:18He hunted and fished.
10:19He was capable
10:20of living alone
10:21in the middle of the woods.
10:22He could have been traveling,
10:23to be in an isolated place,
10:24camping for three days
10:25and with a cell phone
10:26Out of area.
10:27Goodbye, my love.
10:29Goodbye, Bob.
10:30He takes care of himself.
10:31Goodbye, Dad!
10:32I love you all.
10:33I love you.
10:33I love you!
10:35We needed to find him.
10:37to deliver the news.
10:43We had to check.
10:44If he was okay.
10:45He was involved
10:46In something else?
10:47Could he have been
10:48Kidnapped?
10:49Was that happening?
10:50Anything else?
10:50He used to go out
10:53to hunt
10:54and often
10:54He was going alone.
10:56So it wasn't uncommon.
10:57He wasn't home.
11:00But we wanted to
11:01I'll find it very easily.
11:04Mary's father,
11:05a person
11:06from an immense heart,
11:08a few days later
11:09of what happened,
11:10He spoke in front of the cameras.
11:13Robert,
11:14We love you.
11:16Wherever you are?
11:19Please.
11:21We understand...
11:22We love you.
11:23Just go back home.
11:24Please.
11:33We interviewed people
11:34who lived near the Fischers.
11:36According to neighbors,
11:37Robert always drove
11:39the pickup truck.
11:40And the investigators
11:41They knew that he even
11:42I had changed the oil.
11:43recently.
11:44Then,
11:46why his pickup truck
11:47Was he there?
11:49Why didn't he leave?
11:49with the pickup truck
11:50What did you always wear?
11:53Me and my husband
11:54We went back to the office.
11:55and in ten minutes
11:57the investigators
11:59They entered through the door.
12:00and they started asking questions
12:02Where could Robert be?
12:04And we thought,
12:05my God,
12:06Do they think it was Robert?
12:07It was simply
12:08a shock
12:09one after the other.
12:11It couldn't possibly have been Robert.
12:13I didn't have it.
12:14I didn't have it.
12:16It must have
12:17some explanation
12:18for that.
12:20Something happened.
12:22He is our friend.
12:25Mary would stay
12:26horrified
12:27if you thought that we
12:28He thought something like this
12:29From Robert.
12:32Police officers and investigators
12:33interviewed
12:34all the neighbors
12:35who lived in the neighborhood
12:36and, from what they heard,
12:39the Fischers
12:39They were a family.
12:40common
12:41who frequented
12:42the church,
12:43They had good children.
12:45Mommy?
12:46They looked like
12:46a normal family.
12:49We discovered
12:49that he was in the navy.
12:51He tried to be a CEO,
12:52But he failed.
12:54He had been
12:54fireman
12:55previously.
12:57He had surgery.
12:59because
12:59of an injury
13:00in the column
13:00caused by work.
13:02Sometimes
13:02He was in a lot of pain.
13:04Sometimes
13:05I didn't feel much,
13:06But he walked upright.
13:08He had good posture.
13:09always walked
13:10with his chest exposed.
13:12He had scars.
13:13of the surgery
13:14and a procedure
13:15in the tooth.
13:16He didn't have a single tooth.
13:17to mean,
13:17He had a gold tooth.
13:18The investigators
13:19they went to the location
13:20where Robert
13:21I was working,
13:21which was a hospital
13:22north of Scottsdale.
13:24Bob was the person
13:27to whom all
13:28They resorted to using the laboratory.
13:29The nurses
13:31They loved him there.
13:33I always saw him.
13:34reading the Bible
13:35near the locker room
13:36on a small stool
13:37in the corner.
13:39Everyone liked him.
13:40but normally
13:41He was quiet.
13:43He didn't talk much.
13:45I couldn't.
13:46Imagine Bob Fischer.
13:48going to a bar
13:49and starting fights
13:50with another guy,
13:51not even porlando
13:52taxes.
13:55Congratulations to you!
13:59Congratulations, Midinha!
14:01Very handsome!
14:02Shall we cut the cake?
14:05We were trying
14:06gather all the clues,
14:08so a person
14:09He spoke to investigators.
14:11that Mary
14:12said that Robert
14:13I had a case
14:14extramarital.
14:15Get out of here now.
14:25When he told
14:26for Mary
14:27Regarding infidelity,
14:28I think it was
14:29more or less
14:30two or two years
14:32and half before,
14:33He was thinking about suicide.
14:35he made comments
14:36suicidal
14:37then he went
14:37To some woods.
14:41He returned
14:42after four days,
14:43They reconciled.
14:44and then
14:45he turned
14:46Another Robert Fischer.
14:47Come here, come here.
14:48Give them a hug.
14:49Give them both a hug.
14:50Did you like the puppies?
14:53Oh, it gave me a hard time.
14:53a lick.
14:55Oh, what a thing!
14:55cutest.
14:57You're crazy.
14:59Oh, you chose
14:59a very calm one,
15:00Right, Robert?
15:01Mary believed in Robert.
15:04She believed in marriage.
15:05of them and their family
15:07It was his priority.
15:11She never complained.
15:13from Robert,
15:14but at the time,
15:16even though she didn't tell me
15:18that he had betrayed her,
15:19I knew,
15:20I knew he had
15:21There was a case.
15:24She said that
15:25I could forgive him,
15:27but that would have to
15:28Some changes.
15:29he never accepted
15:31divorce
15:31from their own parents
15:32and he said
15:34that his family
15:37it wouldn't pass
15:38through a divorce.
15:39He was trying
15:40to be a good father,
15:42spend more time
15:43with the children,
15:44Pay attention to your wife.
15:46Really,
15:47it seemed that they
15:48They were making amends.
15:51that he was
15:52Doing the right thing.
15:57The investigators
15:59they even said
16:00I don't think it was.
16:01he did it
16:01and maybe we
16:04let's not be
16:04On the right track.
16:08But we
16:09I needed to find it.
16:11It was frustrating.
16:13where is he?
16:15We've reached a point.
16:16what we think
16:17we couldn't catch it
16:19no proof
16:20concrete in this case.
16:21we found a recording
16:24from an ATM
16:26from 10:30 pm
16:27of the homicide.
16:29Show Robert
16:30withdrawing money
16:31of the machine
16:31and in the background of the video
16:33you can see
16:36Mary's car.
16:36That was it.
16:48the school
16:48that our children
16:49They frequented it.
16:52Our daughters
16:53They slept together.
16:55they were
16:55in the same class.
16:58Mary
16:58She was very involved.
17:00she always
17:00she was a volunteer
17:02at school.
17:02when our daughters
17:05they reached the age
17:05of being scouts,
17:08it was her
17:08who started the group.
17:10What you
17:11What are you wearing?
17:11My uniform.
17:13Your uniform?
17:16I remember
17:17that Mary
17:17on rainy days
17:18I used to come here by car,
17:20stopped in front
17:20from school
17:21and they piled up
17:22in the car.
17:27She would have
17:28protecting the children
17:30her
17:30at any cost.
17:32There was something
17:42wrong
17:42that not
17:43It fit.
17:45It was simply
17:47unimaginable.
17:50Why him
17:50Would he run away?
17:51Why him
17:51Would he hide?
17:54That was when
17:55that everything
17:55that I thought
17:56It changed.
18:00The investigators
18:01Did you see the video?
18:02by Robert
18:02at the ATM
18:04in the street
18:04from his house,
18:05withdrawing
18:06260 dollars,
18:07the maximum value
18:08that he could
18:09at the time.
18:10That was
18:10extremely important
18:11because it showed
18:12Robert
18:13in one hour
18:13in a given
18:14local
18:15on the night of the crime.
18:19If he
18:20had been
18:21taken against his will
18:22or been stolen,
18:23we suspected
18:24that we will see
18:25another person
18:26in the car
18:26or near it.
18:27there is not the slightest
18:29evidence of this,
18:31but we talked
18:32with the neighbor
18:32and the neighbor
18:34he heard
18:35a discussion
18:35very high
18:37at night
18:38of the homicide
18:38triple.
18:41Both parties
18:41were very
18:42altered
18:43during the fight.
18:45She wasn't
18:45weak.
18:46Mary
18:47He did not falter.
18:48Either he
18:48got in line
18:49or he was going
18:50out.
18:51And that was it.
18:53that led us
18:54to the theory
18:54that Mary
18:55could be
18:55sold out
18:56and wanting
18:57to get a divorce.
18:59Robert
19:00had conversations
19:00specific
19:01with friends
19:02saying
19:02I will never go
19:03allow
19:03a divorce
19:04in my family.
19:05That never
19:05It will happen.
19:06And he didn't.
19:07that in a way
19:08that would make it work.
19:09It was always with the air
19:10that there was
19:10an intention
19:11strange.
19:15He knows,
19:15I know that he
19:16it was a little
19:17arrogant,
19:18somewhat convinced.
19:19had the king
19:21in the belly,
19:23he knows?
19:23I didn't go.
19:24married to him,
19:25he didn't
19:25my type,
19:27but Mary
19:28it seemed to be
19:28I'm fine with all of that.
19:31The problems
19:32that they had
19:32they were the same
19:33that people
19:34They have this in their daily lives.
19:36I thought
19:37that they were going
19:38to talk
19:39and it was going to stay
19:39all good.
19:40I definitely
19:42I didn't know
19:43Robert Fisher.
19:46You want
19:47Should I pick her up?
19:49he had
19:52a safe
19:52at his house
19:53and us
19:54we achieved
19:54open
19:55and we found
19:56various weapons,
19:57including
19:57hunting rifles
19:59and rifles
20:00and had
20:00at least
20:01a revolver
20:02missing.
20:04We also
20:05we think
20:05several filmings
20:06of family,
20:08parties
20:08birthday,
20:09barbecues.
20:11There I went!
20:12Squid!
20:13Now it's my turn!
20:14Watching these videos
20:16homemade,
20:17It really looks like
20:18that Robert
20:19he was a man
20:20of family,
20:21a paternal figure.
20:23It's the first time.
20:24Britney
20:24in the new pool.
20:26It's my little fish,
20:27My beautiful little fish.
20:30But I think that
20:31sometimes
20:32he lowered
20:32the guard
20:33a little
20:34and you can see
20:35in some videos
20:36that he
20:37it wasn't
20:38this man
20:39perfect family.
20:40Hey everyone!
20:41Even his gestures,
20:43his temperament,
20:44he kind of
20:45mistreated Bob
20:47when I was a baby.
20:48It was a bit much.
20:52He liked
20:53of being a father,
20:53but it's possible
20:54to perceive
20:55that he
20:56I liked to be in charge.
20:58She looks beautiful.
20:58Right?
20:59She's like this.
21:01Show her your dress.
21:03Take a walk.
21:05Give it another turn.
21:08Just to show you.
21:09No matter the situation,
21:10I remain in control.
21:11He used to smile.
21:13Smile, sweetie.
21:15And now he screams.
21:19No!
21:20I know that you
21:20can scream.
21:21It is a characteristic
21:22indefinable
21:23that you
21:23kind of sees
21:24in his eyes too
21:25when he looks
21:26Directly to you.
21:28AND...
21:29It's chilling.
21:30Look,
21:30Turn off the camera.
21:32Wait,
21:32just a minute.
21:33That's enough of that.
21:34Say goodbye,
21:35Britney.
21:36Goodbye.
21:37Wait, I'm going
21:38Find the button.
21:38Don't threaten me.
21:41Robert.
21:43I am unable
21:45to this day
21:46to understand
21:47how he
21:49would be able to
21:51to hurt
21:52the children.
21:53Any child,
21:55but their children.
21:57Your children
21:58All you had to do was go.
22:00It has to be
22:00very selfish.
22:01by chance,
22:02Are you God?
22:04You are the
22:04Almighty?
22:06It's your decision?
22:08This is crazy.
22:10for me.
22:11It's sickening.
22:16After ten days
22:17investigation,
22:18two individuals
22:19They called the police.
22:20and they said,
22:21listening,
22:22near the city
22:22from Yonge, Arizona,
22:24a friend of ours,
22:25Phil Robert,
22:26in the SUV.
22:27The Department
22:30Public Security
22:31from Arizona
22:31He ran away.
22:32over there
22:32and indeed,
22:34under the pine trees
22:35he was
22:36The SUV.
22:41kilometers
22:42in the forest
22:43near the city
22:43from Yonge, Arizona,
22:45Robert's SUV
22:46was found
22:46with your dog
22:47Blue next to the car.
22:49The car was found.
22:50in the region
22:51in which he
22:52and my husband
22:52They had already set up camp.
22:54riding a quad bike
22:55And he was there.
22:56alone.
22:57I thought,
22:58oh my God.
23:00When the investigators
23:02they arrived,
23:02they found
23:03the dog
23:04of the Fischer family
23:04sort of running
23:05around the car,
23:07slightly malnourished,
23:08with thorns
23:08porcupine
23:09on the snout.
23:11But what about Robert?
23:14The National Forest
23:15of Tonto
23:16It is a region
23:17very bumpy.
23:20As soon as SWAT
23:21arrived at the location,
23:22up there,
23:24It was cold.
23:25It's starting to snow,
23:26so they were
23:28trying to track him down.
23:29It was an operation
23:30immense.
23:33It's easy to see us,
23:34But it's difficult to see it.
23:38He could be
23:38anywhere,
23:39all the way to the top
23:40of the trees.
23:42It has several caves.
23:43in different places
23:45where is he going
23:46I could have gone.
23:48He knew
23:49The region is very good.
23:51He was always there
23:51in the woods,
23:52he knew how to use weapons
23:54and I was sure
23:56because he had
23:57rifles.
23:58We were
23:59a target.
24:04The search
24:05with the helicopter
24:05located footprints
24:06where the car
24:06and Fischer's dog
24:07were found
24:08in the basket.
24:09We found
24:09a trail
24:10leaving from where
24:11the car was
24:12approximately
24:13one and a half kilometers
24:14to the south.
24:15The trail goes down
24:16close to the main
24:17streams
24:18over there
24:19and it goes up to
24:20the environmental reserve.
24:21But the vehicle
24:23I was a little further away.
24:24one kilometer
24:25from an indigenous reserve.
24:27It is a sovereign nation,
24:28It's the same thing.
24:30enter
24:30in another country.
24:32But he may have thought
24:34Just jump over a fence.
24:35and move on.
24:37There are footprints going down,
24:38But not coming back.
24:40So we don't know.
24:41Where did he go?
24:42or if it was someone
24:44from the reserve.
24:45It belonged to some agent.
24:46from SWAT,
24:46It belonged to someone else.
24:47Fischer's.
24:49Robert left
24:50from some cave
24:50And did he kill himself?
24:52Will anyone
24:53Did you get it?
24:55We were
24:55ten days ago
24:56dead end,
24:56carrying out the entire operation
24:57in that area
24:58to find it.
25:13We reviewed
25:14the vehicle,
25:15but the car
25:15It was empty.
25:16There was only one glass.
25:18of coffee.
25:18some notes
25:20and the cap
25:21baseball
25:21that we believe
25:22that he may have used
25:23on the day of the murder.
25:24Someone emptied the car.
25:26There was very little
25:27or almost no indication.
25:29There were no suitcases.
25:30or anything like that.
25:32Near the vehicle
25:33there was
25:34feces
25:36that looked human.
25:38The fact
25:39of the dog
25:40to be there
25:40left us
25:42a little more intrigued
25:43in the investigation.
25:45I thought,
25:46like that dog
25:47it was still
25:47near the car
25:48if it didn't have
25:49Nobody there?
25:50It was a new puppy,
25:52It was a puppy.
25:53If Robert
25:54He left on foot.
25:54Why didn't he follow him?
25:56He wasn't tied up.
25:59Then,
26:00if Robert
26:00went somewhere,
26:01Is it Blue?
26:02He returned to the car.
26:03to wait
26:05because someone
26:05Would he come back?
26:06And then we're back.
26:09For the theory.
26:10Will anyone
26:11Did you get it?
26:12Will anyone
26:12gave a ride
26:13without knowing
26:13Who was he?
26:14Did he kidnap someone?
26:17I think
26:17that he
26:18He had help.
26:19Somebody
26:19consciously
26:20or not
26:21He helped
26:22leaving the premises.
26:26The police
26:26says that Robert
26:27Fisher
26:27it may be
26:28fleeing
26:28tonight.
26:31He disappeared.
26:32He disappeared.
26:39He left
26:39very fast,
26:41type,
26:42I can't imagine.
26:43how did he manage
26:44to go that far.
26:45Then it appeared
26:46another theory
26:47which in fact
26:48he had
26:50an accomplice
26:50after the crime.
26:51He told
26:52your plans
26:53for one person
26:53next to him
26:54and it was told
26:56there was a plan
26:56Escape?
26:57We worked hard
26:58on top
26:59this theory
26:59to find out
27:00if there was
27:01a lover
27:01involved.
27:02from the beginning
27:04we disclose
27:05information
27:05asking for help
27:07of the population
27:08to find
27:09Robert.
27:10We begin
27:10to receive
27:11clues
27:11and connections
27:12of people
27:12From everywhere.
27:14One of the clues
27:14that we received
27:15it was from a
27:16clerk
27:17of the city
27:17from Rye,
27:18Arizona.
27:19She said
27:19that at night
27:19of the crime
27:20a couple
27:21he appeared,
27:22a man
27:22and a woman
27:23and the description
27:24that she went
27:25it was similar
27:26like Robert Fisher's.
27:27Apparently
27:28they were
27:29discussing,
27:30there was a certain
27:30voltage
27:31between the two
27:32and they stayed
27:33just for a few minutes
27:34And they left.
27:35Unfortunately
27:36we never managed
27:37confirm
27:37in fact
27:38If it was really him.
27:41The only thing
27:41that we know
27:42That's what hits
27:43with the chronology.
27:45It was a scandal.
27:55when the FBI
27:57He put his name there.
27:59on the list
27:59One of the most sought after.
28:01It came out in several
28:01criminal programs.
28:03We need
28:04of you.
28:04This man
28:05needs to be found
28:06to pay
28:07for the murder
28:08from his own family.
28:10This ended up showing
28:11for everyone
28:12how much
28:13It was a serious case.
28:14and how
28:15unusual
28:16This was the case.
28:18I spent days
28:19looking at various photos
28:20that they were sending
28:21for the FBI
28:22And for me.
28:23And we
28:25I was looking at several photos.
28:26of him and tried
28:27compare.
28:27We used to stay
28:28It's him,
28:29It's not him.
28:33After a while
28:34all the discharge
28:35adrenaline
28:36from that mountain
28:37Russian emotions
28:38It eventually wears you down.
28:40It was very frustrating.
28:41and we were
28:41running out of options.
28:43We received clues.
28:44but none
28:45them helped
28:46Not at all.
28:48Okay?
28:49Okay, Daddy?
28:50Look at this, Robert.
28:51See how easy it is?
29:03here?
29:04It's very quiet here.
29:07You can hear everything.
29:09It had been a long time.
29:10that I wasn't coming here
29:11But I was coming here.
29:13camping
29:14sat nearby
29:15from the bonfire
29:15and I kept trying
29:17Think about the case.
29:19It came to my mind.
29:22no,
29:23he didn't try
29:24to mislead
29:25everybody
29:26he didn't have
29:27an accomplice
29:28that came
29:29catch it
29:30for them
29:31to run away together.
29:33What he owed
29:34trying to do
29:35it was to commit
29:36suicide
29:37in a location
29:38where he didn't want to
29:39to be found.
29:40He was
29:41trying to end
29:42with their own lives
29:44and with everything
29:45related to her.
29:47And then it was...
29:49that I started
29:50searching
29:50by him
29:51where he
29:51had left
29:52the car
29:53of the wife.
29:56Perhaps
29:57if the family
29:57by Mary Fisher
29:58knew
29:59that he
29:59He was dead.
30:00I'm not saying
30:01that would
30:02they feel
30:03better
30:03but it helps
30:04when you
30:05do you know where
30:06your attacker
30:06this
30:07and he can't
30:07It will hurt you more.
30:11OK,
30:12we need
30:13take the path
30:14which leads to the fence
30:15more or less
30:16this way
30:17somewhere.
30:19This fence
30:20separates the reserve
30:21indigenous
30:22of the National Forest
30:23Tonto.
30:24I had hope
30:25that perhaps
30:26somehow
30:27I'm lucky
30:28and it would fall over
30:29with the location
30:30Where did he go?
30:31and put
30:31Let's put an end to this.
30:33But
30:33This is the map.
30:35topographic recreational
30:37from the area
30:37of the National Forest
30:38of Tonto
30:39where they found
30:40the vehicle
30:41wife
30:41Fisher's.
30:42The line
30:46thick
30:47that we can
30:48see here
30:49that will
30:51north
30:52south
30:52it's the border
30:53between the reserve
30:55indigenous
30:56Apache
30:56east
30:59and west
31:00the Forest
31:01National
31:01Tonto.
31:03The vehicle
31:03was found
31:04almost on top
31:05from the border
31:06with the reservation
31:07indigenous
31:08what
31:09he is
31:10approximately
31:1016 kilometers
31:12south
31:13main
31:13road
31:14what is
31:15the highway
31:16260
31:17and half
31:19of the way
31:19between 260
31:21and the small town
31:24by Yang
31:25in Arizona.
31:27Then
31:27This is where
31:28the vehicle
31:29he was.
31:31It has a semicircle.
31:33dotted
31:33in red
31:35which represents
31:36a lightning bolt
31:37approximately
31:388 kilometers
31:40from the location
31:41where the vehicle
31:42was found
31:43what was
31:45where
31:46I thought
31:47that the search
31:49through his body
31:50He should concentrate.
31:53There are no residences.
31:55here
31:55it is
31:56of the Forest
31:57National
31:57It is an area
31:58in what
31:59demonstrably
32:01he practiced
32:02hunt
32:03several times
32:04and that he
32:05I knew
32:05very good.
32:07Then
32:07I
32:08I concentrated
32:08in this region
32:09specifically
32:11inside
32:11one kilometer
32:12and a half
32:12three
32:13why
32:13It is an area
32:15very wide
32:16basically
32:18It's just forest.
32:20All
32:21this area
32:228 kilometers
32:23It's from the forest.
32:24like this
32:24for several kilometers
32:26east
32:26and west
32:27most
32:28this region
32:29It is a forest.
32:31The caves
32:32stay
32:33on the other side
32:35from that hill
32:36there
32:36unfortunately
32:38if
32:39he hid
32:40inside
32:41some hole
32:42or
32:43a crack
32:44we wouldn't see it
32:47no one would ever know
32:48no one would look
32:50that
32:50but
32:51when you
32:52walks through the region
32:53for a while
32:54You see that it's a lot.
32:55wide
32:56we
32:56lose hope
32:57to find it
32:59suicide
33:03It was a hypothesis.
33:05at the beginning
33:05of the investigation
33:06because he had
33:07talked about
33:07suicide
33:08at the time
33:08in which he betrayed
33:09Mary
33:09and everything else
33:10and
33:11It's a theory.
33:12easy
33:13why
33:15we have a tendency
33:17thinking
33:17in what
33:18that would be normal
33:19but killing the family
33:20his wife
33:20That's not normal.
33:21then you need
33:22let's leave that aside
33:23There is nothing normal.
33:24in reasoning
33:25I don't think so.
33:27that Robert Fisher
33:27committed suicide
33:29I don't think so.
33:29what was
33:29personality
33:30from him
33:31I don't think so.
33:31what was
33:31the plan
33:32if the crime
33:33It went so well.
33:33planned
33:34the escape
33:35of him too
33:35he would be
33:36this tormented
33:38we
33:39we think
33:42through several
33:43perspectives
33:44we spoke with
33:45several people
33:46and then
33:47in 2004
33:48we received
33:49a connection
33:50from RCMP
33:51the police
33:51Canadian
33:52I remember
33:53as if it were
33:54yesterday
33:54I was
33:55in a training
33:55in a room
33:56big
33:57interrupted
33:58we were called
33:59by our boss
34:00at the time
34:00and he said
34:01I have good news.
34:02I think we caught him.
34:03that was all
34:12that we wanted
34:13it was the track
34:14that we
34:14I was expecting
34:15we received
34:23a connection
34:23of the police
34:23Canadian
34:24saying that
34:25I was with the
34:25Fisher
34:25in custody
34:26they sent
34:27photos
34:28and it seemed
34:28very much with him
34:29I thought
34:30boom
34:30his face
34:31It's going out.
34:31in all
34:32the news
34:32undoubtedly
34:33It has to be him.
34:34It was crazy.
34:36It was the biggest
34:37city news
34:38I imagined
34:39the scene
34:39them catching him
34:41them taking him
34:41prisoner
34:42putting the
34:43handcuffs on him
34:44oh my God
34:45this person
34:47it was
34:48someone who had
34:49a warrant
34:50prison
34:50in Canada
34:51he remembered
34:52Robert Fisher
34:53He had a scar.
34:55on the back
34:56He didn't have a single tooth.
34:57for me
34:58I said
34:59immediately
35:00It's Robert.
35:01it is him
35:03serious
35:03it is him
35:04It's finally over.
35:05It's finally over.
35:06but before
35:08we needed to confirm
35:09that it was himself
35:10it would take a long time
35:12to do
35:13comparisons
35:13with DNA
35:14and digital
35:15then
35:16what we
35:16needed
35:17to confirm
35:18it was to catch
35:18someone who
35:19knew
35:20personally
35:20then
35:21there was a plan
35:23that had been
35:24thought
35:25in what
35:25we would take
35:26someone who had
35:27seen and known
35:28Robert Fisher
35:28and we would take
35:30this person
35:30to prison
35:31so that they could
35:32to see face to face
35:33and when
35:34this person
35:36He saw him.
35:36on site
35:37she said
35:38it is him
35:39absolutely
35:40it is him
35:40and there
35:41digital
35:44They didn't hit.
35:45at the end
35:48It wasn't him.
35:48we stayed
35:51in denial
35:51for a while
35:52we talk
35:52no
35:53there is something
35:54wrong
35:54it is him
35:55the friend
35:56from him
35:57says it was him
35:57It can't be
35:59and it was a
36:02big
36:02big disappointment
36:03that family
36:05deserves justice
36:06in truth
36:06Robert
36:14my son-in-law
36:15whom I love so much
36:15who is
36:17like you
36:17nobody entered
36:18in contact
36:19I don't know
36:21how they
36:22they endured
36:22I think
36:23that I
36:24I would go crazy.
36:25the fact
36:27of what
36:27a part
36:28of your family
36:29someone that you
36:30welcomed
36:31like a son
36:32was able
36:33of that
36:34wherever you
36:35be
36:35Please
36:37We understand.
36:39We love you.
36:40he almost says
36:43We understand.
36:44but then he holds on
36:47it was time to leave
36:49the heart
36:50I think
36:53that he knew
36:54to give hope
36:58for Robert
36:59that he could
37:00invent
37:01a story
37:02and that someone
37:04I would believe
37:05but not
37:06he knew
37:07There's something inexplicable.
37:29about a child
37:30defenseless
37:32to be assaulted
37:35by an adult
37:36especially
37:37by his father
37:39it's something
37:42which saddens me
37:44very
37:44to this day
37:45and I met
37:49some
37:50Robert Fischers
37:51in my life
37:52I really
37:54I met several
37:55from them
37:55This matters.
37:57even after
37:5920 years
37:59does it still matter?
38:00friends
38:02of the children
38:03they still think
38:04Britney
38:05and at Bob's
38:06they think
38:07in them
38:07I'm sure
38:08that they
38:09do they still remember
38:10Please
38:12I'm sorry.
38:13I believe
38:26that Robert Fischer
38:27it achieved
38:28to reintegrate
38:29in society
38:29start over
38:31a new family
38:32and
38:32that is
38:33living life
38:34like a person
38:35common
38:36disguised
38:37at sight
38:38of all
38:38We have to look for it.
38:39based
38:40in the progression
38:41of age
38:41in how he is
38:42not as he was
38:43at the time
38:44of the crime
38:44I literally
38:48I'm still waiting.
38:48for the day
38:49in which something
38:49emerge
38:50and that they find it
38:51That would be amazing!
38:52if they found him
38:53arrest him
38:54and he appeared
38:54on TV
38:55I wanted to know
38:56Where did he get himself into?
38:57You're crazy!
39:04You're crazy!
39:06daddy
39:08daddy
39:09there are people
39:13around there
39:14what
39:14they know
39:15that this person
39:16It's Robert Fischer.
39:17and we need
39:19that someone
39:20speak up
39:21looking at the photos
39:22today
39:23it is difficult
39:24not recognizing it
39:25try to find it
39:27discover
39:27why did he do that
39:29then
39:30we will
39:33behind all
39:34and any clue
39:35And we will find it.
39:36at some point
39:38someday
39:39We will find him.
39:40I still receive
39:43clues
39:44at least
39:44weekly
39:45I would say that I receive
39:47two to three
39:49per week
39:49we received some
39:51what we think
39:53very good
39:54and we send
39:54our agents
39:55to investigate
39:56but they never saw him
39:57to the point of saying
39:59for sure
39:59it is him
40:00There are still people
40:04what
40:04they get in touch
40:06with me
40:06that they send me
40:08photos
40:08Do you think it could be?
40:09Robert Fischer
40:10I have no idea.
40:12most of the photos
40:14that I see
40:15I am sure
40:15that it is not him
40:16but I don't mean
40:18It's not him.
40:19because what if it is
40:20nobody wants
40:22that he escapes
40:22nobody wants
40:24that he escapes
40:24like this
40:25Robert
40:32doesn't deserve
40:32to live a life
40:34given that
40:35he took three
40:36He doesn't deserve it.
40:37nothing good
40:39in this world
40:40I hope
40:44that he is
40:44dead
40:45if he is
40:47alive
40:47Let's get him.
40:55Brazilian version
40:57drymark
40:58of
41:00of
41:01of
41:02of
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