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90 Day Fiancé Happily Ever After Season 9 Episode 20
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00:00:00Previously on part one of 90 Day Fiancé
00:00:04Happily Ever After, Tell All No Limits.
00:00:07Javi's in the pool throwing balls like a dog.
00:00:09He's probably drunk already.
00:00:11What's going on with Lauren and Elizabeth?
00:00:14I'm good with Lauren, but with Elizabeth and Andre, no,
00:00:17because they blame us for everything.
00:00:19What Gino still doesn't get is that I am not the same person.
00:00:24I'm not the broken Jasmine who couldn't regulate her emotions.
00:00:29My man's worth, asshole.
00:00:33You're a fraud, you're a Sarah.
00:00:36Oh my God, who hasn't had an ex?
00:00:37Dear God.
00:00:42Look at my boobs.
00:00:43People are saying I did plastic surgery.
00:00:47But I am a pregnant.
00:00:48I'm six months right now.
00:00:50In the house, nobody knows me.
00:00:52I'm afraid to say.
00:00:55How you doing?
00:00:56Stop.
00:00:57You touched my arm like that.
00:00:58Why not?
00:00:59We are not fighting enough for the relationship.
00:01:03You speak for yourself.
00:01:06Let's talk about the text messages.
00:01:08Andre, what exactly did you find out
00:01:11from reading these logs?
00:01:12Plenty of material, Sean.
00:01:14She says, Alex compares me to other women.
00:01:17He goes around the bar.
00:01:18He doesn't want to come home.
00:01:20What the is wrong with you?
00:01:21Why you miss everybody around you?
00:01:23You're putting your panties in a bunch of shoving up your ass.
00:01:25Hey, let's go outside.
00:01:26Let's fight.
00:01:27I don't give a .
00:01:28What?
00:01:29Andre!
00:01:30Let's go.
00:01:31Come on.
00:01:33Come on.
00:01:43Let's fight.
00:01:43I don't give a .
00:01:45Andre, calm down.
00:01:47Why are you running your mouth?
00:01:49You crazy?
00:01:51Yara, do you want to weigh in on this?
00:01:55Everything is like a big mess.
00:01:57You don't react.
00:01:59What can we tell about that?
00:02:00How can we just get a word in between that?
00:02:01Well, you sit there and stir the pot,
00:02:02and then you sit back quiet.
00:02:03Why didn't we stir the pot?
00:02:04Like, say something about it.
00:02:06You were there.
00:02:11So, Yara and Jovi, who do you think takes the blame
00:02:15for the conflict between these two?
00:02:18So listen, I think it's a lot of wrong on everyone's part,
00:02:20right?
00:02:21I mean, y'all went behind her back and exposed information.
00:02:25Yeah.
00:02:25Y'all.
00:02:26Which is a little unfair.
00:02:26Y'all.
00:02:27No, y'all.
00:02:28You sure about the y'all part?
00:02:30Andre, let's say that.
00:02:32Andre, that was not right what you did to her.
00:02:34What you tell about Alex, about body shame,
00:02:36when you did him dirty, that was not right.
00:02:40Elizabeth, why do you think that Yara and Jovi
00:02:44are stirring the pot in this situation?
00:02:48When I saw them at Lake Placid, how they're, like,
00:02:50playing a double game here, then I'm like, hold on a minute.
00:02:53What's going on here?
00:02:54Which double game?
00:02:54Aren't you putting me in the middle when you say
00:02:56that I say that?
00:02:57She said he was a horrible person.
00:02:59I never said that.
00:03:00You lie about that.
00:03:02I never said that.
00:03:02I did not lie about that.
00:03:04Maybe it was Jovi that said it.
00:03:06That was said.
00:03:06Do you think I made that out of these ?
00:03:09Who called me a horrible person?
00:03:10I don't know if that was said or when it was said.
00:03:12I've never said that.
00:03:13Nobody.
00:03:14Nobody.
00:03:15But why did you apologize to it?
00:03:16That's what I don't understand.
00:03:17Exactly.
00:03:17I apologize.
00:03:18I'm a victim.
00:03:18I apologize.
00:03:19You can't recall.
00:03:20I called him a dick.
00:03:21I called your best friend a horrible man.
00:03:23All I'm doing is apologizing, apologizing, apologizing.
00:03:25I'm sorry I called you a dick.
00:03:27I'm sorry your butt hurt over it.
00:03:28I'm so sorry.
00:03:29Okay, your butt hurt .
00:03:30Like, you apologized to like places.
00:03:31But that's not a real apology.
00:03:32I kept apologizing for 20 times.
00:03:36Like, how many more times can I apologize?
00:03:40Oh, my gosh.
00:03:42God.
00:03:42This comes down.
00:03:43Benzona.
00:03:45Wow.
00:03:47You and I are connected on like, oh, we're not fake.
00:03:50We don't like plastic surgery.
00:03:51We don't like Botox.
00:03:53We don't like fillers.
00:03:54We don't agree with that stuff, right?
00:03:56We're like, most Florida women like that stuff.
00:03:58We're not like those girls.
00:03:59Yes.
00:04:00Right?
00:04:00It's true.
00:04:01And then you're like, I'm getting a tummy tuck.
00:04:03Yeah.
00:04:04And I'm going to get this liposuction, this, that, that.
00:04:06I was confused.
00:04:07I've never wanted that stuff.
00:04:09But after I had my three kids, I did need the tummy tuck
00:04:12because I had the abdominal diastasis,
00:04:14which I openly shared with the world.
00:04:18My stomach was not reattaching.
00:04:19So you connected on the wrong thing, right?
00:04:21No, we connected on the fact that we bitched
00:04:24about our husbands to each other.
00:04:26Fact.
00:04:26We bitched about getting hate on social media to each other.
00:04:29Fact.
00:04:30And also that our husbands can be similar with their Eastern
00:04:35European descent.
00:04:35No, I'm not similar.
00:04:36And just, no, me neither.
00:04:37I think just the alpha male.
00:04:39We would send each other, for instance,
00:04:41funny pictures of being, what are you doing today?
00:04:43Nothing.
00:04:44They think a housewife is sitting around doing nothing.
00:04:46So we would always laugh and be like, oh, we're doing nothing.
00:04:48What are you doing?
00:04:49Nothing.
00:04:49On my way to get the kids.
00:04:51On my way to do the laundry.
00:04:52To do the laundry.
00:04:53To have a friend to bitch about your husband.
00:04:56It is therapeutic.
00:04:57It's so therapeutic.
00:04:58I do it with Julia all the time.
00:05:01And you better never log in into our text, Brandon.
00:05:06You don't want to see it.
00:05:09What about squashing it out?
00:05:11What?
00:05:12What's squashing?
00:05:12Like, when we went into Lake Placid,
00:05:14suppose you're sorry for your behavior of your, like,
00:05:17how it was, it went down.
00:05:18What happened to this, like, sorry?
00:05:20Like, what happened to it?
00:05:22You just, like, said sorry, just throw it around?
00:05:24We made amends.
00:05:25We talked it out, whatever.
00:05:26And then Jovi comes up to me at the very end of the night,
00:05:29because apparently you, before we went out,
00:05:32told them that I was making fun of Yara
00:05:35and talking about her clothes and this and that.
00:05:37So I literally just found out right then and there,
00:05:40which is why I stormed off, because I was so done.
00:05:45Elizabeth, you told Yara that Lauren made fun of her clothes.
00:05:51Is that right?
00:05:52Made fun of her clothes?
00:05:53Yes.
00:05:54No, I don't think I used those words.
00:05:54You never said that.
00:05:56No.
00:05:57I said that she discusses her clothes.
00:05:59I never said she made fun of her.
00:06:01There was that before we went to the bar.
00:06:03I said, just beware.
00:06:04You're getting close to her.
00:06:07We actually have that clip.
00:06:09Let's watch.
00:06:12Yeah, I don't know.
00:06:13Like, I wasn't going to say anything,
00:06:15but she was just saying, you're just,
00:06:18Miami got to your head.
00:06:20And just nasty comments about you and, like,
00:06:22things that you wear.
00:06:23Oh, nice.
00:06:24Oh, that's lovely.
00:06:25Just tread lightly, be cautious.
00:06:27That's all I'm saying.
00:06:28I just don't want you to get hurt in the long run.
00:06:31Oh, she did.
00:06:34Straightforward.
00:06:35Bitches are fake.
00:06:41So, Elizabeth, do you stand by those comments?
00:06:43Absolutely.
00:06:44OK.
00:06:45Because she did say those things.
00:06:47Though, again, sharing personal conversations,
00:06:50but you don't talk about me.
00:06:51Is that not girl code?
00:06:53Should I not warn another girl that another girl's
00:06:55talking about her?
00:06:56Should I not warn her about that?
00:06:59I forget about it.
00:07:00As a new person in Miami looking to make genuine friends?
00:07:03Just me.
00:07:04Well, you don't live in Miami, thank God so.
00:07:09Lauren, don't think this in the wrong way,
00:07:10but you tell this to many people,
00:07:12that Miami is get to my head.
00:07:15You tell this to many people.
00:07:16I don't think I say it like that,
00:07:17but I think you fit very well in Miami.
00:07:20Like, I cannot see you in Louisiana.
00:07:23I have said this before to her.
00:07:26She probably, she said whatever she said,
00:07:28and it is what it is.
00:07:33Elizabeth, you stand by telling Yara to watch out for Lauren.
00:07:39Of course.
00:07:42Especially now, how she treated this whole situation.
00:07:45I don't trust you.
00:07:47What did I do?
00:07:47She couldn't explain.
00:07:49I told her I had nothing to do with it.
00:07:50Time and time again, she says it's not true,
00:07:52but still mad at me, still doesn't trust me.
00:07:55So what did I do here?
00:07:55I don't understand.
00:07:56So that is a person that you cannot trust.
00:07:58And so I removed myself.
00:08:00But you think that Yara should not trust Lauren?
00:08:03Of course not.
00:08:03I didn't say trust.
00:08:05I didn't use that word.
00:08:05You just said it.
00:08:06You just said it.
00:08:06You just said it.
00:08:09Makes sense.
00:08:10You are so twisted on all your lies and all your conspiracies
00:08:14and thoughts.
00:08:14You hurt us.
00:08:16We came here as your friends.
00:08:18We were fine.
00:08:19And we had conversations thinking we
00:08:21had an understanding of what was going on.
00:08:23So there's no feelings hurt.
00:08:25Yeah, so there's no feelings hurt.
00:08:26But there's feelings hurt because nobody's
00:08:28on the same page besides them.
00:08:31Wait, one more thing.
00:08:32I was told that apparently Elizabeth and Andre
00:08:35told Yara and Jovi that they had to choose between us
00:08:38or Yara and Jovi.
00:08:41I think I said it.
00:08:42Well, I don't know.
00:08:43You said it.
00:08:43Yeah.
00:08:44When I said, hey, listen, you have to choose
00:08:46because you're playing a double game.
00:08:47Put your money where your mouth is.
00:08:49Like, who is your, who are you really friends with?
00:08:50Your friend or your friend.
00:08:52Because you're like, it seems like there's
00:08:53a lot of fakeness going on.
00:08:54So I was like, OK, let's figure it out.
00:08:56I don't think that it's fair to put you in a position.
00:08:59Choose.
00:08:59Like, are we in high school?
00:09:02OK, well, let me just ask very quickly.
00:09:04Yara.
00:09:05Yeah.
00:09:06Are you friends with Lauren?
00:09:09Yeah.
00:09:10Are you friends with Elizabeth?
00:09:13I mean, I don't know.
00:09:15I'm not sure.
00:09:18OK.
00:09:19It's clear that feelings are hurt and emotions are high.
00:09:22So we're going to pause this conversation for right now
00:09:24and let everybody cool down.
00:09:27We will touch base later.
00:09:28And we will be joined by Lauren's friend, Noga.
00:09:32Oh, my god.
00:09:33Ring her on.
00:09:35We are going to call it a day for right now.
00:09:37Have a great night, everybody.
00:09:39Oh.
00:09:41I'm so embarrassed.
00:09:42I'm so upset that I yelled.
00:09:43Yeah, we should keep our composure.
00:09:44But they really think they did nothing wrong.
00:09:47And that's really up.
00:09:48Is the bartender going to be there tonight?
00:09:49Yeah, I made a drink ready.
00:09:50Took him to make 10 margaritas.
00:09:51It seems like, you know, like between me and Jovi,
00:10:08even though, you know, like it was frozen bottles,
00:10:11I think we pretty much were squared up.
00:10:13You had a conversation with Jovi.
00:10:14We didn't have a conversation.
00:10:15You guys should do the same thing, I think.
00:10:18With who?
00:10:18You and your other.
00:10:20Yeah, yeah.
00:10:21It's not acting like teenagers, I mean, come on.
00:10:24All right, everybody, please get changed,
00:10:26and then you can head to the house.
00:10:28I don't like drama.
00:10:29Yeah, this is like a lot more to do with Lauren and Alex
00:10:31and Elizabeth and Andre.
00:10:33We're in the middle.
00:10:34I'm just trying to be friends with both of them.
00:10:35That's it.
00:10:37We'll see you at the house.
00:10:38See you at the house.
00:10:40This house is going to get crazy.
00:10:42I'm going to the house.
00:10:44I think it's going to be OK, because today,
00:10:47all the bad stuff happened.
00:10:48So now, I feel pretty confident that it's
00:10:50going to be less Gino and Jasmine drama.
00:10:52I'm hoping.
00:10:55Today was the longest day.
00:10:56I have a lot of relief that I'm done.
00:10:59Jasmine is good to get in everybody's heads.
00:11:01Exactly.
00:11:01Hello.
00:11:02She's so good at that.
00:11:03Now I feel bad for Matt.
00:11:05Well, listen, he proposed whatever would have straightened
00:11:07or whatever the that was, but she should have said yes,
00:11:09or just move on, you know, co-parent, and that's it.
00:11:13Gino, how do you feel about Natalie?
00:11:16She's pretty.
00:11:17Oh, thank you.
00:11:17She has a good heart.
00:11:19You hate me with her.
00:11:20You giggling, farting.
00:11:21Well, let me tell you something.
00:11:23She treats me very good, and she doesn't fight with me.
00:11:27That's nice.
00:11:28You fresh start.
00:11:30Yes.
00:11:38Oh, .
00:11:39Oh, God.
00:11:40Tony, I'm home.
00:11:43I'm ready.
00:11:45Come on, let's go ahead and hear you.
00:11:49Are you saying prayer before you?
00:11:50Oh, OK.
00:11:51Let's do a little prayer.
00:11:51You want to say prayer?
00:11:53You want to start?
00:11:56Let's do it.
00:11:57Let's do it.
00:11:58Thank you, God, for the day today.
00:12:02And Gino's, what are you grateful for today?
00:12:05Say what you're grateful.
00:12:07Well, I'm grateful that I got through today, and I feel like I can move forward again in
00:12:15my life.
00:12:16Praise God.
00:12:17Thank you, Lord, for protecting us and giving us grace to continue on these journeys that
00:12:22we live.
00:12:23Amen.
00:12:24Amen.
00:12:25We just had a good prayer.
00:12:26We just had a good prayer.
00:12:27What's a good prayer?
00:12:28I like that.
00:12:29I like that.
00:12:30I like that.
00:12:31And what we're grateful for.
00:12:32Do you want a knife?
00:12:35So what are you guys feeling?
00:12:38How was this today?
00:12:39I was shocked, you know, all the commotion.
00:12:42And I didn't expect that between Lauren, Alexa, and you two after a five-year friendship.
00:12:47I didn't expect it either, honestly.
00:12:49Well, you didn't.
00:12:50Yeah, you didn't.
00:12:51Nope.
00:12:52Andre, were you being a dick?
00:12:53Probably.
00:12:54I know.
00:12:55Be careful.
00:12:56Where's the kitchen, honey?
00:12:57Starving.
00:12:58What in the hell has gone on here?
00:12:59Let me guess.
00:13:00Georgie's losing.
00:13:01Wow.
00:13:02Now we are talking.
00:13:03Hey.
00:13:04I'm here.
00:13:05Okay.
00:13:06Let's go.
00:13:07Let's go.
00:13:08Oh!
00:13:09Hey.
00:13:10Yeah, Gino!
00:13:11Almost.
00:13:12I'm here.
00:13:13I'm here.
00:13:14Let's go.
00:13:15Let's go.
00:13:16Oh!
00:13:17Hey.
00:13:18Yeah, Gino!
00:13:19Almost.
00:13:20I'm here.
00:13:21Yeah, Gino!
00:13:22Almost.
00:13:23Let's go get some shots, dude.
00:13:24These people don't know how to play.
00:13:25Yeah, right?
00:13:26I don't know.
00:13:28We spent enough time with people today, so we need to, like, decompress.
00:13:32Look, we got through today.
00:13:34It was very heated.
00:13:35I'm very tired.
00:13:36I don't think we got through.
00:13:37I don't want to spend more energy on them.
00:13:40Like, enough.
00:13:41Too much back and forth and screaming.
00:13:43This is Vatelo, so here.
00:13:46Let's order a couple drinks.
00:13:47I'm going to make Andre and Alex friends.
00:13:49Elizabeth, you want to come?
00:13:50What do you want to say?
00:13:51I'm good.
00:13:52All right.
00:13:56All right, so I brought you guys a drink and a friend.
00:13:59What friend?
00:14:00No friends.
00:14:02Oh, wow.
00:14:03So I guess that's our cue to leave.
00:14:05All right, so I want to ask a favor from all of y'all,
00:14:08because we're going to get into this some more.
00:14:11Let's try to talk normal, because, like,
00:14:13I had a lot of stuff I wanted to say today,
00:14:14and because of you in particular, mostly you.
00:14:17OK.
00:14:18Also, you.
00:14:19I couldn't get a word in.
00:14:20I couldn't say my opinion.
00:14:21I couldn't really speak for myself.
00:14:22And let's keep it a little more civilized.
00:14:25I think it got way too aggressive, way too quick.
00:14:27I yelled, and I hate that I yelled.
00:14:29I'm not going to apologize for yelling,
00:14:31but I hate that I yelled.
00:14:32No, don't, don't.
00:14:33No more apologizing.
00:14:34I think we should reconcile the things
00:14:37before we hear from that lady, from your friend.
00:14:40Because we said that they're like,
00:14:41OK, lady, whatever, lady.
00:14:43No, that's not nice, OK?
00:14:45It's nice.
00:14:46Lady is nice, because she's a lady, I think.
00:14:48But you know, like, I'm just saying, you know, like .
00:14:51There are some things I want to ask her.
00:14:52If she does come, you have to let her get a word in.
00:14:55I will.
00:14:56OK, I will.
00:15:00Andre, I have to tell you wholeheartedly,
00:15:03I never said you were a horrible person.
00:15:06I think that was a lot of he said, she said.
00:15:08And there's a big difference between a horrible person
00:15:10and calling somebody a dick.
00:15:11OK.
00:15:12Your characteristic is a dick.
00:15:15Yeah.
00:15:16OK.
00:15:17I have a question.
00:15:18Who mentioned body shaming?
00:15:20Because on that clip.
00:15:21Who mentioned it first, Andre?
00:15:22It comes from the text messages that I read.
00:15:26But who said it?
00:15:27But who said it?
00:15:28But who said it?
00:15:29Who revealed this?
00:15:30Who said it?
00:15:31It comes from the context of what was conversation.
00:15:33Who said it?
00:15:34You're dodging the question.
00:15:36Did you say it or did Elizabeth say it first?
00:15:38I'm more mad at Elizabeth at this point,
00:15:40because she did it and she won't own it.
00:15:44In the clip that we saw today, Elizabeth said,
00:15:48you body shame your wife.
00:15:50I'm just trying to think.
00:15:51Are we talking about this again?
00:15:52Are we just trying to think.
00:15:53Are we talking about this again?
00:15:58I dare you, Darcy, to let Cara lick one of your naples.
00:16:09When she was going to sing, then she keeps going into a party, drinking,
00:16:25and then to another party, and then to someone else's house until like 4am.
00:16:30She's just having fun.
00:16:32She did not cheat, you know.
00:16:33She just had fun.
00:16:34Um.
00:16:44Are we talking about this again?
00:16:47What is wrong with you?
00:16:48I'm trying to figure out who said something.
00:16:51Isn't everybody tired, Scoot?
00:16:54Oh, my God.
00:16:55I can't.
00:16:56I can't do this again.
00:16:57But my question, my question.
00:16:58You're asking the question too many times.
00:17:00Now you want to clarify it, but I didn't clarify it at the moment.
00:17:03Why did you leave?
00:17:04We should have clarified it.
00:17:05Babe, just don't try.
00:17:06It's annoying.
00:17:07You know, like every time when it was getting deep, you leave.
00:17:10I don't have energy for this.
00:17:11We was thinking that you're controlling all of her because you're always taking her
00:17:14away from the situation.
00:17:15This was a situation that I got dragged into that just escalated and escalated and escalated.
00:17:20So yes, we did remove ourselves before it got so much worse.
00:17:24So what are we going to do?
00:17:26You guys are kind of with each other forever.
00:17:28I don't give a flying .
00:17:31Well, I'm done told.
00:17:32I don't know why.
00:17:33Let's go get a drink because I'm done told.
00:17:35Oh, no.
00:17:36Are you taking her away from the situation?
00:17:38The irony.
00:17:39We discussed this in the studio.
00:17:41Yara, I'm sitting here and look who left.
00:17:47Yeah.
00:17:48And that's okay?
00:17:49He literally said, you got up and left.
00:17:52Yeah.
00:17:53He just left.
00:17:54And they just left.
00:17:55Like what a hypocrite.
00:17:57Yeah.
00:17:58Damn it.
00:17:59I don't know.
00:18:00It was her like last real friend.
00:18:03They push everybody away.
00:18:05Every friend.
00:18:06Every family they have.
00:18:07Everybody.
00:18:08They just push everybody away.
00:18:14Oh, baby.
00:18:15Oh, you know, another point for you.
00:18:17All right.
00:18:18Catching her up.
00:18:26Welcome to my humble giant room.
00:18:29Wow.
00:18:31Make yourself at home.
00:18:32Very nice.
00:18:33All right.
00:18:34That's a good game.
00:18:35All right.
00:18:36What do you want to play?
00:18:37Truth or dare?
00:18:38True or dare?
00:18:40You're asking me?
00:18:41Mm-hmm.
00:18:42Let's do a dare.
00:18:44I dare you to do a backflip in the floor.
00:18:47Do you know how to do a backflip?
00:18:49Backflip?
00:18:50You know, you do it in the floor.
00:18:51Those are cheerleaders.
00:18:53You mean roll backwards?
00:18:54Okay.
00:18:55Oh, a roll.
00:18:56A roll.
00:18:57Oh, a roll.
00:18:58I was thinking you wanted like a back handspring.
00:18:59I was like, what the ?
00:19:00No.
00:19:01You all right?
00:19:02Okay.
00:19:03Um.
00:19:09Oh.
00:19:10Wait.
00:19:11I don't like that it didn't happen.
00:19:12How do I get over it?
00:19:13I don't know.
00:19:14Wait.
00:19:15How does one do that?
00:19:16I don't know.
00:19:17Okay.
00:19:18Yeah.
00:19:19That works.
00:19:20All right, Kara.
00:19:21Your turn.
00:19:22All right.
00:19:23What are you calling out?
00:19:24Brandon.
00:19:25Truth or dare?
00:19:26Yes, you.
00:19:27Truth.
00:19:28Boring.
00:19:29Boring.
00:19:30I dare.
00:19:31Oh, yeah.
00:19:32All right.
00:19:33I dare you to lick that door handle.
00:19:35I have to lick a door handle?
00:19:36Oh.
00:19:37Seriously?
00:19:38Very nasty.
00:19:39Oh.
00:19:40Lick it.
00:19:41Lick it like a lollipop.
00:19:42You know what I'm saying?
00:19:43Oh.
00:19:44Have you opened this door?
00:19:46I do.
00:19:47No.
00:19:48Lick it.
00:19:49Lick it.
00:19:50Lick it.
00:19:51Lick it.
00:19:52Lick it.
00:19:53Lick it.
00:19:54Lick it.
00:19:55Lick it.
00:19:56Lick it.
00:19:57I did it.
00:19:58How dare you?
00:20:00Ew.
00:20:01You're nasty.
00:20:04All right, Matt.
00:20:05No.
00:20:06Son of a bitch.
00:20:07Son of a bitch.
00:20:08You got it.
00:20:09You got it.
00:20:10I dare.
00:20:11Dare?
00:20:12I dare you.
00:20:13Suck a toe.
00:20:14A toe?
00:20:15Suck a toe.
00:20:16Because I have a foot fetish.
00:20:18And he.
00:20:19We've seen it.
00:20:20Yeah.
00:20:21Exactly.
00:20:22Can he at least wash the foot?
00:20:23He finds that disgusting.
00:20:24No.
00:20:25I'm not watching.
00:20:26Do you find a foot?
00:20:27What the hell are you talking about?
00:20:28No, girl.
00:20:29You'd be walking on the floor and stuff.
00:20:30Suck a toe.
00:20:31Suck a toe.
00:20:32Suck a toe.
00:20:33And the big one.
00:20:34No.
00:20:35Yeah.
00:20:36No.
00:20:37He didn't say the big one.
00:20:38Okay, whatever.
00:20:39Did you walk on the barefooter?
00:20:40I didn't.
00:20:41You're such a liar.
00:20:42Papi, suck it.
00:20:43Bro.
00:20:44You got it.
00:20:45Oh, wow.
00:20:46Pointer toe?
00:20:47Suck it.
00:20:48Oh, my.
00:20:49I gotta wash my mouth.
00:20:50If he only knew where this toe had to be.
00:21:05That was a sweaty-ass toe.
00:21:14It was salty, you son of a bitch.
00:21:17I went to the bathroom barefoot and all that .
00:21:22Good.
00:21:23To the bathroom.
00:21:24Now I have to kiss my toe with this.
00:21:25Yeah.
00:21:26I hope you're happy.
00:21:27Listen.
00:21:28I just, like, imagine you sucking.
00:21:32Respectfully saying Gino's feet.
00:21:35It was the only thing he would let me suck.
00:21:38Really?
00:21:39I swear to God.
00:21:40He...
00:21:41Typical Gino trying to save money on a pedicure.
00:21:47Yo.
00:21:48Gino.
00:21:50You got a game?
00:21:51I have a funny idea.
00:21:52You got that paper with you?
00:21:53Paper?
00:21:54Your phone records.
00:21:55Let's call that number.
00:21:56See if Matt answers the phone.
00:21:57She's lying to us.
00:21:58I'll call it.
00:22:00Let me see her number.
00:22:05Hold on a second.
00:22:07Here, look.
00:22:09Me too, brother.
00:22:10That's his number.
00:22:18It's ringing.
00:22:20Is it?
00:22:21Yeah.
00:22:22He might not have changed the number.
00:22:25He might not have changed the number.
00:22:26I'm going to enter him.
00:22:27I'm like, yeah, Joseph.
00:22:28What is it?
00:22:29The same thing.
00:22:30You're calling.
00:22:31Oh, what are you guys doing in here?
00:22:34Guys, go, go, go.
00:22:35You're having a little sleepover?
00:22:37We're playing truth or dare.
00:22:38Truth or dare?
00:22:39Yes.
00:22:40Okay.
00:22:41All right.
00:22:42A little truth or dare never hurt anybody.
00:22:43But we've done some scandalous things before your arrival.
00:22:46Yeah.
00:22:47Okay, baby.
00:22:48This is your turn.
00:22:49Oh, me?
00:22:50I'll do truth.
00:22:51Do you still have feelings for Guillermo?
00:22:53Oh, my God.
00:22:54Truth.
00:22:55The whole truth.
00:22:58I will always love Guillermo.
00:23:05I will always love Guillermo.
00:23:06We share a child.
00:23:08Wow.
00:23:09Hmm.
00:23:10She created a song in the main course of the song.
00:23:16It's like, try.
00:23:17And we need to just try.
00:23:18Yeah.
00:23:19Yeah, sure.
00:23:20Yeah, it's about trying.
00:23:21Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:23:22Yeah.
00:23:23I don't feel like we really tried.
00:23:25I tried.
00:23:27That's what I'm saying.
00:23:28It's what you don't get here.
00:23:29No, no, no, no.
00:23:30You just shut down.
00:23:31You didn't communicate.
00:23:32Well, I was trying because our marriage was getting up.
00:23:37Mm-hmm.
00:23:38I think that you should have chosen there.
00:23:43Damn.
00:23:44I'm sorry.
00:23:47Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:23:50Somebody says, who is this?
00:23:52Let's take this in the back.
00:23:53Oh, he replied.
00:23:55I asked him if it's Matthew.
00:23:58Yeah.
00:23:59This is Matthew, like this?
00:24:01Yes.
00:24:02He's not going to say yes.
00:24:03No, he's going to be like, what the you want?
00:24:04Yeah.
00:24:05Yeah.
00:24:06You started for me.
00:24:09OK.
00:24:10Jasmine.
00:24:11Uh-huh.
00:24:12Truth or dare?
00:24:14OK.
00:24:15Truth.
00:24:16Do you love Matt the same as you love Gina?
00:24:26Hmm.
00:24:28I think that, I don't know, I think that with Gino, I didn't love him in a healthy way,
00:24:38but I was so obsessed with him.
00:24:40Like I love him, you know, in a very passionate way.
00:24:43No, she doesn't love me as much as him.
00:24:45Right?
00:24:46I was like, I think it was a yes or no.
00:24:47I don't want to be that person again, but I do love him.
00:24:52I like his companion.
00:24:54Sex is the freaking best.
00:24:57Well, you definitely have chemistry.
00:25:00Hello.
00:25:01Oh, hi.
00:25:02Welcome.
00:25:03My baby.
00:25:04Yeah, my new people.
00:25:05Yeah.
00:25:06It's my turn.
00:25:08The queen.
00:25:09The newcomer to the circle.
00:25:10Dare.
00:25:11Oh, she has this.
00:25:12Double D, baby.
00:25:13Double D.
00:25:14My girl.
00:25:15I dare you, Darcy, to let Cara lick one of your nipples.
00:25:29Bitch.
00:25:30Whoa.
00:25:31I need to see that.
00:25:34I need to see that.
00:25:38Here, I'll lick your boob, but not your nipple.
00:25:40Okay.
00:25:41And let me see.
00:25:42Come closer.
00:25:43Yeah.
00:25:44I'm such a pervert.
00:25:45No, she left to lick twice for me.
00:25:47She did it.
00:25:48No, I didn't see it.
00:25:53Yeah, double D's, baby.
00:25:55Y'all are ratchet as hell with that.
00:25:57Zero .
00:25:58True or dare?
00:26:00I can't dare.
00:26:02Okay.
00:26:03Okay.
00:26:04I want you are dancing for your wife.
00:26:07She's still your wife.
00:26:08Take off your shirt and make sexy feeding her this sandwich
00:26:13without your hand.
00:26:16Show the Latino movement.
00:26:19Oh.
00:26:21Oh.
00:26:22Oh.
00:26:23Oh.
00:26:24Oh.
00:26:27Ah.
00:26:28Ah.
00:26:30Put the sandwich inside your...
00:26:33Ah.
00:26:34Ah.
00:26:35Ah.
00:26:36You be the dog .
00:26:39Ah.
00:26:40Ah.
00:26:41I'll make her smell it.
00:26:42There you go.
00:26:43Ah!
00:26:44Ah!
00:26:45Da-da-da-da-da-da!
00:26:47Ah!
00:26:48Yeah!
00:26:49It's his hands, it's his hands.
00:26:50Smiles, smiles!
00:26:53Sock it, I mean, .
00:27:00Wow, that was cute.
00:27:03Look, it's .
00:27:04Let's see.
00:27:05Bring it on, since I don't know who you are.
00:27:08If it wasn't him, he'd say wrong number.
00:27:10Where's Matt?
00:27:11Upstairs.
00:27:12Somebody see if he's on his phone.
00:27:13Where is he?
00:27:14Let's go sneak and see.
00:27:15I'll peek around the corner.
00:27:16Go, go.
00:27:17Somebody put my camera on him.
00:27:18Where?
00:27:19Upstairs, we'll see if he's texting.
00:27:22If he's on his phone right now, that's him.
00:27:35Kara, you're still living in the house
00:27:36that you and Guillermo bought together.
00:27:38Yes.
00:27:39Are you trying to get his name off the date?
00:27:42I mean, I think it's fair.
00:27:43He didn't contribute money.
00:27:45That's the reality of what happened.
00:27:46Uh-uh, that is not.
00:27:48That's a dumb way to think about it.
00:27:50We'll see if he's texting.
00:27:51If he's on his phone right now, that's Matt.
00:27:52Too loud.
00:27:53We can't sleep.
00:27:54You guys missed some crazy .
00:27:55Missed it.
00:27:56Licked doorknob, licked toes.
00:27:57Big .
00:27:58Yeah, that's right.
00:27:59More action here than I get with you.
00:28:00Hi, me.
00:28:01Well, I hope.
00:28:02All right, let me do it one more time.
00:28:03Is somebody texting you?
00:28:04No, I'm not playing.
00:28:05Why?
00:28:06Is somebody texting you earlier?
00:28:07I have no idea why.
00:28:08Were you texting somebody earlier?
00:28:09No, I don't know why.
00:28:10No, I don't know why.
00:28:11No.
00:28:12Why?
00:28:13Why?
00:28:14Why?
00:28:15Why?
00:28:16Why?
00:28:17Why?
00:28:18I don't know why.
00:28:19Why would you?
00:28:20I'm not going to die with you.
00:28:21Bye me!
00:28:22Bye me!
00:28:23Bye I hope.
00:28:24All right, let me do it one more time.
00:28:26All right, let me do it one more time.
00:28:27Is somebody texting you?
00:28:28No, I'm not playing.
00:28:29Why?
00:28:30Why?
00:28:31Is somebody texting you earlier?
00:28:32earlier?
00:28:35I have no idea why.
00:28:36Were you texting somebody earlier?
00:28:39No.
00:28:41I'm going to go back and get a drink.
00:28:43Yeah, this is kind of boring here.
00:28:45Yeah.
00:28:47Our spy mission was a total bust.
00:28:50I mean, either Matt changed his phone number, or Gino's lying.
00:28:54I don't know.
00:28:56All right.
00:28:56Please leave your message.
00:28:58No.
00:28:59Did they figure it out upstairs or no?
00:29:01I don't know.
00:29:01Children, come back.
00:29:03What did you discover?
00:29:05Nothing.
00:29:06Nothing.
00:29:07He wasn't on his phone.
00:29:09Jasmine's looking at me like I'm crazy.
00:29:10I'm like, Matt, are you texting anybody right now?
00:29:13And he was like, no.
00:29:15I called like three times.
00:29:16Nothing happens.
00:29:18Nothing happens.
00:29:18Nothing happens.
00:29:20Matt's phone number was definitely a match at the time
00:29:25that I pulled the phone records because I verified it myself.
00:29:28So the fact that Matt changed his number,
00:29:31I mean, that just shows he's guilty.
00:29:35So you can't even question it.
00:29:37I just hear somebody upstairs leak Darcy's boobs.
00:29:41Oh, yeah?
00:29:42What did you say?
00:29:43Somebody touched her boobs?
00:29:44Lick it.
00:29:45Who?
00:29:46Guillermo?
00:29:46Cara?
00:29:47Oh, OK.
00:29:48Oh.
00:29:49They're playing a game.
00:29:51In the front of other people there?
00:29:53They're having fun.
00:29:54Oh, they're having fun.
00:29:55That's an excuse.
00:29:56They're having fun.
00:29:57Let's go strip club.
00:29:58I'm just going to have fun.
00:30:00Yeah.
00:30:01OK.
00:30:02Well, I have a dare for all of you.
00:30:04Yay!
00:30:05I dare you all to get the out of my room.
00:30:07Oh, my gosh.
00:30:08My pleasure.
00:30:09Yay!
00:30:09Yay!
00:30:10Yay!
00:30:11That was fun.
00:30:12All of us?
00:30:13I love you.
00:30:14Don't get me wrong.
00:30:15You sure all of us?
00:30:16You maybe somebody want to stay?
00:30:17Thank you for having us.
00:30:18That was a fun game.
00:30:19I think all of you is just fine.
00:30:21All right.
00:30:22When's the last time you guys had sex?
00:30:24How many months?
00:30:25Y'all told me three in Miami when we hung out.
00:30:27Jovi, when was that?
00:30:28That was like three months ago.
00:30:30So that would be six months.
00:30:31We're just too busy.
00:30:32She said Jenner.
00:30:33Too busy to have sex?
00:30:34Yeah.
00:30:35Oh, come on.
00:30:36You can do a quickie.
00:30:38You just wanted a nice vacation.
00:30:39I feel like that's the first thing you want to do when you get there.
00:30:41I don't know.
00:30:45Hey, guys.
00:30:46How's the party?
00:30:47What's up with a lick in the upstairs?
00:30:49That was the fun room.
00:30:51Played a little truth and dare.
00:30:52What did you do there?
00:30:53No.
00:30:54Got my tit licked.
00:30:55How she licked your nipples?
00:30:57Like this.
00:30:59In the front of everybody.
00:31:01That's right, baby.
00:31:02In the front of everybody.
00:31:03That's right, baby.
00:31:04So everybody see your boobs upstairs?
00:31:05Yeah.
00:31:06It was fun.
00:31:07Innocent fun.
00:31:08What's up with a sex situation?
00:31:09Seriously.
00:31:10I don't know.
00:31:11Ask him.
00:31:12Ask me.
00:31:13You're tired all the time.
00:31:14You're not in the mood for us.
00:31:15Dad, stop blaming me for everything.
00:31:16First and foremost.
00:31:17So who should I blame?
00:31:19We both have to want it.
00:31:20But you know what I'm saying?
00:31:21Like it's like, are you getting it off somewhere else?
00:31:23That's what you were asking.
00:31:24Like in the shower, at the steam room with a hottie.
00:31:26Definitely somewhere.
00:31:27Because you're not going to, like, if you last for two weeks,
00:31:30you're going to and you're asleep.
00:31:34I have widgets, yeah.
00:31:36You do?
00:31:37Why not a woman?
00:31:38You have a woman.
00:31:39Ask her.
00:31:40Yeah.
00:31:41I mean, obviously, I'm, you know, hormonal at this moment.
00:31:45But I also want some romance.
00:31:46I want to, like...
00:31:47It only takes, what, five, ten minutes?
00:31:49No, he's quick.
00:31:50He's quick.
00:31:51It's like a wham-bam, thank you, ma'am.
00:31:52It ain't hours long on that shirt.
00:31:54One pump show?
00:31:55If I really wanted it, it's like, all right.
00:31:57I don't mind that.
00:31:58You know, you're actually like, you know, slow and a little gentle.
00:32:01You're never like freaky or nothing like that.
00:32:03I've had freaky.
00:32:04Yes, dude.
00:32:05You're saying Georgie's boring.
00:32:07I don't know.
00:32:08It's like, we both probably are now.
00:32:10We just got so used to each other.
00:32:12You know, we need to spice it up.
00:32:14So maybe we need to do something.
00:32:15Y'all take a shot of tequila, make your way upstairs,
00:32:18and renew your six-month membership.
00:32:20Renew your membership.
00:32:22Do you want to go in the room having sex?
00:32:25Let's do it.
00:32:26Take a shot and go.
00:32:28Let's take it to the bedroom, baby.
00:32:30Do you have a problem, dude?
00:32:32Like, what's the problem?
00:32:33Do you have a problem?
00:32:34Why are you not your wife?
00:32:36I'll give you some liquid courage.
00:32:38She better be smiling ear to ear.
00:32:41Yeah!
00:32:42I'm Bulgarian.
00:32:44All of you gonna hear her scream tonight.
00:32:52Let's go.
00:32:58Come to bed.
00:33:03Yeah, baby.
00:33:05Don't fall asleep.
00:33:07Wake up!
00:33:10Georgie, you feel like a dead body.
00:33:13I can't breathe.
00:33:16Help, help, help.
00:33:20Oh, my God.
00:33:21That was so much fun.
00:33:22That was two to third day.
00:33:23Kara, I'll never forget you.
00:33:25I tasted your perfume for, like, an hour after that.
00:33:29Oh, I'm so ready.
00:33:30Yeah.
00:33:31Let's do this.
00:33:32So excited.
00:33:33You know, you got it.
00:33:34Thank you, sir.
00:33:35Ready?
00:33:36Ready?
00:33:37Ready?
00:33:38Ready?
00:33:39Ready?
00:33:40Ready?
00:33:41Yeah.
00:33:42I slept there last time, right?
00:33:43I didn't sleep.
00:33:44I don't know.
00:33:45I didn't sleep.
00:33:46I don't know.
00:33:47I don't know.
00:33:48I didn't sleep.
00:33:49I didn't sleep.
00:33:50I don't know.
00:33:51I'm so excited.
00:33:52You know, you got it.
00:33:53Oh, thank you, sir.
00:33:54Ready?
00:33:55Ready?
00:33:56Ready?
00:33:57Ready?
00:33:58Ready?
00:33:59Ready?
00:34:00I didn't sleep.
00:34:01I don't know.
00:34:02I didn't sleep.
00:34:03I don't know.
00:34:04Oh, my God.
00:34:05You got a hungry bird.
00:34:06Oh, my God.
00:34:07You got a hungry bird.
00:34:08Oh, my God.
00:34:09We're going first today?
00:34:10Good for me.
00:34:11It's okay.
00:34:12We can just get it out of bed.
00:34:13Yeah.
00:34:14All my cries out.
00:34:18I feel very gross today.
00:34:20I'm not in a good mood.
00:34:26Good morning, guys.
00:34:29What's up?
00:34:30Good morning.
00:34:31Good to see you.
00:34:32How was your night?
00:34:34Never better.
00:34:35I didn't see you guys last night.
00:34:36So what was happening upstairs?
00:34:37Anything crazy?
00:34:38Man, weird stuff happened.
00:34:41Okay.
00:34:42Now I want to know.
00:34:43Brandon licked a door.
00:34:45How do you say it?
00:34:46A doorknob?
00:34:47Uh-huh.
00:34:48Okay.
00:34:49I'm glad I was downstairs.
00:34:50Hey.
00:34:51What's up?
00:34:52What's up?
00:34:53I heard you licking doorknobs.
00:34:54What happened last night?
00:34:55Sucked the gold off that thing, man.
00:34:57Was it a bet?
00:34:58Like, what was happening?
00:34:59We were just sitting around playing truth or dare.
00:35:00Y'all were quiet.
00:35:01I figured everybody went to sleep.
00:35:02Really?
00:35:03Yeah.
00:35:04Oh, no.
00:35:05I thought we were loud as .
00:35:06I mean, maybe the house does have, how do you say?
00:35:09Good walls?
00:35:10Yeah.
00:35:11Soundproofing, yeah.
00:35:12I mean, I haven't heard anybody having sex, so.
00:35:14How about you?
00:35:15Yeah.
00:35:16How about me?
00:35:17Wait, what?
00:35:18You have sex?
00:35:19Huh.
00:35:20Wasn't Carl hot and bothered after your little private dance?
00:35:23No dance?
00:35:24No dance.
00:35:25No dance.
00:35:34My love!
00:35:35I didn't, I saw you, but you were getting makeup and I did, I wanted to you.
00:35:40You're good?
00:35:41Have your back.
00:35:42Relax.
00:35:43You are who matters.
00:35:47You're not crying.
00:35:48No, just shh.
00:35:49Breathing exercises.
00:35:51I need to.
00:35:52Squish it.
00:35:53Squish it.
00:35:54Squish it.
00:35:55I came here thinking, like, everybody was going to probably be a dick to me.
00:35:59But overall, everybody has been, like, pretty cool to me and pretty nice, so.
00:36:04I wanted to not like you.
00:36:05Oh, OK.
00:36:06Just given everything.
00:36:07Nobody wants to like you.
00:36:08And then you meet him and you're like, oh, that plan.
00:36:10I know.
00:36:11He's so likable.
00:36:12It's crazy.
00:36:13Yeah.
00:36:14Unfortunately.
00:36:15Unfortunately.
00:36:16He's socializing more today.
00:36:18He feels more confident.
00:36:19Look at our kids.
00:36:20Them on the couch talking with people.
00:36:22I just have to keep, like, an eye on Matt.
00:36:25He's too charming sometimes.
00:36:27I don't like that.
00:36:29Charming?
00:36:30Yeah.
00:36:31Because with Gino, I didn't care because he is so bitchy to everyone.
00:36:34Like, you know?
00:36:35No.
00:36:36Isn't it nice?
00:36:37No.
00:36:38I guess I, too, like, I've seen Jasmine blow up and, like, cry so much.
00:36:44So much.
00:36:45That I was like, oh, here we go.
00:36:47Is it just going to be, like, one big drama show all the time?
00:36:50See?
00:36:51Just like that.
00:36:52I'm literally trying to say, I thought you were going to be so much drama, but you actually turned out to be so nice.
00:36:57But you're just proving the first part.
00:37:00I don't want to interrupt the peace and quiet.
00:37:02Are you sure?
00:37:03So I'm going to be in this corner because apparently I'm too loud.
00:37:06Hi, Darcy.
00:37:07Good morning.
00:37:08Hi, Mama.
00:37:09Oh, it's so nice to see Georgie by Darcy's side.
00:37:12Yeah.
00:37:13Amen.
00:37:14Because sometimes I forget that you're even a couple because it's always Darcy by herself.
00:37:19I know.
00:37:20You can enjoy it with any female except from his wife.
00:37:24True.
00:37:25Shots fired.
00:37:26Shots fired.
00:37:27Jesus.
00:37:29All right, guys.
00:37:30We're ready for you back on set.
00:37:31All right.
00:37:32Let's do this.
00:37:33All right.
00:37:34Kara, you guys first?
00:37:36Yeah.
00:37:37Good boy.
00:37:38It's our time, G.
00:37:44Good morning.
00:37:45Good morning.
00:37:46Good morning.
00:37:50And I hope I don't pop out of my dress.
00:37:55You might have to have my back.
00:37:57You're feeling good about that.
00:37:58Let me know if you see anything.
00:38:01Right, please.
00:38:04Five, four, three, two.
00:38:09Welcome back to 90 Day Fiance.
00:38:11Happily Ever After, The Couples Tell All.
00:38:13All right, everybody.
00:38:14Are you guys ready?
00:38:15Yep.
00:38:16We are ready.
00:38:17I want to start off with Kara and Guillermo.
00:38:21Now, I understand there was a little bit of flirting going on last night between the two of you.
00:38:28Is that right?
00:38:29I think, in my opinion, I think we, there's a lot of stuff happening that's really heavy.
00:38:34Yeah.
00:38:35And I think our way to deal with it has seemed to be to just joke and keep it very, like, light.
00:38:41Yeah.
00:38:42Because once we start to really get into it.
00:38:45Mm-hmm.
00:38:47So, what is the status of your relationship?
00:38:53Separated.
00:38:54Separated.
00:38:55Separated.
00:38:56Living separate.
00:38:57Co-parenting.
00:38:58Living separate lives.
00:38:59Co-parenting.
00:39:00Still married.
00:39:01Kara, you're still living in the house that you and Guillermo bought together.
00:39:03Yes.
00:39:04Okay.
00:39:05All right.
00:39:06Uh, and Guillermo, oh, you just threw me a look right there.
00:39:09How do you feel about that?
00:39:11Never better.
00:39:13Never better?
00:39:14Yeah.
00:39:15Okay.
00:39:16So, you both bought that house together.
00:39:19Mm-hmm.
00:39:20With both your funds.
00:39:21Mm-hmm.
00:39:22Right.
00:39:24Mm-hmm.
00:39:25The looks between you two.
00:39:27Kara, is that right?
00:39:28You bought that house together with both your funds?
00:39:30Uh, sure, in the sense that we're married and so our funds are won.
00:39:34Yeah.
00:39:36Kara, is Guillermo's name on the house?
00:39:40Yeah, on, not on the loan, but on the deed.
00:39:43When we bought the house, obviously I was okay with him being on the deed.
00:39:47I wanted to create a future with him.
00:39:49Yes.
00:39:50But now that we're separate, now I think about it and like,
00:39:54oh, I really did everything to really get us into that house,
00:39:57and he just gets to have 50% ownership.
00:40:00Are you trying to get his name off the deed?
00:40:05I mean, I think it's fair.
00:40:06He doesn't live there.
00:40:08He didn't contribute money.
00:40:09And that's the reality of what happened.
00:40:11Mm-mm, that is not.
00:40:13I'm just waiting for my moment.
00:40:14Well, go ahead, have your moment.
00:40:15I'm sorry.
00:40:18I remember actually clear conversations,
00:40:21and actually you were the one putting every single thing that I will spend in the house,
00:40:26or in the family.
00:40:27And actually it was more than what you were putting into the house.
00:40:31And then the payment that I was doing, it was like food,
00:40:34and this, and the other, and the kid, and this, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
00:40:37Specifically about the house, it was more so me.
00:40:40As our budget as a whole, it was sometimes more him, depending on what the bills were that month.
00:40:46But you can't separate the two.
00:40:48You were living together and spending money on everything.
00:40:50You can't separate the house from everything else.
00:40:52You can't give him back his food.
00:40:54Yeah, but the food he paid for is not accruing equity over the next 25 years either.
00:41:00But wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:41:02But that's a dumb way to think about it.
00:41:05Even if you're saying that you're paying this and I'm paying that, at the end of the day, it's one.
00:41:11I wanted it to be one thing, I wanted it to be together, I wanted it to be one thing.
00:41:16You wanted it and it was.
00:41:18How much is it worth?
00:41:21Do you want to fight that battle and you want to claim 50%?
00:41:25How much did you put in?
00:41:26It's, listen, I come from nothing.
00:41:30And I don't care if I go back there.
00:41:33I just want to have a good life.
00:41:36That's it.
00:41:37And if I'm fighting with you, it's not going to give me that, so then just keep it.
00:41:42You have decided that you are going to give up your 50%?
00:41:48Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:49I did.
00:41:50So you're letting it go?
00:41:51Yeah.
00:41:52Okay.
00:41:53Yeah.
00:41:54Which is very nice of you, but to be honest, if the shoe was to be turned the other way,
00:41:58and you were paying the mortgage and she was paying more on the rest of the bills,
00:42:02she would be claiming, I'm paying more now.
00:42:04There are so many things that there's no equality in this.
00:42:09You don't think there's equality in your relationship with Kara?
00:42:16No.
00:42:21When she drinks, it's a completely different person.
00:42:25I don't feel comfortable with this.
00:42:28She's basically saying she's not wife material.
00:42:30Stop, Andrew.
00:42:32That's what it is.
00:42:34Yes.
00:42:36Um...
00:42:43You don't think there's equality in your relationship with Kara?
00:42:48No.
00:42:51If I will do the same things that she do, I will definitely be looking really bad.
00:42:59Like, for example?
00:43:00I keep my kid.
00:43:02I don't care about you.
00:43:03It's not your country, but still, I don't care about you.
00:43:06I've never said that to you.
00:43:08No, but it's, it's, it's, it's the truth.
00:43:10It's, it's there.
00:43:11Like, you can see it.
00:43:15Guillermo, do you think that you would be treated differently by Kara if you did not have a son together?
00:43:19Yes.
00:43:28In what way?
00:43:30Um...
00:43:32Would you like to answer that?
00:43:33No, you can answer.
00:43:34Um...
00:43:36There is a...
00:43:40Small line of respect that I feel from her just because I'm the father of her kid.
00:43:54And if Nico wouldn't be there, that respect, it will be none.
00:44:01Wow.
00:44:02Sounds bad.
00:44:03Think you would already be divorced?
00:44:05I will, yeah, I will, I will, I will, I will think so.
00:44:09What respect means for you?
00:44:10What does respect?
00:44:11You said she has more respect for you.
00:44:12What does it mean for you?
00:44:14I will start with the way she will speak to me.
00:44:18She speaks down to you.
00:44:19Yeah.
00:44:20Down means rude and, and names and all of that kind of stuff.
00:44:26Like, that's how she is.
00:44:28That's how Kara is.
00:44:30In fact, Rona said Guillermo.
00:44:32The way Kara speaks to you, that's really bad.
00:44:37That's what Kara's mother told you.
00:44:39Yeah.
00:44:41What am I saying to you that you find so disrespectful?
00:44:43Do you call him names?
00:44:46No?
00:44:47No.
00:44:49What did I call you?
00:44:51I think my general tone sometimes can be sharp, particularly if I'm upset or angry or whatever, and I think he finds that tone disrespectful.
00:45:01No, no, no.
00:45:02We're talking about words, like, mother , like, all of those words that they can come out, that in my opinion you shouldn't be saying those things to your husband.
00:45:12The way you spoke to me, it's not the right way to speak to me.
00:45:19Okay, I want to pivot to another point of contention in your relationship.
00:45:24Kara, what is the status of your music career?
00:45:26It's just growing and evolving.
00:45:30Bringing in money?
00:45:32You know, music is a really hard industry, and I don't know that you see profit for a while.
00:45:37Okay.
00:45:39I want to look back at how Kara's dream of a music career resulted in a nightmare for her marriage.
00:45:45Let's watch.
00:45:47People started arriving like an hour ago, and Guillermo still isn't here.
00:45:52There was a time when Guillermo was different.
00:45:57He was really supportive of my performances and of my career.
00:46:02I never had the feeling that one day maybe he wouldn't be there as my biggest supporter, my biggest fan.
00:46:08So, how come you didn't go to Kara's performance?
00:46:14I'm not going to be part of the possible bull that could be going on in Kara's life.
00:46:20Like, going out, drinking, partying, even the way she probably could dress, it's gonna probably make me feel so weird.
00:46:43Normally, she would wear something like no clothes or almost not clothes.
00:46:50And I've said like, yo, that makes me a little bit, a little bit weird.
00:46:55And every time I said that, she's like, who the do you think you are to tell me what to do, what to wear and stuff?
00:47:02And I'm, it's not that I'm telling you what to do, what to wear, not at all.
00:47:05It's just that it makes me feel a little bit weird.
00:47:10You know what?
00:47:12Enjoy your life.
00:47:14Go do your thing.
00:47:15But I'm not going to be part of it.
00:47:18Kara, when you were watching that,
00:47:23what were you feeling?
00:47:24Um, I guess it's just the realization that somehow I've ended up married to someone that just like, doesn't support me.
00:47:38I just never thought it was going to be that way.
00:47:41You know?
00:47:43If anybody should be there, it should be him, even if it was in the middle of a desert.
00:47:47You know?
00:47:48Like, if anyone should be there, it should be my husband.
00:47:50Yeah, I think you should have been there for her and supported her.
00:47:57When she was going out to sing, then she keeps going into a potty, drinking, and then to another potty, and then to someone else's house until like 4am.
00:48:10And I'm like, yo, were you not going to sing and then come back home to your family?
00:48:15No, no, no.
00:48:16It's to continue from this place to another place, to continue drinking.
00:48:20And we know, we know.
00:48:22She's just having fun.
00:48:24But she did not cheat, you know? She just had fun.
00:48:28Um, no, that's okay.
00:48:30I actually went to New York two weeks ago, to Manhattan without Jovi for my birthday.
00:48:36And Jovi didn't have no problem with that.
00:48:37I go out, we go to the bar with my friends.
00:48:40Think from his perspective, if he goes out until 4 o'clock in the morning, three parties, would you believe him?
00:48:47He's singing only?
00:48:49If his goal was to be a singer, and he had a show, I would never miss his show.
00:48:55So he has a jealousy problem, okay.
00:48:57Yeah, I think she's using the music as an excuse for her to continue to go out because she knows that Guillermo doesn't like it.
00:49:02But maybe she's not happy in her marriage.
00:49:03So she's already there, it's an excuse to keep going.
00:49:06If I would have done the same thing, I'll be in trouble.
00:49:09No, if you would have done the same thing, I would have been by your side with you the whole time.
00:49:13I think she would be with you.
00:49:14Yeah, if you would support her and be there for her, she would go home with you.
00:49:18Look, I have a problem with Cara when she drinks.
00:49:27When she drinks, it's a completely different person.
00:49:31And she knows it.
00:49:42Tell us about this DJ friend of yours.
00:49:46He was writing her.
00:49:48And the way he was writing, it was to invite her out.
00:49:53And then she would be acting in very different ways.
00:49:55I'll be very honest.
00:49:56If I went to him tomorrow and was like, hey, let's hook up.
00:49:59I have no doubts he would.
00:50:00Oh, my God.
00:50:01Oh, my God.
00:50:12When she drinks, it's a completely different person.
00:50:15So then I was like, hey, listen, I don't feel comfortable with this.
00:50:19So then I would get scared of going to those places because then she would be drinking and then she would be acting in very different ways.
00:50:27She would be, like, very cute and cozy with some other guys.
00:50:31She would be, like, dancing very cute with other guys.
00:50:34They think they have a chance.
00:50:35Exactly.
00:50:36She's not being like, oh, okay, sorry.
00:50:38Like, I'm not going to speak to these people.
00:50:40I'm married.
00:50:41Like, I feel like that never comes up.
00:50:42But she's a singer.
00:50:43Aren't those her fans?
00:50:45I mean, imagine.
00:50:47But I think you still have to be respectful to your marriage.
00:50:49I get a terrible point.
00:50:51So it's disrespectful.
00:50:52I've been there, right?
00:50:53She's going somewhere.
00:50:54Like, what?
00:50:55She's just going to hang out there and she's going to talk around everybody around.
00:50:59And he's just staying there watching, having a drink.
00:51:01It don't feel okay.
00:51:02He could also enjoy himself.
00:51:04Kara, do you think you become a different person when you drink?
00:51:10I think I become more fun when I drink.
00:51:13For you, not for your mom.
00:51:17He doesn't look like he has fun when you drink.
00:51:21He's basically saying she's not wife material.
00:51:23That's what it is.
00:51:24What?
00:51:25Yes.
00:51:26That's what it is.
00:51:27She can do all of it.
00:51:28Wife is not the only wife who sit at home and cook and clean.
00:51:31Stop, Andrew.
00:51:32He doesn't want to see his woman going out and speaking and taking shots.
00:51:35To some other woman.
00:51:36Why'd he choose her than to be his wife?
00:51:38From day one when I met Guillermo, I've never not been who I am.
00:51:42Like, I never changed.
00:51:44He changed.
00:51:45He was fine with who I was.
00:51:47What if she stopped drinking and just did networking after the show for one hour and then comes home?
00:51:53Would it change the situation?
00:51:54What a beautiful life.
00:51:55In fact.
00:51:56In fact.
00:51:57In fact, my man.
00:51:58In fact, my man.
00:51:59In fact, my man.
00:52:00No, no, no, no, no.
00:52:01We agreed that she had a problem drinking.
00:52:06I was going to ask that.
00:52:07Does she have a drinking problem?
00:52:09In my opinion, she does.
00:52:11In his opinion, I...
00:52:13And then she said to my face, hey, you know what?
00:52:17I'm going to stop drinking.
00:52:18Did you say that, Kim?
00:52:20I did.
00:52:21In an effort to save our marriage, which time over time, he says, I never tried.
00:52:28I didn't try hard enough.
00:52:29I didn't take accountability.
00:52:30I looked at him and said, okay, maybe you're right.
00:52:32I can stop drinking.
00:52:33I will try to stop drinking because I want our marriage to work.
00:52:37And how did that go?
00:52:38Two weeks.
00:52:39I mean, I definitely started drinking.
00:52:41But like...
00:52:42Two weeks.
00:52:43Two weeks, no drink.
00:52:45Yeah, but he was still being ridiculous also.
00:52:48So you said, forget it.
00:52:49I'm going to start drinking again.
00:52:50Ridiculous?
00:52:51What?
00:52:52I'm trying to build trust.
00:52:53I'm trying to go back and feel comfortable again.
00:52:54No, I was trying to communicate with you.
00:52:55You were shutting me down.
00:52:56I couldn't.
00:52:57You were giving non-answers.
00:52:58I was, you were making uncomfortable.
00:53:00I'm uncomfortable.
00:53:01And I was like, okay, so now I stopped drinking to try to save our marriage and he's not doing
00:53:04any work.
00:53:05I'm giving up stuff.
00:53:06I'm making sacrifices.
00:53:07I'm trying to fix it.
00:53:08Yeah, I'm wondering, did you think you had a drinking problem, Cara?
00:53:11I mean, there's definitely been times where I've gone too hard.
00:53:15Okay.
00:53:16So were you doing it, giving up drinking just for Guillermo?
00:53:21Or did you feel like it was something that you should do for yourself?
00:53:23Maybe a little column A and a little column B.
00:53:25I mean, I think alcohol is not good for you long term.
00:53:27It obviously doesn't make you feel good.
00:53:28But then you only gave it two weeks, right?
00:53:30Yeah.
00:53:31Okay.
00:53:32Do you think you should have gone a little bit longer?
00:53:37Would that have made a difference, do you think?
00:53:38No, I don't.
00:53:39That's why I just started drinking again.
00:53:40Because I was like, clearly me doing, I just didn't feel like it was going to make any difference
00:53:44because he was still being like standoffish and mean.
00:53:46No, look, look, look.
00:53:48She doesn't like when people tell her what to do.
00:53:51And this is not just coming from me because I just want to say it.
00:53:54When I start...
00:53:55No, I get on that.
00:53:56Yeah, she can agree.
00:53:57Her mother told me when I got here, Cara is the type that she would do whatever she wants.
00:54:04Be careful.
00:54:05Be careful.
00:54:06Her mom said this to you?
00:54:07Yes.
00:54:08Rana said that to me.
00:54:09Well, I want to pivot to a related topic.
00:54:14At one point in their marriage, something happened that fractured the relationship.
00:54:18Guillermo became suspicious of Cara and a relationship she had with a local DJ.
00:54:24Take a look.
00:54:25Cara will go to the Latin night with her friends, which is this guy, DJ, until what?
00:54:353, 4 a.m. does make me feel very weird, more when they have a past.
00:54:43I hooked up with this human literally in 2011, one summer, one time.
00:54:49We've been very good friends ever since.
00:54:51He's now started the Latin event in Charlottesville and hosts every Bachata night.
00:54:55Of course, I'm going to him saying, hey, can I perform at your events?
00:54:58Hey, can you help me promote my music?
00:55:00Like, true friends.
00:55:02We're friends.
00:55:03And because after Latin night, we go back to the after party that's at his house, it's
00:55:08a problem.
00:55:09It's the same guy that when we got married, he was writing her and trying to take her
00:55:15out.
00:55:16There's no proof to what he's accusing me of.
00:55:20And that is hurtful to me.
00:55:23Okay, Cara, tell us about this DJ friend of yours.
00:55:29Javier and I became friends early, early, like 2008, 2009, dancing Bachata.
00:55:35It was an underground scene at that point.
00:55:36Had sex one time.
00:55:38One time.
00:55:39I immediately was like, we're friends.
00:55:41I have no interest in you.
00:55:42Sorry it went too far.
00:55:43I'd really like to keep it friends because we've been friends already for so long.
00:55:46I was gone for a decade.
00:55:48He got married, had kids.
00:55:49We always kept in touch.
00:55:50Why would I not call upon my friend to help promote my music?
00:55:54Is this guy still married with kids?
00:55:56Yeah.
00:55:57Uh, no.
00:55:58Yes.
00:55:59They are still legally married.
00:56:00They got separate.
00:56:01It's fine to work with him, but like, is it necessary to go to the after party at
00:56:064 o'clock in the morning?
00:56:07I mean, yeah, that's debatable.
00:56:09I would be uncomfortable too.
00:56:11But there was a time when we just got married that he was writing her.
00:56:18And the way he was writing, it was to invite her out.
00:56:23Kara, I get the impression that there's something you are holding back.
00:56:28What's going on?
00:56:32I'll be very honest.
00:56:33In my heart of hearts, if I went to him tomorrow and was like, hey, let's hook up,
00:56:38I have no doubts he would.
00:56:41Oh, my God.
00:56:42I have no doubt about it.
00:56:47When we come back, we're going to talk to Brandon and Julia.
00:56:53So I'm not sure what they're going to do.
00:56:55Okay.
00:56:56Okay.
00:56:57It's tough in your skater, don't you understand?
00:57:04Is everybody ready?
00:57:08I'll be very honest.
00:57:09If I went to him tomorrow and was like, hey, let's hook up, I have no doubts he would.
00:57:21Then I'm on your side, Guillermo.
00:57:26I'm not going to Javier.
00:57:29I don't want to touch him with a 20-foot pole.
00:57:31So, like, I know where I stand with him and it takes two to tango.
00:57:35Like, I don't give a what advances he's trying to make of me.
00:57:37But then I will come with my insecurities and I will be like, hey, Joe, that makes me feel uncomfortable.
00:57:43Can you please talk?
00:57:44And you're wrong.
00:57:45Now you're wrong, right?
00:57:46You're wrong, yeah.
00:57:47I'm being too nice.
00:57:48As a Latino, too nice.
00:57:50No, but for a long time, I did have a conversation with Javier and I said, look, I'm married now.
00:57:55You can't just come up and be like, oh, mommy, you know, my husband's uncomfortable.
00:58:00It's inappropriate.
00:58:01I had several conversations with Javier about this.
00:58:04Okay.
00:58:05So, Kara, do you think the combination of, you know, the late nights after the performance, the drinking, the fact that it may be at this guy's club and he's separated from his wife and he still likes you and would hook up with you, that's kind of a perfect storm for something to happen, don't you think?
00:58:24Like, all the signs are there.
00:58:27I get it.
00:58:28I understand why he's upset.
00:58:29But at the end of the day, I have not done anything wrong and I have not betrayed his trust in that way.
00:58:35I know who I am and I know what my intentions are.
00:58:38If I wanted to Javier, I would have done it a million times 10 years ago.
00:58:42Like, it was never something I've wanted and I still don't want it.
00:58:47In this scenario, it's not specifically about him.
00:58:55He's not the problem.
00:58:57My problem is with her.
00:58:59My problem is with my sitting in a table talking about the things that makes me feel uncomfortable and then she will be doing something else.
00:59:07Those are my problems.
00:59:09I've always wanted to sing, I've always been a partier, I've always been coqueta, I've always been outgoing, I've always been maybe a harsh-toned speaker, whatever you want to call it.
00:59:19Guillermo's shaking his head.
00:59:23I wanted, I wanted you to say it.
00:59:25And, and him, and I feel like he was fine with that.
00:59:28He was fine with all of that until we came to America and I was with my friends and my people and then all of a sudden it became a problem.
00:59:42But Cara, have you ever cheated on Guillermo?
00:59:45Never, never.
00:59:46I've cheated on people in my life, never with Guillermo.
00:59:49Guillermo, do you believe her?
00:59:54Sure.
00:59:55Sure.
01:00:00Listen, I feel like inside of me I do have problems, but my way to come out of those problems, it's being, just let it go.
01:00:10You were the love of my life, like I fell in love with you.
01:00:16But I, there was a point that I felt like the person that I fell in love with, it wasn't there anymore.
01:00:23And I need to accept that.
01:00:31Cara, that really hit you hard.
01:00:33Yeah.
01:00:34Yeah.
01:00:41I mean she love you.
01:00:45I just, I just saw it going so differently than what actually happened.
01:00:49I was really committed and down.
01:00:52I was like ride or die for him, you know?
01:00:55Okay.
01:00:58Um, I want to shift right now to an incident when Cara's mom came to the house last fall.
01:01:10Take a look.
01:01:12Have you somebody else since we were married?
01:01:14No.
01:01:16A few days ago, my mom said she thinks that Guillermo cheated on me.
01:01:23Your stepdad and I were watching Nico and you know, we went to your house to wait for him to get off work by like five o'clock.
01:01:32So we're sitting there, you know, we go in and get comfortable and like quarter after six rolls around.
01:01:37So Guillermo shows up and when he shows up, he was like disshuffled, hair crazy.
01:01:43He darted for the bathroom.
01:01:45He definitely looked guilty and his actions show me something right.
01:01:55So, uh, who, who thinks there may have been some behavior there that was inappropriate?
01:02:00He came back shuffled?
01:02:06Doesn't point to anything that he did wrong in my opinion.
01:02:09Well, Ronald might put some gas in the fire, you don't know.
01:02:12Yeah, she stirred the puds.
01:02:13Yeah.
01:02:15There's a river that I go a lot and when I normally paddle that river, I come smelling.
01:02:22No, I can tell you what my mom said happened.
01:02:23Right, but you were supposed to be like what?
01:02:24He came home from work, not the river.
01:02:25Yeah, exactly.
01:02:27I went to Mexico.
01:02:28When is the day?
01:02:29Like, that's the thing.
01:02:30They can look it up.
01:02:31But like, I went to Mexico to visit my pregnant friend.
01:02:32She came back to Mexico to give birth.
01:02:34My mom watched Nico while he was at work.
01:02:36He was supposed to be back at five.
01:02:37He came home closer to like six, 6.30, whatever.
01:02:39He was late.
01:02:40Then he comes in late, disheveled.
01:02:41Runs straight to the bathroom.
01:02:42Takes a shower immediately.
01:02:45Comes back down.
01:02:46My mom was like, he's late.
01:02:47He's disheveled.
01:02:48Supposed to be at work.
01:02:49Runs to the bathroom.
01:02:50Like suspicious.
01:02:51And Guillermo, you don't remember this at all?
01:02:54I'm trying to find the day that I came back, like trying to get in the shower.
01:02:59I will definitely, normally, every single time after I come from the river, to clean myself
01:03:03because smell like...
01:03:04What the the river?
01:03:05What are you saying the river?
01:03:06It smells like .
01:03:07No, but you went at the river and you didn't work.
01:03:09You don't work at the river.
01:03:11And he came back in his work clothes disheveled, not his river wetsuit disheveled.
01:03:16I've never cheated.
01:03:19It's not about the cheating.
01:03:20There's so many other problems here.
01:03:21I don't know.
01:03:22It sounds to me like you're the problem.
01:03:23I don't see anything really saying that Guillermo's doing.
01:03:25Stop it.
01:03:26She's such a fire.
01:03:27He's such a ground.
01:03:29They cannot go together, seriously.
01:03:30I don't think he's wrong.
01:03:33Is the next step divorce?
01:03:35Everybody has their turn in the hot seat to give us the update on their lives.
01:03:48So, Brandon and Julia.
01:03:50Sure.
01:03:51We've been on our fertility journey.
01:03:54It's been, like, a lot.
01:03:56Uh-huh.
01:04:09Is the next step divorce?
01:04:19I don't.
01:04:20We're just separate right now.
01:04:21I would rather just keep it as it is.
01:04:26I know he can be here.
01:04:27He can see our son every day.
01:04:30Is there a part of you that wants the marriage to work?
01:04:33Yeah, of course.
01:04:34I did not want my marriage to fail.
01:04:35I didn't get married to get divorced.
01:04:36It was never my intention.
01:04:37It was never my goal.
01:04:38Now that I'm on this side of it, I don't know that that's the best solution for us.
01:04:45Guillermo, you said during couples therapy that you weren't sure if you loved Kara.
01:04:53Do you love Kara?
01:04:59Yeah.
01:05:00I mean, she's the mother of my kid.
01:05:01So you just love her as the mother of your kid, or you love her as a woman?
01:05:06He doesn't love all of me.
01:05:07You know, at least I will speak for my country or, like, for where I come from.
01:05:12But we consider that the mother of your kid, that's your woman.
01:05:17And in Spanish we say, like, esa es mi mujer.
01:05:20And I guess I don't see it like that right now because, so I, I, look, I don't know.
01:05:27I don't know.
01:05:28I don't know.
01:05:29I'm lost.
01:05:30And yeah, me too.
01:05:33Sometimes I don't understand 100% what's going on inside of me because I guess I still going through just pain.
01:05:42Okay, let me ask our other couples.
01:05:45Who here thinks that there is a future for Kara and Guillermo?
01:05:50I do.
01:05:51Yeah, I think so too.
01:05:52They're nice together.
01:05:53I saw, I saw the energy between them.
01:05:56And that energy is real.
01:05:57You can't lie about this energy and them have a feeling for each other.
01:06:02You can't throw away this.
01:06:04I think that he needs more digging into his feelings and open up a little bit more.
01:06:10And I know that in our culture, it's, it's very difficult for men.
01:06:14I mean, they, they look nice together.
01:06:16Look at them.
01:06:17Yeah.
01:06:18Well, um, thank you so much, Kara and Guillermo.
01:06:25Um, I'm really sorry that you are having so many problems in your relationship now.
01:06:30But we do hope that there is a path forward for you both.
01:06:34Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.
01:06:38Okay, everybody can take a five minute break.
01:06:41And when we return, Brandon and Julia, we're talking to you.
01:06:46Yeah.
01:06:47Yeah.
01:06:48Great.
01:06:49We have a couple of minutes.
01:06:50Yeah.
01:06:51Let's try it.
01:06:52Blind.
01:06:53Yeah.
01:06:54Can I help you?
01:06:55Hey, don't do that.
01:06:56Hey, don't do that.
01:06:57No.
01:06:58And I?
01:06:59No.
01:07:00No.
01:07:01No.
01:07:02No.
01:07:03No.
01:07:04No.
01:07:05No.
01:07:06No.
01:07:07No.
01:07:08No.
01:07:09No.
01:07:10Okay.
01:07:11I'm not sure where that goes.
01:07:12Okay.
01:07:13Okay.
01:07:14Okay.
01:07:15Okay.
01:07:16Stop in your skateboard.
01:07:17I understand.
01:07:18But don't be fine.
01:07:19You'll do a great job.
01:07:20Okay.
01:07:21Okay.
01:07:22Okay.
01:07:23All right.
01:07:24Okay, everybody, please sit down.
01:07:26We're gonna get started here.
01:07:28Five, four, three, two.
01:07:32And now, let's turn our attention to Brandon and Julia.
01:07:36There is a lot we need to unpack.
01:07:38So, are you ready to get started, guys?
01:07:41Yeah.
01:07:42No.
01:07:43Yeah.
01:07:44Okay.
01:07:45Everybody has their turn in the hot seat to give us the update on their lives.
01:07:48So, how are you two doing?
01:07:57Uh-huh.
01:08:02Can you start?
01:08:03Sure.
01:08:04We've, um, so yeah.
01:08:05We've been on our fertility journey.
01:08:07I'm starting to cry because all my fertility journey has been our...
01:08:12It's been tough.
01:08:13It's been hard.
01:08:14It's been tough.
01:08:15Aw.
01:08:16It's been, like, a lot.
01:08:18And now what we are dealing is even more...
01:08:22I...
01:08:23I'm not gonna talk.
01:08:24I'm not gonna talk.
01:08:25Hi, Mom.
01:08:26Hi, Dad.
01:08:27So, when is the last time you guys saw each other?
01:08:40It's been a while.
01:08:41For some reason, we're feeling this distance.
01:08:44We are lying.
01:08:47We have reason why we disconnect.
01:08:50It's...
01:08:51It's hard to explain.
01:08:52Try.
01:08:53Try.
01:09:04We are being...
01:09:09It's been tough.
01:09:10It's been hard emotionally.
01:09:11It's been tough.
01:09:12I will be saying we have miscarriages.
01:09:16Hi, Julia.
01:09:17That is why we're waiting so long.
01:09:20Aw.
01:09:21But...
01:09:23I am six months pregnant right now.
01:09:26Ah!
01:09:27Oh, what?
01:09:28Oh, my God.
01:09:29Oh, my God.
01:09:30Wow.
01:09:31But...
01:09:32I have a very high-risk pregnancy, and...
01:09:36I never have panic attack.
01:09:38I never have paranoia, what I have right now.
01:09:40And every day, I wake up and I'm trying to, like, feel kicking.
01:09:44If I feel kicking.
01:09:45If I feel kicking, I feel this alive.
01:09:47Brandon's so excited to share this with people.
01:09:51He want to say this.
01:09:53I'm like, I'm not.
01:09:54Because if you're gonna share, if you're gonna be again lost.
01:09:59No.
01:10:00It's scary.
01:10:01It's been challenging to get here, you know?
01:10:03It's...
01:10:04It's...
01:10:05We've achieved something.
01:10:06It's scary to possibly lose something.
01:10:08But I've been dying to actually tell somebody to get it out, you know?
01:10:14Congratulations, you and Brandon.
01:10:16Congratulations, Julia.
01:10:17Yeah.
01:10:18Congratulations.
01:10:19Congratulations.
01:10:20I think Julia needs a hug.
01:10:21Julia!
01:10:23She made me cry.
01:10:25Oh, my God, there's Julia.
01:10:28Oh, my God, there's Julia.
01:10:30Oh.
01:10:31Wow.
01:10:32And God, we are Julia!
01:10:34Congratulations!
01:10:35Hey, Julia.
01:10:36It's gonna be great.
01:10:37It's gonna be great.
01:10:38No worries.
01:10:39Thanks.
01:10:40Thanks, bud.
01:10:47Thank you, all of you.
01:10:48We love you.
01:10:49We appreciate you sharing the news.
01:10:51Don't look like I'm sick of mine.
01:10:53No.
01:10:54Wait, did you get a boob job or is this pre...
01:10:56No, it's my...
01:10:57This is just her pregnancy?
01:10:58Just her pregnancy.
01:10:59Oh, my God.
01:11:00That's real.
01:11:01Oh, oh, oh.
01:11:02My God.
01:11:03That is real.
01:11:04This grew, too.
01:11:05Not like that.
01:11:06Not like that, but...
01:11:07They grew for a minute.
01:11:09So, Julia, we know that you have wavered a bit
01:11:13between having kids and not having kids.
01:11:17How are you feeling about your pregnancy tonight?
01:11:20That's a very good question because I'm questioning myself.
01:11:24What if I'm not gonna accept it?
01:11:27What if I'm not gonna like it?
01:11:28What if this kid's gonna not like it?
01:11:30What if I have too much what if...
01:11:32Have you thought about what if everything works out perfectly?
01:11:35Yeah.
01:11:36Oof.
01:11:37Get it, Sean.
01:11:38No.
01:11:39That's never a factor.
01:11:40No.
01:11:41Think about that.
01:11:42Yes.
01:11:43That's never part of the what is.
01:11:44No.
01:11:45Oh.
01:11:46You're stressing out too much, but I think you're gonna be a good mother.
01:11:48You are a good person, and you're gonna be a good mom.
01:11:51Take a deep breath.
01:11:53Just relax.
01:11:54Enjoy it.
01:11:55In my opinion, what you're feeling and what you're going through is so valid.
01:12:01Yeah.
01:12:02Let me tell you, I don't know, it touches me really .
01:12:06Oh.
01:12:07I thought you can't cry, my friend.
01:12:12We can cry about Nico all day.
01:12:14Aw.
01:12:15I haven't been able to cry in a long time.
01:12:19It feels great.
01:12:23And you have not told your parents.
01:12:25Not told my parents.
01:12:26You have not told Brandon's parents.
01:12:27No, no.
01:12:28We have arguments with his mom.
01:12:30And now I doesn't know what I feel.
01:12:33Me and Betty's relationship has become a lot.
01:12:37And we doesn't spoke with her.
01:12:39Even we doesn't see his mom on her birthday.
01:12:42I think she will forget about all of that.
01:12:45Oh, hell yeah.
01:12:46When she knows?
01:12:47Mina just said it, that's gone.
01:12:48Like, I want to tell them to the first people I think we should have told.
01:12:52But I want to do what I can to support her and not cause her any additional stress.
01:12:59Have you thought about any boundaries that you want to set with him?
01:13:05Let me tell you something.
01:13:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:13:07Last time in the house we have a sex and parents just come to the front door.
01:13:16Brandon have to rush to the door and smack the door.
01:13:20Oh, my God.
01:13:21Oh, my God.
01:13:22Your mom does the two.
01:13:25So that is boundary what we are going to.
01:13:29Brandon?
01:13:30I really don't know what to expect.
01:13:32One second.
01:13:33Can I ask everybody who thinking Betty will be trying to move on to our house when she
01:13:37knows this?
01:13:44You are going back from the tunnel and she's already going to be there.
01:13:48I think you will want that because you will want some sleep.
01:13:51Take the help.
01:13:53Trust me.
01:13:55Julia, you know that Brandon's parents will be joining us in a few minutes.
01:14:00You need the support, honestly, to calm you down.
01:14:14So that's why I think you should tell them.
01:14:17It could be amazing for you to just have that support around you.
01:14:20I'm also in Virginia, by the way.
01:14:21I will happily do whatever you need.
01:14:23I can be to your house in like two and a half hours.
01:14:25You have to rely on sisterhood in here, Julia.
01:14:27You're not alone.
01:14:28You're not alone.
01:14:29It's going to be stressful.
01:14:30We're not going to lie.
01:14:31You know, when a baby is born, it's going to be some nice.
01:14:34But you have a lot of help around you.
01:14:36I'm not saying, am I going to tell his parents?
01:14:38No, I still doesn't tell my parents either.
01:14:41How often do you talk to your parents?
01:14:42How do you talk to them?
01:14:43My parents?
01:14:44Yeah, to your mother.
01:14:45All the time.
01:14:46Every day?
01:14:47Yes.
01:14:48Call them now.
01:14:49Let's call them.
01:14:54I mean, I would say we go for it.
01:14:56No?
01:14:57Mm-hmm.
01:14:59You want to call your parents?
01:15:02Do you want to tell them?
01:15:04Tell them.
01:15:19You want to call your parents, Julia?
01:15:21I mean, I would say we go for it.
01:15:22No?
01:15:23Mm-hmm.
01:15:24Can I have my phone?
01:15:25Oh, my God.
01:15:26You're getting everybody excited, Julia.
01:15:27Yeah.
01:15:28It's like Christmas.
01:15:29Oh, my God.
01:15:30I'm going to cry.
01:15:31Are we really going to do it?
01:15:32Are we really going to do it?
01:15:33It's 11.30 there.
01:15:34Are they asleep?
01:15:35Wake them up.
01:15:36Wake them up.
01:15:37Wake them up.
01:15:38Don't do it at the same time.
01:15:39I can't breathe now.
01:15:40Good.
01:15:41Good.
01:15:42Yeah.
01:15:43Good.
01:15:44Yeah.
01:15:45Good.
01:15:46Good.
01:15:47Yeah.
01:15:48Good.
01:15:49Good.
01:15:50Yeah.
01:15:51Good.
01:15:52Good.
01:15:53Yeah.
01:15:54Good.
01:15:55Good.
01:15:56Good.
01:15:57Good.
01:15:58Good.
01:15:59Good.
01:16:00Yeah.
01:16:01Good.
01:16:02Good.
01:16:03Yeah.
01:16:04She's going to have a weight lifted off of her shoulder.
01:16:05She already has it, because we know already.
01:16:06This is exciting.
01:16:10Can your dad be up?
01:16:11I don't know.
01:16:12I'm getting excited.
01:16:13I'm kind of shaking here.
01:16:14We need more tissues.
01:16:15I mean, they probably are sleeping, and then probably doesn't really understand what
01:16:20freaking is going on.
01:16:22OK.
01:16:23Here we go, Julia.
01:16:24OK.
01:16:25All right.
01:16:26Let's go.
01:16:27Be quiet, you guys.
01:16:28I don't know how to say congratulations in Rocha.
01:16:30Pazdravlējī.
01:16:31Pazdravlējī.
01:16:32Pazdravlēj.
01:16:33Pazdravlēj.
01:16:34You probably see, like, what the hell mommy did.
01:16:37We got one.
01:16:39PRIVET.
01:16:40Oh, we got two.
01:16:41Uh-oh.
01:16:42Oh.
01:16:43Hi.
01:16:45Pazdravlējī.
01:16:46Hi.
01:16:47Hi.
01:16:48Very cute.
01:16:49Hi.
01:16:50How are you?
01:16:53Can you hold the phone?
01:16:54Yeah, yeah.
01:16:55And one, two, three, can you just say?
01:16:57All right.
01:16:58Let's go.
01:16:59OK.
01:17:00One, two, three.
01:17:01Pazdravlaayam!
01:17:03Woo!
01:17:04One second!
01:17:05What's that?
01:17:07You will be a grandmother and a dad!
01:17:10Are you serious?
01:17:13You are serious?
01:17:15Yeah!
01:17:19I don't believe.
01:17:21They don't believe me.
01:17:23One second.
01:17:24Let me...
01:17:25Oh, wow.
01:17:26Let me just, like, show like this.
01:17:28Like this.
01:17:30Beautiful.
01:17:31My father's future.
01:17:34No, no.
01:17:35It's she just ate well and everything.
01:17:39They say just eat a lot.
01:17:42Aww.
01:17:44I've been waiting for this so long,
01:17:46that I don't even believe.
01:17:48I'm very happy.
01:17:50Oh!
01:17:51Oh!
01:17:52Oh!
01:17:53Oh!
01:17:54Oh!
01:17:55Oh!
01:17:56Oh!
01:17:57Oh!
01:17:58Oh!
01:17:59Oh!
01:18:00Oh!
01:18:01Oh!
01:18:02Oh!
01:18:03Oh!
01:18:04Oh!
01:18:05Oh!
01:18:06Oh!
01:18:07Oh!
01:18:08Oh!
01:18:09Oh!
01:18:10Oh!
01:18:11Oh!
01:18:12Oh!
01:18:13Oh!
01:18:14Oh!
01:18:15Oh!
01:18:16Oh!
01:18:17Oh!
01:18:18Oh, well, I won't sleep for now!
01:18:19What are you doing there?
01:18:20Really?
01:18:21If you have a photo, I'll send you a photo.
01:18:24This is beautiful! We're so happy for you!
01:18:28Where's the second pair of parents?
01:18:33Mom, dad, mom, mom, Bette and Ron don't know.
01:18:39Yes, what?
01:18:41Well, of course, I won't say anything to anyone.
01:18:44All right, I'll kiss you.
01:18:46Bye-bye, say happy night.
01:18:47I love you.
01:18:48Bye-bye.
01:18:49Bye-bye, say happy night.
01:18:52Bye-bye, say happy night.
01:18:53OK.
01:18:56OK.
01:18:58That was fun for all of us to be a part of.
01:19:01So two down and just two to go.
01:19:04Yeah.
01:19:05Are you ready for us to bring Ron and Bette into the conversation?
01:19:11Let's show. I will see. I will see.
01:19:13Let's follow the emotional.
01:19:15I follow emotional with my parents.
01:19:16Let's follow emotional how I feel, how it's...
01:19:18Yeah, let your heart be your guide.
01:19:19You're doing great.
01:19:20You're doing great.
01:19:21Oh, yeah.
01:19:22All right.
01:19:24Here we go.
01:19:26Let's bring on Ron and Bette.
01:19:31Ron and Bette, this is Sean.
01:19:33How are you guys?
01:19:34Hi, Sean.
01:19:35Hi, Brennan, Julia.
01:19:36Hi, rest of the gang.
01:19:37Hi, mom.
01:19:38Hi, dad.
01:19:40So when is the last time you guys saw each other?
01:19:44It's been a while.
01:19:45It's been a while.
01:19:48I didn't get to see her for my birthday.
01:19:49I didn't get to see her for Father's Day.
01:19:52I do feel like there's been a distance between us as of late.
01:19:56You know, and I really...
01:19:57It's something I would like to fix.
01:20:01Well, knowing the relationship that Ron and I have had with Brandon growing up and over the years,
01:20:06we actually thought we had that with Julia.
01:20:09We love her and she's family, but for some reason we're feeling this distance and I don't want to make things worse.
01:20:20I feel we have, we start having like a lot of disconnection with each other, but I want to fix this.
01:20:28I want to fix our situation.
01:20:30I want to, our connecting back.
01:20:32Did I want biologists?
01:20:34Yes.
01:20:35Did I want to back to connecting with parents?
01:20:37Yes.
01:20:38That's all we've ever wanted.
01:20:41And heaven forbid, there's grandkids one day that come into a situation.
01:20:46It's like, they're our grandkids.
01:20:49It's like, it's part of our blood.
01:20:51It's like, it's us.
01:20:53It's, we want to be part of that.
01:20:55And to push us away or to alienate us, that would just totally break our hearts.
01:21:02And even, even in the fact that there aren't any grandkids.
01:21:06Brandon is my son.
01:21:07Julia, as far as I'm concerned, my daughter.
01:21:10But you have to make this first gesture to reach out because we've tried and we feel like every time we've tried, you've shut a door on us.
01:21:20I just want to say it's, um, we have, we have reason why we disconnect.
01:21:30It's what, what we are being through.
01:21:33It's hard to explain, but I always, most close in person.
01:21:38Like, I must have hide everything inside me.
01:21:41Brian Morris, like, he can share something, but I feel like I can't.
01:21:48Try.
01:21:49Try.
01:21:52You got to share it with us, Julia.
01:21:58We are lying.
01:22:01We doesn't tell.
01:22:03What?
01:22:04Next time on 90 Day Fiancé, happily ever after, tell all no limits.
01:22:21I can't wait for Georgie and Darcy.
01:22:23I think he's outside in the streets of Miami acting up.
01:22:26He's in the streets.
01:22:27I think he's hitting the streets and not telling Darcy is what I think.
01:22:32Does anybody think that Georgie might have one foot out the door?
01:22:36It crossed my mind.
01:22:38Really?
01:22:39He does certain dirt when he goes out.
01:22:40I've seen it.
01:22:41He does it point blank.
01:22:42It's not like he's hiding it.
01:22:43So I have suspicions.
01:22:44I talk with beautiful woman.
01:22:45Oh, she's jealous, obviously.
01:22:46I'm not jealous.
01:22:47I'm like, I'm flirting.
01:22:48No, it's just networking.
01:22:49I just talk with people.
01:22:51Oh, my God.
01:22:52With your arm around another chick?
01:22:53With her mouth in her ear?
01:22:55Hello?
01:22:56What are you doing?
01:22:57You're married.
01:22:59His mom told me, if you cannot be his wife, like, I have this good Romanian woman.
01:23:04Like, I want Matt to be with.
01:23:06And she's still available for Matt.
01:23:09Some girl waiting for Matt?
01:23:11That is up.
01:23:12I didn't know that.
01:23:13But Jasmine says she don't want to marry you.
01:23:15So what if another opportunity comes up?
01:23:17You taking that opportunity or?
01:23:19Maybe.
01:23:20We'll see.
01:23:21Can I say it like this?
01:23:22No, but if we don't live together.
01:23:24How much time would he want to wait for her?
01:23:34Hello.
01:23:36Why don't keep her nothing at all?
01:23:37I don't know, we don't recognise right now.
01:23:38I'm good enough to leave out of theSun.
01:23:40Yo, what else did he want to give away?
01:23:42Absolutely.
01:23:43I'm sure that he was Sam's wandopped for her.
01:23:46I did see you in bumps yet.
01:23:48So that's the way I need to see you.
01:23:51What kind of idea can he be and look forward to you?
01:23:53The argument that he was sort of generic,
01:23:55doesn't look around.
01:23:57He's not really trough voice.
01:23:58Like you were surprised?
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