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00:00You and I have been talking about this for two hours,
00:03and I still don't know if I can fully explain what your position is.
00:08Do you agree with Brian Baldinger when he says this?
00:10I don't disagree with that at all, and it's not a knock on Brock.
00:14I mean, if he's 95%, why put him out there?
00:16Like, why not until you're absolutely certain that he's 100%?
00:20And if Mack wins a fourth game against a very good Tampa team,
00:24then I would definitely leave him in at this point.
00:26I believe in riding the hot hand.
00:27It just happens.
00:28It's not – you're not trying to usurp somebody,
00:31but your job is to win as many games as you possibly can, however you do it.
00:35And you cannot be worried about any player egos or anything else.
00:39I mean, Mack's playing great football right now.
00:41And so, I don't know.
00:42Like, I wouldn't be in a hurry to make that change.
00:44Yeah, so pieces of what he says I fully, fully agree with.
00:48I do think the 49ers have bought themselves the ability to just fully wait
00:53for Brock Purdy to be fully, fully healthy.
00:55But he then sort of changes in the middle of that commentary.
01:00And because I have known Brock Purdy's fully, fully healthy moment might be – it might be Monday.
01:05It might be next Tuesday.
01:07He might be fully, fully, fully, fully healthy.
01:09But the statement was, if Mack wins against Tampa, he gets the next game too.
01:14And I think that that is so, so dangerous to play that game, to automatically, a week ahead of time,
01:21start promising things without context, without knowing what the situation is.
01:26What's Mack's health?
01:27What's Brock's health?
01:28But if Brock is fully healthy and you then make the decision that the following week,
01:33when you host Sunday night football in your building with the Atlanta Falcons coming to town
01:39and you leave your franchise quarterback fully healthy on the bench, that is a hell of a statement.
01:44And it's not about Brock's feelings or emotions at all.
01:47That is a statement.
01:48That is a major neon sign with poster boards all over the stadium.
01:54Kind of a statement if you do something like that.
01:57And I personally am not ready to do something like that.
02:00I'm with Ron Rivera.
02:02I know who my starting quarterback is.
02:03And when my starting quarterback's healthy, I go with my starting quarterback.
02:07And we can worry about poor performance after it happens and deal with it then.
02:12But what would you do?
02:13Are you with Baldy?
02:15If Mack wins at Tampa, does he keep it for another week?
02:19Yeah, he keeps it for another week.
02:21And the idea of him being fully, fully, fully healthy, I don't think he's ever going to be quite that.
02:27And you've got house money.
02:29If you go to 5-1 and you're now 4-0 in the conference, you're 3-0 in the division,
02:34you've got a certain amount of cushion built up.
02:36So you can have Brock Purdy be fully, fully, fully, fully healthy.
02:41Another week can only make the toe feel better.
02:44Now, if you have Mack go out there and he doesn't play well and you lose,
02:48and now you're 4-2, maybe a little bit of a different conversation.
02:51But for me, the fact that you have won so much and you've built up a little bit of a cushion,
02:56you can be more conservative like the Warriors were when they won the title last time in 2022.
03:02You had a nice cushion built up.
03:04Steph Curry was able to sit out a month.
03:06I don't know if he would have been rushed back if they needed to win games.
03:10Would he have come back and played?
03:11We'll never know, but they didn't have to.
03:14Yeah, basketball and football, obviously a little bit different.
03:17Obviously much different.
03:18As far as making the playoffs.
03:19For me, where you are right now as a Niner team, if Mack goes out there and is able to play and win
03:25and Brock Purdy can benefit from another week, I don't think it's a neon sign about Brock or Mack.
03:31Again, I want to keep going on this conversation because I think that's a little bit of a misrepresentation.
03:37I'm not talking about if Brock can benefit from another week.
03:41Quite frankly, I think the scenario completely exists where it's the other way around.
03:46Mack Jones is playing football games and he's not 100%.
03:50So if he wins that game at Tampa, I can almost guarantee you he won't be 100% next Monday morning.
03:56So I don't know if 100% exists in a football season or whatever, but my point is if Brock is fully healthy,
04:06like it is fully recovered, if it is fully recovered, I am starting him.
04:12I don't care what's going on out there.
04:16So if they could be 8-1 and Mack Jones could win four more games and Brock is finally fully healthy,
04:23he could throw him back in there.
04:25Absolutely.
04:25Even though Mack would be 7-0 as a starter.
04:28With zero hesitation.
04:29Yeah, and I think that the longer this goes, the more that is a question and the more that there will be a hesitation.
04:34I don't know how Kyle Shanahan will see it, but you look at the history of these situations
04:39and teams have handled it in different ways.
04:42Listen, I know this about football players, they like to win, and if you're winning with a guy
04:47and all of a sudden you take that guy out and you bring in, even though he's your future,
04:52and I'm not denying that, and I love Brock Purdy, you're going to do that.
04:56You might have a little bit of a question in the locker room.
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05:10Really looking forward to an hour from now.
05:11John Feliciano, who was a teammate of Brock Purdy's for the last two years, will be on the show.
05:17I can't wait to get his perspective on what we're talking about
05:22because he's actually been a part of a locker room with Brock Purdy.
05:27He has been one of his offensive linemen.
05:29He has one of his Toyotas, that whole thing, from the last two years.
05:34So his opinion on this, I think, is going to be really, really valuable.
05:38So I look forward to that.
05:40It's interesting to me that you're talking about having basically a little wiggle room.
05:46It's like, well, the Mac Jones victories, they've bought you space.
05:51So therefore, you don't have to rush Brock back.
05:55And yes, I don't want to rush Brock back.
05:56I don't want him to play until he's fully healthy.
05:59But another hypothetical that you bring up is, let's say, Mac wins four more games in a row.
06:06And he's like 7-0.
06:08He's like, oh my God, you can't break that.
06:11Well, why couldn't I just say right back to you, well, now you've got even more cushion.
06:15What's the big worry?
06:17Put Brock back out there.
06:19If you lose, then we have a new conversation.
06:21And what would you fall to in this hypothetical?
06:24You're already, what, you're 4-1.
06:27You'd be 8-1 at that point.
06:28So then you're 8-2.
06:30So?
06:31Well, the big so is now if you want to go back to Mac, then, okay, now Brock, now you are getting benched.
06:38Yes.
06:38And that's not what you want to do to your $265 million quarterback.
06:42Yeah, I already suggest to you that what you're suggesting and what Baldinger is suggesting is benching.
06:48That is benching.
06:49You can call it whatever you want to call it.
06:50It might be less embarrassing benching.
06:52I call it winning.
06:52If you go out with Mac and you win, then you're winning.
06:56Now, if you go out with Mac and Brock is 100% healthy or whatever the level of health is where he can go out there and play football,
07:03and you go with Mac and you lose, well, now it's an easy call.
07:06Now you go to the starter.
07:08You're a franchise guy.
07:09Go out there.
07:10You're healthy.
07:10Now you're fully healthy because we gave you some extra time.
07:13And now go out there and earn your money.
07:16Earn your $265 million, big guy.
07:18That's what we want now.
07:19I think what you're saying is essentially doing the whole thing through the eyes of the fans and the media.
07:26In other words, you're suggesting, well, it's not a benching because nobody out here would know about it.
07:32Like, you can just keep playing Mac and keep telling people that Brock's toe hurts.
07:36The problem is is the 49ers would know that that's not the case.
07:39And Brock Purdy would know that that's not the case.
07:42And his teammates would know that that's not the case.
07:44So just because we out here wouldn't see it as a, what we call a coach's decision, the 49ers would know it's a coach's decision.
07:53And I find that to be problematic.
07:55Not because of his feelings.
07:57He's a big boy and he can handle anything, as can Mac Jones.
08:01Mac Jones got drafted 15th overall by a franchise.
08:04And then three years later, they're like, get out of here.
08:06We don't want you here anymore.
08:08So, like, I have no issue with their feelings.
08:12This is a larger issue for the entire team.
08:15And I don't think that the message should be sent to the team that we are sitting a healthy Brock Purdy two games into his contract.
08:24Two games into his contract, one of which was a victory on the road at Seattle.
08:28I just have a very hard time with that.
08:29And I think that he and a lot of his teammates, the whole structure of the whole thing, would have a hard time with that decision.
08:39Because it's kind of unfounded.
08:40Depends on when it happens and what the situation is.
08:44Now, if it happens this Sunday, if Brock's toe is suddenly good, he's cleared to play.
08:49Brock Purdy, oh my goodness, the toe is good to go.
08:52And you go with Mac Jones again, that becomes to me a little bit more of a controversial move than if it happens in three or four games.
08:59If Mac Jones continues to stack wins.
09:02Because right now, yeah, Mac is 3-0.
09:05And that win against the Rams, well, yeah, I mean, Mac played really well.
09:09He played really well.
09:10But that was a team victory.
09:12Special teams was awesome.
09:13The defense was pretty good.
09:16And the offense did enough to win the football game.
09:18And it was complimentary football at its finest.
09:20And Kyle Shanahan called his ass off in that game.
09:23So, you went to L.A. on a short week, down a bunch of guys, and you won.
09:27So, yeah, give Mac the credit.
09:29Fine.
09:29You give all of them the credit.
09:31For me, if it happens this Sunday, if Brock is ready to go, well, then Brock plays.
09:38But if it's three or four weeks down the road and a lot more has happened in Mac's favor, it becomes a tougher choice.
09:43I like this sarcastic text that we just got on the Boxer and Gerson work injury attorney's text line.
09:50And it's a 559 number.
09:52Thank you for this.
09:52This is kind of interesting.
09:53This is how I feel.
09:54We need to pull the QB after each interception.
09:58Because that's where we're heading.
10:00Brock starts when he's cleared.
10:01No ifs, ands, or buts.
10:03I agree with that text 1,000%.
10:06So, Brock starts, and Brock throws his usual two picks.
10:11Don't call it that.
10:12That's not fair.
10:13Those are my words.
10:14This is my mouth.
10:15Okay.
10:15That's not fair.
10:17Those are not his usual.
10:18I mean, I can't do sarcasm.
10:20Of course you can.
10:21That's what that was.
10:22Okay.
10:22It was more cynicism than sarcasm.
10:24Okay.
10:24So Brock goes out, he throws two picks, and you lose.
10:27What then?
10:28No, then we...
10:29What then, 559?
10:30Like every week, we have another conversation.
10:34But, again, you just started to flirt with the idea, which is true.
10:39You're talking about Mac winning against the Rams.
10:41And he was really, really good.
10:43But you also pointed out, a team victory.
10:45And if anybody really...
10:47Yeah, they're all team victories.
10:47Well, they all are, but you know what that means.
10:50There's an insinuation there, and it's a very fair one.
10:54Did Mac go out and just, like, sling it and carve the Rams to a second half overtime victory?
11:00He did not.
11:02I take nothing away from what was a beautiful game plan, perfectly executed, and then they hung on for dear life.
11:08But how quick do our memories go?
11:11Go back to the Arizona game.
11:13Mac played great?
11:15Did he?
11:16Or did the Niners win by one, 16-15, where he threw a terrible pick in the fourth quarter, also had a holding call as he ran around in the end zone and had a safety, and the Niners fell down by two with only minutes to go?
11:34I'm not here to discredit him.
11:36I'm not here to discredit him.
11:38But the Niners have won football games, and they've done it in a multitude of ways so far this year.
11:45And they've lost football games, and they lost a football game where their quarterback was patently terrible.
11:50Absolutely.
11:51Absolutely.
11:52But, like, also, you can go to all of their wins, and I don't think any of them, including Brock in Seattle, I would not call any of them, wow, that was a quarterback win.
12:03Like, wow, he went out there and carved somebody up.
12:06Right.
12:06There's no game that is, like, you cannot say that about any game.
12:10Of course you can.
12:11Of course you can.
12:12The quarterback won the game.
12:14Okay, Baltimore-Buffalo first game of the year.
12:17Josh Allen, oh my God.
12:19They won the game because Derrick Henry fumbled.
12:21Right, and they also won because Josh Allen carved them in the second half, and they scored touchdowns on every drive.
12:29Daniel Jones has had games this year carving people up, scoring 40-plus points.
12:35Best running back in football and a very underrated defense.
12:39Everything is complimentary.
12:40Nothing is in football like you can look at the quarterback and say, that was it.
12:44You won because of him.
12:46But we're looking at their performance.
12:47Right.
12:48Their performance.
12:49The worst performance by a Niner quarterback this year is Brock Purdy against Jacksonville.
12:53That's fair.
12:54That's fair.
12:55That's fair.
12:56But if we're looking at each one's performance, there is a different level of dynamic every time we watch them play.
13:04And if you want to see, again, go back and watch the tape of the game against the Arizona Cardinals,
13:09and you want to parade around and be like, Mac Jones won the game, do it.
13:14It's absurd.
13:14I don't assign wins to quarterbacks like that.
13:18No.
13:18Again, not you.
13:19We use the stat because we like to.
13:21Not you.
13:22Right.
13:22But a lot of people, as we have this conversation, Baldinger included, like this, Mac's hot.
13:29Well, is he?
13:30Is Mac hot?
13:32He is quarterbacking for a team that wins when he quarterbacks.
13:35So if you want to ascribe that to being hot, as I do, yeah, he's quarterbacking, and they're winning.
13:42Okay.
13:43You want to win, the quarterback is the most important position, and when he quarterbacks for the Niners, they win.
13:49Guy deserves so much credit.
13:51He deserves so much credit.
13:51So let's just yank him.
13:53Let's bench him.
13:54Yank him.
13:54Stop.
13:55He's the backup, Dibs.
13:56Not right now.
13:57He's not.
13:57Yes, he is.
13:58He's hot.
13:58Ask him.
13:59He is the backup quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers.
14:05Will he be the backup Sunday?
14:06I don't know.
14:07Probably not.
14:08I don't know.
14:08Which has nothing to do with status and has everything to do with injury.
14:12But I have no idea.
14:13I haven't seen an injury report for this week.
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