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00:00Tell me that you don't actually think Brock Purdy is all that good without telling me
00:08that you don't actually think Brock Purdy is all that good.
00:11That's what I'm hearing from a lot of people today.
00:15If you just still expect the 49ers to win football games week in and week out
00:21just because they're the 49ers and you say so, to me you're saying one of two things.
00:27You actually don't think that Brock Purdy is that vital, number one,
00:33or you think Kyle Shanahan is the greatest coach who's ever lived.
00:37I don't know any, any franchise in the NFL who would lose their franchise quarterback
00:44and have people respond by going, no big deal, we're just going to keep on winning football games.
00:51I don't think that exists anywhere else.
00:52There's a third piece of it that you are leaving out,
00:55and that piece is that Mac Jones is a good enough quarterback to win a football game.
01:01And I'm not talking about them being without Brock Purdy the entire year and winning the Super Bowl.
01:06I'm talking about one game.
01:07They're going to New Orleans and you go to New Orleans, can they beat New Orleans with Mac Jones?
01:12Yeah, they can.
01:13But this is, I believe so.
01:14That's not the report.
01:15The report isn't one game.
01:16I'm not worried about the report.
01:17I'm talking about one game.
01:18But that's not what we're talking about.
01:19You might lose Trent, Christian, Fred, Diamador, Eddie, who knows?
01:25I'm worried about one game.
01:27But we're talking about the quarterback position of the 49ers.
01:29All right, if you want to talk about the quarterback position, can you beat New Orleans with Mac Jones?
01:33Yeah.
01:33Can you come home and beat Arizona with Mac Jones?
01:36Yeah.
01:36Can you be home and beat Jacksonville with Mac Jones?
01:38Yeah.
01:39Can you go to L.A. and beat Mac Jones?
01:41Maybe.
01:42You're allowed to, but my point is it's fascinating that you keep answering yeah.
01:47Well, it's fascinating that you think that it's all about Brock Purdy.
01:51Of course it is.
01:51This has very little to do with Brock Purdy.
01:53Wow.
01:53It has more to do with Kyle Shanahan, who is the coach, and Mac Jones, who will be the quarterback.
01:59And if you don't think that Mac Jones is any good, you're allowed to think that.
02:04And I know that you think Kyle Shanahan's really good.
02:06I think he's great.
02:07And so that, to me, becomes a big part of this.
02:09I'm also aware of the stat that you spouted out to us earlier this week, which is Kyle Shanahan's 49er record when Jimmy and Brock are not the QB.
02:17Right.
02:17It sucks out loud.
02:18Do you want me to run down the list of who those people were?
02:20You can.
02:21And I would say that Mac Jones is more accomplished and probably better than Bethard Mullins.
02:28Brian Hoyer, who actually I was looking at a lot of his content today, and he's a content star.
02:33He's awesome.
02:33He's on the rise.
02:34He's awesome.
02:34He didn't text me back, but he's awesome.
02:36I'm trying.
02:36Mac Jones is better than Dobbs.
02:37He's better than Brandon Allen.
02:39He's better than – he's probably not better than Sam Darnold, and I'll give you that.
02:43Sam Darnold 0-1-1 as a Niner starter.
02:44I think Mac Jones is better than all the rest of those guys who Kyle had to lean on to be the quarterback without Jimmy and Brock.
02:52Maybe, but I also – it's just – to me, it's a very, very fascinating sort of exercise because we don't have – if the idea is that Mac Jones is not yet a bust,
03:03then I think you're also saying we don't have any idea who he is.
03:06That means we don't know who he is at all yet.
03:08So why would you have faith in something that you don't know at all?
03:12The only thing that we do know is that he was given a starting job, and the rest of the league watched for three years.
03:20He got worse each year.
03:22Right, right.
03:23He did.
03:24Statistically.
03:24Sure.
03:25He did.
03:26And stats don't lie.
03:27You're right.
03:28No, they do.
03:29But he did.
03:30He got worse each year, and I'm telling you that by my eye test, and I'm telling you that the league watched him for three years.
03:37The team that invested a first-round pick in him decided we do not want you to be our starter anymore,
03:42and nobody else in the league through two years even thought of him as a starter either.
03:47That is the league's review of Mac Jones.
03:51So they do not think he's that good.
03:53So why, when no other NFL team is given this, why do we think the presence of a good coach
04:00or the presence of an organization that has been successful automatically means you will still win football games
04:09even though your quarterback's out?
04:11You can go around the league right now.
04:12We wouldn't do that for any other franchise QB.
04:15The Bills are a good team.
04:16We would not do this if Josh Allen went down.
04:19Who's their backup?
04:20I have no freaking idea.
04:21That's the point.
04:22I think it's Trubisky.
04:22Right.
04:23Who also is a first-round draft pick.
04:25Right.
04:25Who also has started a lot of games.
04:28He is Mac Jones.
04:29That's exactly who Trubisky is.
04:31He is Mac Jones.
04:32If you want to, using the data that you've given me, experience and draft position,
04:38which I don't know what that's actually worth.
04:42You're not wrong.
04:43No.
04:43I don't know what that's worth when you go play.
04:45You know what's worth it to me is the fact that your franchise, the Niners, went out
04:50and signed this guy the first possible chance they could and gave him guaranteed money.
04:55So this organization believes that he's better than what he's shown in Jacksonville and in
05:01New England.
05:01They gave him $5 million guaranteed.
05:03They gave him a two-year deal, $7 million.
05:05They gave him big backup money, and they did it on the first day of free agency.
05:09That's backup money.
05:10It's not like that's...
05:11But they did it on the first day of free agency, where if they saw he was available, and they
05:15rushed out, and they signed Mac Jones because they wanted him to be their backup just in
05:20case, and here we are, just in case.
05:22He's a high-level backup.
05:23I granted you that yesterday.
05:25That does not make him somebody who will automatically just go win football games in the NFL, no matter
05:30who the opponent is.
05:30But his past track record doesn't mean he's automatically going to go out and lose football games.
05:34His past track record...
05:35He does lose more than he wins, number one.
05:38But no, I'm also not using past track.
05:41I don't know what's going to happen.
05:43My point is, is it is fascinating to me how many people today think that the Brock Purdy
05:50injury is no big deal.
05:52It's not a big deal.
05:53You used that exact phrase.
05:55That's right.
05:56It's not a big deal.
05:57Your franchise quarterback getting hurt, you could not, in my opinion, have a bigger deal
06:03for any football team.
06:05There is no bigger deal.
06:06He's not as important to the Niners as Josh Allen is to the Bills, as Lamar is to the
06:11Ravens, as dot, dot, dot, fill-in-the-blank quarterback is to their team.
06:15I don't really agree with that.
06:16And we're going to find out.
06:17You can agree or disagree, and ultimately, what happens on the field will be the determining
06:22factor.
06:23If Mac Jones goes out and he stinks, and they lose, or Mac Jones goes out and plays great,
06:29he can play great, and they can lose.
06:30We're going to see on Sunday just how important Mac Jones is and Brock Purdy is to this team.
06:36They might go out and go 4-0 without Brock Purdy.
06:39Sure, they might.
06:39They could go 0-4 or somewhere in between.
06:41Yeah.
06:42Whatever happens is not an indictment on Brock Purdy in any way.
06:46It's more about the team.
06:48It's about this team without Kittle and Purdy.
06:51All right, Kyle, you don't have your tight end.
06:53You don't have your franchise quarterback.
06:55What are you going to do about it?
06:56You don't have some of your receivers, and you now, to me, are whittled down to a very
07:02mediocre team.
07:03So why would we just assume that they will win over other mediocre teams?
07:07This team that you're facing is probably less than mediocre, and I would say the Niners
07:11are not mediocre.
07:12Not the week after.
07:13I don't think the Niners are, without Brock and without George, mediocre.
07:17You still have a very good defense.
07:19And that's my question.
07:19You've got two other Hall of Famers on offense who will be on the field, and the best coach
07:26in football, some think you're not mediocre.
07:29The Saints also have a very good defense.
07:31To me, it is on paper the definition of mediocre.
07:35It's no quarterback.
07:37It's no tight end.
07:39Most of your receivers are not there.
07:41An offensive line that was mediocre last week at best.
07:45A bunch of rookies on defense.
07:47And so, you can say what you're saying, but then I, in my opinion, I get to say what I'm
07:53saying.
07:53You're clearly saying you think Kyle Shanahan's the best coach in the NFL.
07:56Oh, he's great.
07:57He's a great coach.
07:58He's a great play caller.
07:59There you go.
08:00Look at what they did after Kittle got hurt.
08:03They changed their approach.
08:04They changed what they were doing, and they went out there, and they did enough.
08:08They didn't score a lot of points, I can tell you that.
08:09That's not his fault.
08:10They had a kick missed, and they had a kick blocked, is what happened.
08:13And, you know, the quarterback, your franchise quarterback, threw a couple of interceptions,
08:18and, you know, I don't know if that's on Kyle, so that was on Brock Purdy.
08:23He's the one who's throwing the football.
08:24Again, I am all in on everything that you all are saying, but I want you to pick which
08:30one of these means more to you.
08:32If you just think the Niners are fine and they're going to roll, I believe that you are
08:37either saying you don't think Brock Purdy is vital to this team, or you're saying Kyle
08:43Shanahan's the best coach in the league.
08:45If Mahomes got hurt tomorrow, I do not believe that Kansas City fans would be like, yep, we're
08:49fine.
08:50We'll win through September with Kyle Allen.
08:54I don't think that's how they'd feel.
08:56So it's fine.
08:57You're welcome to the opinion, but I think you're either downplaying Brock or you're uplifting
09:03Kyle Shanahan as godlike, because he's the only coach in history who can just win with
09:08a backup QB all the time.
09:10Let's go to Guru in San Jose.
09:11Hi, Guru.
09:12Thanks for the call.
09:13Rick Ballou here in less than 10 minutes with the Jacksonville broadcast team.
09:18Hey, Guru, what's going on?
09:20Hey, Mark.
09:22So, yeah, I mean, I just got a chance to listen to your soliloquy there.
09:25I mean, me personally, like, I think Brock Purdy can be a franchise quarterback, but at the
09:33same time...
09:33Hey, Guru, I don't want to interrupt you.
09:36Could you pick up your phone, maybe?
09:37You're, like, on a speaker or something.
09:39You sound like you're inside a tin can.
09:43Hello.
09:43Can you hear me?
09:44A little better.
09:49All right.
09:50I'm going to put Guru on hold.
09:52Yeah, go ahead and get him, Lucas, and see if we can figure that out.
09:54Yeah, see if we can work through that.
09:56I do think that there's a third part of it that you're leaving out, which is Mac Jones can
10:01be better than you think.
10:02So it's not just that, you know, Kyle Shanahan's the best coach and people don't think that
10:08Brock Purdy's the franchise guy.
10:09You've got a backup quarterback who's made 49 starts, which is a lot, and he's a guy
10:15who, you know, even Greg Cosell yesterday said he is the kind of backup that Kyle likes because
10:20he fits what they try to do.
10:22The backup quarterback is experienced.
10:24He's a guy that Shanahan loved coming out of the draft.
10:27It doesn't mean that, you know, Purdy's not the guy and that Shanahan has to be a genius.
10:31The Mac Jones part of it, I think, needs to be acknowledged.
10:36Right.
10:36So in my opinion, I process anyone who thinks that about Mac Jones as actually a compliment
10:41in Kyle Shanahan because what under the covers you're saying is, even though Mac has been
10:45bad pretty much most of his four-year career, you now think he's going to be good, and the
10:51reason you think he's going to be good is because you think he simply needed a Kyle
10:55Shanahan-type presence in his career.
10:56And you might be right, but I'm still going to process it that way.
11:00Okay.
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