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00:00Just a phenomenal weekend for the 49ers.
00:02Sure.
00:02I do want to make sure that we've got a lot of that in our repertoire today,
00:07that this is incredible.
00:09I think the Cardinals used the promo code GIFT in their game.
00:14Very well played.
00:15They sure did.
00:15Yeah, because I don't know if I've ever seen,
00:18and we did this on the crossover before,
00:21about I'd have to think long and hard about other games in professional sports
00:26that were that gifty because you had a guy running by himself for a touchdown.
00:33He dropped the ball, and it was a touchback.
00:36He didn't score, and then you had a turnover that you got,
00:39and then you immediately gave it up,
00:41and your own teammate kicked it in the end zone for the other team to recover?
00:45There's no way for your words to do justice of the two plays you're talking about.
00:51I just want to invite everybody, open up an Internet window near you,
00:55wherever you want, and go look at these two plays that Dibbs is talking about.
01:00Di Mercado becomes the second player this year
01:03to basically just give the ball away before he crosses the goal line
01:08in a walk-in touchdown.
01:10Adonai Mitchell did it for the Colts a couple of weeks ago
01:12at L.A. against the Rams, blew that game.
01:15This absolutely would have ended the game.
01:17The start of the fourth quarter would have been 28-3, game totally over,
01:22but he flips the ball right as he's crossing the goal line,
01:24and it goes out the back.
01:27Tennessee gets the ball.
01:28They stay in the game, but later in the game, yeah,
01:30Cam Ward threw a tipped ball that got intercepted,
01:33and then as the interceptor stood up, he dropped the ball,
01:36and then it basically looked like a bar of soap was rolling around
01:39at the bottom of a shower, and everybody, I mean, someone kicked it.
01:42It squirted over there.
01:44Somebody else grabbed it.
01:45It flew through four Cardinals and ends up in the end zone.
01:48Titans fall on it.
01:49They were still losing, and then they still had to go down and score again,
01:52which they did, but you'll give yourself a laugh and a wow
01:58if you go watch these plays.
01:59You're right.
02:00Arizona gagged one worse than I've seen anyone do all year.
02:03They're up 21-6, and Di Mercado runs 72 yards for a...
02:07Gone.
02:08Right.
02:08So you'd be up 28-6 at that point with 12 minutes to go.
02:12It's night-night, but instead, no, it's a touchback, and Tennessee scores,
02:18and then you punt, and then you have a way to, like, buck up,
02:24and you're able to get a stop when you need a stop,
02:29and it's an interception, but you fumble, and then they score again.
02:33And it just, the whole thing was Keystone Cops, and it's a long way to say,
02:36what a weekend for the Niners.
02:38Tremendous.
02:38Seattle lost to a really good team, and you get to play that really good team.
02:42You beat the Rams.
02:43Arizona spit up all over themselves.
02:46Philadelphia, that wasn't a choke job, but that was kind of a head-scratcher.
02:51Yeah.
02:51Denver's good.
02:52Denver's good.
02:53Denver's good.
02:54But it's 17-3 in the fourth quarter.
02:56You're building, and you're the best running team anyone's ever seen,
02:59and you haven't lost a football game.
03:00In a calendar year.
03:02Yeah, the last 17 times that you've put on a uniform.
03:05Actually, 20 times, if you count the playoffs.
03:07They've won 20 of 21, counting the playoffs.
03:11Philadelphia.
03:12Really?
03:12I think that's the number.
03:13Really?
03:14Yeah.
03:14I'd have to look that up.
03:15I thought 17 was including playoffs.
03:17I think it was Nance and Romo.
03:18I could be wrong.
03:19That's right, Jim.
03:20And, you know, they absolutely, they didn't choke it,
03:25but they had, like, 12 different ways to win that game.
03:28Denver could not score.
03:30Believe me, as a guy who has Cortland Sutton on his fantasy team
03:33and R.J. Harvey on the bench and Evan Ingram as well,
03:37they did nothing.
03:38And then yet you'd let them keep hanging around, right?
03:42Yeah.
03:42And they hung around, and that's the way that went.
03:44Yeah.
03:45Just incredible.
03:48I'm actually looking.
03:49Maybe it's with Hurts playing or whatever.
03:51The Eagles actually lost to the Washington Commanders on December 22nd last year,
03:57week 16.
03:59So I don't know where this, that number must be with Jalen Hurts.
04:03They had not lost in whether it was 17, 20, whatever it is.
04:07I'd have to go count it up because Jalen Hurts did not play in that game.
04:10The number that I gave was a 20 of 21.
04:1320 of 21.
04:13And that includes that game that they lost.
04:16But I think with Jalen Hurts, they literally had won, here, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
04:23And then the 4 in the postseason.
04:29So that's 14.
04:31And then go to this year where there had been 4.
04:34So I'm seeing it as 18 games in a row when Jalen Hurts starts.
04:39Yeah.
04:39Hurts actually started that game against Washington.
04:42And he got knocked out.
04:44Four passes and he's out.
04:45But the thing that I heard from, I think it was Nance and Romo,
04:48who were on the game this weekend, by the way,
04:50the big game down there in Tampa, 20 of 21, including the playoffs.
04:55And yet that was the way you lost that game
04:58where you have this great running back who was absolutely epic last year
05:02and you don't run him at all.
05:04Six carries and 11 carries for the team in a game where you're 11 carries.
05:0911 carries.
05:10And only two for Jalen Hurts, six for Saquon Barkley.
05:14And you're up by 14 in the fourth quarter.
05:16I didn't get it.
05:18I did not understand it.
05:20Anyway, back to our listeners, 888-957-9570.
05:24Kirk in Los Altos Hills.
05:25Hi, Kirk.
05:26What's going on, man?
05:27Thanks for calling.
05:29Thank you for having me.
05:31No, I just called in response to what you posited was the question
05:35as to if Mac Jones was still healthy
05:40or after Brock Purdy got healthy and he came back and was ready to go,
05:45would you stick with Mac Jones?
05:47And my question is a resounding and absolute yes.
05:52I think he's – but I'm no – you know, that's my opinion.
05:57I'm no football guy, really of great import,
06:00but I just watch the way he plays, the way he throws.
06:04He's tall enough to see over the defensive line
06:06and he's got pizzazz on his throws and they're accurate.
06:11And he's a leader and people – not the people,
06:14Purdy is too to a certain degree.
06:17And I will admit it, it's a close race, so to speak.
06:20But, yeah, if it were me, I would – even after, you know,
06:24as long as Mac Jones is upright and healthy,
06:27I would stick with him absolutely.
06:29So you really – after, like, you've watched Mac Jones now play these three
06:34football games, you've watched Brock Purdy, if you're a Niner fan,
06:38for the better part of four seasons, two of which have ended up in at least
06:42the NFC title game, and off of these three games that the 49ers won,
06:48these one-score games, you've decided that Mac Jones is clearly a better presence
06:54than Purdy back there.
06:57I would say I'm no scientist.
06:59I don't have enough – that's not enough power in the analysis to make that
07:05absolute conclusion, nor would I say that he's clearly, you know, the one to pick.
07:10It's just that if I had to choose, he would be my – he would be my guy.
07:15And I just think Purdy is, you know, prone to injuries to a certain degree.
07:20We've seen Jones' toughness.
07:22And if I were – I mean, I'm getting way over my skis here.
07:27But, yeah, if everything stayed the same and Jones was healthy and he was looking
07:30good, I'd package up all that money you gave Brock Purdy and see if there was
07:35another club that needed a quarterback.
07:37Yeah.
07:37Kirk, thanks.
07:38Appreciate it.
07:39Yeah, you don't need to qualify the opinion with all the, like, you know,
07:42just my opinion and I'm no football person.
07:46Like, we're all just – yeah, they're all – everything's all welcome here.
07:49That's fine.
07:50I mean, I just – I don't understand, first of all, the idea that you could package up
07:57Purdy and another team, or Mack, quite frankly, is going to be dying for – like, the rest
08:03of the league comfortably sees the same thing all of you do, which is that, no, no, they
08:11wouldn't be as good without Kyle Shanahan.
08:13They wouldn't.
08:14And that's okay.
08:16That's okay.
08:17That's what I would love to get to.
08:19I'd love to get to a spot where somehow that's not a criticism of the quarterback.
08:23Because I know where people's minds will go when we say that, well, then why would
08:27you pay him?
08:28Because not everybody comes in and runs it at that level.
08:34Is everybody maybe the best version of themselves?
08:39Is everybody able to maybe win football games?
08:42I mean, not – I wouldn't even say that.
08:44No, not everybody is able to win football games.
08:47But a lot of good quarterbacks can come in and win football games without saying, actually,
08:53they can take us all the way to the end.
08:56The biggest flaw in the whole argument that I hear from people right now is that you've
09:02decided based on three early season narrow victories that Matt Jones has something that
09:11Brock Purdy doesn't when Brock Purdy has already shown that in this system he is a quarterback
09:19who not only wins football games but maneuvers through the playoffs and gets all the way to
09:24the end.
09:25That is not proven for, quite frankly – I mean, I guess you could say Garoppolo did it
09:32once, maybe even multiple times.
09:34He won playoff games.
09:36But that has not been – we've got no evidence of that on Matt Jones.
09:41And I find it to be wild how quickly that history under Brock Purdy has gotten brushed aside
09:49through this first month of the season.
09:51Well, the history, I don't think, is what people are looking at.
09:55It's a small sample, and it's got people thinking about what if.
09:58What if you didn't give Brock Purdy $53 million a year, and what if you just decided to roll
10:05with what you have here?
10:07And I know Brock Purdy wouldn't have come back and played whatever.
10:10Maybe you would have given Brock Purdy one year and $30 million, or one year and $50 million,
10:15whatever the contract would be.
10:16Let's put the contract aside.
10:18I do think the hypothetical that people are wrestling with is, what if you had Mac Jones
10:24and Brock Purdy, and the contract wasn't the thing?
10:28Like, what would you want going forward?
10:30Would you want Mac Jones for a bargain, or would you want Brock Purdy for $265 million?
10:36Brock Purdy.
10:37Right.
10:37I don't think that everybody agrees with you.
10:39But, right.
10:40But I'm not trying to go 4-1.
10:42I'm trying to win the Super Bowl.
10:45I'm trying to win the Super Bowl.
10:46This is the big thing, and it sucks.
10:49It sucks so bad, because Mac has been so impressive.
10:53Oh, yeah.
10:53Mac has been such a warrior.
10:55It's my guy.
10:56Such a warrior.
10:57I don't want to do anything that diminishes how incredibly impressive this is.
11:05But all of you who think this way are taking three early season victories,
11:11one by three in overtime, one by one against the Cardinals,
11:16and one by five against the New Orleans Saints.
11:18You're taking those three victories,
11:20and you are now deciding that that is evidence of Super Bowl-level prowess.
11:27And I think that that's absolutely crazy.
11:31What have you seen?
11:33We were exhausted and amazed Thursday night.
11:35Yeah, yeah.
11:36Super Bowls are not built off of, wow, how the hell did we do that?
11:41Super Bowls are built off of, yeah, dude, eat that.
11:45We just came into your building and showed you what's up.
11:48Well, we don't know what Super Bowls are built off of here.
11:51Yes, we do.
11:51Because it's been forever.
11:51Yes, we do.
11:52It's been 30 years.
11:53Dibs, come on.
11:54No, you're with me, you know.
11:55But you're with me.
11:56He's been right up against the end of the season twice.
12:01In a very, very early career.
12:03He has.
12:03And when those seasons were rolling,
12:06we were watching a football team that was pounding people.
12:09Right.
12:10They were strutting into people's buildings like what?
12:14Well, you didn't strut into Philly, and then his injury proneness.
12:17I think you did strut into Philly.
12:19Well, I mean.
12:20I think you did.
12:21You didn't have the lead until Josh Johnson got you in the end zone.
12:24Well, but that's a fact.
12:25He got hurt.
12:26He did strut into Philly once.
12:28He got hurt.
12:29He kicked Philly's butt.
12:29In the regular season.
12:30Yeah, I understand.
12:31Your point is about the playoffs.
12:33Yes.
12:33I think that it's right for people to wonder, especially for next year when the 53 kicks in,
12:40what could that 53 million actually mean?
12:42And you and I were talking during the break about Debo Samuel,
12:46and it turns out Debo has not lost a step.
12:48He actually might have gained a step.
12:50And I don't know how much of yesterday you watched.
12:52Actually, I do.
12:53You watched all of it.
12:54Because you're a junkie.
12:55Yep.
12:56You are like the people I pass by on my way to walk to the parking garage.
13:00You're a junkie.
13:01I got no reason to not be there, dude.
13:03Debo Samuel is, he did not lose a step.
13:06No.
13:07And so, I'm not saying that he was a cap casualty.
13:10He was a casualty of a lot of different things.
13:12But next year, if you had that 53 million, could you not think that you'd be a better team?
13:18Well, yes, you're allowed to think that.
13:20Right.
13:20And that's completely fair.
13:21I just think that there's kind of an intricate answer to that.
13:25Because it's kind of like you look at the way the earth is built, right?
13:29Like at the core, you have to have at the core somebody who has the ability to take this outfit all the way.
13:37You have to have that.
13:38And that's Kyle Shanahan at the core, right?
13:41Agreed.
13:41But then the very next piece of that is going to be the quarterback.
13:46That's the mantle.
13:47And so, I look at it as you've already got proof of concept.
13:51I know he doesn't have a ring, but you have proof of concept of getting to the end, moving all the way to the end with Brock Purdy.
13:58You don't have that proof with Mack Jones.
14:01Does Mack need all this stuff to go?
14:03Does Brock need all of these things to go right around him?
14:05Yes.
14:06Yes.
14:06Yes.
14:07You have to have good teammates.
14:08You have to have relative health.
14:10I'm so glad you brought up Debo Samuel.
14:12Debo is a wonderful example to me of what we're talking about today.
14:16Why did Debo Samuel suck last year?
14:19Because now I'm going to take away from you the idea that he's dust.
14:23And that he's lost it.
14:25And that he's washed.
14:26We have 1,000 text messages in our archives.
14:31Debo is washed.
14:33It's because of Brock Purdy, Mark.
14:35But he's not washed.
14:36So, why did Debo stink last year?
14:40Because they all stunk.
14:41Like, the offense was not good.
14:43Why did they all stink?
14:46I'm going to point the finger at Brock Purdy.
14:48Why?
14:48No, you're not.
14:49You're being sarcastic.
14:50I'm totally being sarcastic.
14:51Because everything with the organization was rotten from the inside out last year for about 132 different reasons.
15:00The majority of them were not good last year.
15:02Right.
15:03Like, Kittle was good.
15:05And, like, that might be the end of the list.
15:07Juwan was awesome.
15:08Your defense stunk.
15:10Your defensive coordinator was in over his head.
15:12Your running back was hurt.
15:13Your running back was hurt.
15:14Your star receiver dragged the whole organization through a thing.
15:17Your tackle missed a bunch of games.
15:19Missed a bunch of games.
15:20All of it.
15:20We don't need to redo history.
15:22You all were here.
15:23So, when you come out of last year and what you come up with was, well, Brock wasn't very good.
15:32That's like somebody putting a seven-course meal in front of you.
15:36You take one bite of a little cucumber and you don't like it and you're like, crappy meal.
15:41You got to look at this whole damn thing.
15:46Sure, Brock was kind of mediocre last year.
15:49And there are reasons for that.
15:51And this put a cape on and just grab crappy organization and take it to the promised land by yourself because we paid you thing is cartoonish.
16:00Which, it's rare.
16:01It doesn't exist.
16:02Well, I mean, Mahomes has kind of done that.
16:04And he did it with a great offensive line and a great defense and the best defensive coordinator in football.
16:09So, coach.
16:10And you and I always talk about complimentary football.
16:13And, like, last year is a great example where your defensive coordinator was not ready for the job.
16:18And your defense wasn't good enough.
16:20Your offense struggled.
16:21You had injuries.
16:22And this year, you've got a great defensive coordinator who's doing a lot of good things with your defense.
16:27And so, yeah, Mac Jones looks better now than Mac Jones would have looked last year.
16:32I totally agree with you.
16:33But I just wonder about, you know, what fans would think about $53 million for a quarterback when your replacement is, I mean, he's not as good as Brock.
16:43But he's close enough to where $53 million might be poorly spent.
16:47Here's what a lot of people would say.
16:49And I don't know how you'd answer this.
16:51Actually, someone just texted it to us.
16:53Boxer and Gerson, work injury attorneys, text line, 925.
16:56I just don't think Purdy is $45 million better than Mac Jones.
17:01These contracts are so overinflated, you can say that's just the going rate.
17:05But in my opinion, Brock, and most quarterbacks for that matter, are not worth that much of a percentage of the cap.
17:10All right.
17:11So, if you looked at me and said, hey, is Brock $45 million better than Mac?
17:15No.
17:15Of course not.
17:16But I don't think that's relevant.
17:17Because all Brock has to be is this much better than Mac.
17:23And I'm holding my fingers pretty close together.
17:25It's pretty small.
17:26That's it.
17:27I don't care about the money.
17:29The question you should ask yourselves is, is Mac Jones, have you seen something that tells you Mac Jones is good enough to go to a bowl?
17:39I haven't.
17:40I could be wrong.
17:42But I've not seen something that tells me, I bet that guy could lead a team to a Super Bowl.
17:47I don't need to ask that question with Brock Purdy.
17:49I already know it to be true.
17:51Even though he did not win the ring.
17:53Right.
17:53And he got there with an amazing cast of characters who all were healthy.
17:57And often, whoever goes to the Super Bowl has an amazing cast of characters.
18:02Just like Jalen Hurts did last year.
18:04Jalen Hurts has an amazing, like a freaking amazing, the best offensive line in football.
18:11The best running back in football.
18:13A 30 million receiver over there and a 25 million receiver over there.
18:16And a phenomenal tight end and a great defense and all of it.
18:19He had all of those things.
18:21It's okay to be surrounded by greatness.
18:24It does not make you weak.
18:26I know Brock Purdy can go to a Super Bowl.
18:29So, if he can and Mac can't, then that to me is worth infinity.
18:36I don't, is he 45 million more or better?
18:39No.
18:39No, but I don't think that's the question we're asking.
18:42But we don't know that Mac can't.
18:44We don't.
18:45We didn't know that Brock could until Brock did.
18:48Correct.
18:48But now you do.
18:50Now you do.
18:51And are you willing to give that up for the maybe, even if you admit,
18:56hey, he looks about $3 million worse.
18:59Okay.
19:00What if that $3 million is the difference?
19:02Because this is all a game of inches.
19:04But it's $45 million different.
19:06Whatever.
19:07So, that's a big difference.
19:09Okay.
19:09And the answer is yes, I would be willing to take that chance.
19:14And, you know, I was in.
19:15Really?
19:15And I don't want to be too personal about it, but I was in a marriage that was,
19:21it was great.
19:22I mean, it was good.
19:23I mean, it was fine.
19:25It was.
19:26You know what it was, Mark?
19:28It started out elite Super Bowl level, and then by the end, it was like a 10-7 season.
19:34Okay.
19:35Playoffs.
19:36Okay.
19:36It was the Mike Tomlin of marriages.
19:39We had Big Ben early, and we won a bowl.
19:42And after that, we were always good.
19:44You know, we were always good.
19:45Well, but I wanted to go out there, and I wanted to get that 13-4.
19:49You wanted to go big great.
19:51Yes.
19:51I wanted that 15-2.
19:53So, are you asking me?
19:54You play to win the game.
19:55I would roll those dice if I believed in it, and this is all hypothetical, because it's
20:01too late now, because you put a ring on Mack, but, I mean, you put a ring on Brock, but yeah,
20:06I'm not afraid to roll the dice on things.
20:08You know that about me.
20:09Yeah, but I could take the point you just made and spin it the other way as well, which
20:13is that, like, you left a marriage that was like, it was good, it was good, but I wanted
20:19great.
20:21Maybe that's actually what the 49ers did here.
20:23Like, Mack Jones, on the Niners, he can be good, he can be good, but we're willing to
20:29pay for what we believe is going to be great, or, quite frankly, we have already seen that
20:36giving the right situation is great, because that's what Brock has shown.
20:41Like, Brock, two years ago, was legitimately great.
20:45He was in the MVP race, for crying out loud.
20:47Until Christmas.
20:48Until Christmas.
20:49Right.
20:50Right.
20:50So, all of these things get baked into the conversation.
20:55I get what you're saying.
20:55I completely get what you're saying.
20:57And I don't think it's nuts if what you want to say is, I'll take a dip at the QB a little
21:02lower so that I can build more around him.
21:05Right.
21:05That's a philosophy.
21:07I wouldn't do it.
21:09Maybe you would.
21:11But I don't think the question is, is Brock 45 million better than Mack?
21:17Of course not.
21:17Of course he's not.
21:19But maybe he's only a million better than Mack.
21:23But that's the million that could get you over the top.
21:25Or it's the 44 million that could cost you.
21:28Maybe.
21:29Maybe.
21:30Is Steve Kerr whatever, $15 million better than Mark Jackson?
21:37Oh, you just needed something to spin it all just a little bit further.
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