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00:00Is this a cat in a stroller?
00:01Oh my god!
00:03Previously on My Big Fat Fabulous Life.
00:06Does it work for you to come up this weekend?
00:08Because we want you to record a podcast episode.
00:10Yes!
00:11The invitation to go back to Salem is so exciting.
00:15I looked up on the realtor website.
00:17So you really are considering moving?
00:19I was just looking.
00:20I'm not stupid and I know you.
00:24Cute.
00:25If I had to picture my New England cottage on the water,
00:29well, this would be it.
00:30What else would you even need?
00:33You're already acting like you're moving your entire life up here.
00:35If I'm actually pregnant, there would be no argument.
00:39I would stay in Greensboro.
00:41But if I'm not, I have to have a backup plan.
00:43Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute!
00:44What does that mean?
00:45That's a line!
00:46It's not there.
00:48Not pregnant.
00:49I hate this.
00:51You know, at this point, I just feel like I'm running into a wall.
00:54It just feels like a life in Greensboro with a baby isn't meant to be.
00:59Ashley's going to die.
01:02Wait, you're talking to Ashley?
01:03I mean, we talk.
01:04Things are just super awkward because we had that huge blow up.
01:08Ashley and I don't speak.
01:10We don't communicate.
01:11And in almost two years...
01:12Maybe he just needs closure.
01:14What if I was there and I mediated it so nothing went sideways?
01:17I'll have to think about it.
01:18Please do.
01:20Guess who had major ficus?
01:23Me and Tal.
01:24Yeah, we got into it too.
01:25He called me unhinged.
01:28Tal came with me personally.
01:29So, I went at him.
01:31Do you want to, like, talk to him?
01:33I would just hate to leave it on, like, a wall.
01:34I'm certainly down.
01:36If Buddy is willing and open to talking to Tal, then I say we have a meeting.
01:41You can put a, you know, a blue cloth over the top, you know, that hangs down on the side.
02:09And then you get a segment that goes into the headboard.
02:14Oh, my God.
02:14Oh, yeah.
02:16Hey, what's up?
02:17What is that?
02:18This is my old crib.
02:20Got it ready for the newcoming baby.
02:26I have been back from Salem for fewer than 24 hours, and I'm still trying to process everything that happened.
02:33And I'm also trying to process what exactly I'm looking at.
02:36This was my bed, originally.
02:39So, I refinished, you know, the side rails and the headboard, and I put the cane in, the headboard, and the footboard.
02:46That's so cool.
02:47And then I made all this.
02:49Dad.
02:51I have not found the appropriate time to tell my dad that the insemination did not take, and I'm not pregnant.
02:58It's been in the attic for ages.
03:00And now he's brought over Hunter's baby bed and seems to be extremely excited again about the idea of being a grandfather.
03:10So, I certainly don't know how to tell him now.
03:14We brought all these stuffed animals.
03:16And my stool.
03:18Oh, my God.
03:21A bonnet?
03:22And I have a, mom has a framed picture of me wearing this bonnet.
03:26I can remember everything in here.
03:28You got everything you need for a new baby.
03:32Look at what Babs wrote.
03:33Whitney, these are some of your baby dresses.
03:36If your little girl can't wear them, you can put them on her dolls.
03:40Yeah.
03:41Hmm.
03:43The fact that my dad has unearthed these childhood relics, and then to see this, like, message from my mother makes me sad.
03:51Because I know my mom and my dad really wanted to be grandparents.
03:57It's just a knife in the heart.
04:01Oh, my God, Dad.
04:03My first Halloween costume.
04:05My first Halloween costume.
04:07Your mom made that.
04:08Hunter and I were talking about how excited we are for you.
04:11Yeah.
04:13The other day when you told me about getting pregnant and you were upset because I didn't show as much emotion as I should have.
04:21You're talking about the guy who, in his wedding photo, is, like, stone-faced.
04:24So, anyhow, we wanted to make sure that we showed you the love that you need to have as you're getting ready to have your baby.
04:34Daddy, that's very sweet.
04:36I am so touched by my dad's enthusiasm, but my pregnancy journey has been extremely difficult for me.
04:48Technically, I have one more vial of donor sperm, but I'm going to be 41 in a few days.
04:54And I don't think I have it in me to try it again, honestly, because I cannot stand to fail again.
05:04I can't believe all this.
05:06There you go.
05:07Love you.
05:08Love you.
05:08You can rummage through all these boxes and have a good time.
05:12I will.
05:12All right.
05:13We'll see you in a little bit.
05:14Love you.
05:16Thanks, Daddy.
05:17I know I have to tell them that I'm not pregnant.
05:21I just have to find the right time.
05:25However, I have more big news to share, and I really do not know how they're going to take it.
05:33Lord Jesus.
05:54Oh, hello.
05:55Hi.
05:56How's it going?
05:58Good.
05:58Just, um, arranging a few little things that I thought would be helpful for this meeting.
06:04Lord knows I have a lot of stuff going on in my life right now, but the last time I saw Buddy,
06:11he told me that he and Tal got into a really nasty argument over some political content that Buddy posted online,
06:19and now they are no longer speaking.
06:21Here's you some water.
06:22I am so nervous.
06:24I can tell that.
06:24I suggested that they have a conversation in a neutral space, which is my house,
06:30and I told them that I would help mediate and maybe help them find a way forward,
06:36because if it's just them two with each other, the fur is going to fly.
06:42Pickles always make me feel good.
06:44That might make me feel worse.
06:45Let me try.
06:46Is it just a regular pickle?
06:48Regular dill.
06:49What is the big dill?
06:50I'll tell you what the big dill is.
06:52When Buddy gets here, I'll tell you what the big dill is.
06:55He's the big dill.
06:56I can't take any of this.
06:58Yeah, I can't either.
06:59I'm laughing because I'm so uncomfortable.
07:00It's not funny.
07:02Should I call Ashley and see if she want to come over here and we knock it all out in one fell swoop?
07:05Yeah, why not?
07:06Make it a party.
07:09Buddy and I are never going to see eye to eye.
07:11While Tal and Buddy are here, I feel like I might as well see if Ashley and Tal want to air their beef at the same time,
07:19so we can get it all over in one fell swoop.
07:21I mean, I just feel an urgency to do something, because the friend group is not grouping.
07:26I'm here with Tal.
07:31I just wanted to let you know, we're about to have some sort of conversation.
07:34It's going to be me, Tal, and Buddy.
07:36And I just thought, because it's a time to air grievances, and you're welcome to come over if you want.
07:43Like now?
07:44Yeah.
07:45Well, in a few minutes here, he's not here yet.
07:47Buddy's not here yet.
07:48I am nervous as all hell.
07:53I'm hearing Ashley's voice for the first time after literal years of silence.
07:59We had a misunderstanding that escalated very quickly.
08:03Some really ugly things were said on both sides, and it's just been hard to bounce back from that.
08:09Honestly, in retrospect, what happened with Ashley was stupid.
08:12Ashley and I, I think, agree on most basic beliefs and principles.
08:18Buddy and I no longer do.
08:21That's a lot to process in this moment.
08:25No pressure.
08:26Just wanted to just send the invitation.
08:29That's all.
08:30I can't.
08:30Just the thought of that.
08:33Causes.
08:34Like, no, I can't do that.
08:37Thank you for the offer, and good luck.
08:41I am sad that Ashley is choosing not to come.
08:44I do wish that she would talk with Tal just to have closure,
08:47but also, I would certainly love to have someone diffuse this Buddy situation with me.
08:54All right, now, me and Todd's birthday coming up.
08:56You got the invite?
08:57Uh, yeah.
08:58Now, it is Zodiac-themed.
08:59If you want to wear your Zodiac sign, you can.
09:02I don't have a crab costume, but I'll do my best.
09:05I'll look on the Internet.
09:06Oh, God.
09:07Okay.
09:07Okay, bye.
09:08My 41st birthday is right around the corner,
09:13and I'm hoping that by having this mediation with Tal and Buddy,
09:17it will make for a more peaceful celebration.
09:21I don't know.
09:22I just feel like it has the potential to be really bad,
09:25and I'm trying to mitigate that as much as possible.
09:28I'm going to have to bite my damn tongue,
09:31because I've got nothing nice to say.
09:33Well, I don't think you should bite your tongue, actually,
09:34because then what's the point?
09:36Oh!
09:36What up?
09:37Hi, buddy.
09:38You going in?
09:47There's no pizza here.
09:49You told me this is a pizza party.
09:50Oh!
09:50When I first walk in, it's definitely a little awkward,
09:54but, you know, elephant in the room,
09:56the six-foot-four skinny elephant in the room.
10:01I do have two waters in case anyone gets parched.
10:05Very nice, and jars.
10:06I like it.
10:08My whole reason for wanting to get together with Tal
10:12is just to maybe show him that I'm not, like, a devil, I guess.
10:17He said he didn't want to fight.
10:19I think he did.
10:20I may have wanted to.
10:22I don't anymore, so I'd like to bury the hatchet.
10:28Okay, before we begin, my role is to be a neutral mediator.
10:35Yeah?
10:36Do we want to carve a path forward?
10:39Uh-oh.
10:39And we don't, and we don't, and we, and see,
10:41and I don't think we need to decide the outcome before we start.
10:44I think that we need to start.
10:45This was my mommy's, and it hung in our house my whole life.
10:53Just a serenity prayer.
10:54I think one good goal to have, and I'd like to know if everyone's in agreement,
10:58is that no matter what is said or done,
11:00that we work on and continue to view each other as human beings.
11:06Buddy, are you going to see Tal as a human being?
11:08Absolutely.
11:08Never stop.
11:09Tal, are you going to see Buddy as a human being?
11:10I used to see Buddy as a human being.
11:13Let's start again trying to see him as a human being still.
11:16I'm trying to see you as a human being.
11:18That's better.
11:21Tal, why don't you explain a little bit about what your thought process was
11:25before you even reached out to Buddy to begin with?
11:28Yeah, I saw some political content on Buddy's social media
11:32that I found very distressing.
11:35It was completely incongruent with what I thought I knew about Buddy.
11:39I very calmly initially just said I was horrified and disappointed, which I was.
11:48You think you know somebody, and then all of a sudden you get on social media one day
11:53and you find out there's somebody completely different.
11:57I confronted him over text because, honestly, I was concerned.
12:02I told him he was unhinged, and we have had nothing to say to each other since then.
12:07You inquired out of a place of concern, but then also called me unhinged.
12:14And you're a therapist, that's amazing, but whatever.
12:16Were you coming from a place of, I want to understand this,
12:19or were you coming from a place of, let me tell him how gross this is?
12:24Because it didn't really give Buddy an opportunity for a conversation, I don't think.
12:29I was just very honest about how I felt when I saw what I saw.
12:33But do you want to understand now, or do you just want him to understand you?
12:36I would love nothing more than to understand,
12:38because otherwise I'm left to believe that you've lost your mind.
12:45I am feeling very nervous.
12:48Buddy and Tal can both be incredibly stubborn and hot-headed,
12:51and they're both pissed right now.
12:58Hi!
13:00Hello!
13:01Happy birthday!
13:02I don't like drama, but I have two nemesis at this party, Ashley and Buddy.
13:08I'm hunting for my wife's dinner.
13:10I must kill it and bring it home.
13:11What are you pointing at?
13:12I'm left to believe that you've lost your mind.
13:30I thought you were a good person.
13:32Well, here it is, though.
13:33Like, I'm wishing you well.
13:35You're wishing, I don't know, death, it sounds like, on me.
13:38I didn't say that.
13:39You said you hope that I never find peace.
13:42That's a hell of a thing for a therapist to say.
13:45Your license should be revoked.
13:47You wish you had a license.
13:49Dude, anybody could get a license.
13:50Stop coming for me.
13:50Dude, it's such a crock of s***.
13:52Stop coming for me.
13:53You know what?
13:54Your license should be revoked.
13:55Well, that's not...
13:56Okay, okay.
13:59A few months ago, Buddy posted something of a political nature on his social media.
14:05Tal specifically got very upset by it
14:07and confronted Buddy pretty aggressively, in my opinion.
14:10So, I have devised this mediation to see if there is any middle ground that we can come to.
14:17I'm not sure what I expected or even hoped for, but this isn't it.
14:22I'm not going to answer another one of your questions, because you're ridiculous.
14:26I don't feel anything about Tal, dude.
14:29God bless you.
14:30F*** off for the rest of my life.
14:31I don't care.
14:32Oh, you don't feel anything?
14:33Not for you.
14:34Looks like you feel something.
14:35Not for you.
14:35Well, I guess...
14:36Oh, there's the therapist coming out.
14:38I knew he was there somewhere.
14:41Well, f*** the audience.
14:42Stop.
14:43You're f***ing jealous.
14:45Jealous?
14:45You're a therapist, and you're going to just not...
14:47Stop bringing up what I f***ing do, Buddy, because right now I'm not a therapist.
14:51I'm a human being.
14:52Are you going to scream, everyone?
14:54Stop talking about that when I know you're just jealous, because you wish you were, too.
14:59I am going to lose my mind.
15:03My values reflect the fact that I am a therapist.
15:08I'm sorry that you're dissatisfied with your life, Buddy, but don't project that onto me,
15:13and don't bring up my f***ing job one more time.
15:17I do think therapists are allowed to be imperfect people, so I think on both sides, like, let's
15:21not personally attack.
15:23This is nuts that you pretend to be able to, like, diagnose or, like, help people through
15:30their problems, but you're behaving like this.
15:33Like, we can agree to disagree.
15:34We can agree to disagree harshly, but he doesn't have to call me unhinged.
15:39Maybe I am unhinged, but so is he.
15:44So how do we want to move forward?
15:46Moving forward separately, I guess, yeah, whatever.
15:50From the bottom of my heart, as someone who loves you both, the same thing that we opened
15:55with, I would like to leave with.
15:57I want us to just remember that we're all people and we're all humans, because I do love you both.
16:03My birthday is coming up, me and Todd's joint celebration.
16:08Can I have both of you there, and can I feel like it's not going to be a problem?
16:14I just don't want there to be hate in our hearts.
16:17I love you, Tal.
16:19I love you, you sweet baby.
16:23Sweet baby.
16:24Let's not patronize.
16:24No, let's soften him up.
16:25Let's not patronize.
16:26I think we can do it.
16:27Let's not patronize.
16:27I think we can do it.
16:29Let's not patronize.
16:30I see him.
16:31He's doing the Grinch thing.
16:32Let's not patronize.
16:34Come on, dude.
16:36It's obvious that a resolution is not going to be reached here between Tal and Buddy.
16:41My only hope is that we can all be in the same room together without disaster for future
16:48important events, and that's really all I'm hoping for this friend group, so the bar is
16:54extremely low.
16:56I wish the best for you, dude, truly.
16:58I want everybody to have everything they want.
17:01I don't wish the best for you.
17:03All right.
17:04Hell of a therapist, dude.
17:05You should be fired.
17:06Good thing that's not up to you.
17:08I want to say one thing.
17:09I'm done here.
17:09Okay, let me just-
17:11I think we're all done.
17:11No, let me just-
17:12Let me just-
17:13Child.
17:14Okay.
17:17Bye.
17:18Bye.
17:39I can't see.
17:44You can put the gifts down.
17:47Put them on the ground.
17:49In the grass?
17:50Yeah.
17:50It has been a few days since the mediation with Tal and Buddy, and I hope that they have
17:55had a chance to calm down because Todd and I are throwing a joint 41st birthday party, and
18:02I think it would be great if everyone could exercise some chill.
18:06Oh!
18:07Oh!
18:08Oh!
18:09Sorry.
18:10They're here for me.
18:11Okay.
18:12Oh crap.
18:13Okay, so I'm a Taurus, and I'm very true to my son.
18:16So, you mess with the horns, you'll get the bull.
18:19And the bullhorn.
18:20I see that.
18:21I see what you did there.
18:22I know, right?
18:23So, you're an Aquarius, and Dad's an Aquarius, and I think Dad blew you out of the water,
18:26so to speak.
18:27Ooh.
18:28Ooh.
18:29Yeah.
18:30The theme of this party is astrological, so I've instructed everyone to show up as their
18:34sign.
18:35Well, we're waiting on Todd, of course.
18:37I feel a little bit nervous because I've made some important decisions, and I want to tell
18:42all of my family and friends at the same time, but I am freaking out a little bit about how
18:47my news is going to be received.
18:49I hope nobody cries.
18:52Hello!
18:53Hello!
18:54After you.
18:55Oh, are you a Libra?
18:57Mm-hmm.
18:58Oh, hello.
18:59Hello.
19:00How's it going?
19:01Good to see all of your horns.
19:02It's wild.
19:03Thanks.
19:04Hello.
19:05Another crab.
19:06Oh, my gosh.
19:07Am I late?
19:08The third crab.
19:09Right on time.
19:10Happy birthday.
19:13I would normally say that I don't like drama, but apparently I have two nemesises, nemesi,
19:21at this party, Ashley and Buddy.
19:24I mean, I can't believe that Buddy is even here.
19:26If I were Whitney, I wouldn't have invited him after that mediation, but it's not my party.
19:31You look beautiful.
19:33Like a goddess.
19:34Oh, thank you.
19:35Of some sort.
19:36You do look beautiful.
19:38I love your dress.
19:39Thanks.
19:40If this party could go, like, my way, Tal and I just would keep our distance from one another,
19:49but not in a way that feels malicious.
19:51I don't want to make up.
19:53This is a boundary that I want to have.
19:55Where's Jessica?
19:56Justin has the air out of town.
19:57Aw.
19:58Oh, happy birthday, Todd.
19:59Happy birthday.
20:00Okay, Todd, come here.
20:01Todd and I are both Aries.
20:04We were born three days apart.
20:06We are the ram.
20:08I'm the big boy.
20:09I don't follow a trilogy because it's not real.
20:10All right, let's eat.
20:11It's hard to say which one of us would be more textbook Aries, especially because I'm not consulting
20:24a textbook at the moment.
20:26I don't want to get my claw in the slaw.
20:29Whitney, watch out.
20:30I'm hunting for my wife's dinner.
20:34I must kill it and bring it home.
20:36What are you pointing at?
20:37You want the crab or the ram?
20:39No, not the crab.
20:40He walked in the way.
20:42I've had some bad birthdays in my life, but with all of the interpersonal conflict brewing,
20:49this has the potential to honestly be the worst birthday I've ever had.
21:00It does mean a lot to me that on this day of our birth, even though we don't all like
21:16each other, you all still like me.
21:17And me.
21:18Cheers.
21:19Thank you so much.
21:20Cheers.
21:21I had to process that.
21:22This is my joint 41st birthday with Todd, and everyone has come dressed as their astrological
21:27sign.
21:28There are lots of horns and claws and bows and arrows and water.
21:34So I just hope that everybody can keep their pinchers to themselves.
21:40Thank you guys for doing this.
21:42Yeah, this is amazing.
21:43I feel like it's my birthday.
21:45I don't think Ashley is going to initiate reconnecting with me.
21:50She's not really making eye contact or talking to me.
21:55I know tonight is not about us.
21:56It's Whitney's birthday, but I would like it if we had some kind of friendly exchange.
22:01If I have to be the one to make it happen, I'll initiate the reconnection and see how it
22:07goes.
22:08I have something to say.
22:12I just wanted to say to Ashley that it's very nice to see you and I hope that you are well.
22:22Thank you, Tao.
22:23I acknowledge that that's not the easiest thing to say in this environment, and I appreciate that.
22:30You know they say if a friendship lasts longer than seven years, it's likely to last for
22:35life, and I guess that we really blew that one out of the water.
22:38You got me for life, dude.
22:39I guess we should make up.
22:40Is that a joke to you?
22:43Um, I mean, I think we would be doing ourselves a disservice if we were like, okay, we're BFFs
22:51again.
22:52Like that doesn't, you're a therapist, you know that.
22:54Like things take time, people grow, people.
22:57And it's not to say like we'll never get back there.
23:02I just don't know.
23:03I have to wonder if we weren't part of the same friends group, would Tao still want to
23:13mend things?
23:14Like, is this just for the ease of the group or does he miss me as his friend, you know?
23:22Wait, I have one more thing to say.
23:24What's that?
23:25So there's somebody else here that I had an interaction with recently that did not go
23:29very smoothly.
23:30While my feelings and opinions and views and beliefs have not changed, I have nothing
23:40but love in my heart for you, buddy, and I wish you well.
23:43Bad gadget.
23:44Are you saying that I won the mediation?
23:45Hell no.
23:46Absolutely not.
23:49I did that.
23:51Okay.
23:52No.
23:53So we have love in our heart.
23:54No, you made no valid points.
23:56I do wish I had kept my cool at the mediation.
23:59I definitely said some things that a calmer me wouldn't have.
24:05Moving forward, I guess the friendship is salvageable.
24:08Like, it's all good on my end.
24:10We're good.
24:11Maybe we can do a little therapeutic weekend or something.
24:15It's kind of hard for me because I think about next year and I wonder if, you know, any of
24:24us will even be together again.
24:26You know they say if a friendship...
24:27Any of us?
24:28Any of us?
24:29Well, not in this capacity.
24:30I mean, like, as a whole.
24:31Okay.
24:32So on that note, I have an announcement.
24:35I know you all know that I have been trying to get pregnant and I have now been through
24:40my second insemination.
24:42Are you pregnant?
24:43No.
24:44You okay?
24:45I guess.
24:46I just want to say I am a little heartbroken for you because I know how much you wanted to
24:55be a mom.
24:56Oh, Karen.
24:57What's up?
24:58What's up?
25:01So, because I'm not pregnant, I have made the decision to pivot.
25:08And I thank you so much for coming to my birthday party.
25:11But the truth is, it's not really just a birthday party.
25:13It's also a goodbye party because I'm moving.
25:17I signed a lease in Salem and I'm moving.
25:20Ah.
25:22The moving truck is coming here in two days and I'm gone.
25:25Two days?
25:26Yes.
25:27I've been there.
25:28Oh, because I love it.
25:29Yeah.
25:30I knew it.
25:31Are you moving this good or are you taking a vacation?
25:32Like, I knew it.
25:33No, I mean, I signed a lease.
25:34Like, um, how long did that without?
25:35Why would you sign a lease already?
25:37Have you really thought about this?
25:40Of course I've really thought about it.
25:42What about Glenn?
25:43What about your dad?
25:44This is a lot of information to process immediately.
25:51So, I don't really know what to say.
25:54Well, obviously I probably will miss Whitney more than anybody since we have been living together for two years since Bab passed away.
26:02But as a parent, we always want our child to be happy.
26:06You know, it hurts me a lot that, uh, Whitney is, uh, not pregnant because I know she's tried very hard.
26:13But, um, if Whitney has better opportunities someplace else, maybe a move like that would be great for her.
26:19You know when you feel like you know something and then it happens and you're like, I knew it?
26:24That's, like, the moment that I'm in right now and I am, um...
26:27I didn't think you were gonna be upset.
26:28I was literally gonna ask you if you wanted to come up with me this weekend to drive up with me.
26:32Like, what kind of friend do you think that I am that I wouldn't be upset that you're moving, like, hundreds of miles away in two days?
26:40I just, I just feel like there's, like, it's anger.
26:43I don't really know why everyone is so shocked.
26:45I've been looking into ways to have a child for years, like, adoption, I froze my eggs, insemination.
26:51It was obviously a last-ditch effort and it's not working.
26:54I'm 41 now and if I can't be a mom, then I have to choose a different path and I think Salem is a perfect choice.
27:01This was a big bond to drive.
27:02It's just sudden. That's all it is.
27:03I think it should have been on rollercoaster.
27:04Okay, what I don't understand exactly, though, is how we don't even have a friend group anymore.
27:08We're literally not even friends. Like, none of us are ever friends.
27:10How can you count the people at this table who showed up for you tonight?
27:13No, but I'm sad. I just, I'm so sorry. I did not expect this.
27:16I thought everybody was gonna be like, oh, hell yeah, how fun. We're gonna play games.
27:19I'm sorry, you're moving, like, up the coast in two days and you thought we'd be like, yay, girl.
27:24Yes, and all of a sudden everybody's acting like I'm ripping everything apart.
27:28It's two days.
27:31I just feel like Whitney got this negative pregnancy test and she so wanted to be a mom that her brain immediately went to, like, what's the next biggest thing?
27:43I mean, this is a pattern for Whitney.
27:46She left for Korea for four years.
27:48She moved to Charlotte.
27:50It just feels like she gets dissatisfied with her life and she runs away from home.
27:57That doesn't feel healthy to me.
28:00You, like, met Sabrina and Corinne and you were like, these are way better than my current friends.
28:07Okay. All right. Well, you know, like, the hesitation is, I think, pretty much all I needed.
28:17I'm gonna leave before I finish this.
28:21You're gonna leave before you finish anything because you're leaving in two days.
28:30I have absolutely no idea why Ashley has taken this so personally.
28:36Like, why is she reacting like this now?
28:40Sorry, I thought...
28:41Can we help you clean up or anything?
28:43No, it's fine.
28:44Thank you for coming and thank you for bringing the presents and everything.
28:47I really appreciate it.
28:48Let us know if we can help you with packing or anything.
28:52Thank you, buddy.
28:53Am I surprised that my sister wants to leave Greensboro?
28:58No.
29:00I mean, I wish that she would stay here with my dad.
29:03I think we've all kind of gotten used to the arrangement.
29:06Whitney being here and looking out for him.
29:08Hey, it's a shock, but I support you, all right?
29:11But I could also understand why she would want to, you know, get out.
29:15I wanted to get out, and I did.
29:19You know, I just think about how bad you want a baby,
29:22and you've already started everything here,
29:24and if you leave, like, are you gonna run out of time of having a baby?
29:28I've already tried.
29:29If I could just snap my fingers and get pregnant, I would be.
29:32I just don't want you to make a decision you regret.
29:35This is what I'm doing, and I'm not gonna regret it.
29:41To be on the precipice of a new decision...
29:45I'm gonna let you be.
29:47I love you.
29:48I love you, too.
29:49And a new path in life.
29:50Like, you really just want your friends and family to be supportive of you,
29:53and when your friends are, like, questioning your decision,
29:57it really puts a damper on the whole thing.
30:00If it's gonna make other people this upset...
30:03I know you're disappointed that you haven't gotten pregnant,
30:10and I know how much you want to,
30:12so you are gonna try again, aren't you?
30:14Having this talk with my dad is very upsetting, honestly.
30:18I thought I had come to my own conclusion,
30:20and now I just feel really confused again.
30:22Guys, I got you some water.
30:40I appreciate that.
30:41I know it's a lot of stuff.
30:44It's probably a little bit more than I needed,
30:47but pretty much all this stuff is going...
30:49What is all this?
30:50It's pictures, it's bathroom, it's china, it's guest room.
30:54I still can't believe you're moving.
30:56When I said I was moving in two days, I meant it.
30:59I have spent the past 24 hours in a packing frenzy.
31:03The plan is pretty simple.
31:04My dad is still gonna live here, Todd is still gonna live here,
31:07until I figure out what my next steps are gonna be.
31:10And who knows?
31:11Maybe I'll decide that I want to sell this house
31:13and buy a house up there,
31:14and maybe Todd and Dad will want to move a beer with me.
31:17Like, who knows?
31:18At this point, I feel like anything is possible.
31:22Dad, I had to do it.
31:24It is the most beautiful waterfront property.
31:28Waterfront?
31:29Waterfront.
31:30Pet friendly.
31:33I can't believe that Whitney is, like, already moving.
31:36I feel like it's just happening so quickly,
31:38and, like, I'm just getting backlash.
31:39She's here.
31:40She knows she'll be there.
31:41I know that Whitney thinks that this town is boring,
31:44and she's, like, itching to get out to meet new people,
31:48but I feel like it's just not something that's gonna last long term.
31:52I bet Whitney will come home before I actually have a chance
31:55to, like, mourn her loss from her absence.
32:00That's gonna be it.
32:01All right, well.
32:02Well.
32:03Well.
32:04I'll leave y'all to it.
32:05Okay.
32:06Love you.
32:07Love you.
32:08I'll text you when I get there.
32:09Mmm.
32:10Mmm.
32:11Love you.
32:12Love you.
32:13Bye, Glenn.
32:14See ya.
32:15Thanks for coming over and helping.
32:16Bye.
32:17Bye.
32:18Well, I'm gonna miss you when you're gone.
32:20Mm-hmm.
32:21I can get along by myself.
32:23If you need me to come home, I'll be home.
32:25No.
32:26I mean, no, I'm fine.
32:27You're so routine-oriented, right?
32:29Like, would you ever actually move?
32:31Probably not.
32:32Well, you have Todd.
32:34Well, I'm comfortable in Greensboro.
32:39I've lived here, you know, the majority of my life, and I've got friends here, and Karen
32:45and Hunter are close by, but I don't want to hold Whitney back from pursuing something
32:50new if that's what she wants.
32:52Goosey will be gone.
32:53Todd will start walking you around the block.
32:55I might have to go out and get another Goosey, keep him occupied.
32:59Oh.
33:00The good thing about Todd is he's always cleaning and cooking, and it's like having a butler
33:06around, but you never see him.
33:09Thank you for bringing the baby bed over.
33:12Killed me seeing all that stuff and going through those boxes, and then I was looking
33:17at pictures, and I just thought, like, you and Mommy gave us, like, such a good childhood.
33:23And to think that you guys had me when you were about my age, 39.
33:27Yeah.
33:28That could be me doing that.
33:29I can't even fathom what it would take.
33:34If you have a child, it becomes real easy.
33:36I mean, you get real devoted, and it's life-changing for sure.
33:40And it's the greatest time of your life.
33:42It's a really big blessing.
33:45Yeah, it's hard to think about not having that, you know?
33:53I know you're disappointed that you haven't gotten pregnant, and I know how much you want
33:58to, so you are going to try again, aren't you?
34:02I think you owe it to yourself to give it one more try.
34:06Having this talk with my dad is just, it's very upsetting, honestly.
34:12I did pay for a third vial of sperm, and if I want it, it can be sent to me.
34:18But with the emotional rollercoaster that I've been on, and with my PCOS, and with the fact
34:23that the artificial insemination has failed twice, I don't know that I even want to do
34:29it for the third time.
34:30It's like I thought I had come to my own conclusion, and now I just feel really confused again.
34:36I'm going to keep my fingers crossed, and hopefully it'll turn out like you want.
34:44Yeah.
34:45I don't like to see Whitney so defeated for not getting pregnant.
34:51I want Whitney to try while she can.
34:54I don't want her to look back sometime in the future and have any regrets.
35:05Look, I got the road trip bags.
35:07I got us a camera.
35:08Stop.
35:09Not a disposable.
35:10Yeah.
35:11Hello.
35:12Hello.
35:13Lord child, Ashley walking in with that look on her face, honey.
35:17This is about to be a long drive to Massachusetts.
35:24No good seat, your back seat.
35:36Your back seat baby.
35:38Well, hello.
35:41How's it going?
35:43I am embarking on a 13 hour road trip to my new home in Salem, Massachusetts.
35:49And Jessica agreed to come with me, and she actually loves to drive.
35:53So I'm like, yes, girl.
35:54Take the driver's seat, and Goosey and I will feel the wind in our hair.
35:59Oh, I thought that was Ashley in the car.
36:01Hey, Goosey girl.
36:02I don't think Ashley's coming.
36:04What do you mean?
36:05Tell Jessica what happened at party.
36:07Well, it was just, uh...
36:10Well, Ashley got a little like, she was sad that Whitney was leaving.
36:13She was shocked.
36:14She was upset.
36:16She was upset.
36:17She was upset.
36:18I also extended the road trip invitation to Ashley.
36:21Obviously, after what happened at the birthday, I have no idea what to expect.
36:26I'm assuming she's not showing up today, and I'm really sad, actually, that that was our goodbye.
36:32It was very awkward.
36:33What is she upset about?
36:34It's like somebody who pulled out the rug from beneath her.
36:36Maybe it was a little more along the lines of, she might have been jealous that, you know, Whitney's getting to go off and do her thing, and maybe she's not, you know...
36:43Is that what she said?
36:44She didn't say that, but I mean...
36:46That's what you think.
36:47I go out of town for one weekend and miss all the drama.
36:52At the end, I told everybody, like I told you I was gonna tell them, that I won't pregnant, that I was leaving.
36:56She said, I have an announcement, so we were all like...
36:58And then she was...
36:59Oh, so they thought it was a pregnancy.
37:00I don't know.
37:01Of course, to be fair, I was the first one to know that Whitney was gonna be moving to Salem.
37:06I mean, I was with her when she picked out the condo.
37:08So I don't know.
37:09Maybe it's the abruptness of Whitney saying, oh, I'm moving in two days.
37:15Now that I'm saying it out loud, of course that's what it is.
37:18So yeah, I guess I can get that part of it.
37:21Look, I got the road trip bags.
37:23I got us a camera.
37:24Stop, not a disposable.
37:26Yeah, a scrunchie in case you need it.
37:28Painkillers.
37:29Okay.
37:30Lip balm.
37:31Other few earplugs for where we're sleeping.
37:34Okay.
37:37Hello.
37:38Hello.
37:39Good morning.
37:43Lord child, Ashley walking in with that look on her face, honey.
37:47This is about to be a long drive to Massachusetts.
37:52See what your previous mile time was and we'll see.
37:55We won't necessarily try to beat the time.
37:57I am on this with you.
37:58Yeah, I mean, I think it'd be hard for you to beat it.
38:00Am I happy about this move?
38:05Obviously not.
38:07But here I am, for better or worse.
38:11Love you.
38:12Love you.
38:13I'm gonna miss you.
38:14I'll miss you too.
38:15I don't know if I'm glad that Ashley's here or not.
38:18She is very pissed and very not shy about it.
38:22But I don't want that to taint my goodbye with my dad.
38:25I'm moving to a new state.
38:27I'm embarking on something that should be really fun and exciting.
38:30And I want to focus on that.
38:32Okay.
38:33Take that with you.
38:34Okay.
38:35All right.
38:36Love you.
38:37Love you.
38:38Bye-bye.
38:39Bye-bye.
38:40Bye-bye.
38:41You guys be safe.
38:42We will be.
38:45Reality is starting to hit in that she's gonna be gone for a while.
38:49And I got mixed emotions.
38:51I'm gonna miss her.
38:52Especially when Babs passed away, you know, Whitney and I became so close to each other.
38:58So, you know, this ends up being sort of an end to that chapter and another one starting.
39:06So, let me tell you about the party.
39:09Lord Jesus.
39:10Buddy and Tal, I thought they were gonna blow up into Ficus.
39:14They didn't.
39:15Did they have any exchanges at all?
39:17Oh, my God.
39:18The mediation between Buddy and Tal on my porch, I thought I was going to die.
39:24It was the most horrible hour of my life.
39:28There were personal attacks.
39:30Buddy was talking about, Tal, you shouldn't be a therapist.
39:33You should have your license revoked.
39:35Then, Tal was like, you're jealous.
39:39It's because you're jealous.
39:41I actually wanted to be on another planet.
39:44I didn't know what was about to happen when they both showed up at that party.
39:47I wish you were there, Jessica.
39:49During the party, Tal said he hoped I was doing well and I just didn't know what to say.
39:56I was like, thank you.
39:58But, I mean, we haven't talked in literal years and my options were to be mature or to be like,
40:06don't talk to me in front of, you know, these 15 people sitting here at the table.
40:11And like, so I don't know.
40:12I just felt a little bit on the spot, but I did really appreciate it.
40:17Okay.
40:18Well, that's not really drama.
40:19Um, that wasn't.
40:22Was there drama?
40:25I mean, I guess it depends, like, who you ask.
40:32It's a little awkward to fill Jessica in on everything at the birthday while just ignoring the biggest drama, which was Ashley getting super pissed at me.
40:48But if Ashley doesn't want to talk about it, then that's fine with me.
40:52I mean, she's really not including me personally in any conversation anyway.
40:57So, do we have an itinerary for this trip?
41:02She just decided this, like, what, two days ago.
41:04So, I mean, couldn't have had too much time, huh?
41:07Mm-hmm.
41:08Mm-hmm.
41:09Mm-hmm.
41:10Mm-hmm.
41:11With every minute that I'm sitting in this back seat, I'm just, like, a little more angry.
41:16If I had to guess, Whitney thinks I overreacted at the party and that I'm wrong.
41:21And now I'm wondering if I made a mistake coming on this trip.
41:25Yeah, so no problems here.
41:32We've just got, uh, 13 more hours in the car.
41:35My GPS would rightfully have me believe that we are just headed up I-85.
41:40But if you ask me, this is the highway to hell.
41:43This is the highway to hell.
41:52You have to understand that telling me, like, you're gonna regret this really just makes me feel like .
41:57Next time on My Big Fat Fabulous Life.
42:00There's something between us.
42:01Forget men.
42:02Have you considered just seeing how things could go with a woman?
42:05I would be interested.
42:07We'll see.
42:08There may be a lot of life changes on the horizon.
42:10You can stay here.
42:12I just don't know how much more I can take.
42:15Yeah, I know.
42:16I do have a lot of responsibilities to my husband.
42:20But I just feel like I need a break.
42:22Have you talked to Dad?
42:24I've been calling him all day.
42:25He hasn't answered me.
42:26Hunter, get in there!
42:27Call 911.
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